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Title: Regarding Ericard
Post by: Zuljaras on March 13, 2015, 07:29:40 AM
Is there something we can do? I stalked him to his youtube videos and left some comments under "his" Castlevania games. He still claims that the amazing Dracula sprite does not belong to anyone and he CAN'T remove it from his game.

In the past I have never thought that someone could just take something like a sprite,model etc. and call it his own. But when I saw that "person" has no regrets and acts like an idiot claiming that he did a great job just makes me angry :D

PS: Also his attempts at Castlevania fan games suxx!!! :D
Title: Re: The stealing idiot called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on March 13, 2015, 09:42:53 AM
Reminds me of the kind of shit donlicht used to pull.
Title: Re: The stealing idiot called Ericard :)
Post by: theplottwist on March 13, 2015, 10:08:47 AM
I'm doing the most I can do at the moment, which is badmouthing this dude wherever I go and he's present. I moderate a Castlevania page, too, and there he won't be making any success so soon.

He actually tried to be funny through PM with me, acting as if nothing had happened, and implying that I was angry "at my work". Dude's mental.

I can see him coming in online now and then and I keep an eye about what he's reading so if he tries something funny claiming to "not know the source", I'll have screencaped the shit out of him.
Title: Re: The stealing idiot called Ericard :)
Post by: piscesdreams on March 13, 2015, 10:12:00 AM
Brilliant!

I actually wondered if Ericard and Donlicht were the same person because it was such blatant disregard.
Title: Re: The stealing idiot called Ericard :)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on March 13, 2015, 01:25:07 PM
Just so you know, on the Castlevania Facebook Group, an user by the name of "Ryu Hayabusa" has been uploading videos of the "Castlevania LCD Chronicles", based on OpenBOR.
He's been extensively posting stuff there, so if you want to chime in on Facebook, look for the open group "Castlevania".

The FB page for Ryu Hayabusa links to the game, which links to Ericard Productions:
clicky (http://ericard.webs.com/)

However, I'm going to edit the thread title, for harmony'e sake.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: darkmanx_429 on March 13, 2015, 02:10:11 PM
Commodus Gives a Thumbs Down (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYNUOkqzcVA#ws)

Seriously though... I am not a mod, but why is Elicard not being banned or punished regarding this?

I think there should be some kind of statement made about this as it may discourage others from the doing this in the future.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on March 13, 2015, 02:55:50 PM
1. This forum's jurisdiction does not extend outside of this forum. Meaning, the actions an user takes against another outside of this forum are not for us to moderate.
2. Technically, there are no rules specifically stating that plagiarism outside of the forum is an offense within the forum.
3. Even if there were such a rule, banning would not solve the problem of the work being plagiarized.  I would think it would be a slap in the wrist at best.  After all, the user is banned, but they can still publish the work elsewhere, with impunity.
Title: Re: The stealing idiot called Ericard :)
Post by: theplottwist on March 13, 2015, 03:49:55 PM
Just so you know, on the Castlevania Facebook Group, an user by the name of "Ryu Hayabusa" has been uploading videos of the "Castlevania LCD Chronicles", based on OpenBOR.
He's been extensively posting stuff there, so if you want to chime in on Facebook, look for the open group "Castlevania".

The FB page for Ryu Hayabusa links to the game, which links to Ericard Productions:
clicky (http://ericard.webs.com/)


Sweet sweet lead...
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Gunlord on March 13, 2015, 04:55:18 PM
Yeah, what Jorge said. I hate plagiarism with a passion and Ericard makes me very suspicious, but we just don't have the authority to stop him from plagiarising stuff outside the CVD, and we can't punish him on here for stuff he does elsewhere. But rest assured we'll take action if he tries to do anything sketchy to anyone here or otherwise cause trouble.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on March 13, 2015, 07:38:21 PM
Left him this on his page's guestbook.

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What part of plottwist saying "you stole my sprite and used it without my permission and I DO NOT want it used, and want it removed from the game" didn't you get? Not knowing his name is one thing (which is also bullshit, it takes ten seconds to check the page the sprite was posted on), but he made it abundantly clear he didn't want his work in your project, and yet you're still using it.

So you've jumped from haphazardous ignorance to straight-up theft of content. And you think this is okay, because why? And don't give me that crap about the game being "too far done" to remove the sprite; that's not a valid excuse, that's you being a lazy fuck to try and cover your ass for stealing someone's content.

Remove plottwist's Dracula sprite. This matter is not for you to decide, and the creator has vehemently demanded you remove it. At this point you're just deliberately being an asshole.

Otherwise, we're just gonna keep posting and repeating this until either you get the message or other people see what kind of person you are. What you're doing is wrong and your justifications for it are fucking pitiful.

Remove plottwist's sprite. He's denied you usage and repeatedly told you "no." Take the hint already.

Posting it here in case it gets canned, so I can just repost it as needed.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Chernabogue on March 14, 2015, 03:04:00 AM
OK, let me give you some legal insight on the situation. It's actually quite simple: either Ericard credits plot as the sprite's creator WITH plot's official authorization (don't think plot will allow him now), or Ericard has to remove the sprite from his game (which he could totally do ; saying he cannot is just bullshit).

If Ericard doesn't remove the sprite and keep using it without plot's authorization, plot can try different solutions. Clicky for more details (https://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/04/10/what-do-you-do-when-someone-steals-your-content/). Please note the Fair Use law won't apply here.

Anyway, I'm still studying Internet law, but am specialized in French IP law, which is different from the Common Law system. So take my answer with a grain of salt. ;)
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on March 14, 2015, 03:32:52 AM
Actually, seeing as the design is all original and the name Dracula isn't outright copyrighted, would the sprite not qualify as an IP? Sure it was made with Castlevania in mind, but if plot simply removes or otherwise alters those ties to the CV IP the sprite basically becomes his, if I'm interpreting the USCA and whatnot correctly.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Chernabogue on March 14, 2015, 04:09:04 AM
Actually, seeing as the design is all original and the name Dracula isn't outright copyrighted, would the sprite not qualify as an IP? Sure it was made with Castlevania in mind, but if plot simply removes or otherwise alters those ties to the CV IP the sprite basically becomes his, if I'm interpreting the USCA and whatnot correctly.
As long as plot created the sprite, he got all rights on it.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: theplottwist on March 16, 2015, 07:55:20 AM
Real fuckin' mature, Ericard.

Posting this screenshot as I dont know if the post is going to get deleted.
(click to show/hide)

Notice how Ericard refers to himself on third person now.

Ryu is Ericard. As soon as I posted the link, Ericard came online here.

If it does not get deleted, keep reading here:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2204577638/permalink/10152947840602639/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2204577638/permalink/10152947840602639/)

UPDATE: According to the moderator of the group, Ericard has tried selling the game to him, for 15 bucks. He tried selling copyrighted material that he didn't create. Also, Ryu is one of his many fake accounts.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: VladCT on March 16, 2015, 08:09:49 AM
...Ericard has tried selling the game to him, for 15 bucks.
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi3.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Foriginal%2F000%2F826%2F248%2F811.png&hash=89b1770dae7dd73bf823922c834278d6)
Copyrighted material aside, he seriously thinks his game is worth 15 bucks? Oh wow.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on March 16, 2015, 08:51:24 AM
What a twat.

Also, am I the only one laughing over him using one of those Flash waifu makers for his character portraits?
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: darkmanx_429 on March 16, 2015, 12:21:32 PM
Real fuckin' mature, Ericard.

Posting this screenshot as I dont know if the post is going to get deleted.
(click to show/hide)

Notice how Ericard refers to himself on third person now.

