Shit Just Got Real HD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUH3JQjcweM#ws)
Konami has a big E3 surprise no secret to keep.
Konami is currently working on a 3DS-exclusive Castlevania game called Castlevania: Mirror of Faith. This is evident from the appointment schedule that Konami made for this year's E3. After the highly successful Nintendo DS parts Castlevania: Dawn of Sorrow, Castlevania: Portrait of Ruin and Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia Nintendo 3DS owners can therefore look forward to a brand new handheld adventure in the Castlevania series.
There is content and gameplay is nothing known of the game. The only thing currently known is that David Cox, producer of Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, and Enric Alvarez, Director / Writer of Castlevania: Lords of Shadow, the game works.
Konami, the game at E3 this year, taking place from 5 to 7 June, officially reveal.
So much pessimism in this thread. :rollseyes:
No one is excited to see a new handheld Castlevania title? We don't even know anything about it yet. Sure, it could end up being terrible and disappointing, but it could also be a blast. We just have to wait and find out. We don't even know what the game's style will be yet, 2d or 3d, game mechanics, story, etc. I'm staying neutral until I see something.
We don't even know anything about it yet. Sure, it could end up being terrible and disappointing, but it could also be a blast. We just have to wait and find out. We don't even know what the game's style will be yet, 2d or 3dIt's Cox and Lords' director; I assure you, it's not 2D. If this is true anyway, but it was all but expected.
The game will be a Metroidvania, 2.5D. 3D graphics but side scrolling, so think Dracula X Chronicles on PSP. Lords of Shadow canon/art direction, the combat will be similar to LoS.
There will be no leveling up, and the design of the game meshes stages with Metroidvania maps, so I guess something similar to Order of Ecclesia?
First he told me he believes the protag is Alucard, but now he thinks it could be Trevor Belmont when he had no textures put on him at the time. Whoever it is, the protag uses a whip. There will be a Belmont clan, he assures me Alucard is present, and Trevor is the father of Simon Belmont.
Were supposed to get a CG trailer of Dracula, and two announcements for two new games. 3DSVania which will be a prequel to LoS2 but a sequel to LoS1, and the console sequel.
I'd say it's a high chance that this will be 2D. ;D
Unlikely. LoS is separating from the Castlevania norm, and has already established it's first iteration in 3D. It makes no sense for them to revert, if it was profitable. Especially on a 3D system. Likewise, would Konami's executives really allow them to revert to a 2D one after the sales they experienced? I think not. Look at Konami's INSANE business practices lately. They simply do not give a shit either way.A 3D system has nothing to do with the style of the game being a sidescroller or not. Neither having pixel art or not.
Once again i don't know why Cox gets a bad rep...
Do you guys really think the game will be 3D? With Nintendo 3DS horsepower? Unless they want a game to look worse than it would on a console, they'll go the 2D route (or 2.5D route).It's going to be 2.5D. 3D graphics in a side scroller, like DXC.
Well, to start he's a proven liar.I can't deny this. David promised a lot for LoS that barely any of it was true.
@Inccubus: Your hopes are going to be smashed within a month.
Lords was well received and was a much more believable origins story than Lament ever was...
A 3D system has nothing to do with the style of the game being a sidescroller or not. Neither having pixel art or not.
Seriously, I don't get where do you guys get that...
The information from the source that OSM was talking about (rumor):Just want to remind everyone to still take everything with a grain of salt. I'm very inclined to believe everything the guy told me now though, but you never know.
Do realize Nintendo, along with all console manufacturers, imposes certain standards and restrictions on developers for retail 'box' games. Wii/3DSware is pretty much "anything goes" because they're begging for interest in that sector.
That and; A) Konami execs are tards; B) "Forget what you know about Castlevania"; C) LoS was highly profitable, and in 3D
Do realize Nintendo, along with all console manufacturers, imposes certain standards and restrictions on developers for retail 'box' games. Wii/3DSware is pretty much "anything goes" because they're begging for interest in that sector.False. They don't restricts games from being 2D or 3D. There's a lot of 2D games on 3DS already, retail even.
That and; A) Konami execs are tards; B) "Forget what you know about Castlevania"; C) LoS was highly profitable, and in 3D
Do you guys really think the game will be 3D? With Nintendo 3DS horsepower? Unless they want a game to look worse than it would on a console, they'll go the 2D route (or 2.5D route).
Grain of salt and all that jazz but a Neogaf member "Santiako" say's he knew about the game for a while and say's Mirror of Faith will feature 2D gameplay like the DS games.And someone posted this in the thread too.
He doesn't go into plot details though.
And someone posted this in the thread too.Can you link us to that thread please?
Not sure when this was taken.
Can you link us to that thread please?
Of course it's going to look worse than it would on a console; it's a handheld game. That didn't stop God of War: Chains of Olympus, MGS Peace Walker, Resident Evil Revelations, or Final Fantasy Type-0 from being made. Cast off Stage 1: Denial. Move on to Stage 2: Anger.Of course not. I've played all these games btw, and they are really good.
Can you link us to that thread please?http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=474923 (http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=474923)
Can you link us to that thread please?http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=474923 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=474923)
Trevor Belmont as prtagonist? I'm sold.It's either Trevor or Alucard. I think Alucard sounds more likely, but Trevor would be awesome. It sounds like this game could be a big throwback to Dracula's Curse and Symphony of the Night.
Holy shit so much senseless butthurt over a game that WE KNOW NOTHING ABOUT YET.
Can we PLEASE hold off on the Cox/MS/whoever bashing AT LEAST until we know a bit more about the game?
Please?
Yes I know it's hard to contain the fan rage within, but seriously. Even LoS Topics have less bashing, and at least there one can list legit reasons based on a game we have already played.
Jesus...
I hope we still get a console sequel though. I'd hate to see the franchise relegated to handhelds again.
(plus, y'know, I HAVE a 360... >_>)
Just want to remind everyone to still take everything with a grain of salt. I'm very inclined to believe everything the guy told me now though, but you never know.
Hoping the game runs at a smooth framerate and doesn't share any of the issues MGS3D had. Konami needs a good 3DS game in their library.
Trevor Belmont as prtagonist? I'm sold.
Incredible, MS did what IGA couldn't and we were clamoring for years, the CVIII remake/reimagining.
EDIT: And if I recall right, didn't you say your source came from 4chan?
EDIT: And if I recall right, didn't you say your source came from 4chan? o:He's an anonymous, and yes. I didn't believe him for awhile either.
The IGA bashing needs to stop, too. That's been going on for even longer.IGA bashing usually comes up when people start LoS bashing.
Personally I prefer pixel/sprite games for 3DS and 2.5D for Vita. But whatever.
Trevor would probably end up using Alucard as his name in this game. Like what Adrian did.That'd be interesting! :)
The IGA bashing needs to stop, too. That's been going on for even longer.
IGA bashing usually comes up when people start LoS bashing.
The IGA bashing needs to stop, too. That's been going on for even longer.Pixel Art for Vita and 2.5D for 3DS would be a lot better. The Vita does pixel art A LOT better than the 3DS, no question.
Personally I prefer pixel/sprite games for 3DS and 2.5D for Vita. But whatever.
Hear, hear. I'm all for a truce.
There have also been cases where it was the other way around. Both sides have done wrong in that regard.
He's an anonymous, and yes. I didn't believe him for awhile either.
That'd be interesting! :)
But IIRC, Gabriel's real name isn't Gabriel Belmont. He was named by the Brotherhood. I'm pretty sure his real name was Mathias Cronqvist. So, Trevor/Alucard wouldn't be his son, but another guy called Belmont.
OMG mind blown by all the theories! XD
There have also been cases where it was the other way around. Both sides have done wrong in that regard.granted, granted.
Maybe the battle will never end, but I have a Dream that iga lovers and cox lovers will get along in harmony...
We'd see a Zelda on the Wii U? ;)Dohohoho
I won't understand the hate from this...
Does everyone actually appreciate the laziness of Iga's team? They recycle more than they created, half the areas in their most recent games are copy and paste box rooms over and over again. Lords of shadow wasn't perfect but it sure was far more creative and inspired as far as level design goes.
...Trevor as Simon's son works...
First he told me he believes the protag is Alucard, but now he thinks it could be Trevor Belmont when he had no textures put on him at the time. Whoever it is, the protag uses a whip. There will be a Belmont clan, he assures me Alucard is present, and Trevor is the father of Simon Belmont.
Like I said it'd make sense if Trevol Belmont is Gabriel Belmonts son. He changed his name to Belmont, and it would link the Belmonts to Dracula while connecting Alucard to Dracul.....
It's a clever idea if they are truly doing this. It bridges son of dracula and the belmont clan together. Trevor Belmont would essentially be Alucard since he would possibly be the son of Gabriel ( dracul)...
Dohohoho
I'm no idiot, I'm still somewhat skeptical about this. I hope you guys don't hate me too much if everything turns out to be BS in the end. :(
First he told me he believes the protag is Alucard, but now he thinks it could be Trevor Belmont when he had no textures put on him at the time. Whoever it is, the protag uses a whip. There will be a Belmont clan, he assures me Alucard is present, and Trevor is the father of Simon Belmont.
I for one don't hate you or anything, all I'm trying to pick out is where is the trustworthy wallmeat to trust the claims this person your believing come from, and if there's any serious levels of trust to be had. Making easy blanket assumptions that seem to be predictable choices to make do not seem like trustworthy sources, which is why I asked what else this person claimed. If all of it are assumptions based on popular guesses and hopes that people on Neogaf, /v/, and GameFAQs make, then there's not any genuine credibility to be had there.
Maybe the battle will never end, but I have a Dream that iga lovers and cox lovers will get along in harmony...
No but seriously nothing moves forward right when folks argue about something I wonder if this falls under that obnoxiousness we were talking about a couple days ago.
I'm prettu sure people don't miss androgenous pretty boys and anime plots
And for your information, people, Dave Cox haven't only worked on LoS, he was in the CV team since Castlevania X68000 (or whatever) that is, BEFORE IGA, he was part of the SOTN team and the COTM team. He then was part of the localization team of all subsequent Cv titles until becoming main producer in Lords of Shadows.
Well the original source is down, im getting flashbacks of the Harmony of Despair leak.
I think it's the real deal.
Well the original source is down, im getting flashbacks of the Harmony of Despair leak.I never understand why companies think it's smart to shut down sources like that. It just makes it even more convincing whatever "leaked" was true. They would have been smarter to have just let it alone or "No comment at this time."
I think it's the real deal.
Well, if Cox says it false it's probably not just the title of the game being spelled wrong. So I'd say we should not yet consider this confirmed.
Well, if Cox says it false it's probably not just the title of the game being spelled wrong. So I'd say we should not yet consider this confirmed.Not at all in defense of that anonymous's rumors, but Cox isn't exactly known for telling the truth.
Not at all in defense of that anonymous's rumors, but Cox isn't exactly known for telling the truth.
Not at all in defense of that anonymous's rumors, but Cox isn't exactly known for telling the truth.
Well, if Cox says it false it's probably not just the title of the game being spelled wrong. So I'd say we should not yet consider this confirmed.
False. They don't restricts games from being 2D or 3D. There's a lot of 2D games on 3DS already, retail even.
Eh, Cox only lied in order to make his game sound better than it really was. He has no reason to lie now. Besides, I think it would have been smarter if he would have said "no comment" or just ignored it.
better than it was? It was a length adventure, it was pretty robust, had great graphics, nice voice acting, and was critically accepted compared to the other 3d castlevanias that came out.
I don't think he lied too much, I think it's just iGA fans being butthurt that we aren't getting over the top anime plots anymore lol
I don't think he lied too much, I think it's just iGA fans being butthurt that we aren't getting over the top anime plots anymore lolI didn't see much of Super Castlevania IV in Lords of Shadow besides the whip swinging and gloomy/dreary environments. He boasted that IV was his bible for LoS's development.
Sorry CastleDan, poor use of words. I think "more ideal than it really was" is better.
Then you should have no problem listing them. Keep in mind 3DSware title don't count, they are under different regulations from Nintendo entirely. First party titles from Nintendo also are immune to restrictions. Please do list the remaining. There are at times very specific allowances for 'games' that don't quite qualify in the traditional sense, but perhaps make use of the current console gimmick in a way traditional games cannot or do not typically.From the top of my head, I remember Crayon Shin-chan (Japan Only), Cave Story 3D(has a 2D pixel mode in, but whatever). Adventure Time 3DS will be pixel art by Wayforward too. I'm sure there's more, I can't remember everyone.
I don't think he lied too much, I think it's just iGA fans being butthurt that we aren't getting over the top anime plots anymore lol
I didn't see much of Super Castlevania IV in Lords of Shadow besides the whip swinging and gloomy/dreary environments. He boasted that IV was his bible for LoS's development.
Or, could it be general fans of the series since far, far before IGA that just can't stand someone not doing justice to the series as a whole, and not any particular era of the games. IGA did it too in areas.
And I'd like someone to describe to me, exactly, what an "Over-the-Top Anime Plotline" is. That seems to be a pretty damn big generalization.
Castlevania Dawn of Sorrow - Intro - Gameplay (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7lqtPjE0k4#) - the dialog reads like some kind of poorly written anime.That art style is ridiculously generic. Why didn't they use Kojima's art?
better than it was? It was a length adventure, it was pretty robust, had great graphics, nice voice acting, and was critically accepted compared to the other 3d castlevanias that came out.Seriously, STFU.
I don't think he lied too much, I think it's just iGA fans being butthurt that we aren't getting over the top anime plots anymore lol
the dialog reads like some kind of poorly written anime.
Again, it gets a bad rep for silly reasons imo.. It's the first Castlevania in 3d that actually has damn good level design. No copy and paste cop outs, and it went back to the more gritty mythical beefy nature of the originals and less of the romantic pretty boy vibe of the newer ones. IMO of course...
Foffy-Eh, it was far more interestin' than a crimson stone plotline.......imo.....
I donno, dude. I thought someone got one of their children to get the twist that Belmont = Dracula. It's so childish of a plot idea, and seems like something fitting for fan fiction. But perhaps it's because two of the writers do comic books, and maybe awful plots is a norm there.
I donno, dude. I thought someone got one of their children to get the twist that Belmont = Dracula. It's so childish of a plot idea, and seems like something fitting for fan fiction. But perhaps it's because two of the writers do comic books, and maybe awful plots is a norm there.Well, Gabriel wasn't really a "Belmont," he gave himself that name. We don't know what his real name is, but we know he's supposedly a bastard child from the Cronqvist family.
From the top of my head, I remember Crayon Shin-chan (Japan Only), Cave Story 3D(has a 2D pixel mode in, but whatever). Adventure Time 3DS will be pixel art by Wayforward too. I'm sure there's more, I can't remember everyone.
Yes, and Zobek's grandiose dialog and descriptions of Gabriel's "pain and torment and overwhelming rage" (that rarely got shown, FYI) weren't over-the-top at all.It really is two different sides of the same coin. One side's East, the other, West. The coin is called EXAGGERATION!
CastleDan, you're coming off as an obnoxious little kid "nyah nyah cox games are better than your dumb iga games nyah nyah"
Seriously. It's fucking annoying.
David @Wizpig @CastlevaniaLOS What can you say if I say "Mirror of Faith"?
@Wizpig - I would say wrong end of the stick....misinformed. I would also say the truth is ALWAYS better than fiction! :-)
Two more news.
First, Konami told the site with the original story to ERASE it. So it's accurrate. Good.
Second
Dave Cox wrote something
In another note, I'm not only excited for the possibility of this, but because, hey, we'll get TWO castlevania games with plot relevance announced at the time, and God knows I was hunry for more CV (In one way or another).
Also, we don't know if Mercury is DEVELOPING THE GAME, we know Cox is producing it and Alarez is writing it/directing it, but it could be outsourced to another developer, think.. Wayforward?
Yet people go crazy saying how they were misled! it's really NOT as different as everyone flips out at it.... Lets look at IGA's storylines with cars in the backgrounds...
I see 3D model effects in Crayon Shin-chan screen shots, despite being a severely cheap licensed title. Adventure Time was announced just recently with NO screen shots to be found, and is a DS multiplatform title as well. I hardly think that counts. Cave Story is a 3d remake with a retro mode tacked on. You are really grasping for straws here.So the 3D elements in the DS Castlevanias means the games were 3D? Sorry, I didn't know.
Yes, and Zobek's grandiose dialog and descriptions of Gabriel's "pain and torment and overwhelming rage" (that rarely got shown, FYI) weren't over-the-top at all.
My point is people are fine with IGA's bastardization of the series....
LOL, cars in the background aren't what I call a major problem with IGA's storylines. Considering the cars were present in the "future" CV games, they are actually pretty easy to swallow, maybe even "realistic" in a way. Of course there's going to be cars, it's 2035-2036. ;D
The point is: Nintendo doesn't limit developers to do shit. The artstyle of the game is a decision of the developer in the end. Sony is fine with 2D/pixel art games too.
I'm pointing out
I wouldn't expect the general population of gamers to know about it, but it is undeniable fact. But what would I know, its not like I ever worked for Activision, on a Nintendo title or anything- OH WAIT, I did. In fact we had an entire DEPARTMENT dedicated to making sure we comply with the myriad of Nintendo regulations imposed on developers.I don't buy your explanation at all.
PS: Megaman X4 was rejected being told it was "Not 3D enough" on the PS1, until they revised the graphics to have a depth to them. So no, your argument doesn't hold any water here, past, present, or future.
Dude, stop using that as your justification for everything. I've seen it in almost every one of your last few posts. Not everyone here is a huge fan of IGA. You're using that as your crutch to explain why you're defending Cox and LoS.Crisis- it's a forum learn to deal with people posting their opinions on a board. I never said you can't dislike lords of shadow i'm just stating why I never got the hate for it. ( that is allowed)....It's just dumb that people are flipping out over a game that we haven't even seen yet either..lol
Instead, you should be focusing on things like atmosphere (that was more Lord of the Rings than Super Castlevania 4, like Cox swore up and down it'd be), music (that was, again, more suited for a theatrical score and NOT for engaging video game music like a good majority of past Castlevania games) and characterization (telling us Gabriel's some tormented, rage-a-holic fellow and neglecting to show it, and slapping CV names on generic baddy bosses as an excuse to call it "Castlevania")
Give me good explanations for all of those, and not the excuse of "Well IGA's stuff is crap too, you guys just love him too much! lol!", and maybe then you'll garner some weight with your rebuttals.
Crisis- it's a forum learn to deal with people posting their opinions on a board. I never said you can't dislike lords of shadow i'm just stating why I never got the hate for it. ( that is allowed)....It's just dumb that people are flipping out over a game that we haven't even seen yet either..lol
See, was that so hard?
And I'm not Crisis, unless you were just quoting me and giving a shout-out to him. Which makes no sense. o_O
Edit: Then you cut out your actually halfway-decent explanation. Why shoot yourself in the foot?
Is this thread going to be a constant bitchfest for the next two weeks? :(
Wow I turn around and Whoa 9 pages?Yeah it will probably be like that maybe with improved combat and movement.
As long as you guys keep it civil, it should be no problem.