Ryu is Ericard. As soon as I posted the link, Ericard came online here.

If it does not get deleted, keep reading here:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2204577638/permalink/10152947840602639/ (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2204577638/permalink/10152947840602639/)

UPDATE: According to the moderator of the group, Ericard has tried selling the game to him, for 15 bucks. He tried selling copyrighted material that he didn't create. Also, Ryu is one of his many fake accounts.

This dude is a real piece of work.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Belmontoya on March 16, 2015, 02:16:44 PM
Someone needs to teach this tool a lesson.

We need a digital crime caped crusader.

Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: piscesdreams on March 16, 2015, 02:50:11 PM
Man, the bullshit with Ericard just keeps getting deeper.

I have found his Youtube channel and reported the video. Attached is a screencap with his user id.

He has posted it on the Antichapel forums (not sure if I should mention another forum or not).
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Koutei on March 16, 2015, 07:56:29 PM
It may also be necessary to give advice to these wiki.

http://castlevaniafan.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity (http://castlevaniafan.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity)
http://castlevaniafanon.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity (http://castlevaniafanon.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity)
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Chernabogue on March 18, 2015, 12:36:36 PM
It may also be necessary to give advice to these wiki.

http://castlevaniafan.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity (http://castlevaniafan.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity)
http://castlevaniafanon.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity (http://castlevaniafanon.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity)
I tried to do my best to remove the picture from pages, but as I'm not admin there, I cannot delete it. I left a message to Ericard.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Claimh Solais on March 23, 2015, 02:28:25 AM
I tried to do my best to remove the picture from pages, but as I'm not admin there, I cannot delete it. I left a message to Ericard.

He responded with what's in the attachment. Stay classy, Ericard.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: theplottwist on March 23, 2015, 09:32:40 AM
He responded with what's in the attachment. Stay classy, Ericard.

He wish it was junk ;D

I'll be posting this over the Castlevania group;

Also, Claimh Solais, he deleted this talk or not? I can't seem to find the link to it.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Chernabogue on March 23, 2015, 01:29:59 PM
He responded with what's in the attachment. Stay classy, Ericard.
Yes, I saw it. Pretty classy.  8)
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: piscesdreams on March 23, 2015, 03:46:00 PM
He is a most confusing individual. Everything he says is contradictory, moronic and self-serving. "I'M GONNA PUT THIS IN MY GAME, BECAUSE I DON'T NEED IT AND CAN'T REMOVE IT!"

I feel like every time he speaks I lose a year off of my life and get a little dumber.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on March 23, 2015, 03:53:17 PM
I'll bet you he's like twelve. This level of stupidity just screams "youngin."
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Bloo on March 23, 2015, 05:00:32 PM
I'll bet you he's like twelve. This level of stupidity just screams "youngin."

Don't make fun of twelve year olds. They can be very mature. This guy just seems like he has no concern for anybody else. Like the world revolves around him.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: X on March 23, 2015, 05:54:12 PM
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I feel like every time he speaks I lose a year off of my life and get a little dumber.

Hopefully not before you finalize your game  :'(

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"I'M GONNA PUT THIS IN MY GAME, BECAUSE I DON'T NEED IT AND CAN'T REMOVE IT!"

lol, wut?
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: piscesdreams on March 23, 2015, 06:06:53 PM
Hopefully not before you finalize your game  :'(

lol, wut?

LoL right? Still have a long way to go. :(

Seems like that's Ericard's mentality. A clusterfuck of wut.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on March 23, 2015, 10:50:36 PM
This saga is getting funnier.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on March 23, 2015, 11:18:43 PM
Don't make fun of twelve year olds. They can be very mature. This guy just seems like he has no concern for anybody else. Like the world revolves around him.

And I've met my share. Most of them don't really care about others' perspectives, and have varying degrees of mentalities that the world does revolve around them. It's not a question of insult, it's a question of emotional and social maturity, which many twelve-year-olds typically lack. It's not an insult to draw humor from babies who don't have object permanence yet, is it? Of course not, because it's simply how their minds work at that age. I don't say that all twelve-year-olds are total egotists, but there is usually still a very strong "self" aspect in how kids that young think. Thinking about self-reward of something without considering consequences, not caring or even acknowledging how things affect people other than themselves, etc.

Kinda like how you immediately took that statement as an insult and not considering what my frame of mind could have been when saying it. Funny how that stuff works, eh?

How many twelve-year-olds you know who are emotionally mature enough to handle something like the realities of marriage commitment or the concept of house ownership and mortgages, or even financial debt struggles?

Exactly.

Ericard's actions belie a mindset in which only he is to be worried about. He said himself he just didn't THINK to look for the owner of the sprite, or ask permission, simply because it was on Google (and therefore PD, right?). He's making alternate accounts to sidestep the confrontation he started and drag things out (sounds like he thinks dragging it out will make people forget or something, again something common in kids; ever hear a little kid explain how something broke?), as well as pretending the alts totally aren't him and speaking in third person. When confronted with the repercussions of his actions he immediately starts throwing insults and making shit excuses to try and absolve himself of blame.

So yeah, I say he's probably twelve or something because that's the kind of shit kids do. It's the kind of shit I did way back when, if my list of stupid shit I'd done is any indication, so I know what I'm looking for.

Quit getting defensive.


Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Ericard on March 26, 2015, 10:44:54 PM
Well I don't what the hell ya'll try to say, but I decided not to remove the sprite okay?!? No matter how many years you're going to say but the sprite must me in the game permanently, I will not credit to the author and I will not give him the damn face to the world, okay. over and out..
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on March 26, 2015, 11:22:16 PM
You're such a fuckin' tool, dude. Now you're deliberately stealing, admitting to it, and being a whiny cunt.

You do realize we're not stopping until you respect plot's wishes, right? Some of us actually care about crediting artists and look down on theft. Do as he says and remove what you've stolen and this will all go away. It's not rocket science...though to you the concept of due credit and general decency is foreign, so in your case it may very well be rocket science.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Gunlord on March 27, 2015, 02:50:06 AM
And I've met my share. Most of them don't really care about others' perspectives, and have varying degrees of mentalities that...

Dracula, I think Kokushibyo was *making fun* of Ericard, i.e Ericard is so dumb even 12 year olds are smarter and more mature than he is. XD
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Aelfwine on March 27, 2015, 03:47:10 AM
I know Ericard stole thePlotTwist's artwork but using this thread as a base for stalking and harassing him online seems like it might be bad form.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on March 27, 2015, 04:41:44 AM
Considering polite requests and firm demands to cease the use of the stolen materials have failed, he's touting it around on a page on Facebook, using almost a half-dozen known alts on that page, pretending each alt is a different person (all of whom conveniently agree with and defend him), calling out the page moderators and admins for continually demanding he stop using the stolen materials, becoming extremely defensive and harsh when said mods/admins are left with no choice but to use threats of page bans and content removal to try and get him to comply, parading the project around on various other sites including but not limited to the Chapel, Youtube, and his own personal page, and publicly and outright refusing to stop using stolen content and saying straight-up he will not credit or mention the original owner for its infringing use, and justifying such acts with clear-cut bullshit as "it can't be removed from the game" (hint, yeah it fucking can), I don't think we're being too aggressive here.

Hell, if I'm being honest, I don't think we're being aggressive enough. He's obviously not going to be swayed with reason (in fact he's made it abundantly clear he can't be reasoned with) or rationale discourse, and he has openly challenged the original owner of the stolen content over the matter. Personally, I wouldn't be against getting a whole troupe of people to follow him everywhere he posts the game and leave comments over what he's done and downvote the shit out of it all until he gets the damn memo and stops being a bastard. The project looked interesting enough to give a shot when first I saw it, but the actions and frankly infantile behavior of its creator has guaranteed I will not play it as long as he keeps this shit up; and I know for a fact I'm not the only person who feels this way.

So while I can understand the sentiment you're getting at of "two wrongs don't make a right," in some cases the only thing one can do is fight fire with fire. And if Ericard's continuous infringing and willful theft of an artistic work is anything to go by, that's the only option we have left if we want justice served. Obviously we can drop it and move on, but that's an even worse way to handle it as it basically tells Ericard this kind of behavior is tolerable and he can get away with it if he bitches and moans long enough. Sorry, I'm normally one to let bygones be bygones and move the fuck on with life, but this is an exception.

Ericard needs to have it bashed into his erroneously thick skull that this kind of shit isn't okay.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Aelfwine on March 27, 2015, 04:58:27 AM
But what you're proposing is basically bullying. As justified as you believe it is your harsher strategy so far has been about as successful as your attempts at polite requests.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on March 27, 2015, 06:01:40 AM
DDoS will Cure what ails ya.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on March 27, 2015, 06:02:29 AM
So you propose to just let him get off scot-free and probably do this to somebody else?

I didn't say it was a perfect answer

Jorge knows what's up.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: darkmanx_429 on March 27, 2015, 06:03:50 AM
Well I don't what the hell ya'll try to say, but I decided not to remove the sprite okay?!? No matter how many years you're going to say but the sprite must me in the game permanently, I will not credit to the author and I will not give him the damn face to the world, okay. over and out..

I don't think we're being too aggressive here.
Hell, if I'm being honest, I don't think we're being aggressive enough.

I totally agree and been saying this since the start of this debacle. The mods keep saying that they can't really regulate what he does outside of the forum which I understand, but he obviously took the sprite from one of our contests.

And the above post from him is a blatant disregard for any rules old or new from this forum. In any other forum he would be banned for this type of action.

He may still come on and steal people work, but at least he wouldn't do so in any official capacity.

I am not saying that a DDOS attack is ok, but it would serve him right.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on March 27, 2015, 06:16:01 AM
Our forum is the #1 search when it comes to Castlevania and anything social (Forum). Though the site is old, this Board is very much alive. The problem is, it's very easy to grab our contest stuff as a result.
Just search for Castlevania sprites and undoubtedly something from this board will come up. This user did not even have to make an account to grab the stuff.

Users like this user is the reason sites like gbatemp force you to sign up to even see attachments. But then, this user did make an account.  The mistake was advertising a game with stolen content at the very site from which the context was stolen.

We can add a rule about using content without a creator's permission being a bannable offense, but it's not solving the problem and, in my opinion, a superfluous rule. But if enough of you guys debate about it, I can add it to the Fan Stuff rules.

Just know that it's a "bandage on Cancer" kind of measure.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: darkmanx_429 on March 27, 2015, 06:40:40 AM
Our forum is the #1 search when it comes to Castlevania and anything social (Forum). Though the site is old, this Board is very much alive. The problem is, it's very easy to grab our contest stuff as a result.
Just search for Castlevania sprites and undoubtedly something from this board will come up. This user did not even have to make an account to grab the stuff.

Users like this user is the reason sites like gbatemp force you to sign up to even see attachments. But then, this user did make an account.  The mistake was advertising a game with stolen content at the very site from which the context was stolen.

We can add a rule about using content without a creator's permission being a bannable offense, but it's not solving the problem and, in my opinion, a superfluous rule. But if enough of you guys debate about it, I can add it to the Fan Stuff rules.

Just know that it's a "bandage on Cancer" kind of measure.

I'm with that, it's a start. Anything else that he has coming is on him...
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: theplottwist on March 27, 2015, 09:40:11 AM
Well I don't what the hell ya'll try to say, but I decided not to remove the sprite okay?!? No matter how many years you're going to say but the sprite must me in the game permanently, I will not credit to the author and I will not give him the damn face to the world, okay. over and out..

You're quite a fool if you think I need YOUR exposition for my sprite to be recognized as mine. My work shines by itself, and walks the internet alone, without my help, but carrying my name. What makes you think it needs YOUR help?

The whole drawing landed me one of the BEST job-contracts I could've asked for. While this sprite lands me nice jobs, your stealing of it lands you scorn and "thief" recognition.

You can keep the sprite (not that I endorse it, but still, I can't physically stop you), my name is written all over it already, without you needing to credit me. You don't need to cry, dude. But I keep asking myself how you'll promote one of the best original sprites in your game if you can't post it anywhere without it being censored for stealing. I mean, by showing the sprite, you're promoting YOUR game, not my drawing. It's actually a disservice for yourself not to show it. But anyway~

This:
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150328C%2Fezimba14497822713404.png&hash=241e5b730f72813395c90ca242c28177)

And I'm the "strange" one  :rollseyes:

You're actually recognizing the sprite as mine, so that's a nice start. You'll not be able to look at it without knowing you stole it. And this game is already plagued with the "theft" fame.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Chernabogue on March 27, 2015, 10:04:11 AM
Ericard, I think you may encounter problems in the future. I wish you good luck with real life. Your online life just ended, as you put the biggest Castlevania forum of the Internet against you. Wherever you'll post the game, we'll find it and people will know you stole work from other people. Whatever you do, we'll find you.

And don't think you're safe behind your screen in your mother's basement: justice can find you for stuff you do on the Internet (trust me, I know what I'm taking about). Trying to sell a game with stolen material in it is illegal (possession of stolen goods), even on the Internet.

You still can remove plot's sprite from your game, and I'd recommand you do that. It's still not too late to get away without any more trouble -- just remove the sprite, and replace it by whatever you want.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: darkmanx_429 on March 27, 2015, 10:30:40 AM
Ericard, I think you may encounter problems in the future. I wish you good luck with real life. Your online life just ended, as you put the biggest Castlevania forum of the Internet against you. Wherever you'll post the game, we'll find it and people will know you stole work from other people. Whatever you do, we'll find you.

And don't think you're safe behind your screen in your mother's basement: justice can find you for stuff you do on the Internet (trust me, I know what I'm taking about). Trying to sell a game with stolen material in it is illegal (possession of stolen goods), even on the Internet.

You still can remove plot's sprite from your game, and I'd recommand you do that. It's still not too late to get away without any more trouble -- just remove the sprite, and replace it by whatever you want.

Also, don't ever try to go into the video game industry.

The industry as a whole frown very much about this type of thing.

You won't ever land a job and everyone will know that you are a thief.

You have a long way to mature.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Belmontoya on March 27, 2015, 10:37:11 AM
In no defense of Ericard, this is why I do not care for ripped graphics for fan games. It's a grab bag of a bunch of crap pulled from anywhere. Of course you're going to end up using artwork you shouldn't with such a hacktastic method of game making. Apparently he's been doing this so long that he's lost any sense of morality.





Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: e105beta on March 27, 2015, 11:13:32 AM
If he ever puts this up on a website, all it takes is a PM to the staff to take it down, and if the staff don't cooperate, just contact the service provider and point them to the copyright violation. It'll get taken down quick.

God forbid if he ever tries to profit from it.

As it stands now, though, you guys have done all you can. He'll never be able to promote his game anywhere significant without people coming down on him.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Zuljaras on March 27, 2015, 02:31:52 PM
But what you're proposing is basically bullying. As justified as you believe it is your harsher strategy so far has been about as successful as your attempts at polite requests.

You sound like a one of those lawyers who defend criminals. That is not a good thing.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Bloo on March 27, 2015, 02:46:21 PM
You sound like a one of those lawyers who defend criminals. That is not a good thing.