BTW, wasn't "The DraculaX Chronicles" a 3D sidescroller? I gather that it will be like that, only with some more exploration.
I don't see the problem. Then again, that's only my assumption of what it might be like. We will see when E3 rolls about, I suppose.
Is this thread going to be a constant bitchfest for the next two weeks? :(
Is this thread going to be a constant bitchfest for the next two weeks? :(
How long have you posted here? Don't you know the trend by now? New game comes out = pissing and moaning.I think he just means the characters and environments are 3d polygons.
Jorge, I thought DXC constituted 2.5D gameplay with 3D cutscenes.
Is this thread going to be a constant bitchfest for the next two weeks? :(
How long have you posted here? Don't you know the trend by now? New game comes out = pissing and moaning.Not very long, I came here around the time when LoS was revealed to be a Castlevania game.
Wow, this sucks.
2D Castlevania, we knew thee well. May you rest in peace.Ha-ha-ha...
I donno, dude. I thought someone got one of their children to get the twist that Belmont = Dracula. It's so childish of a plot idea, and seems like something fitting for fan fiction. But perhaps it's because two of the writers do comic books, and maybe awful plots is a norm there.Not more childish, than Dracula being reincarnated as some japanese dude...and his castle being sealed into solar eclipse by shinto priests...
CastleDan, you're coming off as an obnoxious little kid "nyah nyah cox games are better than your dumb iga games nyah nyah"You're coming as obnoxious LOS-hater, who lashes on anyone who dare to vehemently protect something that you don't agree with. As an always.
Is this thread going to be a constant bitchfest for the next two weeks?
Ha-ha-ha...
So much delicious rage and butthurt (from both sides). Let's add some fuel, shall we?
Not more childish, than Dracula being reincarnated as some japanese dude...and his castle being sealed into solar eclipse by shinto priests...
You're coming as obnoxious LOS-hater, who lashes on anyone who dare to vehemently protect something that you don't agree with. As an always.
OK, now on the topic itself: while I am not 3DS owner, I will eagerly wait what this game will have in store. And, if rumors are true, we finally will have a semblance of the coherent storytelling in the series, art that IGA couldn't decently master through all his years of being series producer.
Not more childish, than Dracula being reincarnated as some japanese dude...and his castle being sealed into solar eclipse by shinto priests...But that is deep and complex storytelling. Which these baka gaijin westerners cannot possibly hope to comprehend and live up to!
There are actually quite many 3DS 2D titles, and many are really good.
Indeed, Mighty Switch Force is one of 'em.
That Mutant Mudds game.
VVVVVV
People should really look at the videos in the 3DSware shop.
I expect many pages of arguing prior to E3.That thread was cursed to have that thread title forever too.
Just like with the "I knew it! Lords of Shadow" thread. **sighs**
No truce then? I guess it only takes one person and the cycle begins all over again.I'm all for one, but it doesn't seem like everyone else is on board. So I just dont see the point in trying. I cant see fan rage just being truced.
castledan, you made yourself look horrible with the juvenile flamebaiting and touting of the most tenuous, delusive aspects. "outdoor locations" and "whip swinging" are vague and meaningless.
wayforward please do something
I still dont understand how people DONT see the Castlevania in LoS. They are just blinded by their hatred of it.
on Cox lying: well, to be fair, he said there would be no QTE's, and there were.
also, the trailers used clever editing to make it seem like we would fight Dracula at the end. And instead, it turned out to be Satan, and we instead had the Belmont BECOME Dracula.
I'm sure that's what bothers more people, and what causes most of the fan rage. That the Belmonts were linked to the Draculas.
(even though Legends did it first)
personally, I can totally see the SC IV in LoS. The atmosphere in certain sections is definitely SC IV ish.
people also complain about the daytime areas, even though Daytime stages are nothing new to castlevania.
I just dont get it. people are entitled to their opinions, however bad taste they may be to me, but there is absolutely no reason to start a war in this topic. AT ALL. We know next to nothing about the game, and already we are complaining about who's making it. Which by the way, we dont know either. Cox is Konami, not MS. Granted it wouldnt surprise me if it was MS, and they seem most likely here, we still dont quite know that. Especially for the 3DS game here. Wayforward is definitely a valid guess.
also, another 2D 3DS game: Mighty Switchforce.
yep.
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I expect many pages of arguing prior to E3.
Just like with the "I knew it! Lords of Shadow" thread. **sighs**
Thanks for the support, there's definitely a bias with some posters. They are fine with some IGA stupidity but not with some David Cox stupidity.Sumac isn't exactly the most rational member of this forum, just saying...
I already said i really liked Aria of sorrow for the most part but I agree with all the points you made.
All I was asking is for people to be fair about this, in the past few years castlevania in general has been getting more and more ridiculous. At least with this re-imagining we can get back to some basics .
Sumac isn't exactly the most rational member of this forum, just saying...The poster after Sumac I agreed with too.
As it turns out, the domain "CastlevaniaMirrorofFate" has been registered by Konami since February, so the title of the game is true. However, going by what Cox said about the information being misunderstood, I'm willing to bet that this is actually the title for the console sequel and that they have no Castlevania 3DS game in development.
The info said we would have two castlevania announcements though, so I doubt that's the case.
I'll choose to ignore those comments as I spent my time defending what I was saying, and was merely implying people should keep an open mind before judging a game without seeing anything because everyone knows judging before seeing is the true juvenile thing to do....what
As it turns out, the domain "CastlevaniaMirrorofFate" has been registered by Konami since February, so the title of the game is true. However, going by what Cox said about the information being misunderstood, I'm willing to bet that this is actually the title for the console sequel and that they have no Castlevania 3DS game in development.Or the 3DS game could have a totally different title.
Stop this, please.
Some people can, some can't. I'm sure I can't see nothing that resembles Castlevania for at least the first third of the game, aside from the names.
Or the 3DS game could have a totally different title.
As it turns out, the domain "CastlevaniaMirrorofFate" has been registered by Konami since February, so the title of the game is true. However, going by what Cox said about the information being misunderstood, I'm willing to bet that this is actually the title for the console sequel and that they have no Castlevania 3DS game in development.This sounds like a very likely possibility, but I hope not. I really need a new Castlevania on my 3DS.
Or the 3DS game could have a totally different title.Because it leads to flamewars. I tought you wanted these to stop.
Why? If people can keep bitching and posting how much LoS isnt a Castlevania and how the franchise is dead, I can keep posting what makes it a Castlevania to me.
Yes, I'm just being biased. :)lol. I personally dont want a 3DS game, for aforementioned reasons, (dont have a 3DS, dont want to see the series relegated to handhelds AGAIN) and would prefer a console 360/ps3 game.
Because it leads to flamewars. I tought you wanted these to stop.Yous should try and convince your side to stop too then. ALL parties involved should stop. But I just dont think it will happen.
what
you lambasted the iga games and their supposed fans, generalizing them as preferring "anime" shit and such and in turn praised lords for the most basic components.
Stop arguing about it? I dropped it last page.You started being totally wrong, with the most ridiculous arguments to boot.
I made my points as to why i defended LOS and I was only pointing out people let IGA stuff slide all the time, and I defended my position by naming why it's clearly very castlevania like.
You don't agree? That's fine I was just pointing out how dumb it is to hate a game we haven't even seen yet.
Stop arguing about it? I dropped it last page.your behavior and attitude were extreme and presumptuous.
I made my points as to why i defended LOS and I was only pointing out people let IGA stuff slide all the time, and I defended my position by naming why it's clearly very castlevania like.
You don't agree? That's fine I was just pointing out how dumb it is to hate a game we haven't even seen yet.
your behavior and attitude were extreme and presumptuous.
but sure thing, everyone should stop and stuff.
So what would everyone think if Wayforward was developing it?(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi16.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb9%2Fpsxphile%2Freactions%2Fspongebob-wallet.jpg&hash=d594abd90d0aef3216d160f970791b61)
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could wayforward handle 3d environments as well as they do 2d? their pixel work is gorgeous.
So what would everyone think if Wayforward was developing it?
They did an awesome job with Contra 4 so I think they can definitely handle Castlevania. Especially if it were in 2D.I wanted Wayforward to make a new ClassicVania as soon as I played Contra 4.
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I mean imagine stuff like that ( obviously not as good graphically) with 3d effects because of the 3ds....
Dayummm...
The 3DS can't even run this.
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I mean imagine stuff like that ( obviously not as good graphically) with 3d effects because of the 3ds....
Dayummm...
The 3DS can't even run this.Who gives a fuck if the 3DS cant run that?
Sorry for the DP, though the post would merge automatically.
lords had a few great sights but castlevania should look spooky. GRIMWOODSI agree.
No truce then? I guess it only takes one person and the cycle begins all over again.Truce was never an option, sadly. It's always ego over stability!
If the animations anything like this
Castlevania Lords of Shadow - Abilities Sketch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlefPGlUs6s#)
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If the animations anything like thisMy wallet is crying tears of money.
Castlevania Lords of Shadow - Abilities Sketch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlefPGlUs6s#)
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Who gives a fuck if the 3DS cant run that?wWell, isn't the title almost confirmed for the 3DS? I was just saying the game wouldn't probably look that beautiful on the 3DS. Rayman Origins is an example of game not looking as good as the other versions.
My wallet is crying tears of money.
wWell, isn't the title almost confirmed for the 3DS? I was just saying the game wouldn't probably look that beautiful on the 3DS. Rayman Origins is an example of game not looking as good as the other versions.
MercurySteam's David Coxx recently changed his Twitter profile image to the following piece of art.
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The one thing that gives me hope of playing as a half vampire.The rumors are saying it's part of a larger poster, and the wolf is Alucard stalking a pale red eyed Gabriel/Dracula.
Unless it just signifies one of dracula's transformations...
to specify on the environments in lords, they were more ancient and mystic. a dusk forest with dead trees wouldn't hurt. even a normal forest in the night, dark and vibrant colors contrasting. web in trees, no goblins.Yes, LoS had that more "ancient" Feel to it. Dark, creepy, spooky, maybe even more gothic themes would be nice. More night. I know people say, "But some earlier castlevanias had day stages", but to tell you the truth, even back then, I can honestly say was wasn't a fan of THOSE either, so it's not LoS bias. I dislike mostly ALL the daytime areas in ALL CV games. I think the night stages benefit the series far more than the say stages. Dark night, cloudy or clear, full moon looming in the sky, rain or wind, stars or not, sound of bats, wolves and night insects from all around. I love that.
The rumors are saying it's part of a larger poster, and the wolf is Alucard stalking a pale red eyed Gabriel/Dracula.
which would make you think you are playing as Alucard....BUT....Alucard using a whip?...hrm..It could be a whip like weapon.
It could be a whip like weapon.The only thing i hate about these belmont focused games is the lack of equipment.
Maybe Trevor is also on the poster.
The only thing i hate about these belmont focused games is the lack of equipment.Well the Combat Cross was destroyed. There might not even be a whip anymore.
I'd be cool with it if it had a portrait of ruin approach. Let you get whips, swords, equipment.
I like options!
Well the Combat Cross was destroyed. There might not even be a whip anymore.
I remember MS saying a while back that they were working on two projects. I had a feeling that only one of them was Castlevania related, but in light of this news, maybe both of them really are?? Not to mention a portable title would finally get me to take the plunge on a 3DS, so that could be good...
Although LoS wasn't my ideal Castlevania game by any means, I still enjoyed playing it. Looking forward to E3 with very cautious optimism (despite it being Konami and all).
And I have to admit, I'm still really curious to see where they take this whole storyline.
And I have to admit, I'm still really curious to see where they take this whole storyline.Likewise. That's probably the majority reason why I'm so excited for E3 despite being disappointed by LoS. I guess it's blind faith in a way.
At least to me...Dracula was always a tragic character and they are really driving home the tragic nature of it in this storyline imo..( symphony of the night did it well though)I'm still not fully sold on Dracula's character. He's just someone who has terrible luck and "never had a choice." At least they explained where he obtains his powers from.
I remember MS saying a while back that they were working on two projects. I had a feeling that only one of them was Castlevania related, but in light of this news, maybe both of them really are?? Not to mention a portable title would finally get me to take the plunge on a 3DS, so that could be good...Like I said, two CV games being announced would be a helluva start for Konami to make up for their rotten 25th anniversary. At the very LEAST!
Although LoS wasn't my ideal Castlevania game by any means, I still enjoyed playing it. Looking forward to E3 with very cautious optimism (despite it being Konami and all).
And I have to admit, I'm still really curious to see where they take this whole storyline.
To whoever said a few pages back that I'm just a "LoS hater,"That's my biggest concern too. I think they are great with level design but we don't know how they would do a sidescrolling adventure. I hope for the best...
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Sit down, son.
Mirror of Fate is a better name than Mirror of Faith or whatever. Perhaps Gabriel will try to change his fate, in turn creating a good mirror-version which names himself Trevor lol. Gameplay wise lets hope they don't fuck up, since this IS MercurySteam's first shot at a handheld and they may very well just be winging it.
You started being totally wrong, with the most ridiculous arguments to boot.And this guy dared to call me "irrational"?!
I already said i really liked Aria of sorrow for the most part but I agree with all the points you made.OOE is one of my favorite games in the series, so its hard to tell that I unconditionally hate IGA too. But when I see how some people again and again bashing something that I like, when it is not neccesary and everything that have could been said about the topic was actually already said (more than one, mind you), I just feel obligated to interfere. No place for the hivemind.
You don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Sit down, son.OK, OK. I honestly believe now, that you're big fan of the LOS...you masterfully hide it.
My wallet is crying tears of money."Poor. beautiful Wallet... You will cry tears of money before this night has ended.." [/PatrickStewart]
Well the Combat Cross was destroyed. There might not even be a whip anymore.
Im certain that Gabriel breaking the Combat Cross will somehow be plot relevant. Not only because Belmonts will need a new whip, but I feel that it means something more... or rather, will, mean something more. probably as a way to bring Rinaldo into the story from the background he's hiding in.He left it in pieces in the realm where the Forgotten One was. Maybe we'll go back there as Alucard to retrieve it or something.
OK, OK. I honestly believe now, that you're big fan of the LOS...you masterfully hide it.
I'd say rayman is pretty faithful across the board. The vita version in particular looks beautiful as can be.Rayman looks like shit on the 3DS. I don't know why, just play the demo and compare it to ANY version out there. It fucking sucks. =/
Rayman looks like shit on the 3DS. I don't know why, just play the demo and compare it to ANY version out there. It fucking sucks. =/
I hope we'll get some cool music pieces, Yamane-like. :)The music is my biggest worry right now. :(
I hope we'll get some cool music pieces, Yamane-like. :)
The music is my biggest worry right now. :(didn't the new composer win an award for his soundtrack for the game too?...
I'd settle for anything with beat and melody that actually grabs you. Castlevania music was doing that before Yamane, and she just managed to continue it, but had people helping her as well with collaborating. Araujo just didn't get that you need more than background noise to make a good soundtrack. It's like he took what SCVIV did and watered it down. We need some rhythm! We need some "Clockwork Mansion" and "Forest of Monsters" thrown into the moody tunes.
It won't happen, however. That would take actual listening to the series fans. Only thing Konami is interested in listen to is the ca-CHING of register sales.
It's cynical and an overused statement, but we all damn well know it's true.
The biggest question on everyone's mind is undoubtedly this:
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Will the game have Medusa Heads flying in 3D?
Haven't played it on the 3ds but it looks great on the wii and the wii isn't as powerful as the other systems. Maybe they just didn't it well on the 3ds. 3ds can produce great things look at the graphics on Resident Evil Revelations. I dont' think we need to be concerned in that area.RE: R uses a corridor based level design to achieve that level of graphics and models. Also, the MT Framework is godlike, doubt we will see something like it on the 3DS from Mercury Steam who can't even achieve stable 30FPS on PS3/XBOX360.
If Araujo is back doing it, then yeah...probably.
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Will the game have Medusa Heads flying in 3D?
RE: R uses a corridor based level design to achieve that level of graphics and models. Also, the MT Framework is godlike, doubt we will see something like it on the 3DS from Mercury Steam who can't even achieve stable 30FPS on PS3/XBOX360.
And I'm not even sure about that anymore. The way Konami is treating their PR, and their own damn projects, I'm becoming convinced they don't want to make ANY money from this point on.
Yeah and this is a sidescroller...it's not exactly the most hardcore hardware pushing type of gameplay style...lolIt is? I'm not assuming nothing yet, I'm just hoping it is.
It is? I'm not assuming nothing yet, I'm just hoping it is.
If it is, It depends of what they want to achieve and how well their framework will be on the hardware.
He left it in pieces in the realm where the Forgotten One was. Maybe we'll go back there as Alucard to retrieve it or something.I'd prefer the Combat Cross to be left where it was. Rinaldo could always create a new, more powerful whip, which could be this new canon's version of the Vampire Killer(kinda another nod to LoI where Rinaldo was vital to the creation of the VK).
Theorizing is fun.
If they find a way to put QTEs and wall shimmying in a 2D format game... I will be very disappointed.
I'd prefer the Combat Cross to be left where it was. Rinaldo could always create a new, more powerful whip, which could be this new canon's version of the Vampire Killer(kinda another nod to LoI where Rinaldo was vital to the creation of the VK).If Rinaldo does show up and does make a new whip, will it be Gabriel's bane or a whip that's not exclusive to Belmonts? There's just so much to ponder going by the old canon and what ideas they're going to rework in this new canon.
If Rinaldo does show up and does make a new whip, will it be Gabriel's bane or a whip that's not exclusive to Belmonts? There's just so much to ponder going by the old canon and what ideas they're going to rework in this new canon.
How many people here are going to buy a 3DS now?I am. Also for KH3D.
How many people here are going to buy a 3DS now?
How many people here are going to buy a 3DS now?
Thankfully I already have one (been playing Chrono Trigger).. and what about The Adventure for the e-shop lol
I don't have many 3DS games. Barely a handful.
How many people here are going to buy a 3DS now?Already have one. I do not regret my purchase, and Castlevania being leaked is the icing with the cherry on top for me.
...if this game is something actually worth while than it will be the final push I need to get one.
Maybe Mirror of Fate is the one they're showing now, but the other they may save for later in the year.Would be nuts if we got both in the same year. I think the console sequel coming out next year sounds more realistic though.
Remember, Lords 2 has been intended as a 2013 title. What if MoF is a 2012 release? Konami doesn't have much for this year.
Mirror of Fate just sounds like a 3DS title. The ps3 title needs a more "epic" subtitle.Man I like your opinions but your sarcasm irritates me. A lot.
like TESTAMENT OF SIN
or Castlevania: Quantum of Solace
Castlevania: Dark of the Moon
Already have one. I do not regret my purchase, and Castlevania being leaked is the icing with the cherry on top for me.
Speaking of which, do shoot me those rumors in a PM. I'm curious and could care less about spoiling myself. I am very very excite.Sent them.
Castlevania always tends to be the tipping point of me buying a console. (Except a TGCD, those are way too fragile and expensive.)
I held off on getting a 3DS and I've been leaning on getting one over the summer.