To be fair, he was making a valid statement.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Jop on March 27, 2015, 04:07:16 PM
I wanted to talk to Ericard to talk about same  (almost same) histoy I have but dont have the time, the old persons in this forum know what im talking about, im feel terrible about what happen that day and still want to change that so much, but with the time I have never have a oportunity to send a pm or anything to Ericard, at 1st I think all is a mistake so he is going to talk nice and all, but when he say he is not going to remove the sprite I think thats so bad, If the creator dont want his art in your game you have to remove it, you dont have to risk your reputation and the reputation of your game, now your game are in a low pit and dont know how its going to end, if you still want to be a nice person I suggets to you to remove the sprite and learn from your mistakes as I did.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Aelfwine on March 27, 2015, 05:23:07 PM
You sound like a one of those lawyers who defend criminals. That is not a good thing.

I am actually against stealing sprites to use in games ( including from large companies, but that's another discussion). e105beta has the right idea, organising a group to stalk and harass people who have wronged you on the internet could reflect badly on a person and I think his is the most professional response to take.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on March 27, 2015, 05:41:15 PM
So it's wrong to follow him everywhere and publicly say "hey, you stole this and you're a bastard," but it's okay to follow him everywhere and PM the mods saying "hey, he stole this and he's a bastard?"

Not exactly following your logic, Aelfwine. I get it, but e105beta's suggestions weren't much different other than more nicely-worded methods of what we've been doing already.

We haven't sent him death threats.
We haven't geotagged or IP traced him to find his location and fuck with him IRL.
We haven't hacked his website and fucked everything up.
We haven't DDoS'd him.
We haven't done anything other than follow him to the places he's touting stolen content, told everyone he's stolen it, and called him out on acting like a twat when he does indeed act like a twat.

As I've said multiple times, I totally get what you're saying, but really there's a LOT worse that we could have done but haven't. I think you're antagonizing what we've been doing far more than is necessary. It's not like we're shaking down a third-grader for his lunch money here, we're shaking down the kid that does stupid shit and tries to weasel out of it to stop doing stupid shit and trying to weasel out of it.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Aelfwine on March 27, 2015, 07:29:20 PM
You're right, you haven't done all that stuff.
However this thread has been used to direct other users to ericard's presence on other websites with the  intention of harassing him. theplottwist has stated that he is "badmouthing this dude, wherever I go and he is present" not to mention the numerous times that this user has been insulted here and you've expressed a desire to be more aggressive.
What ericard has done is wrong, that's true. However I don't think that ruining his reputation does anything to fix that. It's just petty.

There is a big differance  between following an individual and publicly saying "Hey, you stole this and your a bastard!" and going to mods and saying "This content is stolen, can you please remove it".
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Bloo on March 27, 2015, 07:50:45 PM
This thread should be stickied, for reference to newer people.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: VladCT on March 27, 2015, 08:16:01 PM
You're right, you haven't done all that stuff.
However this thread has been used to direct other users to ericard's presence on other websites with the  intention of harassing him. theplottwist has stated that he is "badmouthing this dude, wherever I go and he is present" not to mention the numerous times that this user has been insulted here and you've expressed a desire to be more aggressive.
What ericard has done is wrong, that's true. However I don't think that ruining his reputation does anything to fix that. It's just petty.

There is a big differance  between following an individual and publicly saying "Hey, you stole this and your a bastard!" and going to mods and saying "This content is stolen, can you please remove it".
Considering that there isn't much we can do legally, the best we can do is to make an example out of him that this shit does not fly.

Also, casting another vote to content theft being a bannable offense.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: theplottwist on March 27, 2015, 08:22:01 PM
You're right, you haven't done all that stuff.
However this thread has been used to direct other users to ericard's presence on other websites with the  intention of harassing him. theplottwist has stated that he is "badmouthing this dude, wherever I go and he is present" not to mention the numerous times that this user has been insulted here and you've expressed a desire to be more aggressive.
What ericard has done is wrong, that's true. However I don't think that ruining his reputation does anything to fix that. It's just petty.

There is a big differance  between following an individual and publicly saying "Hey, you stole this and your a bastard!" and going to mods and saying "This content is stolen, can you please remove it".

Lucky me I don't play by this "be a better human" code. If I did, people like Ericard would be going around scott free doing their shit using my things without anyone stopping them. It's a silly self-imposed samurai restriction that generates no results whatsoever.

A person that does something wrong, needs to be reminded what they are doing wrong, or they'll never change.

By exposing Ericard and marking him as a thief, MAYBE he'll rethink his ways in the long run and eventually stop his antics. I know some people who do, so I'm positive in that. Until then, let the badmouthing run amok. It's not like it's having any effect, is it ;) ?

Also, I find it funny that you're expressing concern for him being "harassed too much", when the one starting it was himself by demeaning my work. You reap what you sow, I guess. I told him through PM that this was going to happen because he was acting like a twat. It's not like he didn't knew it or didn't have time to fix his mess. It was his choice to go on with his shenanigans, and this is the most I can do. So I'll do it.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: C Belmont on March 27, 2015, 09:07:34 PM
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This thread should be stickied, for reference to newer people.

It should be locked.
This thread targets a single user and encourages other members to follow and attack him and thus far the moderators have only either contributed to it or laughed.

If this thread targeted any other member I doubt it would have gone this far.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on March 27, 2015, 09:20:26 PM
I'm surprised he hasn't just been banned, given the amount of trouble he's caused.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: theANdROId on March 27, 2015, 09:42:22 PM
Also, casting another vote to content theft being a bannable offense.

I'll add to the votes as well.  I'd suggest that perhaps if amends and an agreement are made, perhaps banning won't be necessary?
I.E. if someone had apologized and gotten permission, or apologized and removed the stolen sprite, perhaps instead of conversations on banishment we could instead be reminiscing good times over a spot of tea and some crumpets...or a hamburger.

Also, while I do think some example should be made of the offender, there probably is a line to avoid crossing.  While a sticky for the sake of a warning to other spriters is a valid idea, we don't want him permanently in stocks do we?  "THIEF (http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/199279-the-memory-card-88-the-mark-of-a-thief/LoZLinksAwakeningTHIEF-620x.jpg)" is a deserving title right now, among others it seems as he continues to dig a grave for himself, and this instance should be stopped.  Notifying admins of the stolen content etc. in this game seems like a good idea.  However, people do have the ability to change and "grow up".  Perhaps in time, he will learn the proper way(s) to cite and use the intellectual property of others.  And it may be a long time before that happens...but eventually the rat is shocked enough (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KHTqt4unso) to learn it's way through the maze, right?
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: theplottwist on March 27, 2015, 09:46:53 PM
If this thread targeted any other member I doubt it would have gone this far.

Well, it only targeted Ericard because he did something shitty AFTER doing other shitty things. If someone here does something shitty, he'll have the same chances for redeeming himself that Ericard had before having the community turned against him. That's how I understand it, at least.

I don't get why some dudes here act as if Ericard has done nothing to deserve this. He walked EVERY wrong step there is to walk before this persecution happened. He had plenty of time before anyone decided to follow him and make his online life shit (and let's be real, we're being pretty tame and his life isn't even turning to shit so much).

C'mon, people.

But if you want to lock the thread, I will not oppose :)
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: darkmanx_429 on March 27, 2015, 09:47:12 PM
Can we make a "THIEF" award? ;D
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: theANdROId on March 27, 2015, 09:50:53 PM
One doesn't learn without consequences...I think it's just a matter of avoiding overkill. whatever exactly that means in this case.