Now depending on how MoF looks, it might just push me over the edge.
i wonder how the Anti-Chapel members feels about all thisI'm surprised that place still exists. I thought they all abandoned Castlevania when LoS came out.
i wonder how the Anti-Chapel members feels about all this
I was more excited until i saw cox using the wolf picture as his profile picture which it means , its another lords of shadow "another game made for not my typos"
Exciting stuff.All the rumors can be found in this thread. ;)
I'd love to get a PM of those rumors too. ;)
Exciting stuff.Man I wish I could just copy paste everything I've sent. Too bad there's no feature where you can just look at messages you've sent and relay that.
I'd love to get a PM of those rumors too. ;)
I'm surprised that place still exists. I thought they all abandoned Castlevania when LoS came out.
I think one of Successor the Cruel posted here recently, but that was about Lords 2. Wonder how he feels about the portable front going to Mercury Steam, too.Who cares what they think? That place is dead anyway.
EDIT: And seriously, post the rumors here. Nobody is going to hang you if they're wrong or right. Playing secrecy on something that's sort of already out of the bag is a little meaningless.
EDIT: And seriously, post the rumors here. Nobody is going to hang you if they're wrong or right. Playing secrecy on something that's sort of already out of the bag is a little meaningless.Alright, fine.
The game will be a Metroidvania, 2.5D. 3D graphics but side scrolling, so think Dracula X Chronicles on PSP. Lords of Shadow canon/art direction, the combat will be similar to LoS.
There will be no leveling up, and the design of the game meshes stages with Metroidvania maps, so I guess something similar to Order of Ecclesia?
First he told me he believes the protag is Alucard, but now he thinks it could be Trevor Belmont when he had no textures put on him at the time. Whoever it is, the protag uses a whip. There will be a Belmont clan, he assures me Alucard is present, and Trevor is the father of Simon Belmont.
Were supposed to get a CG trailer of Dracula, and two announcements for two new games. 3DSVania which will be a prequel to LoS2 but a sequel to LoS1, and the console sequel.
I want to know what Mr. P's Castlevania Realm thinks, because I fight against the trend.
Also, if it's Alucard, I wonder if they'll retain his Symphony look? Vampire Gabriel does somewhat hearken back to SotN's Dracula, albeit more savage.
Oh, that's it? I already read that. I thought you had some PORTRAITofRUIN shit going on with an entire boss list, plot details, and area names.Nope, I know just about as much as you guys do now. Why do you think I was speculating for a bit in the last couple pages of the thread? :P
Don't count on Cox to retain anything that wasn't there before he took over.
To add to the those rumors regarding the console sequel:Am I the only one who thinks of a 3D Simon's Quest when I read this?
That Castlevania game is rumored to be non linear like Darksiders or Arkahm City.
To add to the those rumors regarding the console sequel:
That Castlevania game is rumored to be non linear like Darksiders or Arkahm City.
To add to the those rumors regarding the console sequel:
That Castlevania game is rumored to be non linear like Darksiders or Arkahm City.
The new engine will have better framerate, better image quality and bigger enviroments with little to no loading.
The PS3 version is the lead platform and while the 360 version runs fine, it will require disc swapping again to access eariler areas.
To add to the those rumors regarding the console sequel:
That Castlevania game is rumored to be non linear like Darksiders or Arkahm City.
The new engine will have better framerate, better image quality and bigger enviroments with little to no loading.
The PS3 version is the lead platform and while the 360 version runs fine, it will require disc swapping again to access eariler areas.
Plot, setting and protagonist is still up in the air.
Also, if it's Alucard, I wonder if they'll retain his Symphony look?
To add to the those rumors regarding the console sequel:
That Castlevania game is rumored to be non linear like Darksiders or Arkahm City.
The new engine will have better framerate, better image quality and bigger enviroments with little to no loading.
The PS3 version is the lead platform and while the 360 version runs fine, it will require disc swapping again to access eariler areas.
Plot, setting and protagonist is still up in the air.
Am I the only one who thinks of a 3D Simon's Quest when I read this?
anything but these
I've thought about it for a while now and I believe since Lords of Shadow's art direction and character and monster designs were clearly inspired by guillermo del toro, I think Alucard will look like Prince Nuada from Hellboy 2.That's a very good theory.
Prince Nuada - Lord Of The Drums (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFeybAxP3z0#ws)
Wow last time I checked it was 9 pages, but now it's already in it's twenty's :o
far from it look like if it is true then MS is stepping their game up. This new engine must really be something.
If I recall right, from the same article that got us talking about LoS 2 being on its way, an image from a presentation showed up, but nobody here talked about it.Looks like it's from Clive Barker's Jericho. There's several images of zombies with the same mark on their foreheads when I do a google search.
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Do we know what game that's from? It clearly looks like Lords of Shadow, but I don't ever recall seeing that ingame.
Looks like it's from Clive Barker's Jericho. There's several images of zombies with the same mark on their foreheads when I do a google search.
Was about to say that after reading could not read all of the post it's crazy,but holy hell is it incredible, finally a lively topic :) yet call me crazy but this was posted on cox's twitter right? Still to think that the engine might out do the los engine and that was a pretty freaking good engine.
Good in textures, awful in framerate. So many people on NeoGAF don't want any game from MS now because of how the framerate was in LoS1.
Honestly, the only framerate issues I've ever had in LoS were in the Necromancer's Abyss. When the horde of zombies appeared and you had to ring the gong or something, my 360 literally CHUGGED because there was so much shit on the screen at once.
Other than that, I really don't recall dealing with anything terrible when it came to the frame rate.
Honestly, the only framerate issues I've ever had in LoS were in the Necromancer's Abyss. When the horde of zombies appeared and you had to ring the gong or something, my 360 literally CHUGGED because there was so much shit on the screen at once.
Other than that, I really don't recall dealing with anything terrible when it came to the frame rate.
It's not that the framerate drops that's the issue to some, it's the fact the game is at such a low framerate to begin with.I personally never saw the issue, it looked fine to me. Sometimes I think GAF whines for the sake of whining.
I personally never saw the issue, it looked fine to me. Sometimes I think GAF whines for the sake of whining.
I'm curious about the "combat being similar to LoS". Really? In a sidescroller? I mean, it's definitely possible but I kinda would prefer something less combo heavy for a 2.5D sidescroller. If that's what we're getting.
*pant pant*
Whew...just managed to run through all of this thread.
Lots of good discussion. I'm hoping this may just be the 2.5D Castlevania I've been waiting for.
I'm curious about the "combat being similar to LoS". Really? In a sidescroller? I mean, it's definitely possible but I kinda would prefer something less combo heavy for a 2.5D sidescroller. If that's what we're getting.
i haven't swapped a disc since FFIX lol.. get a ps3 people!!
I assume it's gonna look like or be similar those sketches of Gabriel demo-ing the combos in LoS
if there's QTE's in this game then i'm gonna raaaage
Same here, but some people have really good eyes for this shit.Most of GAF are actual insiders/people who work in the industry, so from a technological/business standpoint they have a better idea of what they're talking about than we do. That's why a majority of leaks occur there.
I'm curious about the "combat being similar to LoS". Really? In a sidescroller? I mean, it's definitely possible but I kinda would prefer something less combo heavy for a 2.5D sidescroller. If that's what we're getting.I don't understand it either, but I'm just assuming it means whoever we play as will be just as acrobatic/impressive as Gabriel was. Basically, more flashy/defensive attacks instead of just spamming something over and over again. Like in the original Castlevanias where even Skeletons were a threat opposed to how whimpy they are in the Metroidvanias, I think we'll be seeing that in the game. I don't think we'll be seeing any QTEs in this game though, QTEs do not sound like a good idea in a 2D game.
I'm curious about the "combat being similar to LoS". Really? In a sidescroller? I mean, it's definitely possible but I kinda would prefer something less combo heavy for a 2.5D sidescroller. If that's what we're getting.
Hecka crazy right?
What type of QTE's? The ring stuff, or the stupid press _ on-screen prompts?
Knowing MS they'll probably create a new type of QTE we haven't seen before.
Knowing MS they'll probably create a new type of QTE we haven't seen before.
You quoted me as Foofy?!? ):
anything but these
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I've thought about it for a while now and I believe since Lords of Shadow's art direction and character and monster designs were clearly inspired by guillermo del toro, I think Alucard will look like Prince Nuada from Hellboy 2.
Prince Nuada - Lord Of The Drums (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFeybAxP3z0#ws)
So... Hope? Guys? :)
YEEEEEEEESSS!!! :D FINALLY!! Though, I just hope it's 2d sprites not the 3d sprites that is in the PSP of Dracula X. Not a big fan of it...
I just want more things to do with the whip. I feel like they only scratched the surface with what they could do with it in LoS. Being able to swing across chasms, repel up walls, and even use it as a support to run across the surface of walls was pretty great and one of the best platforming moments of LoS. They made the whip not only your primary weapon, but also your greatest tool/asset.
Subweapons had much to be desired, I still miss my axes, boomerang crosses, and stopwatches.
IN another topic, speaking of Music, given that Araujo is an Orchestral Developer I'd love to be in line with something like this:that was a real nice listen to.
"Castlevania" by the National Symphony Orchestra at the Filene Center (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR-G5-2Svcg#ws)
That was a suite I've never heard before, and from a musical kind of point, I think it's the BEST
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This is how it should be
IN another topic, speaking of Music, given that Araujo is an Orchestral Developer I'd love to be in line with something like this:
"Castlevania" by the National Symphony Orchestra at the Filene Center (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nR-G5-2Svcg#ws)
That was a suite I've never heard before, and from a musical kind of point, I think it's the BEST
Yeah, battle-wise, that's kind of what I was thinking.
Music-wise, however, I'm going to have to disagree. I know it's blasphemy, but I'm kind of done with the remixes of the "classic" songs. While catchy, they were limited by the amount of sound channels the NES possessed, which ultimately resulted in that simple, catchy, ringtone style. This sound just kept getting emulated as time went on.
It also doesn't help that they're not thematic at all. The music doesn't have to be theatrical and grandiose, but IMO, it needs to fit with the darker path the series has forged for itself.
Wait so something like this e105beta if not then :'(
Deforestation - Super Castlevania IV 'Forest of Monsters' cover by Thunder Thouin (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVoBQn0oYYo#)
Or
Castlevania Lords of Shadow: Gabriel's Theme (FAN-MADE!!!!!) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5OvICyNoRo#)
and this
Castlevania- The Vampire Killer (Inspired by Lords of Shadow) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8WtHXKTYdk#)
The leaker is still leaking apparently.
He says that the press has already had their hands on it but are under NDA till E3. There is a whole castle to explore but the area's are level based like the old games but backtracking and exploration for new powerups is always a avalible.
So the castle is the setting and the map layout is like Order of Ecclesia. I dunno guy's it's starting to sound........good.
Can I say my body is ready yet?
Even then, I'd want them to stay out of the "happy" range. It just takes a bit of the "oomph" out of the environments when everything is so upbeat.
As far as this video goes, more 3:30, and less 1:40 and 4:10
eh, you know I must admit I disliked order the most out of the IGA games. Mainly because the environments were even more repetitive within each level. Sometimes just being a straight line till the end....
I also don't know how i feel about it if it's very basic ...I kinda love the metroidvania style and I'd miss it if it's gone for good....
Still excited to see a 2.5d from mercurysteam...
The leaker is still leaking apparently.That wasn't the same guy (it didn't sound like him), but damn that sounds wonderful.
He says that the press has already had their hands on it but are under NDA till E3. There is a whole castle to explore but the area's are level based like the old games but backtracking and exploration for new powerups is always a avalible.
So the castle is the setting and the map layout is like Order of Ecclesia. I dunno guy's it's starting to sound........good.
You cant tell meGod, Bloodlines OST is absolutely sublime. Utter perfection, this makes me miss Yamane a lot.
this
Castlevania Bloodlines Music - Iron blue intention (Stage 4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH9X1iRAjC0#)
sounds "happy"
The leaker is still leaking apparently.
He says that the press has already had their hands on it but are under NDA till E3. There is a whole castle to explore but the area's are level based like the old games but backtracking and exploration for new powerups is always a avalible.
So the castle is the setting and the map layout is like Order of Ecclesia. I dunno guy's it's starting to sound........good.
I liked the last two. Not so much the first one until 2:40
LoS' best tracks are Waterfalls of Agharta, Theme of Belmont, and the main LoS theme which was pretty epic. we need more like that. Less the battle themes which I WILL admit, sounded a bit too fantasy movie. Needs less tuba, more strings, possibly more piano or organ. organ might stretch it a bit with them, honestly, but just lessen the tuba, as I notice those seem to be the tracks that get the most "LotR" response from people.
also, IMO, Iron Blue Intention is a pretty serious theme. It sounds heroic, but still dark and serious.
You cant tell me
this
Castlevania Bloodlines Music - Iron blue intention (Stage 4) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nH9X1iRAjC0#)
sounds "happy"
Also yeah, Carmilla's boss theme was a real fun nod to the Dracula boss theme.
well, in general, the sequel needs more tracks PERIOD- as that was one fault I felt with the game from the start. I wasnt a fan of how it used it's music as atmospheric pieces and therefore reused most tracks multiple times.
it's just "Doin' the strut and killin' shizz Genesis style".But isn't that the best kind of music for Castlevania?
PortraitPortrait of Ruin was better than Order to me....
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Ruin
But isn't that the best kind of music for Castlevania?
Portrait of Ruin was better than Order to me....
This is how i rate IGA'S handheld games.....
The last three are always changing....
Symphony of the night> Aria of Sorrow> Harmony of dissonance> Dawn of Sorrow> Portrait of Ruin> Order.....
Damn, that was amazing. The Iron Blue Intention and LoS segments gave me chills. That's the kind of music this new canon needs; melody and beat on a grander and richer scale.I don't agre with people saying that LoS music was not "Catchy" nor Recognizable, I didn't Expect that LoS bit and I was utterly transported to that game when I heard that tiny bit. It has its charm.
eh, you know I must admit I disliked order the most out of the IGA games. Mainly because the environments were even more repetitive within each level. Sometimes just being a straight line till the end....
I also don't know how i feel about it if it's very basic ...I kinda love the metroidvania style and I'd miss it if it's gone for good....
Still excited to see a 2.5d from mercurysteam...
Related to the Leaker info: Are we talking about the 3DS game? not a word about the Console version? :(Kingshango posted some rumors regarding the console sequel a few pages back.
The only thing I disliked about OOE is that Shanoa did not use a whip my god for her to whip and whip it good.
Yeah, I always found it strange that Shanoa didn't get a whip glyph.
Cause she didn't, did she? In that case I completely missed it.
Yeah, I always found it strange that Shanoa didn't get a whip glyph.
Cause she didn't, did she? In that case I completely missed it.
Nope. Just swords and giant LAZUR BEEMS
And hulk arms made of stone.
It's funny when you think about it.
They created a Castlevania character that could basically use any weapon ever made with the help of glyphs. And then they completely forgot about the most iconic weapon in the Castlevania franchise. Makes me LUL a little. :D
But LASUR BEAMS are great too.
What bugged me about OoE is not that there was no whip, but there was no Morris character.
It's funny when you think about it.Had to be intentional.
They created a Castlevania character that could basically use any weapon ever made with the help of glyphs. And then they completely forgot about the most iconic weapon in the Castlevania franchise. Makes me LUL a little. :D
It was one of the reasons I originally came to dislike the course IGA ended up taking with the series. It was like he forgot all about the series's roots.
What bugged me about OoE is not that there was no whip, but there was no Morris character.
What bugged me about OoE is not that there was no whip, but there was no Morris character.But technically there were 13 Belmonts (One of the,m the very daughter of Richter) so I think all is forgiven :P
It was one of the reasons I originally came to dislike the course IGA ended up taking with the series. It was like he forgot all about the series's roots.LOL, you're kidding right?
But technically there were 13 Belmonts (One of the,m the very daughter of Richter) so I think all is forgiven :PWhoa what? Who was the daughter of Richter? I didn't catch that.
But technically there were 13 Belmonts (One of the,m the very daughter of Richter) so I think all is forgiven :P
Whoa what? Who was the daughter of Richter? I didn't catch that.The Old Lady (Can't remember her name) Said at her last dialogue line that she was the daughter of a Legendary vampire hunter (and assuming Ecclesia takes palce in early 1800's it must be Richter)
LOL, you're kidding right?
Not one bit. I know it might be baffling to some, but IGA's last few games are nothing like the Castlevanias I played when I was a kid, save for some recycled sprites and name dropping.That's funny: it sounds exactly like LoS.
That's funny: it sounds exactly like LoS.
People are gonna hate us all for filling this thread with Order of Ecclesia talk.
I didn't know LoS had any recycled sprites in it.well actually, if you put in the konami code, you get a little CV2 Simon Belmont sprite above your light magic bar, which mimics your actions. :D It's kinda cute.
That's funny: it sounds exactly like LoS.Ehm nope? LoS is a translation of the Old Basic formula IMO
well actually, if you put in the konami code, you get a little CV2 Simon Belmont sprite above your light magic bar, which mimics your actions. :D It's kinda cute.It bums me how almost no one tlaks about this.
well actually, if you put in the konami code, you get a little CV2 Simon Belmont sprite above your light magic bar, which mimics your actions. :D It's kinda cute.
I didn't know LoS had any recycled sprites in it.I was talking about the name dropping, the gameplay is everything, but Castlevania. The sceneries were a lot good, though.
well actually, if you put in the konami code, you get a little CV2 Simon Belmont sprite above your light magic bar, which mimics your actions. :D It's kinda cute.I found that out right before I sold my copy. Isn't it actually Simon's sprite from the original Vampire Killer?
Not one bit. I know it might be baffling to some, but IGA's last few games are nothing like the Castlevanias I played when I was a kid, save for some recycled sprites and name dropping.
That's funny: it sounds exactly like LoS.
well actually, if you put in the konami code, you get a little CV2 Simon Belmont sprite above your light magic bar, which mimics your actions. :D It's kinda cute.
I was talking about the name dropping, the gameplay is everything, but Castlevania. The sceneries were a lot good, though.
Flame do you know how to do this on the 360 or anyone I did the K-code at one point but it seems that it did not work. I do want simon on the screen. :'(I know how! just put it after the "Press start" prompt appears in a pre-stage loading screen :)
I know how! just put it after the "Press start" prompt appears in a pre-stage loading screen :)
I'm going to politely disagree, and leave it at that.
I'd like to point out, I wasn't trying to turn this into an IGA/Cox war. I loved IGA's earlier games, up until about AoS, and I have plenty of things I would like to see improved about LoS. Both IGA and Enrique have shown they have positives and negatives, and I'm not sure why any discussion of either of them always trends towards hailing one while lambasting the other.
You mean you didn't recognize the candles dropping hearts/items everywhere? The wall meat? The medusa heads & mermen? All the references Harmony of Dissonance had to past games (there are literally dozens)? The maoi heads, "Julius Mode," etc.
And hey, the classic games recycled sprites, too.
Wow, this thread goes to 28 pages in one night! And there's no real info about this game except that it's gonna be made for the 3DS with "Mirror of Faith" as the title.*Fate :P
Wow, this thread goes to 28 pages in one night! And there's no real info about this game except that it's gonna be made for the 3DS with "Mirror of Faith" as the title.Tell me about it... Dafuq am I supposed to keep up with you guys? :-/
*Fate :P
Tell me about it... Dafuq am I supposed to keep up with you guys? :-/Ok, an insider leaked the information that 2 new Castlevanias are being in development. One of them, a console sequel running in a new better engine with open world elements and better perfomance, and a 3DS game called Mirror of Fate, starring Alucard and/or Trevor Belmont serving as the sequel to the original Lords and a prequel to the main console sequel, set some hundred of years after Gabriel's transformation (With him being the main guy). It's supposed to be a 2D/2.5D/3D (don't have idea) game confirmed to be produced by Dave Cox and written/directed by Enric Alvarez. We don't know if Mercury is developing it though.
Oh, right. It was "Mirror of Faith" last night... And now it is "Mirror of Fate"!Domain registration
I forget who said this but Rayman Origins doesn't look bad on the 3ds...In fact all the graphical effects and such seem to be in place... ( just downloaded the demo)...Yup, it's a blurry mess, the graphics were simplified. The sound is attrocious, the game runs at 30FPS, the gameplay is worse than the consoles/PC/vita version. It's completely shit. I'm not the only one with this oppinion, go look on Neogaf the reception.
I think the thing you think looks bad is the screen resolution, unfortunately the screen doesn't have that great of a resolution so it looks quite blurry, and the sound effects I admit are atrocious....As far as the graphical powers though it looks fine to me.
I can only imagine what the castlevania is gonna look like on this, wowzers...
There's another new report surfacing about. Take this with a questionable whip, though.So Mirror of Fate is the name of Both games. Good!
As some of you may have seen Castlevania: Mirrors of Faith(3DS) got leaked earlier today, this news coincides with it. Castlevania: Mirrors of Faith will be shown with a Castlevania Lords of Shadows Sequel which is hinted for a PS3, Xbox 360, Vita, and Wii-U release. The Wii-U and 3DS Castlevania Titles are said to be Cross Compatible according to our source, which makes us ponder about the Cross Compatibly for Vita and PS3.The 3DS Version of Castlevania: Mirrors of Faith, will also feature Co-op play and will be a 2-D sidescrolling game.
At least you got my name right. We can share it.
And Ahasverus, it's not implying they're the same name. It's implying they're both going to be revealed at once, the way Castlevania games tend to usually be revealed.
The 3DS Version of Castlevania: Mirrors of Faith, will also feature Co-op playWhat is the other version? O.o
What is the other version? O.o
You said Mirror of Fate is the name of both games. All of the reports keep calling the other game a Lords of Shadow sequel, so perhaps that name hasn't been revealed yet.Ok I get it :)
You said Mirror of Fate is the name of both games. All of the reports keep calling the other game a Lords of Shadow sequel, so perhaps that name hasn't been revealed yet.
Ok I get it :)
Yeah source please! (not that it matters, I'm batshit excited right now, reminds me of the Ecclesia leaks time ;D )
So its:
Wii U: Mirror of Fate
3DS: Mirror of Fate
PS3: LoS2
360: LoS2
And the two Mirror of Fates are joined in some way while the others are ports of the LoS sequel?
So its:
Wii U: Mirror of Fate
3DS: Mirror of Fate
PS3: LoS2
360: LoS2
And the two Mirror of Fates are joined in some way while the others are ports of the LoS sequel?
VITA: LoS2
It's from the NeoGAF thread.
http://www.dualpixels.com/profiles/blogs/rumor-more-castlevania-games-getting-revealed-at-e3 (http://www.dualpixels.com/profiles/blogs/rumor-more-castlevania-games-getting-revealed-at-e3)
No, if it's true, it looks like this.
3DS: Mirror of Fate
PS3/360: Lords of Shadow 2
Wii U: Lords of Shadow 2 with Mirror of Fate connectivity
Think Order of Ecclesia + Judgment.
It's down for me.
why do you peeps keep leaving out the vita version?..
You are freaking me out everytime you do that... It was in the info too!
I'm guessing it's because the Vita's not exactly a popular system right now.
Holy fuck.
That is a HUGE leak.
Mercury Steam and Konami now have A TON to live up to, they may have definitely redeemed themselves for missing the anniversary.
EDIT: WIIU!! YES!! Now I don't have to buy anymore shit for my 360! :D
That site is still calling the game Mirror of Faith. I trust Mirror of Fate more.
The 3DS wasn't very popular when it first debuted, either
re: huge price drop
You said the Vita isn't a popular system, neither is the 3DS according to Nintendo
Sony handhelds have never sold well. Castlevania at the very least stands a chance of sales on Nintendo platforms. The sequel to LoS is coming to Vita, anyway.Which is great. I don't have a vita but my brother does and the system is so beautiful, that screen deserves a castlevania on it.
You said the Vita isn't a popular system, neither is the 3DS according to NintendoThat's not true at all.
The 3DS outsold any other Nintendo handheld in its first year.
The point is when it started off it had horrible sales, it took a big price cut and mario to finally come out for it to start succeeding.A lot of games were canned too because of the 3DS's rough start. I don't regret my purchase anymore though.
The 3DS outsold any other Nintendo handheld in its first year.
Vita hasn't even hit it's 2 million sales mark yet, the 3DS is quickly approaching about 20 mil. now. Maybe more.
The point is when it started off it had horrible sales, it took a big price cut and mario to finally come out for it to start succeeding.
And?
It means that statement was false?
i'm just saying that 3DS had a rough start, too. they're both incredible pieces of technology
If Castlevania is really coming to WiiU, wow. Man, I wonder what new approach they'll take with it. They have to be doing something with that screen in the middle of the controller.
I wonder if Shanoa will make a cameo in some form or another.Shanoa would be awesome.
We can dream. :P
just like how we were talking about OoE's story, we're just passing time till the rumors come true, no harm in that.
the 3DS may have outsold previous Nintendo handhelds it's first year, but apparently they still think it underperformed or else they wouldn't have dropped the price so drastically & so fast. perhaps Sony should consider a similar tactic with the Vita, I dunno
Simon, in his full CV1 regalia, hammering the crap out of ET SUNT DRACUL could possibly be too glorious to contain on a PS3/360 disk.It would be awesome if they go for a look close to his CV1 design instead of the LoS prototype.
It would be awesome if they go for a look close to his CV1 design instead of the LoS prototype.
I'm starting to get in over my head now with excitement, damn.
there's still nothing to get too excited over OswaldWhy do you keep calling me that.
Shanoa would be awesome.Isn't it Trevor?
What has me more excited is that the sequel supposedly stars Simon friggin' Belmont!
Isn't it Trevor?Trevor is supposedly in Mirror of Fate.
Trevor is supposedly in Mirror of Fate.OH NOES
Wait, so is Ps3/360 still getting anything here? I dont wanna have to buy new consoles for this... :CLords 2 is coming to all the major consoles, WiiU included.
I hope we see more original Belmonts native to this timeline too rather than mirror versionsLikewise, but Simon sounds too amazing to pass up.
Wait, so is Ps3/360 still getting anything here? I dont wanna have to buy new consoles for this... :C
Wait a second.
The rumors say Co-Op is involved. Didn't David post a screenshot of two guys in LED lights doing pushups?
Trevor and Alucard?This. And a cameo of Sypha and Grant.
So going off of what we know, who do you think will be the two protagonist for the 3DS game?Trevor and Alucard.
So going off of what we know, who do you think will be the two protagonist for the 3DS game?
Trevor and Alucard?
Or Trevor and Simon?
Why are they(we?) skipping Christopher & going straight to Simon? Am I the only one realizing this?Christopher isn't that well known.
Why are they(we?) skipping Christopher & going straight to Simon? Am I the only one realizing this?
it's a joyous time for allnot everyone is ready to celebrate just yet
Cox and Enric can throw around names like Trevor and Simon all they want but neither characters were ever vampires or half vampiresJeez, I really hope this isn't the direction they take for the Belmont clan. Being half vampires just sounds so dumb, why have a bunch of half vampires when you already possibly have Alucard. The idea was silly in Legends, and it's still silly now.
b-but Christopher has just had his own game just a couple years agoYeah I'm kinda bummed about Christopher too, but trimming fat and all that...
and then there's The Adventure being released for the e-shop lol
Cox and Enric can throw around names like Trevor and Simon all they want but neither characters were ever vampires or half vampires so I'll be waiting to see exactly what plans they have for the Belmont family before I start getting excited over a new Castlevania game created by them.
Remember when you used to see lots of tv commercials for all sorts of different games, back in the day? What happened to those days? All I see now are ads for World of Warcraft and Modern Warfare.
Agreed, for all we know the story could be entirely different & Alucard could end up looking like Olrox (remember how vampires in this timeline look before becoming "full-fledged vampires")
a lot of people are going to be saying "WTF!" when they see this/these game(s), just as many will be saying "WOW!"
A storm's coming...
a lot of people are going to be saying "WTF!" when they see this/these game(s), just as many will be saying "WOW!"I'm trying pretty hard to keep my expectations in check, but it's not working. All of these leaks are not helping at all.
A storm's coming...
The leaker is still leaking apparently.LOL, stage-based areas, but freedom of backtracking. Isn't that like my proposed idea for a classicvania/castletroid hybrid I pitched a bit ago? Great minds think alike! ;)
He says that the press has already had their hands on it but are under NDA till E3. There is a whole castle to explore but the area's are level based like the old games but backtracking and exploration for new powerups is always a avalible.
So the castle is the setting and the map layout is like Order of Ecclesia. I dunno guy's it's starting to sound........good.
Cox know cotdamn well how popular Alucard is to Castlevania fans and it would take seriously gigantic balls for Mercurysteam to fuck him up design wise.if that wolf in the poster is indeed Alucard, I have high hopes for him in the new canon already. The wolf is a big throw back to SotN. Heck, Laura had Alucard's mist form in the DLC.
if that wolf in the poster is indeed Alucard, I have high hopes for him in the new canon already. The wolf is a big throw back to SotN. Heck, Laura had Alucard's mist form in the DLC.
I wonder if Shanoa will make a cameo in some form or another.
We can dream. :P
Or Devil Forgemaster Issac. D:
Tuba? Sure you don't mean those heroic French Horns and brasses? Though I suppose bombastic brasses do include a tuba in there...There is a prominent tuba in final confrontation (and it's awesome!... though I'm biased, I'm tubist ;D )
Quite a crazy day, I can't believe all of the stuff we've learned today.
These next two weeks are going to be very long.
Shit the way things are going we might get a screenshot this week, if not next week.I hope so.
Shit the way things are going we might get a screenshot this week, if not next week.Why not TODAY?
I just realised something, how big is Mercurysteam currently? I can't believe they could be big enough of a team to not only make two Castlevania's, but on various systems, including a unreleased console and two portables.Alvarez recently said they were around 105
Last I remembered they were a team of 48 people working on Lords of Shadow.
Could someone put up the link to the source of all this?There's no source :P
Alvarez recently said they were around 105
There's no source :P
I just realised something, how big is Mercurysteam currently? I can't believe they could be big enough of a team to not only make two Castlevania's, but on various systems, including a unreleased console and two portables.
Last I remembered they were a team of 48 people working on Lords of Shadow.
Yeah, battle-wise, that's kind of what I was thinking.
Music-wise, however, I'm going to have to disagree. I know it's blasphemy, but I'm kind of done with the remixes of the "classic" songs. While catchy, they were limited by the amount of sound channels the NES possessed, which ultimately resulted in that simple, catchy, ringtone style. This sound just kept getting emulated as time went on.
It also doesn't help that they're not thematic at all. The music doesn't have to be theatrical and grandiose, but IMO, it needs to fit with the darker path the series has forged for itself.
I'd definitely go with something more like this:
Even then, I'd want them to stay out of the "happy" range. It just takes a bit of the "oomph" out of the environments when everything is so upbeat.
As far as this video goes, more 3:30, and less 1:40 and 4:10
I mean, there were a couple of great moments like that in LoS. Like the Carmilla fight:
Castlevania Lords of Shadow Carmilla Boss (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWhWXOlc524#ws)
At 9:50. Nice way to play with the NES Dracula music.
Quite a crazy day, I can't believe all of the stuff we've learned today.
These next two weeks are going to be very long.
Not nearly as long as this thread will be if it keeps going the way it has been. It'll be like the LoS thread... I wonder if this thread will break the record for being the longest..?I wonder if my respect gauge will surpass Jorge's before then. Jesus it went up like 30 points today.
The graphics aren't really that simplified they look the same to me. The framerate/blurry/sound are legit complaints. That's stuff we just have to live with with such a low resolution screen and a handheld system.The graphics ARE simplified. I don't really see how can you NOT see this. You must be blind. Here:
It is a bit concerning for sure, but Rayman was made for those big HD consoles, this castlevania game is being specifically made for 3DS so it will prolly run better.
seriously though what is up with the sound on this thing?....Revelations had poor sound quality too....Does the 3ds have a bad sound specs?
Is it realistic that a Castlevania game would be developed for four different systems? Not sure about the Vita but I don't think (although being able to handle a lot apperently) it could run a game of PS3/Xbox360 proportions.
It's okay. The Kojima seal of approval will likely return, effectively lowering the floodgates for Konami dollars to overflow. (Not that I'm complaining; Castlevania could be Mega Man, for example.)
;_;I know that feel bro.
I know that feel bro.
Back on topic, I'm very interested to see what the ratio of Classicvania to Metroidvania the game will turn out to be. Hopefully it veers towards the former.
If E3 has trailers for BOTH these games, I'm probably gonna pee myself. But in a good way.
Wait, this was the same game Paul Gale was teasing back in 2010? This creates an interesting situation: he said back in 2010 that IGA was working on this very game..
http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2010/12/21/koji-igarashi-working-on-new-castlevania-for-3ds/ (http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2010/12/21/koji-igarashi-working-on-new-castlevania-for-3ds/)
If both Cox and IGA takes the stage at E3 and presents Mirror of Fate I'll LOL. It would instantly end the whole Cox vs. Iga debate.That, or both camps could scream heresy and swear themselves off CV forever. LOL
Mirror of Fate sounds more lika an IGA game to me. As does the "camera" gimmick. It would also explain why Cox wrote "wrong end of the stick" on twitter when asked about this game...
What do you think?
Sorry to bring this back again, but I was playing Diablo 3 and the topic moves too fast!The graphics ARE simplified. I don't really see how can you NOT see this. You must be blind. Here:
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abload.de%2Fimg%2Fraymanoriginspeu0l.jpg&hash=b16dc9b19c9dfa3d9203b175052e0df1)
1) You don't have to be rude.
2) It's not that big of a difference, it's not as vibrant and it's blurry. It's not a huge difference where i'd be like...the artwork doesn't look as good!1111 It's still a pretty game on the 3DS, that was my point.
The sound however is soooooo horrible.
The framerate is rather weak, too. Everything seems like it's missing frames because it moves so slowly.
If both Cox and IGA takes the stage at E3 and presents Mirror of Fate I'll LOL. It would instantly end the whole Cox vs. Iga debate. A part of me hopes that they're making the game together, just for the lulz.
I hope the overall quality isn't lost due to them spreading it over several platforms.
Mirror of Fate sounds more lika an IGA game to me. As does the "camera" gimmick. It would also explain why Cox wrote "wrong end of the stick" on twitter when asked about this game...
What do you think?
Mirror of Fate sounds more lika an IGA game to me. As does the "camera" gimmick. It would also explain why Cox wrote "wrong end of the stick" on twitter when asked about this game...
What do you think?
Good thinking, sir. I think so too. Also, note that the article has a picture of IGA...
If both Cox and IGA takes the stage at E3 and presents Mirror of Fate I'll LOL. It would instantly end the whole Cox vs. Iga debate. A part of me hopes that they're making the game together, just for the lulz.
A good collaboration might just be what the fans and the series needs.It will end all the internal wars really. A complete Utopia. Gaming gods, let it happen!
If Cox and MS bring what did the success of LoS (quality of the game) and if IGA and his team bring more traditional CV elements, be sure it could be the new best game of the series.
There's also Masahiko Kimura, co-composer of DoS, plus that guy who composed for some of DXC and OoE. Both of them were good.
And there's always hope that Yuzo Koshiro will come back.
...plus that guy who composed for some of DXC and OoE.You mean Yasuhiro Ichihashi.
They could always just use Araujo again. His music in LoS was a bit different than what were used to, but it wasn't bad music. If Cox and Iga are allegedly working together, maybe we'll have multiple composers as well.Araujo is already confirmed to be the composer for the console sequel, but we don't know if he's making the MoF OST.
MoF
I'm betting Araujo is NOT making the OST for Mirror of Fate. He's an Orchestra man not chiptune. So, time to put your hopes up Araujo-naysayers? :P
Is sound quality really even an issue anymore?
But listening to this, perhaps Araujo could make a simpler soundtrack, like he did in Scrapland
timecode music scrapland ost (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEr-sKf2YqE#)
Scrapland - Ending (HD) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8oQXQRUdqg#)
VGM Hall Of Fame: Scrapland - Welcome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0URHKRSMVCs#)
I've been watching some videos of this game, and man these guys are great at graphics, I mean, it's a 2004 game. I'd be glad if the 3DS game loked like this.
If I remember correctly, the Kid Icarus: Uprising music was orchestrated. Perhaps we'll see the same with MoF.
There's also Masahiko Kimura, co-composer of DoS, plus that guy who composed for some of DXC and OoE. Both of them were good.
And there's always hope that Yuzo Koshiro will come back.
It would be absolutely nuts if Mercury Steam and IGA were working on MoF together. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it was happening. 2D Castlevania is IGA's forte after all.
That's valid, but I mentioned framerate being worse originally too. I'm saying the actual graphics look fine, it isn't a 360/ps3 that's rendering this. This was made with those systems in mind....That's the problem. The game was delayed, A LOT, and they promised the same game on all platforms. Guess what? The 3DS version sucks (BTW, the problem with the image are the simplified backgrounds and enviroment, the vines are almost just a line; muddy and blurry colors and low, very low resolution). The Vita and Wii versions are identical to the PC/PS360 versions, INCLUDING the 60FPS. If they couldn't do that on the 3DS, I prefer them not releasing there at all.
My main point was the castlevania game for 3ds was BUILT from the ground up for the 3DS, that's the main difference.
Who the hell was going through the last 2 pages -1 ing everyone?
I just want this to hit a home run konami. I means is it odd that I want these games to sell well over a million copies, get a front cover on magazines like gameinformer, and have long ass commercials and stuff.Yep, it's now or never. Konami, this is your chance to make Castlevania sit atop with the most important franchises.
Who the hell was going through the last 2 pages -1 ing everyone?
Idk but they sure as hell like doing it to me everytime I post....
waits for it
Idk but they sure as hell like doing it to me everytime I post....Hahah man seems that they love you now :D
waits for it
everyone's losing their minds it seems.. and there's still no hardcore proof of anything
Idk but they sure as hell like doing it to me everytime I post....
waits for it
IGA + Cox...
I don't know how I would feel... my body wouldn't be ready, you know...