Can we make a "THIEF" award? ;D
Change someones forum credentials?  That'd be kinda funny! X-D
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Chernabogue on March 28, 2015, 01:01:35 AM
Can we make a "THIEF" award? ;D
I lol'd. Thank you. :D
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Zuljaras on March 28, 2015, 03:20:53 AM
Can we make a "THIEF" award? ;D

This is a very good idea, but as I see it some people are too sensitive and maybe "THIEF" should be "PLAGIARIST" award.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: darkmanx_429 on March 28, 2015, 09:26:47 AM
This is a very good idea, but as I see it some people are too sensitive and maybe "THIEF" should be "PLAGIARIST" award.

Who cares if a "Thief" is sensitive?

The only people that should be sensitive are the ones that have their work stolen.

But I get your point...
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: X on March 28, 2015, 10:09:25 AM
If a person is a thief then they shouldn't get anything for it. No rewards, no nothing as it might make things worse.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Gunlord on March 28, 2015, 10:59:19 AM
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This thread targets a single user and encourages other members to follow and attack him and thus far the moderators have only either contributed to it or laughed.

Well, I understand where you're coming from, but as I've mentioned, Ericard has earned some opprobrium, and the hope is that a public grilling like this will get him to change his ways. If it doesn't, us mods will discuss it and see what we can do.

That said, I agree with X, a "Thief" or "plagiarist" award might just encourage people to do that stuff so they get the "honor." You know how some people are  :rollseyes:
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Aelfwine on March 28, 2015, 01:16:39 PM
Well, I understand where you're coming from, but as I've mentioned, Ericard has earned some opprobrium, and the hope is that a public grilling like this will get him to change his ways. If it doesn't, us mods will discuss it and see what we can do.

Wait, what?

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it part of the job of moderators to prevent users from being grilled by other members?
ericard was/is still a member of this forum. For the moderators to be endorsing a policy of shaming users when they step out of line instead of making every attempt to settle things amicably is a bit wrongheaded don't you think. Besides it's not your job to force him to change his ways. If he refuses to follow the rules he gets banned but this crusade against him should have been quashed by moderators a long time ago.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Zuljaras on March 28, 2015, 01:29:33 PM
If someone do idiotic stuff like that they should be punished. In our case he deserves to get exposed in ALL possible ways about "his" work everywhere.

With his refusal to remove the sprite from "his" game he, at least for me, is no longer a real member of this community.

The sprite is not even mine and I raged like mad when I saw what he did and how he refuses to remove this sprite.

I will "hunt" him down :D
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Gunlord on March 28, 2015, 01:42:08 PM
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instead of making every attempt to settle things amicably is a bit wrongheaded don't you think.

That's the thing, we *have* tried to settle this amicably. People have repeatedly told Ericard that what he's doing is wrong, I've spoken to him about the immorality of plagiarism, but nothing seems to be getting through to him. You're correct in saying we could just ban him, but as Jorge said earlier, that might keep him from ripping people off here, but then he could just go somewhere else and do the same thing. Thus, the hope is that public shaming will really give him the kick he needs to shape up, and ensure he doesn't plagiarize from *anybody,* not just us CVDers. Still, as I also said, us mods will keep an eye on him (and this thread) and take action if things seem to be getting out of hand.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Aelfwine on March 28, 2015, 02:17:54 PM
That's the thing, we *have* tried to settle this amicably. People have repeatedly told Ericard that what he's doing is wrong, I've spoken to him about the immorality of plagiarism, but nothing seems to be getting through to him. You're correct in saying we could just ban him, but as Jorge said earlier, that might keep him from ripping people off here, but then he could just go somewhere else and do the same thing. Thus, the hope is that public shaming will really give him the kick he needs to shape up, and ensure he doesn't plagiarize from *anybody,* not just us CVDers.

And it's not your job to stop him from doing that. It IS your job to stop people from creating threads that personally attack members of these forums, which is what's happened here.

Let me be absolutely clear I'm not defending how he acted, I agree that what he has done is wrong, but I also think that this misguided notion that ericard has to be "grilled" to change his ways is equally wrong. It hasn't made any headway so far and it never will. Frankly I think the moderators haven't done their job. If you spoke to ericard and he refused to follow the rules  he should have been banned and this thread should have been locked or removed for encouraging users to stalk him.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: theplottwist on March 28, 2015, 02:54:41 PM
Let me be absolutely clear I'm not defending how he acted, I agree that what he has done is wrong, but I also think that this misguided notion that ericard has to be "grilled" to change his ways is equally wrong. It hasn't made any headway so far and it never will.

Well, now you're simply grasping at straws.

First, it HAS wielded results. First Ericard was happily publishing about his things without any obstacle (and even had people behind him cheering him up). Now he's known as twat by the biggest Castlevania forum. Not mentioning the FB group, where he was banned along with every mention of him or his work, which I'll bet were the best places he could ever speak about his Castlevania-related things.

I call this progress. If he's not willing to change, ALL these people are not willing to forget what he did. Every time his work rises, someone will appear to point at it, and point back at this discussion. The more people know about it, the less inclined/more restrained from showing it he'll be. That is, until the sprite is removed and he learns his mistake.

Second, by saying he "never will" is quite a weak assertion. We don't know that. I personally think he will, simply because he's being publically shamed into complying. If he doesn't, his game won't lift ground, simple as that.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Aelfwine on March 28, 2015, 03:07:30 PM
Well, now you're simply grasping at straws.

First, it HAS wielded results. First Ericard was happily publishing about his things without any obstacle (and even had people behind him cheering him up). Now he's known as twat by the biggest Castlevania forum. Not mentioning the FB group, where he was banned along with every mention of him or his work, which I'll bet were the best places he could ever speak about his Castlevania-related things.

I call this progress. If he's not willing to change, ALL these people are not willing to forget what he did. Every time his work rises, someone will appear to point at it, and point back at this discussion. The more people know about it, the less inclined/more restrained from showing it he'll be. That is, until the sprite is removed and he learns his mistake.

Second, by saying he "never will" is quite a weak assertion. We don't know that. I personally think he will, simply because he's being publically shamed into complying. If he doesn't, his game won't lift ground, simple as that.

And if your goal was (presumably) to get ericard to remove the sprite that all amounts to nothing.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: theplottwist on March 28, 2015, 03:39:44 PM
And if your goal was (presumably) to get ericard to remove the sprite that all amounts to nothing.

That was my primary goal when the discussion was friendly. Now that he derailed it into hostility by being a dumbass, the goal changed: Screwing up his name is the goal. And it's working wonderfully. The end result is not him removing the sprite. The end result is having him not being able to publish about his game without being recognized as thief. So I'm satisfied :)

I'll give you, though, that I'd rather forget about it. I'll do it, but not so early.

If he DOES remove it, though, then I got nothing. I'll stop pursuing this because there will be no reason to further do it. The removal of the sprite is not the main objective anymore, but it indeed would give me no further reason to harass him as a "secondary objective" of sorts, I guess.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on March 28, 2015, 05:04:47 PM
For someone who just a few weeks ago was going on his own crusade against anybody who made fangames, you're awfully vocal against this crusade against a thief and an asshat.

Pot, meet kettle?
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Aelfwine on March 28, 2015, 05:37:06 PM
For someone who just a few weeks ago was going on his own crusade against anybody who made fangames, you're awfully vocal against this crusade against a thief and an asshat.

Pot, meet kettle?

If I recall correctly I suggested that an inspired game was a better idea than a fan game. Nobody agreed and I defended my opinion. Hardly a crusade. I'm not sure what the relevance here is though.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on March 28, 2015, 05:48:42 PM
Just that we're doing something, you don't agree with it, and we're defending our opinions and actions.