Let's see if they'll make these games more like Castlevania now, removing the shitty parts from it and adding what fans were asking.
Let's see if they'll make these games more like Castlevania now, removing the shitty parts from it and adding what fans were asking.I'm not expecting everything to be 100% the way it used to be, but I'm hoping our criticism helped them achieve a balance most fans will enjoy more.
I would like Kotobukiya or Play Arts KAI to make some Castlevania figures/statuesI kinda wonder WHY they actually didn't make a line of LoS action figures. I mean, it did well, didn't it? Square Enix released Play Arts figures of Bayonetta characters.
I truly hope Konami won't spoil the whole thing by coming at E3 with "zOMG MGS Revengeance Raiden lolol $$$ Hideo Kojima" and make Castlevania its biggest spot.
This series is LEGENDARY, it deserves that!
I kinda wonder WHY they actually didn't make a line of LoS action figures. I mean, it did well, didn't it? Square Enix released Play Arts figures of Bayonetta characters.
Also, I thought Koshiro's 5 PoR tracks were really good, especially the background themes. So while his contributions were minor, I would really like to hear him do a full Castlevania soundtrack. At the very least, I'd imagine it would sound like Actraiser, and that would be perfectly excellent for a CV soundtrack.
Gentlemen. The times has come.
Time to spam Konami Europe twitter mail and of course Cox twitter. Castlevania needs to be under the spotlight, not an afterthought after MGR. This is the chance of the series lifetime.
Gentlemen. The times has come.I want to make a video for that. I really want.
Time to spam Konami Europe twitter mail and of course Cox twitter. Castlevania needs to be under the spotlight, not an afterthought after MGR. This is the chance of the series lifetime.
Is anyone else super stoked that we might be playing as Alucard again??
That just excites me, playing as a vampire is such a cool feeling for whatever reason. Transformations need to be back! ...It'd be nice if his scenario has items to collect but I won't hold my breath.....
Can't wait regardless! Two different castlevania games with ( probably great production value since Kojima is involved nowadays)....
excited!
We have another rumor, but I don't think it's from the leak guy. I'm just gonna post it for the sake of having no real concrete news yet.No f@#$%^&* way :o is it too late for us/me to sub to them? Please awnser.
All of the initial rumors of cross platforms/vita is BS, but Nintendo Power subscribers will be getting a limited edition cover of Simon.
Is anyone else super stoked that we might be playing as Alucard again??
That just excites me, playing as a vampire is such a cool feeling for whatever reason. Transformations need to be back! ...It'd be nice if his scenario has items to collect but I won't hold my breath.....
Can't wait regardless! Two different castlevania games with ( probably great production value since Kojima is involved nowadays)....
excited!
I'm not expecting everything to be 100% the way it used to be, but I'm hoping our criticism helped them achieve a balance most fans will enjoy more.That's exactly why I'm cautiously optmistic. They have TWO chances to do right now... what are the chances of them fucking my hype now, like they did with LoS (I was STOCKED by the trailers and before they shown the gameplay)?
As long as the games are fun to play over and over again, I will keep supporting the brand.
We have another rumor, but I don't think it's from the leak guy. I'm just gonna post it for the sake of having no real concrete news yet...wait...wait...
All of the initial rumors of cross platforms/vita is BS, but Nintendo Power subscribers will be getting a limited edition cover of Simon.
We have another rumor, but I don't think it's from the leak guy. I'm just gonna post it for the sake of having no real concrete news yet.Now that's a bummer. However with Paul Gale's story comes a better ressurement of earlier stories.
All of the initial rumors of cross platforms/vita is BS, but Nintendo Power subscribers will be getting a limited edition cover of Simon.
Now that's a bummer. However with Paul Gale's story comes a better ressurement of earlier stories.Game magazine, it's for Nintendo Power.
Still, how's that about a limited edition cover of Simon? A limited edition magazine cover or game cover? Hahahah.
..wait...wait...No WiiU or Vita versions. No "crazy shit" that has everyone hyped up for it in the first place.
A vita version of the game is BS...or just the cross platforming aspect............
O_O
No f@#$%^&* way :o is it too late for us/me to sub to them? Please awnser.No clue.
Game magazine, it's for Nintendo Power.
Remember the Simon's Quest cover for NP back in the day? Sounds like a big throwback to it.No WiiU or Vita versions. No "crazy shit" that has everyone hyped up for it in the first place.No clue.
Game magazine, it's for Nintendo Power.
Remember the Simon's Quest cover for NP back in the day? Sounds like a big throwback to it.No WiiU or Vita versions. No "crazy shit" that has everyone hyped up for it in the first place.No clue.
I hope it get's announced so I can subscribe to it.It's probably bullshit.
Where did you get that information?Same place where I met the leak guy, that super shitty anonymous image board.
I hate your new rumors, OSM :PI don't like this new one as much either.
but isn't it safer to trust the sites reporting this information because....well.....Yes. Probably.
they do have sources....and those sources....have played the game...and it's coming from actual press?
:(
that super shitty anonymous image board.Oh.. that place :shrugs:
I'm done posting anymore rumors, I just want E3 to hurry up. I don't believe this new one at all.Nooo!! If you know something from the leaker, please tell us
so wait... the leaks are coming from 4chan?
so wait... the leaks are coming from 4chan?Not all of them
so wait... the leaks are coming from 4chan?The cross platform shit is from the press.
The cross platform shit is from the press.
The Trevor/Alucard, Metroidvania shenanigans is from 4chan and from the original leaker.
This new rumor about Simon on the cover is fresh and hot, and from someone else.
Ok, these are the facts:I believe the original rumors/Paul Gate/press rumors more. There's a ton of stuff backing it all up.
Mirror of Fate exists.
That's all.
:)
Alright rather than read all 43 pages of stuff, can someone just tell me the important stuff?http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2012/05/21/its-time-to-share-the-wii-u3ds-game-that-paul-gale-network-hinted-at-2011s-final-hour-castlevania-mirror-of-fate/ (http://paulgalenetwork.com/home/2012/05/21/its-time-to-share-the-wii-u3ds-game-that-paul-gale-network-hinted-at-2011s-final-hour-castlevania-mirror-of-fate/)
Alright rather than read all 43 pages of stuff, can someone just tell me the important stuff?3DSVania exists.
3DSVania exists.Didn't u just say you believe the press?...lol
That's about it.
why would the dutch source and paul gale network be parroting things from 4chan?Paul didn't. He supposedly knew about this since december 2011
Didn't u just say you believe the press?...lolI'm just focusing on 3DSVania right now. I didn't even think of Lords 2. :P
If you did you would mention LOS2 and all the systems it's for! :P
- Not sure who is developing yet. The original leak says Mercury Steam but this may be false when taking into account Cox's comment on the rumor. The Paul Gale article also didn't want to reveal who is making it, suggesting it might be a suprise.I can't wait to see this place explode when IGA steps onto the stage.
I'm just focusing on 3DSVania right now. I didn't even think of Lords 2. :PI can't wait to see this place explode when IGA steps onto the stage.
Am I the only one who would prefer MercurySteam working on a sidescroller than IGA?...IDk, Mercury under IGA's baton would be a dream come true.
IGA's castlevanias have been getting less and less creative as far as level design.... I used to think they were bad at 3d level design only but then the 2d ones got worse.
IDk, Mercury under IGA's baton would be a dream come true.
The WHOLE japanase team is not so hot though. but a few consultants would rock.
Paul didn't. He supposedly knew about this since december 2011
This is almost as amazing as that Charlotte thread.
Alright rather than read all 43 pages of stuff, can someone just tell me the important stuff?That exactly why I said to post everything released on the OP.
So I just got back and Im reading there is no Wii U version? Is the 2 player co op for the 3DS rumor false too?
As for the Nintendo Power rumor, I have to admit, it would certainly make the teaser at the end of last month's issue make sense. If it does end up being Castlevania, you better believe I'll scan that sucker and post it up.What teaser?
What teaser?
More than anything I'm excited for Co-op. And making absolutely ridiculous faces for puzzles.
Castlevania: Mirror of Fate
- Stars two different playable characters.
Coveniently, they don't list the other platforms rumored. Seriously, that's shitty journalism, being biased because of the name of the site.It's called GoNINTENDO for a reason. :P
If it's being developed by IGA, I wonder if the plot will attempt to bridge the Lords universe into the main canon. Stranger things have happened with the plots.
It's called GoNINTENDO for a reason. :PLike I've said, the name of the site don't impede them to post the complete news, UNLESS they're being paid by Nintendo.
The site only reports news that's related to Nintendo.
If it's being developed by IGA, I wonder if the plot will attempt to bridge the Lords universe into the main canon. Stranger things have happened with the plots.I hope not.
If it's being developed by IGA, I wonder if the plot will attempt to bridge the Lords universe into the main canon. Stranger things have happened with the plots.Hmm... interesting,but if it does not work then all hell will break loose
Cox Belmont and IGAcard.i'd pay extra to play as cox, the ultimate warrior, wielding the wwe championship.
Calling it now.
If it's being developed by IGA, I wonder if the plot will attempt to bridge the Lords universe into the main canon. Stranger things have happened with the plots.
i'd pay extra to play as cox, the ultimate warrior, wielding the wwe championship.
The WWE Championship or the Cena belt everyone uses now? :3cthe spinner belt because he had it in the hip hop gamer interview. it can be used as a compass.
i'd pay extra to play as cox, the ultimate warrior, wielding the wwe championship.
the spinner belt because he had it in the hip hop gamer interview. it can be used as a compass.
Bah, nevermind. I went and took another look at it but forgot it said 'comrade' at the end and the mysterious image is in red. Makes it sound like whatever game may have something to do with Russia.
This Friday is gonna be awesome. :)What's happening Friday?
What's happening Friday?
Hey, that person that used to go to those conferences, do they still come to the dungeon? And if so, are you going this year?
One rumor claims images are dropping this Friday.(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F9Xte3.gif&hash=5d3ee631a4881beebe4a9d8ebc725498)
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Source please.
Heard it off of /vg/, but there's lots of spreading from many places that the game will be in Nintendo Power, and that RMC of GoNintendo has known about this game for a while because of it.That lends a little credibility to the rumor of Simon appearing on the cover.
The 'one for the generations' makes a lot of sense if everything we heard of the game so far is true. Old characters in a new continuity, old Castlevania staff with new Castlevania staff working on a new project...I thought that was a hint for Metro: Last Light.
so can we expect to see a trilogy of games for the 3DS now? i wonder.....It's been a golden rule/tradition that there must be three Castlevania games on each Nintendo handheld. I fully expect and hope it.
I thought that was a hint for Metro: Last Light.
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That's the preview/teaser for the next Nintendo Power.Yea, I don't think this has anything to do with Castlevania.
I can't see nothing that resembles Castlevania there...
Yea, I don't think this has anything to do with Castlevania.
I was gonna say "maybe it's Romania?" but a quick google search immediately debunked that.
No way @ those recent rumors being true. Im a optimist but that just not right.I deleted it, I don't believe it but I'm hearing some things on 4chan backing it up. It sounds very plausible.
But then again, REBOOT!
Yea, I don't think this has anything to do with Castlevania.
I was gonna say "maybe it's Romania?" but a quick google search immediately debunked that.
EDIT: Nah, I'm not posting anymore rumors.
Two other thoughts about this situation:
1. Handheld and Console games to reveal at once? Hm... I'm getting a sense of deja vu from the IGA days.
2. This being the case, MS must have a shit-ton of work cut out for them, or maybe have two different teams, one for each game?
Two other thoughts about this situation:
1. Handheld and Console games to reveal at once? Hm... I'm getting a sense of deja vu from the IGA days.
2. This being the case, MS must have a shit-ton of work cut out for them, or maybe have two different teams, one for each game?
None of these recent reports have even said it's being made by MS, other than Enric Alvarez being involved. And I believe Paul Gate himself said it's a surprise, and he was the first source about Castlevania 3DS.If it's a surprise, it HAS to be IGA with a few other Konami veterans.
lords 2 won't be released till November 2013
heard it here first!
None of these recent reports have even said it's being made by MS, other than Enric Alvarez being involved. And I believe Paul Gate himself said it's a surprise, and he was the first source about Castlevania 3DS.
If it's a surprise, it HAS to be IGA with a few other Konami veterans.If THAT turns out to be true, hell yeah, it's totally forgiven that we got a shitty 25th anniversary. Seeing Cox, IGA, with other veterans on board a CV project.... awesomeness! It would be Dream Team Castlevania(kinda like what happened with Chrono Trigger).
Also had a thought... It'd be hilarious and amazing if you had the option to use the camera to put a texture of your face on the rumored Belmont/Alucard characters.LOL, kinda makes me want a Stalincard. XD
Or a Mii. AND YOU... HITLER BELMONDO
Iga and Cox. The two guys who fucked up the Castlevania story line. And you people are excited about them working together?
Iga and Cox. The two guys who fucked up the Castlevania story line. And you people are excited about them working together?
I'm guessing that Cox and Alvarez are heading the project but having a different team on Mirror of Fate while the LoS team are working on the LoS sequel
Iga and Cox. The two guys who fucked up the Castlevania story line. And you people are excited about them working together?
Still, the comment on Cox twitter read "Wrong end of the stick" when asked about Mirror of Fate. One could argue that the "stick" is the Castlevania franchise as a whole, with Cox at one end and IGA on the other. But that's just my interpretation and I'm notorious for being wrong ;)
How can you fuck up what was nonsensical standalone games in the first place? Previous to them they were just games with no connections.
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What are you talking about? Iga got rid of the Belmonts, with NO explanation, made it possible for anybody, with any type of weapon, to defeat Dracula, "Japanised" the series, turned Dracula into a Japanese teenager, made pointless and lackluster sequels, reused sprites way too often, created Judgement, etc, etc.
"Random nobodies" means Hector and Shanoa- one guy whom Death states is imbued with the power of Dracula and fights a possessed man, and a woman who uses Dracula's own power to destroy him. Not exactly what I'd call nobodies.
Then there is PoR where you play as Jonathan, who is part Belmont. Not exactly without precedent, given Bloodlines. Gasp, you can even beat Dracula in that game as Eric LeCarde. That means fuckin' Tomikatsu Kirita not only shoehorned not-real Belmonts into the game, he even made it so that Eric could kill Dracula. I knew that Tomikatsu was the Castlevania producer who had it out for the Belmonts!
Then there are the Sorrow games, where you...play as Dracula and fight cultists.
So that leaves Leon Belmont and Juste Belmont.
Basically, the whole 'IGA hates Belmonts/whips/MEEEEEEEE' is unfiltered dumb filtered through a ton of dumb.
is /vg/ the source that is saying potential screens friday? i think im about to start drooling with all of this new info.I think so. I'm honestly psyched, whether it's 2D or 3D. I'd like to see it produced by IGA, directed by Alvarez, and using much darker enemy designs, and featuring Simon or Trevor.
Also Castlevania has (http://images2.fanpop.com/image/photos/13100000/Richter-in-Rondo-of-blood-richter-belmont-13184454-369-378.jpg) never been (http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/characters/bartley.gif) "Japanised (http://attackedbygorillas.com/files/image/axel/cvl-sonia.gif) prior to IGA? Really? Pray tell, what series have you been playing?
Also Devil Forgemasters created monsters for Dracula. Dracula only possessed Isaac, in which Dracula even conveniently states "THE TRANSFORMATION....WAS IT NOT COMPLETE?!" If you recall, Hector told Julia he felt it was suicide to go into Dracula's Castle without the VK, but succeeded anyways because it wasn't really Dracula.
Also OoE occurred prior to Bloodlines, when the Morrises had the whip instead of the Belmonts. The whole 'Morrises have taken over for the Belmonts' was established in 1994. Fuckin' Time-Travel IGA, am I right?
@beingthehero:
It's ridiculous that Hector, Shanoa, and Soma even exist. Why the hell would Dracula and Death need "Devil Forgemasters?" And why do they not need the Vampire Killer to kill Dracula? And what is the point of Shanoa, in a game filled with Belmonts? And if the Belmonts can't use the Vampire Killer, which is never even given a reason, then why wasn't the playable character a Morris? And don't even get me started on Soma.....a Japanese kid, who just so happens to be the reincarnated Dracula.
Why would Dracula, the "Dark Lord," and/or Death need anybody to create monsters for them in the first place? And if he wasn't really Dracula then who was he? He sure seemed like Dracula to me. He even transformed in to his "human" and monster forms. He returned by possessing Isaac.
What does Bloodlines releasing in 1994 have to do with anything? I asked why a Morris wasn't around for OoE. If OoE takes place before Bloodlines then why wasn't a Belmont a playable character? If they can't use the Vampire Killer then why was there never a reason given? Or better yet, why even make a game in that time period? Why make a game after the Belmonts but before the Morris'? It's not like this game progressed the story line at all. It just added more redundant characters.
And no, Iga is not a time traveler......he just introduced them to the series. :rollseyes:
Take a chill pill.
For good or ill, the characters are all explained in universe, so the question of "why?" becomes completely moot.
Signs point to a Belmont filled future on the Castlevania horizon, so instead of moaning about what has been, look forward to what is to come.
You know what it is? I grew up with the series since the original on the NES and seeing it take so many bad turns, mostly because of Iga, really aggravates me. This series has had so much wasted potential since the beginning.
I actually enjoy Iga's games. It's his story telling that I despise. I feel story lines are very important.
Castlevania never had an history in the first place. Unless you count the manuals and the titles screens as "history". Them Sonic has a big history too.
Franchises like Castlevania, Megaman, Sonic, Mario... they were NEVER meant to be played because of their stories. They were kept simple for a reason.
I sometimes wish that Castlevania would've kept things really simple, story-wise, like in the old days. There's a fantastic atmosphere in games like Super Castlevania 4 because the game is so mysterious and "low-key" (dunno if that's the word I'm looking for here).I love Demons/Dark Souls. It reminds me of CV a lot more than LoS actually, specially the monsters and how the story is very simple. The difficult is fair too, just like the first Castlevania.
There are modern games like Demon's/Dark Souls that handle storytelling in a very satisfying way (IMO) because they're so damn mysterious. Castlevania could've stayed like that - silent, eerie and mysterious - but it kind of went in the opposite direction instead. But I don't really mind it. I play 100% for the gameplay, and the story is always at least passable. I think IGA had great intentions with his storytelling, trying to make Castlevania more than what it once was. I don't blame him even though I sometimes wish he'd done things differently.
I love Demons/Dark Souls. It reminds me of CV a lot more than LoS actually, specially the monsters and how the story is very simple. The difficult is fair too, just like the first Castlevania.
Thomas Belmont, I totally agree with your points and I stated them here many times before. But, as time has proved, people who approach so "beloved" IGAvanias with legal criticism will not find an understanding here. We will be trolled and insolently insulted as if we dared to commit an atrocious sin of pointing an obvious flaws that people tend ignore because of their commitment to those games. Such is the way of the "fans".
Don't mind them. Let them exist in their reality where flaws doesn't matter. It doesn't change the fact that those flaws do exist. Some people accept them, some do not.
Thomas Belmont, I totally agree with your points and I stated them here many times before. But, as time has proved, people who approach so "beloved" IGAvanias with legal criticism will not find an understanding here. We will be trolled and insolently insulted as if we dared to commit an atrocious sin of pointing an obvious flaws that people tend ignore because of their commitment to those games. Such is the way of the "fans".
Don't mind them. Let them exist in their reality where flaws doesn't matter. It doesn't change the fact that those flaws do exist. Some people accept them, some do not.
I am disturbed about the way you talk about the forum populace, and I don't think that what you're saying helps the situation at all.
It's like "Don't mind these people, they are morons. But we tolerate them because we're higher beings. **adjusts monocle**".
Then again, perhaps I'm misconstruing your tone, but considering you're the one with the "Watched" status, maybe I'm on to something.
I will advise everyone who employs these tactics to curb that behavior.
Thomas Belmont, I totally agree with your points and I stated them here many times before. But, as time has proved, people who approach so "beloved" IGAvanias with legal criticism will not find an understanding here. We will be trolled and insolently insulted as if we dared to commit an atrocious sin of pointing an obvious flaws that people tend ignore because of their commitment to those games. Such is the way of the "fans".
Don't mind them. Let them exist in their reality where flaws doesn't matter. It doesn't change the fact that those flaws do exist. Some people accept them, some do not.
I love Demons/Dark Souls. It reminds me of CV a lot more than LoS actually, specially the monsters and how the story is very simple. The difficult is fair too, just like the first Castlevania.
Yeah but the Demon/Dark Souls games have like no music whatsover so that won't do for CV. Castlevania games need to have an awesome soundtrack. I can agree that the gameplay is much closer to CV than LoS is.
Yeah but the Demon/Dark Souls games have like no music whatsover so that won't do for CV. Castlevania games need to have an awesome soundtrack. I can agree that the gameplay is much closer to CV than LoS is.The OST isn't like Castlevania, but it's good for the game, like LoS. I don't like to listen the music outside the game though... just like LoS.
This song, however, is AWESOME. There's something almost Castlevaniaish beginning at 0:53. Or maybe not. But still:
Dark Souls OST - Taurus Demon (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzWFWCH_lTE#ws)
That made me laugh. Thanks.
Seriously guys, Youtube has the same system.
And now you are loved too!
Really? I got -2 for saying that the pic Jorge posted made me laugh? No, the "Respect" point system isn't broken at all.
And now you are loved too!
Why does no one love me :'(
Oh well, it's not going away.I just wish we had ACTUAL confirmations.
For every one guy who hates it, there are nine who like it.
It was suggested by enough people.
We're veering off topic. Let's get back to talking about the games, please.
I just wish we had ACTUAL confirmations.
Is anyone else concerned about the camera/mirror thing being just another tacky gimmick? I still loath DoS's Magic Seals...
Is anyone else concerned about the camera/mirror thing being just another tacky gimmick? I still loathe DoS's Magic Seals...
Definitely.Let's see if it's Cox who did the gimmick and the comments about it then.
For one, if IGA's really involved, I don't really want him pulling his "Ohoho, the game has a mirror gimmick, so the new main character is going to be Mirror Belmont who fights with his mirror image, Mirrorcard" I mean really, adapt the gimmick to fit the world, not the other way around.
For two, I don't see how camera's and Castlevania go together at all.
Let's see if it's Cox who did the gimmick and the comments about it then.
Of course, there's still the possibility that this is simply all the elaborate work of a top secret troll network and Konami actually has nothing for E3 besides Revengeance. Which would be incredibly tragic.That would be
Not to mention, if this does turn out to be IGA's game, I'm not exactly hopeful that Konami's going to give him a lot of budget to work with. Because, well, they're Konami.Is it too much wishful thinking if we hope that being under Kojima Productions seal it gets a little, just a little more money enough to make it good? I hope so!
The camera usage does definitely sound like an IGA thing. But for me the excitement is, "2D game! With co-op! Kinda like the old games! Oh, and there's some camera thingy too but 2D!!!"
Of course, there's still the possibility that this is simply all the elaborate work of a top secret troll network and Konami actually has nothing for E3 besides Revengeance. Which would be incredibly tragic.
Not to mention, if this does turn out to be IGA's game, I'm not exactly hopeful that Konami's going to give him a lot of budget to work with. Because, well, they're Konami.
And Revengence looks terrible.Terrible Metal Gear Solid, yep. Terrible Platinum Games action game? Such a thing doesn't even exist 8)
Mirror mirror on the wall who is bitching and moaning out of them all?
Terrible Metal Gear Solid, yep. Terrible Platinum Games action game? Such a thing doesn't even exist 8)
So far.
What I wanted was an innovative Metal Gear Solid game with a new unique combat system.
What I'm getting is Raiden May Cry
I kind of wish Revengeance were a Nanobreaker reboot actually.I second this.
What I'm getting is Raiden May CryRaidenetta! (Dance number confirmed?)
While I'm highly anticipating Revengeance, I totally sympathize with your complaint of "Why is my favorite game series suddenly changing audience/genre?" It's stupid and companies need to learn to make new IPs.That's why the game is a spin-off. I consider only the numbered titles/remakes the ones canonical do the series.
I kind of wish Revengeance were a Nanobreaker reboot actually.
While I'm highly anticipating Revengeance, I totally sympathize with your complaint of "Why is my favorite game series suddenly changing audience/genre?" It's stupid and companies need to learn to make new IPs.
I kind of wish Revengeance were a Nanobreaker reboot actually.
I kind of wish Revengeance were a Nanobreaker reboot actually.
What do you think about reviving getsu-Fuma as a prominent character in the Castlevania series and then giving him his spin-off?
What do you think about reviving getsu-Fuma as a prominent character in the Castlevania series and then giving him his spin-off?
Guys... Kojima is tweeting about a "Friday event"
Could the rumor about new info on friday be TRUE?
I said this way back, but I would also want a reboot of getsu fuma he deserves one and the time is ripe for a samurai/ninja theme game with ninja gaiden 3 failing from what I hear and no onimusha for lords knows how long. A fuma remake would be incredible.
Guys... Kojima is tweeting about a "Friday event"Yes, Kojima production performs an event on Friday.
Could the rumor about new info on friday be TRUE?
Yes, Kojima production performs an event on Friday.
ZONE OF THE ENDERS HD (HAIDARA) NIGHT: Quickest in the Space -ReBOOT Preview- (http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/hd/zoe/index.html).
This is ZOE event. I don't think that Castlevania information disclosure occurs here.
Please tell me I'm not the only person getting sick of HD remakes.
Anything, but I cannot see It would be at a very certain place in time seeing that in the early 1600's japan went under sakoku maybe if a belmont either one ended up in japan like the one guy in shogun by james clavell (really need to read that book again) by accident, or if there was a storm brewing and belmont needed to be there and stuff or the other way around, or belmont was with the Portuguese to give muskets away. I see it as somewhat hard to do. But either way it needs to happen.
I think a Belmont sneaking in with missionaries would be the most likely scenario there. A monster hunter among monks lol.
too bad i asked michiru yamani and she said to me she doesn't know anything about CV:HOF
Now i'm so sure that we wont see her on castlevania never ... just dammit
If anything don't you think she needs a break from cv let her do something else that is how I see it.
but i hope that break wont affect on her touches cuz skullgirls was her latest job and i bought the game just to listen to her songs but i got surprised the soundtracks wasn't that good .. it was just normal
Really I have not heard her skullgirls soundtracts yet.In fact I am surprised she did the music for it or maybe I just forgot about it.
too bad i asked michiru yamani and she said to me she doesn't know anything about CV:HOF
Now i'm so sure that we wont see her on castlevania never ... just dammit
If both IGA and Cox are going to present this game I hope they are going to do a comedic duo act complete with eye poking and throwing pies.
The running gag would be that they both think of themselves as the producer of the Castlevania series while accusing the other of being a fraud.
guys who would agree to see CV:los presented in 2d ?
More Castlevania is always a good thing in my book and with Mirror of Fate and Lords of Shadows 2 being spread out over 3DS, Wii U, and other platforms (for the latter of the two), it looks as though Konami is set out to please all of its different fans.
Random comment from Paul Gale:
Or I'm just looking too much into this.
Of course it wont, Konami would be braindead to put out Lords of Shadow 2 up against games such as
Assasinse Creed 3
Boarderlands 2
Resident Evil 6
Call of Duty: BLOPS2
Halo 4
Whatever first party that comes out for the Wii U
and many others. However I do see Mirror of Fate coming out this year.
To be honest, having MercurySteam do the 3D titles like IGA handles the 2D ones would be the best course. It pleases everyone.
I agree with that. IGA can't make a good 3D Castlevania game, but he has experience with 2D graphics, unlike Cox who he is more than good with 3D graphics, so i think that would be the best solution for all the fans of the serries.
That way, we can have both 2D titles, for the old canon along with 3D titles for the new canon.
At the same time the sidescrolling moments in Los were breathtaking and had nice platforming so I wouldn't put it past that team to do something incredible with it. If they can do great 3d design I'm sure they could come up with 2d.
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Perhaps, but since they are working mainly with 3D, it would be a waste of time to put them into making a 2D game, when you already have someone with the knowledge, but that's my opinion.
Anyway, while DoS was mediocre game, at least for me, still i love the 3D graphics for the final castle area, the pinnacle. I would love to see a new 2D Castlevania game, using that style for the enviroments/backgrounds graphics.
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I can't see cel-shading as an automatic negative Silverlord. Some of my very favorite games use it. Mainly the original Sly Cooper trilogy which I love to pieces, they were able to create a wonderful unashamedly cartoony neo-art deco world with that. Complete with deliciously moody, deep-blue and black night levels at times.
So I think if the devs do go with Cel-shading for a Castlevania as long as the rest of the art direction works with it it shouldn't be a problem.
To be honest, having MercurySteam do the 3D titles like IGA handles the 2D ones would be the best course. It pleases everyone.I agree, since I don't really care if it's IGA or not doing a Castlevania, I just care if the gameplay will be good enough and the "Castlevania feel" will be there.
I mean, look at WayForward and where they were before Contra 4. Who would've guessed that they had excellence in them? The were experienced with 2D but many (not all) their previous efforts were rather terrible. Though maybe that's what happens to small game studios in the beginning, struggling to make a living. They're stuck with all these awkward kiddy licenses until someone gives them a chance.
To be honest, having MercurySteam do the 3D titles like IGA handles the 2D ones would be the best course. It pleases everyone.
I know Cox is a big fan of SCV 4, so I just hope there's going to be lots of whip swinging
And if the MUSIC has changed gears to be more what we all expect a Castlevania soundtrack should sound like.I'm expecting more of the same.
Yeeeeah, I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that, given how he claimed to be such a big fan of SCV4 and that Lords was going to be so much like it, then it ended up more-or-less flopping in that department. (having dark and moody areas, does not a Super Castlevania 4 tribute make)
Cox says he's a big fan, but any one of us could say that about ourselves. Lords of Shadow didn't really come off like it was a labor of love for Cox and a tribute to his fondness of the game, at least to me. Symphony of the Night did, and it was because there were plenty of both throwbacks that honored the past games, whilst also having a bunch of new and original stuff to set itself apart. (Not praising IGA himself on this one, just the fact that SotN meshed well and you KNEW it was a Castlevania game) That's the issues several of us have - Lords just didn't feel Castlevania to us.
Maybe he'll get it right with Mirror and LoS2. I don't know. He hasn't instilled a lot of faith in me in terms of what he's doing for the franchise, but I'll give him another shot if it looks like he's learned and listened to fans to even just a small degree.
And if the MUSIC has changed gears to be more what we all expect a Castlevania soundtrack should sound like.
Yeeeeah, I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that, given how he claimed to be such a big fan of SCV4 and that Lords was going to be so much like it, then it ended up more-or-less flopping in that department. (having dark and moody areas, does not a Super Castlevania 4 tribute make)
I guess I'm gonna clarify some shit, Damage control starting:
it's on the 3Ds because it's the portable with the most fanbase AND every other CV game was on the DS lately.
2d gameplay and neither the camera nor the 3D are used at all gameplay-wise.
Is it metroid or classic-vania? really a bit of a misture, The castle and its surrounded are very delimited areas, but a lot of them have maze-like layout (others will be mostly going forward jumping and facing enemies that you can't just avoid)
And yes, Nintendo power subscribers will receive an special Simon Belmont (LoS version) cover while the average joe will be able to buy a Trevor one.
And no WiiU LoS2 (don't know anything about the Vita rumours)
Simon is barbarian in appearance with a beard, Trevor has a coat over his armor that looks similar to Gabriel's.
I know I said no more rumors, but this one lends more credibility to the Nintendo Power rumors. From 4chan:
Could you give a link, OSM?http://boards.4chan.org/v/res/140441335#p140450501 (http://boards.4chan.org/v/res/140441335#p140450501)
We know that the part of the camera not being used is false.I think so too. Only thing I'm potentially bummed about is no LoS2 on WiiU if it is true.
I really dislike the fact that we don't know what rumors are real. Saw is that Paul guy reporting fake info?...because I really want a vita castlevania and i'll be pretty mad if that all turns out to be fake.
I would prefer Alucard over one of the two... actually... isn't Simon and Trevor related? Are they really alive at same time?They're supposed to be father and son.
Thats why they are called "RUMORS".Except the paul site this weren't really rumors and it's reliable, plus he was the one that originally broke the news on the playstation fighters game..
I would prefer Alucard over one of the two... actually... isn't Simon and Trevor related? Are they really alive at same time?
Except the paul site this weren't really rumors and it's reliable, plus he was the one that originally broke the news on the playstation fighters game..
I am really not sure how i am feeling about this... i just got lords of shadow for my PS3... and i'm not real happy with it... it's as if they threw everything Castlevania related out the window just about..... and why the hell is the devil the last boss?! O.o
The music feels wrong to... and where are the candles you gain things from?!
Granted i like the main character, at least he's a belmont... but.. then he BECOMES dracula?! *face palms*
So yeah... i mean.. i want to be excited.... i'm just not... but i would love to be wrong, i would love to be blown away even!
I hope i am wrong, and i look forward to being blown away.
I think the music is what felt off the most to me... it just.. reeks of western development... all the japanese charm is gone... i feel like... you have to have a LITTLE of that japanese charm.. otherwise it feels nothing like a CV game.. and Lords of shadow.. so far... feels like a game that could have had any other title, and it would make more sense.... to me anyhow....
Sooooo you can see why i am worried about these games... and why i am hoping for the best...
I am really not sure how i am feeling about this... i just got lords of shadow for my PS3... and i'm not real happy with it... it's as if they threw everything Castlevania related out the window just about..... and why the hell is the devil the last boss?! O.oThere are some candles in the castle that drop sub-weapons... not that it matters, it's just another little nod, but not fully integrated into the game.
The music feels wrong to... and where are the candles you gain things from?!
Granted i like the main character, at least he's a belmont... but.. then he BECOMES dracula?! *face palms*
So yeah... i mean.. i want to be excited.... i'm just not... but i would love to be wrong, i would love to be blown away even!
I hope i am wrong, and i look forward to being blown away.
I think the music is what felt off the most to me... it just.. reeks of western development... all the japanese charm is gone... i feel like... you have to have a LITTLE of that japanese charm.. otherwise it feels nothing like a CV game.. and Lords of shadow.. so far... feels like a game that could have had any other title, and it would make more sense.... to me anyhow....
Sooooo you can see why i am worried about these games... and why i am hoping for the best...
I am really not sure how i am feeling about this... i just got lords of shadow for my PS3... and i'm not real happy with it... it's as if they threw everything Castlevania related out the window just about..... and why the hell is the devil the last boss?! O.o
The music feels wrong to... and where are the candles you gain things from?!
Granted i like the main character, at least he's a belmont... but.. then he BECOMES dracula?! *face palms*
So yeah... i mean.. i want to be excited.... i'm just not... but i would love to be wrong, i would love to be blown away even!
I hope i am wrong, and i look forward to being blown away.
I think the music is what felt off the most to me... it just.. reeks of western development... all the japanese charm is gone... i feel like... you have to have a LITTLE of that japanese charm.. otherwise it feels nothing like a CV game.. and Lords of shadow.. so far... feels like a game that could have had any other title, and it would make more sense.... to me anyhow....
Sooooo you can see why i am worried about these games... and why i am hoping for the best...
I don't think I'm ever going to understand why the darn candles are so important to people, but by now I'm done trying.
To me, they're such a minor gameplay element that do little more than add a bit of activity to long hallways, and yet it feels like they're the lifeblood of the series to everyone else.
I don't think I'm ever going to understand why the darn candles are so important to people, but by now I'm done trying.
To me, they're such a minor gameplay element that do little more than add a bit of activity to long hallways, and yet it feels like they're the lifeblood of the series to everyone else.
If you take the question mark boxes out of Mario games would that hurt their appeal to the fanbase?
Candles for Castlevania, are what coins are for super mario and what the rings are for sonic. Can you imagine a main mario game, without coins or a sonic game without the rings? :rollseyes:
I don't think I'm ever going to understand why the darn candles are so important to people, but by now I'm done trying.It helps keep the pace of the original games alive. They're as iconic as the blocks in Mario games.
If both IGA and Cox are going to present this game I hope they are going to do a comedic duo act complete with eye poking and throwing pies.
The running gag would be that they both think of themselves as the producer of the Castlevania series while accusing the other of being a fraud.
Candles for Castlevania, are what coins are for super mario and what the rings are for sonic. Can you imagine a main mario game, without coins or a sonic game without the rings? :rollseyes:
If you take the question mark boxes out of Mario games would that hurt their appeal to the fanbase?
Technically coins are to Mario as hearts and cashbags are to Castlevania, but I see your point.
And yes I could.
IMO, all a Mario game needs is Mario to be considered a Mario game.
It helps keep the pace of the original games alive. They're as iconic as the blocks in Mario games.
Castlevania candles, on the other hand, come in a variety of shapes and sizes, and, starting with Symphony of the Night, have been replaced in certain instances by non-candle objects, i.e. vases, pots, food, etc. Since Castlevania started becoming all about atmosphere, IGA's team would replaced candles with whatever enhanced the atmosphere, especially if candles didn't exactly make sense with the setup.You know, I never thought of it like that. You prove some very good points.
Hell, Simon's Quest even removed candles from huge parts of the game
Ultimately, my point is that seeing how Lords of Shadow used candles to enhance the parts of the game where they were appropriate, I don't see how shoehorning floating candles into nonsensical areas like the Classicvanias would be better.
See, I'd disagree.They could use other objects with the same purpose. Candles don't need to be candles, other objects would do (but in the castle, candles are essential IMO).
The question mark block has, much like the Mario series, not changed since its inception.
Castlevania candles, on the other hand, come in a variety of shapes and sizes, and, starting with Symphony of the Night, have been replaced in certain instances by non-candle objects, i.e. vases, pots, food, etc. Since Castlevania started becoming all about atmosphere, IGA's team would replaced candles with whatever enhanced the atmosphere, especially if candles didn't exactly make sense with the setup.
Hell, Simon's Quest even removed candles from huge parts of the game
Ultimately, my point is that seeing how Lords of Shadow used candles to enhance the parts of the game where they were appropriate, I don't see how shoehorning floating candles into nonsensical areas like the Classicvanias would be better.