It's been explained more than a few times why we're doing this and why we feel it's justified. I don't know how many more times you expect us to repeat the same thing. If you don't get it or agree with it, fine, but it's getting a bit tiresome having to watch you say the same things antagonizing us over and over. We've explained ourselves, stop dragging it out. You're against this thread, but you're contributing to it and maybe keeping it from fizzling out.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Aelfwine on March 28, 2015, 06:08:26 PM
Just that we're doing something, you don't agree with it, and we're defending our opinions and actions.

It's been explained more than a few times why we're doing this and why we feel it's justified. I don't know how many more times you expect us to repeat the same thing. If you don't get it or agree with it, fine, but it's getting a bit tiresome having to watch you say the same things antagonizing us over and over. We've explained ourselves, stop dragging it out. You're against this thread, but you're contributing to it and maybe keeping it from fizzling out.

uh, yeah... I don't think you have much of a comparison. You may feel frustrated with repeating your reasons but I also find it frustrating that you don't see the problem with stalking people  on the internet with the intention  of causing harm. It's patently wrong and if it isn't already against the rules it should be.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: piscesdreams on March 28, 2015, 06:13:37 PM
The game looked like garbage anyway. We can rest assured no one will buy it if he attempts to sell it, and even if not, it is very mediocre and will be quickly forgotten.

It doesnt even look like a decent proof of concept, let alone "game". The best part is the Dracula sprite which I hope will be put to good use and find good success with plottwists project.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on March 28, 2015, 07:01:32 PM
You talk as though I (and the others) are gleefully "stalking" him and laughing maniacally as we destroy his entire existence.

We're not. We're showing an idiot (because he is, indeed, an idiot) that it's not okay to steal.

Would it be a grievous wrong to take your kid back to the store he shoplifted from and make him publicly return what he stole and embarrass him in front of everybody there?

Rhetorical question, I already imagine you'll say it is. But that's basically what we're doing.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on March 29, 2015, 07:38:05 AM
I'm currently vacationing, but upon my return I will add extra rules to content added to Fan Stuff.

I'm not locking this thread, as I feel the Castlevania Dungeon has a strong stance against plagiarism and other similar tomfoolery. I will add the rule and make a newspost So that it appears on the usual page refreshes.

I don't condone online bullying, but this isn't that. Then again, what people do OUTSIDE the forum is out of moderstion's jurisdiction.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Aelfwine on March 29, 2015, 06:30:05 PM
I don't know how you can say you don't support online bullying, Jorge.  I mean look:

from theplottwist:
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I'm doing the most I can do at the moment, which is badmouthing this dude wherever I go and he's present.
Dracula9:
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What a twat.
Also, am I the only one laughing over him using one of those Flash waifu makers for his character portraits?
Piscesdreams:
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"He is a most confusing individual. Everything he says is contradictory, moronic and self-serving. "I'M GONNA PUT THIS IN MY GAME, BECAUSE I DON'T NEED IT AND CAN'T REMOVE IT!"
I feel like every time he speaks I lose a year off of my life and get a little dumber."
dracula9:
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"I'll bet you he's like twelve. This level of stupidity just screams "youngin."'
pisces dreams:
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Seems like that's Ericard's mentality. A clusterfuck of wut

some moderators even recognise that members have been making fun of ericard.
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Dracula, I think Kokushibyo was *making fun* of Ericard, i.e Ericard is so dumb even 12 year olds are smarter and more mature than he is. XD"
dracula9
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"I wouldn't be against getting a whole troupe of people to follow him everywhere he posts the game and leave comments over what he's done and downvote the shit out of it all until he gets the damn memo and stops being a bastard."
Jorge :
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"DDoS will Cure what ails ya."

theplottwist:
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First, it HAS wielded results. First Ericard was happily publishing about his things without any obstacle (and even had people behind him cheering him up). Now he's known as twat by the biggest Castlevania forum. Not mentioning the FB group, where he was banned along with every mention of him or his work, which I'll bet were the best places he could ever speak about his Castlevania-related things
theplottwist:
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"That was my primary goal when the discussion was friendly. Now that he derailed it into hostility by being a dumbass, the goal changed: Screwing up his name is the goal.

If you can read all this and still not see it for what it is then I don't know what to say. All this happened INSIDE this forum. You can say all you like that you can't control what people do outside the forum but you CAN stop people from making threads HERE to attack people.  Unfortunately it seems the moderators have left this thread open specifically so it can be used to target ericard.  You cannot in all seriousness say that you don't support bullying while simultaneously allowing a thread to exist where users have openly admitted a malicious desire to shame and destroy the reputation of an individual on other websites. It's ridiculous.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on March 29, 2015, 06:38:17 PM
Denser than a block of lead.

He is a fucking content scraper. Everything that has happened has not gone unprovoked.

Get over yourself. You're not some advocating hero defending the meek, you're acting like just another one of those tools mindlessly blaming everything on bullying and pointing fingers at everyone but the accused because you can't seem to wrap your head around the concept of reaping what one sows.

And I want to know, just how many of the other sites Ericard's visited have you actually gone to yourself, hm? Have you seen what the hell he was doing on Facebook? I did, in fact I was there for most of it, and I can tell you with honesty he had that particular ban coming and then some. If his posts weren't gone due to said ban I'd post them here for you, since you clearly won't listen to a word I say.

Have you been in PM conversation with him, or seen the PMs he'd sent to plot? No, and neither has anyone else.

You only know what you've seen in this teeny tiny little thread, a small part of the whole thing. And you ordain to hound us for reacting aggressively? Get over yourself.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on March 29, 2015, 08:18:26 PM
The person guilty of plagiarism deserves the entire wrath of Anonymous, as far as I'm concerned. It is not bullying, it is vigilantism since the person has done something that the society sees as wrong.

Bullying would imply that the user did nothing wrong and people are just meanies who are being big meanies doing and saying mean things, those meanies.  Meanies.

This is not the case.
I stand by my opinion, but my opinion and what the Castlevania Dungeon's collective administrative stance on something are not always in alignment.

I suppose in the future I should post what is my personal opinion and what is the forum's administrative stance...
...or not. I really don't care to do that much work for an insignificant percentage of the forum populace.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: piscesdreams on March 29, 2015, 08:20:33 PM
So my comments are dictated as bullying? I stated the facts that what Ericard says makes no sense, that he contradicts himself. If I was bullying, I would have gone much further and believe me it would not take place here. I will kindly ask you to take my comments for face value, and not twist them to your agenda. If you view me as a bully, that is fine, because you are misconstruing the facts so I will chalk it up to confusion.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Zuljaras on March 31, 2015, 04:30:45 AM
Ericard just took the first step of becoming a criminal. And we have to leave him alone? Just hope he will be banned here? That is not how things work in my eyes. I will go to the other Castlevania sites with proof that he is a thief and make him sorry for his ignorance.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: darkmanx_429 on March 31, 2015, 06:00:55 AM
The person guilty of plagiarism deserves the entire wrath of Anonymous, as far as I'm concerned. It is not bullying, it is vigilantism since the person has done something that the society sees as wrong.

Bullying would imply that the user did nothing wrong and people are just meanies who are being big meanies doing and saying mean things, those meanies.  Meanies.

This is not the case.
I stand by my opinion, but my opinion and what the Castlevania Dungeon's collective administrative stance on something are not always in alignment.

I suppose in the future I should post what is my personal opinion and what is the forum's administrative stance...
...or not. I really don't care to do that much work for an insignificant percentage of the forum populace.