Castlevania candles, on the other hand, come in a variety of shapes and sizes, and, starting with Symphony of the Night, have been replaced in certain instances by non-candle objects, i.e. vases, pots, food, etc. Since Castlevania started becoming all about atmosphere, IGA's team would replaced candles with whatever enhanced the atmosphere, especially if candles didn't exactly make sense with the setup.
They could use other objects with the same purpose. Candles don't need to be candles, other objects would do (but in the castle, candles are essential IMO).
But it's not something we'll see with the western development taking control of Castlevania and trying to transform it into an EPIC...
guys CV:HOF is a CO-OP game confirmed by eurogamer ... i gave up 2d castlevanias , los for the life ...
guys CV:HOF is a CO-OP game confirmed by eurogamer ... i gave up 2d castlevanias , los for the life ...
They do. Have you actually played LoS?Yes?
hey guys remember this
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Yes?
What the heck is up with Johnathan's hair on that cover?
"a Nintendo DS masterpiece in the making!"
Back then everyone, like now, was super-duper excited for it to come out with all the rumors & leaks.
deja-vu perhaps?
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow Walkthrough - Part 28-1 Castle Hall (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMzSJ0rdSfI#ws)Did you noticed I never said the castle was the problem? Also, destrutible objects are really different from the what candles did in CV. ALL of them needed to drop something (hearts or not), that way they would be part of the design. Outside the castle, they could use rock piles, impaled bodies or even rustic candles hanging in trees (of course, if the game had darker places outside the castle, like more darker forests).
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Back then everyone, like now, was super-duper excited for it to come out with all the rumors & leaks."Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
deja-vu perhaps?
"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
That would be quite awful. Right now MoF sounds 100x more interesting than all of the DS Castlevanias combined.
"a Nintendo DS masterpiece in the making!"
Back then everyone, like now, was super-duper excited for it to come out with all the rumors & leaks.
deja-vu perhaps?
Having a sidescroller with an actual combat system might lead to more interesting gameplay...so there's that.
Doesn't a combat system slowly translate into a fighter/brawler? I mean, not having a combat system never hurt the freewheeling action and challenge of earlier 2D Castlevania games.
"Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it."
That would be quite awful. Right now MoF sounds 100x more interesting than all of the DS Castlevanias combined.
Quite true.
Trevor, Simon, and Alucard make for some serious bait...
But Cox's involvement makes me a little nervous about where this is going...
From what we know it's retaining the basic castlevania formula but with an added combat system. Sounds win win to me. You have more moves for some fun gameplay while keeping all the traditional ideas too. I don't see a flaw in that concept, at least on paper.
OK. Just so long as it's balanced within the context of the levels. Combat systems sometimes mean flatter "hallway-style" levels, with an emphasis on beating things up versus traversing structural obstructions. What do you make of the puzzle system, though. Did you read my edit: By the way, from the MTV article, it sounds like the 3DS cameras will be used in "puzzles." Makes me wonder about the game's "flow."
This one reminds me the touch screen function from DoS and i can tell you that i hated, so if the new puzzle system disturbs the flow of the game, then i will be very disappointed......
Although I thoroughly despised the Magic Seals, LoS takes the Golden Trophy for "puzzles that disturbed the flow of the game." Another cause for concern...I loved the puzzles in LoS, to be perfectly honest. Vampire Chess was a really fun mini game.
Did you noticed I never said the castle was the problem? Also, destrutible objects are really different from the what candles did in CV. ALL of them needed to drop something (hearts or not), that way they would be part of the design. Outside the castle, they could use rock piles, impaled bodies or even rustic candles hanging in trees (of course, if the game had darker places outside the castle, like more darker forests).
Yep also she's the main composer to it and the soundtracks are nothing to Castlevania music
I wouldn't mind seeing a father and son tag team with Trevor and Simon involved. I hope they look and are tough SOB's.Simon sounds like he's a hot headed barbarian with a manly beard, and Trevor is a warrior donning the Order's armor with a crazy looking shoulder piece and ragged cloak over him. They sound pretty manly and very much like the original Belmonts to me.
I disagree wholeheartedly. There were plenty of tracks she did that had a lot of Castlevania feel to them. She just counterbalanced them with some other stuff that was jazzy and upbeat. And, she only did a majority of the work on the soundtrack. Vincent Diamante did parts too, and his were jazz-based as well.
I did a review of the soundtrack, actually. Check it out (http://www.originalsoundversion.com/candy-for-the-skull-skullgirls-ost-review/) and see what I mean. Yamane has a distinct style of music that you can still hear even in non-Castlevania games.
Honestly, Cox and Arajou need to look at what Yamane did with Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness, to get a good feel of how moody, ambient Castlevania music can be used effectively to be both background noise AND memorable at the same time, and how to apply that to their games for the future. (including LoS2 and Mirror)
I want to punch Alucard in the face if he is a villain/antihero, hell I just want to punch him regardless. :P
I think Alucard will serve more as a mentor/supporting character if he's not playable.In the original Timeline, Dracula was already a vampire when he had Alucard, right?
What I want to know is how Alucard is even in this timeline, Alucard is the literal son of Dracula in lore. Did Gabula get with someone else? I can see Trevor being born prior to LoS, though. That would also make the Belmonts bastard children of the Cronqvists.
Simon sounds like he's a hot headed barbarian with a manly beard, and Trevor is a warrior donning the Order's armor with a crazy looking shoulder piece and ragged cloak over him. They sound pretty manly and very much like the original Belmonts to me.
let him awake from his loong slumber so we can aaalll punch him together
In the original Timeline, Dracula was already a vampire when he had Alucard, right?
Hell ya!!! But in a more serious sense I would like to fight him in a new cv game even if it was just a training exercise.
Also I think a nice easter egg would be that the songs that will be in the game can be coverted into a 8-bit or 16-bit music mode. Come on who does not want to hear a 8-bit Belmont's theme? I know I do :)
I wouldn't mind seeing a father and son tag team with Trevor and Simon involved. I hope they look and are tough SOB's.
I love Simon and Trevor but both of them in one game seems redundant.I didn't expect two Belmonts in one game, I figured Simon would be in the console sequel. I'm wondering what gameplay differences they'll both have.
I didn't expect two Belmonts in one game, I figured Simon would be in the console sequel. I'm wondering what gameplay differences they'll both have.
I want to punch Alucard in the face if he is a villain/antihero, hell I just want to punch him regardless. :P
Since there are way too many pages here to read through, where did his info of Simon and Trevor and what they look like come from? Also are there any leaked pictures yet?
Yeah. I'd prefer Trevor in the first game and Simon in the second. And I can't say that I'm happy about the rumor of them being father and son. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Oh, yeah! I love Alucard but I want to see him get his ass handed to him by Trevor, or any Belmont for that matter.
Remember, this is a reboot. Think of them as new Belmonts with names from characters we knew of in past games. Besides, didn't some parody games by Konami run with the idea that there were three Simon Belmonts, using it as a name passed down from the family? I do recall maybe in the Wai Wai World games that it had Simon Belmont III/the Third as the Belmont of the game.
I know. But just because it's a reboot doesn't mean they have to change EVERYTHING.
either Trevor is gonna be in his late 40s or 50s for Simon to be grown up "with a beard"
or Trevor will be way younger & Simon will be a teenager
and which 1 will wield the Vampire Killer
and which 1 will wield the Vampire KillerThe "Vampire Killer" doesn't exist anymore. Rinaldo probably made new whips for both of them.
Moreover, I'm aware of this being a reboot but isn't Trevor the Grandfather of Simon or something of the sort. Although I don't mind if he's the father as long as he's a Belmont.
The "Vampire Killer" doesn't exist anymore. Rinaldo probably made them both new whips.
I hope they don't make Trevor die for Simon to inherit the Vampire Killer. That would suck. And man, I so wish I caught that Trevor pic.
Moreover, I'm aware of this being a reboot but isn't Trevor the Grandfather of Simon or something of the sort. Although I don't mind if he's the father as long as he's a Belmont.
you right you right. so how long it'll be before you sell your copy? :PI'll play it, beat it, and then sell it if I really don't end up liking it.
I'll play it, beat it, and then sell it if I really don't end up liking it.
If they have Grant and Sypha I hope they go for more original designs and not make them turnout like the Judgment ones(mostly Grants, I didn't mind Sypha's).
I disagree wholeheartedly. There were plenty of tracks she did that had a lot of Castlevania feel to them. She just counterbalanced them with some other stuff that was jazzy and upbeat. And, she only did a majority of the work on the soundtrack. Vincent Diamante did parts too, and his were jazz-based as well.
I did a review of the soundtrack, actually. Check it out (http://www.originalsoundversion.com/candy-for-the-skull-skullgirls-ost-review/) and see what I mean. Yamane has a distinct style of music that you can still hear even in non-Castlevania games.
Honestly, Cox and Arajou need to look at what Yamane did with Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness, to get a good feel of how moody, ambient Castlevania music can be used effectively to be both background noise AND memorable at the same time, and how to apply that to their games for the future. (including LoS2 and Mirror)
If they have Grant and Sypha I hope they go for more original designs and not make them turnout like the Judgment ones(mostly Grants, I didn't mind Sypha's).
I missed where it was said there were going to be screenshots. Where'd that info come from?
I missed where it was said there were going to be screenshots. Where'd that info come from?
You have to wonder if Obata was doing his damnedest to come up with the worst designs possible. I wonder if that game would have fared better if they used the original designs of each character.I personally think it would have done better with the original designs.
I personally think it would have done better with the original designs.
Obata's design on CVJ characters are just shitty.Just an universal Truth.
I am disturbed about the way you talk about the forum populace, and I don't think that what you're saying helps the situation at all.You've read this in wrong tone.
It's like "Don't mind these people, they are morons. But we tolerate them because we're higher beings. **adjusts monocle**".
Lol... that's ridiculous...
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Lol... that's ridiculous...That's why everyone hates me ;)
Now that you've mentioned it, almost everyone's rep seems to fluctuate here.Except Crisis, the man surpassed Jorge in popularity in /days/ :o you're on fire man.
Now that you've mentioned it, almost everyone's rep seems to fluctuate here.
it makes you think twice before saying the first flamebait thought that crosses your mind,or just the first unpopular opinion. That doesnt sound like it works, IMO.
or just the first unpopular opinion. That doesnt sound like it works, IMO.Touché.
You know guys, as an Admin, I can see who votes up on who's post.Hahah I think no one is :P
And I see that someone's taken a liking to Ahasverus, voting up anything he posts, going way back... quite a bit.
Just sayin'. It's not like I'm blind, here.
OnTopic: The 4chan LoS2-MoF thread is dead/deleted. I have problem with standing a long time in that webpage so if anyone could take a watch at it once or twice in search for information it would be very appreciated
You know guys, as an Admin, I can see who votes up on who's post.
And I see that someone's taken a liking to Ahasverus, voting up anything he posts, going way back... quite a bit.
Just sayin'. It's not like I'm blind, here.
EDIT- I have measures to prevent n00b accounts from doing that in place now.
Fun fact, the Stats page of the forum tells you who's voting the most.
Yeah holy crap 203 respect is a lot!And completely unfair. Jorge and I had a little chat and we hope everything is in order now, still, I wanna thank my fan(s) Hahahahah.
And completely unfair. Jorge and I had a little chat and we hope everything is in order now, still, I wanna thank my fan(s) Hahahahah.
Here's hoping I get that +203 in a legitmate way, someday :)
Lol. Weren't you at like -90 before the mix up?You'd be surprised by how many shady hands had been involved in my rep, good and bad :P
I'll admit to getting Ahasverus up to 0 rep last time it fluctuated, if just to spite all the "IGA post +1, Cox post -1" but holy crap, his current rep means someone just +1'd 276 posts.He had a negative rep for a reason.
You'd be surprised by how many shady hands had been involved in my rep, good and bad :P
People, this rating system could get helpful, or annoying, depending of you (us). Why not choose the pleasant way? ;)
He had a negative rep for a reason.
If the system isn't exploited like I've said before, I think it's a good system to measure respect. I'm an admin on another forum, we have a system like that (but we can't remove our votes).
You'd be surprised by how many shady hands had been involved in my rep, good and bad :P
People, this rating system could get helpful, or annoying, depending of you (us). Why not choose the pleasant way? ;)
Whhat is the pleasant way?With it not being a pop contest or "I don't like you so -1 for you!" But something like "Hey, this man added positively to de discussion (Even if I don't agree with him) +1 or "Man this is such a annoying trol/offensive post", so -1. That's my idea though.
Personally, I'm hoping for a IGA/MercurySteam collab that features a dual character system in the vein of Castlevania 3, starring a Belmont and Alucard. The game would be a 2.5D sidescroller, and would combine a solid (not necessarily robust) combat system with Classicvania level design and Metroidvania exploration.That's my whole wish-list too.
IMO, the art should be similar to Lords, and the music should be done by Araujo but with notes out of Yamane's book.
I hope a proper Death is introduced. I didn't like how LoS insinuated that Zobek is his equivalence.
Though I never understood why Death served Dracula. If he's really a primeval spirit, Dracula shouldn't have had any hold over him. Was this explained thoroughly in Lament? I never finished it.By the magic of an alchemic stone. Isn't it? (Not so fancy, I know)
Eh, I kind of like the new route they're taking with Death, but I can definitely see where it would be lacking.
Though I never understood why Death served Dracula. If he's really a primeval spirit, Dracula shouldn't have had any hold over him. Was this explained thoroughly in Lament? I never finished it.
By the magic of an alchemic stone. Isn't it? (Not so fancy, I know)
So he's just enslaved?
Makes Zobek sound more powerful, to be honest >.>
Meh...I'd rather Death be the actual Grim Reaper..
Agreed, though I'm not sure how he'd fit in now that Satan has shown up.
He'd be the soul collector.
If Zobek is truly Death's "replacement" in the Lords of Shadow universe, Mr Dracul apparently goes without his primary ally for several hundred years...
So he's just enslaved?
Makes Zobek sound more powerful, to be honest >.>
With it not being a pop contest or "I don't like you so -1 for you!" But something like "Hey, this man added positively to de discussion (Even if I don't agree with him) +1 or "Man this is such a annoying trol/offensive post", so -1. That's my idea though.
That's my whole wish-list too.
Add stages based on CVIII and we have a deal (Expecially the falling rocks stage, it just can't be missed)
So, now that the two are no longer allies, would he be on Satan's side, or Dracula's?
Yeah they never really explain WHY Death is bound to some magical macguffin like the crimson stone, but most other CV games seem to count Death as Dracula's confidante and friend. His ONLY friend.
If I recall, it's more based around the concept of Japanese death Gods that the idea arose that he isnt the grim reaper, but just "a" Death God. Or just some powerful necromancer much like Zobek.
of course I dont think the games themselves ever really went there.
I actually find it interesting that they can be friends, given how their connection works. Im guessing that simply after so long a time of being together they simply bonded. But now, if someone else theoretically acquired the stone, would that mean Death would betray and abandon Dracula?
I hope the game is difficult as fuck.
According to games like HoD it seems like Death really cares about Dracula.
Well, in the new game Zobek will walk in and a fireball will hit him in the face and after a bit he'll reveal he's a skeleton. He'll then turn to the camera and wink.
Yeah they never really explain WHY Death is bound to some magical macguffin like the crimson stone, but most other CV games seem to count Death as Dracula's confidante and friend. His ONLY friend.
If I recall, it's more based around the concept of Japanese death Gods that the idea arose that he isnt the grim reaper, but just "a" Death God. Or just some powerful necromancer much like Zobek.
of course I dont think the games themselves ever really went there.
I actually find it interesting that they can be friends, given how their connection works. Im guessing that simply after so long a time of being together they simply bonded. But now, if someone else theoretically acquired the stone, would that mean Death would betray and abandon Dracula?
How can a skeleton wink? ;DMaybe he has flaming balls that can shapeshift for expressions in his eye sockets? :-X
Alex Shepherd is a character from Silent Hill apparently. (http://silenthill.wikia.com/wiki/Alex_Shepherd)
I have a bad feeling Lords of shadows 2 being on all those systems is a lie.
I want it to be true but....i'm having major doubts.
Considering LoS1 was never released for the Wii, I think LoS2 would have a much harder time selling on the Wii-U. Nintendo doesn't exactly have a great track record when it comes to mature content developed by western game studios --but, who knows...I think it would be benefical to the game if it was released as a WiiU launch title, being it the only action title at launch (If I'm not mistaken, Arkham City and Darksiders come at a later date). Publisher always say that there's a biggest possibility to sell new IP's early in the gen and establish them (See, Assassins Creed) because people, well, have less /choice/.
Considering LoS1 was never released for the Wii, I think LoS2 would have a much harder time selling on the Wii-U. Nintendo doesn't exactly have a great track record when it comes to mature content developed by western game studios --but, who knows...
As for the Vita --well that's even harder to speculate... Hideo Kojima seemed really excited about transfarring though.
Considering LoS1 was never released for the Wii, I think LoS2 would have a much harder time selling on the Wii-U. Nintendo doesn't exactly have a great track record when it comes to mature content developed by western game studios --but, who knows...
As for the Vita --well that's even harder to speculate... Hideo Kojima seemed really excited about transfarring though.
No, Nintendo really doesn't, but I get the impression they're trying to change that with the Wii U, what with Darksiders, Arkham Asylum, and Assassin's Creed 3.
So....they have started learning their lesson at nintendo?
Lol, didn't somebody suggest something with the word Dragon as the title for LoS2?
If Konami already registered something with "lordsofshadow2" in it, does that mean that the game will be called that? I always thought that it would have a unique subtitle. I'm actually a liiiiittle disappointed here. What's next? LoS 3, 4, 5 and 6?No thanks that'll be lame.
Well well. Time will tell.
If Nintendo learned there lesson they wouldn't have just decided to make a system on par with ps3 and xbox360.
In a year the next systems will be out and once again nintendo will be out of date. I guess WiiU can live off of old ports though during that period of time.
http://www.thedragonreturns.com/ (http://www.thedragonreturns.com/)It begins.
Shit just got realI can't tell if there are dragons flying around or that's the new Dracula's castle.
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It begins.Yeah, it start 31/5 i can't wait ;D
It begins.
Shit just got real
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lol since apparently quite a few missed my last post. CHECK THE SOURCE CODE THERE IS SOME COOL STUFF.
<meta property="og:description" content="Dare you face the evil darkness? It is written that the creatures behind that door will return very soon to claim the souls of your loved ones, and send you straight to hell! Be aware!"/>
<meta property="og:locale" content="en_US"/>
Watch it turn out to be game staring Sisqo: The return of the Dragon!.
I don't see any present day happenings in that artwork either. Maybe MoF is a direct follow up to The Dragon Returns instead of a prequel happening many centuries prior to it.
Oooh, Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 I believe. RT @Konami: The Dragon Returns on 5.31.12 http://thedragonreturns.com (http://thedragonreturns.com)
This got retweeted by Cox. I guess that means we're dealing with LoS 2 in case somebody has any doubt.Should someone make a new thread then?