I think a ban of Ericard would at least satisfy both parties and points of view at least in THIS forum. (For the millionth time.)

As I mentioned before, it may not stop him from coming to this site and stealing content but at least everyone would feel better about the whole situation in general to include the victim, The Plot Twist.

I see all this nonsense about trying to defend Ericard and he is dead wrong ( he even admitted it himself), but alot less about The Plot Twist and the distress that has been caused to him.

Either way, The Plot Twist was attacked through PM by Ericard and had his work stolen and then some vindictive crap started to go down which of course opened the flood gates to this thread.

Without wadding through everyone's opinions of this thread, that calls for a ban if I don't know what does...

What happens after a ban here "off the grid" so to speak doesn't really have any relevance to anything regarding the dungeon only to serve as a warning to others that may want to do something similar in the future.

Let's just ban Ericard and put this whole ugly mess to bed before we get some copy-cats or some major heat or whatever.

I just got the feeling nothing productive is going to come out of this mess and the whole message about stealing is getting lost in the back and forth.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: e105beta on March 31, 2015, 08:28:32 AM
Having been on the wrong side of a situation like this before, I can confidently say this is not bullying. Bullying would be harassing Ericard while in the process of, or after, getting the sprite removed from the game. Bullying would be if Ericard was cooperating with you guys, but you still followed him around and labeled him "THIEF" wherever he went. Bullying would be making death threats or illegally using his personal information against him.

This is not any of that. Ericard was caught in a copyright violation, and instead of apologizing and taking the sprite out, he:

1. Lied about finding it on google
2. Argued that it was fine because there was no explicit copyright statement on the sprite
3. Insisted it was impossible to remove, despite the fact that anyone with the brain to make a game obviously knows its not.
4. Pissed on the quality of the work
5. Continued to promote his game on other websites
6. Pretended to be another person on said other websites to avoid direct scrutiny
7. Returned here to finally and defiantly declare that there was no way the sprite was ever being removed

At this point he's not becoming a criminal, he IS one, and if he has a website that hosts this content it should be taken down.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on March 31, 2015, 06:05:51 PM
I think a ban of Ericard would at least satisfy both parties and points of view at least in THIS forum. (For the millionth time.)

You know what we DO have a rule for? Junior-moderating.  So knock it off.
When I return from vacation, we the moderation team will discuss what will be done.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Zuljaras on April 06, 2015, 01:32:46 AM
I just wanted to post what I found about Ericard on youtube.

"YOU STEAL MY MOD AND YOU VIOLATE THE ENGINE COPYRIGHT, NOW CEASE ALL YOUR STUPID FIGHTING STREET GAME VIDEO AND MY MOD THAT YOU MODIFIED RIGHT NOW!"
"FUCK YOUR DICK ASSHOLE, YOU STILL USING MY MOD WITHOUT CREDIT AND STEALING ALL MY BASE STUFF!!! I SAID BRING IT DOWN ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU USING ALL THE TWELVE CHARACTERS!!!"
These are comments of the Casval Char a user who I think is Ericard because the same channel promotes the videos of the Castlevania with the stolen sprite.

Also one more comment from the same idiot - "The projectile is so fucking cheap and no challenging at all, go suck the hell with this dunk." This post was left on a Fan made Castlevania game.

And some people here will tell me that I should not try to dring this mother****** down? Seriously?
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Chernabogue on April 06, 2015, 01:45:34 AM
Damn.  :-X
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: theplottwist on April 06, 2015, 02:28:44 PM
I just wanted to post what I found about Ericard on youtube.

"YOU STEAL MY MOD AND YOU VIOLATE THE ENGINE COPYRIGHT, NOW CEASE ALL YOUR STUPID FIGHTING STREET GAME VIDEO AND MY MOD THAT YOU MODIFIED RIGHT NOW!"
"FUCK YOUR DICK ASSHOLE, YOU STILL USING MY MOD WITHOUT CREDIT AND STEALING ALL MY BASE STUFF!!! I SAID BRING IT DOWN ALL THE STUFF THAT YOU USING ALL THE TWELVE CHARACTERS!!!"
These are comments of the Casval Char a user who I think is Ericard because the same channel promotes the videos of the Castlevania with the stolen sprite.

Also one more comment from the same idiot - "The projectile is so fucking cheap and no challenging at all, go suck the hell with this dunk." This post was left on a Fan made Castlevania game.

And some people here will tell me that I should not try to dring this mother****** down? Seriously?

For context:

https://plus.google.com/109140888451959105293/posts/gRJQEg2JJ3T (https://plus.google.com/109140888451959105293/posts/gRJQEg2JJ3T) <<Notice the date of this post. It's around the time all that stuff was happening over here, if I'm not mistaken.

https://plus.google.com/109140888451959105293/posts/3snJzRk9xHg (https://plus.google.com/109140888451959105293/posts/3snJzRk9xHg)

https://plus.google.com/109140888451959105293/posts/NYkFnysz4Pr (https://plus.google.com/109140888451959105293/posts/NYkFnysz4Pr) << lol

https://plus.google.com/109140888451959105293/posts/TJY8y5Hdfi2 (https://plus.google.com/109140888451959105293/posts/TJY8y5Hdfi2) << This one is funny. The date coincides with the time I posted a video about this on the Castlevania group on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2204577638/permalink/10152985628032639/). So yeah, he's talking about my project lol. The funny part is that, instead of simply clicking the link and saying shit about Umbra on the comments, he went to youtube, typed in the name of the video, and commented on the WRONG video.

So, we have an alpha-class dipshit on our hands. There is also some offenses towards Serio's projects, and other smaller projects. This dude is a joke. So much that he upvotes his own comments, like a stray dog licking his own balls.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: piscesdreams on April 06, 2015, 02:52:43 PM
This may have been posted already, and I think it was discussed, but what in the actual fuckery is this shit?
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: theANdROId on April 06, 2015, 02:55:06 PM
So wait...

- Casval Char is Ericard (at least we think so anyway...)

- Someone named SeepBar is stealing Char/Ericard's work

- Char/Ericard insulted plot's game, but on the wrong video

Am I following this right?  Did I miss anything?
If someone is stealing his work, it serves him right.  You reap what you sow I guess...or something like that.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: darkmanx_429 on April 06, 2015, 03:02:11 PM
You know what we DO have a rule for? Junior-moderating.  So knock it off.
When I return from vacation, we the moderation team will discuss what will be done.

Really? :o Excuse me for actually giving a crap about what if going on in the forum and offering a suggestion and responding to something that someone else already mentioned.

I am not doing much moderating at all actually, considering I don't have Any power to do so.

You said in the past that you want members to take some initiative and not really rely so much on the mods to have to do everything well, here I am offering my suggestion which by the way is one of the tamer ones I have seen on this thread.

And, just so we are clear I have asked before in the past to become a Mod if possible and become a more productive member of the dungeon. Considering since the beginning of the year that all of the new contests and even some past threads were single handedly my ideas, U would think that you would appreciate members policing their own without dragging mods into every little issue.

It's not like I have even PM' you to hell about this issue or anything, it's just this issue is obviously a major issue considering that you have alot of members of the dungeon in general that are all sorts of Artists and we are very protective of our original works.

I am sure other members agree?

It's not like you even have to agree on what we suggest, but don't act like I don't have a voice here.