Something I noticed, there's no snow or ice all over the castle and it looks bigger than before.
Something I noticed, there's no snow or ice all over the castle and it looks bigger than before.
Should someone make a new thread then?Thread created http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,4965.0.html (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,4965.0.html) :)
Shit just got real
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http://www.thedragonreturns.com/ (http://www.thedragonreturns.com/)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8010%2F7262606088_1cd536fdca_b.jpg&hash=eb85eed406f014dd0ea52563df6ddb0c)
LOL your body?? what's wrong?
yea this is good news but sheesh, calm down everyone
...You know I just had a very odd thought... You know this talk about the Belmont thing for LoS? What if it isn't in fact a son, but in reality...Gabriel had a brother. ;p
Perhaps he means this..
S2010 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDq4URXOPlU#)
LOL your body?? what's wrong?
yea this is good news but sheesh, calm down everyone
Is anyone gonna complain now that it's not dark enough?......coughs..Yep, let's judge the entire game based in one artwork.
Anyways, does this confirm all the rumors? I hope it's coming out for everything!
Holy crap you guys.
TWO Castlevanias in one E3.
Pinch me.
Holy crap you guys.
TWO Castlevanias in one E3.
Pinch me.
Welcome back to 2008! :3What happened in 2008?
What happened in 2008?
We had two Castlevania games at E3. And in 2003.This is actually the first E3 where I've paid attention to Castlevania. I didn't get into the series until ReBirth was about to come out.
This is actually the first E3 where I've paid attention to Castlevania. I didn't get into the series until ReBirth was about to come out.
My first Castlevania was Dracula X (SNES).I have a big love/hate relationship with that game. Poorly designed, but it's something of a novelty. When given the chance I can't help but still want to play it despite how ridiculously challenging and broken it is.
Been playing since NES Castlevania...Me too... oh i'm so old :'(
I have friend with Koji Igarashi (IGA) added on Facebook. I don't know if you can view this page: https://www.facebook.com/koji.igarashi1/posts/420267781341110 (https://www.facebook.com/koji.igarashi1/posts/420267781341110)
But someone has asked IGA if he is going to E3 this year. He responsed just one minute ago and he says he's not attending. The original feed:
question: 今年のE3に出席されるかどうか教えていただけますでしょうか？
answer: 今年のE3に行く予定はありません。
So 3DS Castlevania is from Mercury Steam I believe.
Maybe someone completely unknown is producing Mirror of Fate? Cause I'm still not 100% convinced that MS is behind this game. But maybe they are. Oooh, I need to know more NOW before my head explodes.Kojima? Well, he has experience with with handheld games, that would surprise me, like Paul said.
Kojima? Well, he has experience with with handheld games, that would surprise me, like Paul said.
Confirmed...
Koji Igarashi "今年のE3に行く予定はありません。"
Is not scheduled to go to this year's E3. (Translated by Bing)
So, both games are in the Lords of Shadow universe after all? Which source ever claimed IGA's involvement? Their word should now be considered suspect... :-X
Maybe someone completely unknown is producing Mirror of Fate? Cause I'm still not 100% convinced that MS is behind this game. But maybe they are. Oooh, I need to know more NOW before my head explodes.
Toru HagiharaHe's not at Konami, is he?
Maybe we'll see the birth of a new IGA.
Nooooooooooooooo!!!! ;)
Though I heard about a young woman working for Capcom developing Dragon's Dogma, who was bullied by her older colleagues to the point where she tried to take her own life. :-\
Are you kidding me!? That's horrible! Where did you hear that? I fucking hate bullies.
http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide (http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide)Of course it doesn't stop. Sadly, every one of my jobs I've every had always had some asswipe that tries to start shit with people. The saying goes, "Old fools were once young fools.". Sometimes people just don't change.
I hate it too. And it's so sad that for some it doesn't even stop when they grow up.
http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide (http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide)
I hate it too. And it's so sad that for some it doesn't even stop when they grow up.
http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide (http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide)
I hate it too. And it's so sad that for some it doesn't even stop when they grow up.
http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide (http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide)
I hate it too. And it's so sad that for some it doesn't even stop when they grow up.
I didn't see much of Super Castlevania IV in Lords of Shadow besides the whip swinging and gloomy/dreary environments. He boasted that IV was his bible for LoS's development.
http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide (http://kotaku.com/5911353/japanese-game-developer-apparently-harassed-so-much-she-attempted-suicide)
I hate it too. And it's so sad that for some it doesn't even stop when they grow up.
Crossing those fingers.I think I'll break my fingers doing that.
Those artworks are... BADASS. Can't wait!!
The ones from The Dragon Returns. I'm a bit late.
What artworks? Maybe you posted to the wrong thread?
The ones from The Dragon Returns. I'm a bit late.
Then you should post it on it's thread here:http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,4965.0.html (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,4965.0.html)Only saw it now. SOrry for the inconvenience.
My Nintendo Power should be coming in the mail any day now. I wonder if it'll have a story on this game?
Anyway, I'm hoping it doesn't follow IGA's games and tries a new mixture--just so long as said mixture is true to Castlevania.
Well, the previous issue of Nintendo Power promised "exciting new revelations in the June issue, including a cover story for the generations. Don't miss it or you'll rue your fate, comrade." Included with this was a red splotch that looked like a country outline, maybe Russia (hence the "comrade"?) IDK. It didn't immediately strike me as Castlevania; I thought it might be a new Rush 'n' Attack by Konami maybe (given that there wasn't any CV rumors at the time). Maybe the abstract red splotch is a Castlevania character, though. *shrugs.* On the other hand, the idea of "generations" and "fate" might connect to the 3DS Castlevania rumors. It should come within the next few days. Certainly before June 1st, and likely before May 31st.
All they hype has died down due to lack of news and therefore we are all just quietly awaiting something.
I guess you could say this is the crash after the sugar rush.
...So...wasn't there supposed to be pictures up friday on a european site?..
Were we tricked by jerks on 4chan?
It's interesting how the smallest taste, gets us all buzzing. A couple weeks from now we'll be a bunch of slobbering drunks --downright intoxicated-- on all the Castlevania news that comes out of E3. I hope the hangover is merciful...
It's an Order of Ecclesia remake that uses Shanoa's Judgment design.Shanoa's Judgement design wasn't bad at all.
Shanoa's Judgement design wasn't bad at all.
I like women with long hair, which means I liked Shanoa's ecclesia design more. 8)
I thought the nun thing was an interesting interpretation.Probably. They gave Alucard long hair but hid it in his clothing. They didn't even bother trying to animate a cloak in-game either.
Wasnt it done like that because they didnt want to do long hair or something?
Probably. They gave Alucard long hair but hid it in his clothing. They didn't even bother trying to animate a cloak in-game either.Isn't that the main reason, in a lot of HD games, they've shortened hair considerably in general? Long hair is a bitch to animate, which is sad, because it seems like the more shortened haired characters have become a trend solely based on the fact that nobody wants the task of animating long hair. If characters have long hair(girls, in particular), they always tie it up into ponytails, buns or pig-tails. Pretty sad. I hope, one day, animating hair becomes easier, so character design isn't as limited anymore.
Yeah, but a good example of good cloth animation has already been in Castlevania. Lament of Innocence has a wonderfully animated coattail, that probably didn't use that much physics. Leon on a whole is probably the best animated 3D character in Castlevania in my opinion. There are a lot of subtleties going on with his basic movements, besides the dumb vaulting off of poles.
he's my baby
I don't think there have have been sprites in the series as detailed as Alucard, ever. They really stripped everything down and made it more formulaic in later entries. Alucard's sprites were amazingly fluid, each frame breathed so well, and it showed.
On the subject of Shanoa, it would be cool to see her turn up in this new canon, I really liked her.
one word: joseph's cloak
Soma's sprites both GBA and DS were pretty well animated IMO. And I would hope so considering his movements are based on Alucard's. His DS sprite in particular is pretty smoothly animated.
-alucard IS simon, and you use some mirror shift back and forth between them in the future and pastThe title "Mirror(s?) of Fate" makes so much fucking sense now.
-closest game it compares to gameplay wise is rebirthThis makes me extremely happy if it's true.
The title "Mirror(s?) of Fate" makes so fucking sense now.
Main character is Alucard but you use the Mirror to alternate between past and present. In the fucked up future you play as Alucard, and in the slightly less fucked up past you play as Simon. There are some obstacles you can't get past in one timeline so you have to go back and forth.
Narrative is that these two are "connected by a thread of fate" or whatever but it's pretty obvious Simon is Alucard. First they show Simon looking into the Mirror with Alucard on the other side of it, but then they flash "Dracula" and then use the same Mirror to show "Alucard" before introducing his character portrait.
Apparently it bridges LOS and the new console game.
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More along the lines of the 2.5D Rondo of Blood remake than Symphony of the Night, if you can stomach that. I'm not usually a fan of that art style, but surprisingly it works.
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Definite Classicvania but with some small LOS-like touches. Not as bad as it sounds, though.
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It's virtually identical to LOS's art style but has a sort of painterly filter over everything to give it a parchment-y look, if that makes sense? So more cartoony, but definitely not anime.
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Honestly felt more to me like ReBirth than any other recent Castlevania game.
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Well, it's kind of non-linear in that there are multiple paths through levels and secrets, which apparently you'll be able to go back and get whenever you want. Taking different combinations of paths through levels apparently results in several different outcomes.
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It looks like LOS on a 2D plane with a weird combination Street Fighter 4-meets-Valkyria Chronicles filter over it, so I think you'll probably be disappointed. Definitely not sprite-based, unfortunately.
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Closest thing to GOW was a QTE on a mini-boss, but only after taking it down in a traditional Castlevania way (whipping the hell out of it and throwing axes).
The other gameplay touch it has similar to LOS is some occasional Uncharted-like climbing on vertical structures, but the 3D effect looks really neat when you climb around a curve on a cliff for example to reveal a new vista. But whenever you get to the top it re-orients itself and goes back to 2D. In the demo they only ever used that to establish new areas and connect levels, and when it happens there's even a map overlay in the style of the early games, showing where you're move on to.
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It wasn't that bad. Only happened once when the boss had low health, and it was the same circle-timing thing from LOS. You ripped off the monster's horns then mask so you could carry on whipping it until it's dead. Felt more like a stage in a Zelda boss fight than GOW.
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Simon and Alucard both use whips, but Simon's is traditional and Alucard's is fiery and shoots fireballs when "charged."
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Yep, all the classics and they behave the exact same way as well.
(in response to question about classic subweapons (axe, knife, cross boomerang, hourglass etc))
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No, unfortunately each sub-weapon has its own inventory and health is only regained at shrines. I miss hearts and those so-called "pork chops."
gonna copy/paste the posts from the thread b4 it dies and i go to bed:
Simon and Alucard both use whips, but Simon's is traditional and Alucard's is fiery and shoots fireballs when "charged."And now it makes sense why he thought it was originally Trevor without any textures on.
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ya i was gonna say. even the naming stuff makes sense now.
gabriel = dracul (dragon)
simon = dracula (son of the dragon)
mirrored, thats "alucard." maybe thats why they went with the simon/alucard/mirror theme for this game.
so maybe in one of those games (MOF or LOS2) he is simon and has to fight dracul the finally faces him has a luke/vader moment and finds out hes his son, lol. and he hates that so he he reverses his name and goes by alucard in protest or something.
This is how I kind of feel right now.
The Crying Indian Commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4ozVMxzNAA#)
My least favorite character is my favorite character.
Which one is your favorite and least favorite?
I wish we could see who is who on 4chan. Somebody said the recent rumors are lies but doesn't explain why.
This is purely wishful thinking but I would be very glad if this 3DS would be set in the IGA canon after all. Although what we currently know of the rumored plot would seemingly make that impossible, it could still fit. Perhaps the game takes place in two different time periods: sometime after Simon's Quest and sometime after Symphony of the Night. Not sure how Simon and Alucard would be connencted by fate but it could still work I guess.LOL, hearing the recent rumors, I'd love it to take place in the classic canon, where Simon and Alucard are, and will always be, SEPARATE characters!
It's just nonsense but I would have been interesting. :-X
perhaps Mercury Steam could come up with some conceit that allows them two dip in and out of the series' classic identity and its rebooted modern one. The ending mentions the acolytes of Satan preparing for his return so they're bound to get up to some mischief; some reality altering or dimension melding could be just the ticket.I wonder if there is a reason why he decided to tweet the link for this particular article, I suppose he could just be helping the speculation & rumours to spread.
This new canon's "rules" is fucking retarded. YEH LETS FUSE COMPLETELY OPPOSITE CHARACTERS TOGETHER FOR NO REAL REASON. Paul W. S. Anderson should be jealous. Gimme a break, sounds like some 10 year old fanfiction bullshitChanges in the new timeline like this shouldn't be justified. New writers do what they want (it is their full right and happily they not obliged to please some fans), and in the end the final result depends purely on the execution of the plot.
sounds like some 10 year old fanfiction bullshit
If you can't accept such things it more like that you can't make yourself think outside of box. It is understandanble, but there is no need to make statements like that.
You're overreacting.
At the very worst, it will be some mediocre "What a tweest" thing. Right now we're all going on absolute hearsay and are already judging and have preconceived notions about the game.
At the very best, it could be awesome. Why not focus on that possibility, instead of shooting it down right away? I don't think it's fair.
It's fair to be cautiously optimistic, and it's also fair to be stoked, and it's also fair to be concerned, but shooting the damn thing down as soon as you hear something you might not like is what internet children do. Haven't we grown up yet? This happens every time any game comes out.
This is the reason developers don't release any news about products until they're already out: because people cry and bitchrage. I bet if we had a direct line to the developers people would be lining up demanding their needs to be met and scrapping whatever is they're working on. We're way too privileged.
Also, I can't understand the bitching on the game while it has not been announced yet. We only have rumors from (mostly) anonymous people and nothing official. Keep calm a few days and then you'll be able to bitch everything you want.
It's fair to be cautiously optimistic, and it's also fair to be stoked, and it's also fair to be concerned, but shooting the damn thing down as soon as you hear something you might not like is what internet children do. Haven't we grown up yet? This happens every time any game comes out.That is what precisely surprises me about Castlevania fanbase. There are many mature people around here, who should (at least in theory) understand that the world is not rolling around their desires and that sometimes there are possibilities beyond what you usually imagine. But some of them acting...well just as you have described.
God forgive me for wanting some lingering respect for continuity & certain plot elements.Then what is the meaning of the new timeline?
Why can't they just create new characters instead of bastardizing old ones?Because fanboys will cry that this is not Castlevania without Simon Belmont and Alucard.
The thing is, some ideas are just "bad ideas" period, and this IMO is a bad idea.There is no bad ideas, but bad execution of said ideas. Mostly.
Making 2 completely different characters the same just for whole "our universe is different!" type of message is stupid if you ask me.
Or if they HAVE to use the old characters at least they could do not now drastically revamp them beyond recognition. I understand they want to distinguish the 2 universe's heroes, but why not do something like give simon a new look,fighting style,or background?We don't even know how they look like (if all rumors are true).
Lol, I just love how if you voice your dislike for something than your opinion is belittled to mere "bitching" LOL. And hey, THIS IS A FORUM dude, which means that these types of discussions happen whether its rumor or confirmed.Because it is exactly how this complaints often comes of?
Because it is exactly how this complaints often comes of?
OK, I'll write your definition of the forum as "a place where people complain infinitely in annoying manner, sometimes without the reason".
So, according to rumors, no Trevor :'(
It was only going to be Trevor in name only so cheer up. :PI'd take ANYTHING :'( :'(
I know what I would do to people who came up with this.......Jesus...
I know what I would do to people who came up with this.......
The difference between a concern about a game, or one's disagreement of a proposed idea, and bitching/whining, is in the manner of the post being written.
Here's an easy example:
"I am not completely on board with this idea of Simon and Alucard being the same person. I will have to wait until further developments but as it stands, I am not fond of the idea."
Versus
"Simon and Alucard are the same person? It's the most laughably stupid idea ever and the franchise is ruined! RUINED, I SAY!"
It would be totally hilarious if ALL the rumors about the story was false, and in MoF, we wind up geting a totally NEW character altogether, like "Richard Belmont", and Simon, Trevor and Alucard don't even make appearances.That'd be hilarious! ;D
Dude...
So out of curiosity, how would you label my postWouldn't it be the same for both sides? Both sides bitch and moan about things and each other. You could either be civil or resort to outbursts. IMO, it's the same from both sides:
"The thing is, some ideas are just "bad ideas" period, and this IMO is a bad idea.
Making 2 completely different characters the same just for whole "our universe is different!" type of message is stupid if you ask me.
They did the same thing with making a belmont turn into Dracula and now this?
Do they honestly have to go to such leaps and bounds to completely alienate their new "castlevania universe" from the old one?
I see it as being no different than,
Making Batman Jokers long lost brother
or
Making Superman the Bastard son of Lex Luther"
Would it be labeled as "bitching and moaning" or me simply voicing my dislike for what was revealed in a civil manner?
I'm just trying to get his concept down since it seems like SOME (not all) people seems to think that anything that is negative towards Cox or his team's effort is mere "bitching" or you simply "hate change".
Really did not care to reply to the rest of your post since it would probably go completely over your head, but felt the need to reply to this one.Then why bother? It's not like I am in desperate need ni your personal opinion on the matter, since I am pretty well aware what it is and how you will express it.
So anything that is "negative" is automatically "bitching" to you is that right?No.
Would it be alright for me to belittle your opinion to mere "asskissery" simply because I view it that way?View my opinion as you wish.
These rumors are retarded. I cannot stand to watch the bastardization of the Castlevania series. From Lords, Castlevania is no moreYeah, yeah, whatever...
I know what I would do to people who came up with this.......So you are readily admit yourself as one of those idiots, like the ones who send death threats to developers over fictional characters? This is sad, if fanbase have that kind of fans.
I'd take ANYTHING :'( :'(
Hahahah.
Lighten up guys, it's just a video game. ;)From the first rumors, it kinda sounded like my proposed idea for a classic/castletroid fusion I listed some time ago. The idea to focus on stage progression, but give the freedom to backtrack and find alternate paths. If it DOES turn out that way, I'll where my smile for a week!! ;)
If the rumors are true, I hope this game is at least 5 times as long as ReBirth (which someone is already comparing this game to.). I want more alternate paths than Dracula's Curse and Rondo of Blood combined. In fact, I still want this game to be designed a bit like SUPER MARIO WORLD! Hidden exits and secrets pathways that lead you to completely different parts of the castle, preferably on an overworld map. How about that?
I'm still going to miss pork chops in the walls. :(
So you are readily admit yourself as one of those idiots, like the ones who send death threats to developers over fictional characters? This is sad, if fanbase have that kind of fans.
It would be fun and easter eggish if you at some point could find a pork chop in a wall, but your character says something like: "Who put that here? There's no way in hell I'm gonna eat that".Or if they teased it at the end of the reveal trailer.
Making Superman the Bastard son of Lex LutherEver read Superman Red Son?
I think the idea of Simon and Alucard being the same character is...sort of neat.
It can't be like a Classicvania without the walk.