I have been more than courteous depending on some of the other stuff I have seen on this thread...
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: theANdROId on April 06, 2015, 03:21:03 PM
This guy has us all quite riled up.  No lie -- aside from the obvious errors he's made, following this whole story has been fairly amusing.  I hope we all find at least some amusement in this...laughing, even at oneself, is healthy.  I would also hope we don't all get so upset that we end up turning on each other over whatever thoughts, feelings, or comments come out in this craziness. :-S  We're all good pals here!
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: darkmanx_429 on April 06, 2015, 03:39:16 PM
This guy has us all quite riled up.  No lie -- aside from the obvious errors he's made, following this whole story has been fairly amusing.  I hope we all find at least some amusement in this...laughing, even at oneself, is healthy.  I would also hope we don't all get so upset that we end up turning on each other over whatever thoughts, feelings, or comments come out in this craziness. :-S  We're all good pals here!

Your probably right ANdROId...I was just annoyed because I had already agreed with everyone else about Jorge adding a rule before and he singled me out.

Hell, I didn't even call out the mods like some of the other members did!
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: BMC_War Machine on April 06, 2015, 03:46:43 PM
Our forum is the #1 search when it comes to Castlevania and anything social (Forum). Though the site is old, this Board is very much alive. The problem is, it's very easy to grab our contest stuff as a result.
Just search for Castlevania sprites and undoubtedly something from this board will come up. This user did not even have to make an account to grab the stuff.

Users like this user is the reason sites like gbatemp force you to sign up to even see attachments. But then, this user did make an account.  The mistake was advertising a game with stolen content at the very site from which the context was stolen.

We can add a rule about using content without a creator's permission being a bannable offense, but it's not solving the problem and, in my opinion, a superfluous rule. But if enough of you guys debate about it, I can add it to the Fan Stuff rules.

Just know that it's a "bandage on Cancer" kind of measure.
I have to disagree.  Firstly, to agree would be on the first topic: being the #1 search found online.  And there's good reason for that; until things like this happen that is.  Easy to make an account? sure. easy to rip off others work? apparently easy as well.  But to brush off blatantly stealing someone's work AFTER said person clearly gave no permission..not cool :rollseyes: another thing not too cool is slamming "junior-mods".  Look, im not a mod, have no desire to be one.  I'll be the first to say that things can get me from zero to pissed off in 2.5 seconds lol, so that's another reason why i could never be a good mod.  But for "junior mods" to get heat from stating the same things that countless of us have said on here already is uncalled for.  I agree with the majority, Ericard's ass needs canned!  He needs to continue to suck at life and live in everyone's shadow like he's shown us he can do so well.  Dicks like this one is the reason why A LOT of us "real" fans have our love for the game just trashed when we want to take a stab at making games as well.  I dont know about you guys but from here on out ANY artwork i may contribute on here will have a nasty watermark on it to keep bitches like this one from stealing from me as well!  So in closing, i agree with the above quote in this aspect: "Our forum is the #1 search when it comes to Castlevania and anything social (Forum). Though the site is old, this Board is very much alive." Keeping things like this from going without consequence will ensure that at some point or another we get trumped by another cv site.  Just the way it goes.  Eventually people get tired of getting shit on and look elsewhere.  Again, not bitching - theplottwist, dude it sucks that someone stole your shit, all you gotta do now is just make something that absolutely crushes theirs.  Trust me, i've been in a VERY similar boat here also and posted my thoughts on it as well.  All you can do is keep doing what your doing man. $0.02 - end rant
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: piscesdreams on April 06, 2015, 04:00:08 PM
IMO, plagiarizing should be a supreme offense that gets one banned, but that still really doesn't stop it. My suggestion would be to watermark your works lightly so that it doesn't really detract from your work, but makes it impossible to use otherwise. That may be hard to do, I know. But I would really recommend it if you don't want your work being used without permission.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on April 06, 2015, 07:23:52 PM
I think it's funny that that Seep fellow actually linked to this thread.

I think it's safe to say word is definitely getting around what Ericard's done. The fact that he's flying off the handle and (falsely) accusing others of the same shit he's pulled himself isn't helping his case, either.

So much like our old friend donlicht, I think it's a fair bet than Ericard's monumental stupidity, coupled with the rightful damning of his reputation, has largely served its purpose. People other than us appear to have begun taking notice, and with that he and his work will eventually fall into obscurity and die down altogether. Obviously there's not much we can do to get Plot's sprite out of his hands, since we can't force him to do anything, but his reputation's been shot by all of this (deservedly so) and sooner or later someone will call him on it whenever he posts something.

And if he does still try and publish the game with Plot's sprite still in it? It's an easy matter of calling up his ISP and getting it taken down for the theft and plagarism, and if you really wanna be technical libel depending on where he posts it.

Ultimately, I don't think there's much more we can do in his case, aside from potentially banning him or whatnot. We've had our rants, with him as well as amongst ourselves, and we've spread word around enough for the information regarding his actions to trickle down through friends of friends of friends.

It's my conclusion that in the long run, Ericard's done for.

I think perhaps it might be best now if we begin to start taking the situation a little more lightly, because while the theft and lies aren't okay at all, there's not much else we can do but sit back and maybe get a laugh or two out of how ridiculous and hypocritical he's acting now. I'm not very fond of infighting, especially when I've been involved in it myself, so with that I think maybe it's time we start to move forward.

He's deserved the bashing he's gotten and then some, but that only accomplishes so much. Perhaps now we should look to the future, and spend our time making bigger and better things, and show him what a great project really looks like, eh?
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Koutei on April 06, 2015, 07:40:49 PM
He's ADMIN in Castlevainia Fanon Wiki now.

http://castlevaniafanon.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity (http://castlevaniafanon.wikia.com/wiki/Special:WikiActivity)
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Belmontoya on April 06, 2015, 08:32:17 PM
It's the internet. All this punk has to do is change his name on forums.

The real lesson here is to protect your artwork. Especially if it's artwork in a style you didn't create, like mock nes or mock SOTN.

Countless people make fan games with ripped graphics in those styles. Some of them have honor, but others are like hungry wolves. Propreitary art styles are innately more immune to this sort of theft.

If you're going to post artwork without some sort of protection then you may as well be leaving your car doors unlocked and your wallet on the bar as you get smashed. It's the same carelessness. We'd like to think we live in a world where we can trust people. But...

There are ass holes in the world. If you're concerned about where your artwork could end up, then protect it. Or you may find your quality work making a cameo in a shit pile like plot twist did.

There's really nothing much else to this. This thread is turning into tail chasing.

Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Chernabogue on April 06, 2015, 11:03:11 PM
ZOBEK
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Chernabogue on April 06, 2015, 11:14:33 PM
I found Ericard's demand to become an admin, and sent Wikia a message: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Adoption:Castlevania_Fanon_Wiki (http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Adoption:Castlevania_Fanon_Wiki)

Hopefully his IP will be banned.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Nagumo on April 07, 2015, 07:18:16 AM
I think the obvious solution here is watermarking one's work. I may come across as untrusting to others, but unfortunately it's the only proper method of preventing theft. I don't think the burden should be soley on the moderation team or the artist. It's a good opportunity for both parties to compliment each other. The artist can protect his work by watermarking and we could help by, for example, add a disclaimer at the top of the Fan Stuff sub-forum suggesting this should be done to protect one's own content, or ban the person responsible if this person happens to have an account here.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Gunlord on April 07, 2015, 05:02:57 PM
This guy has us all quite riled up.  No lie -- aside from the obvious errors he's made, following this whole story has been fairly amusing.  I hope we all find at least some amusement in this...laughing, even at oneself, is healthy.  I would also hope we don't all get so upset that we end up turning on each other over whatever thoughts, feelings, or comments come out in this craziness. :-S  We're all good pals here!

Yeah, I agree with this :D Ericard may have transgressed, but the rest of us are all friends here. I know it's tiresome, but please give us a little more time to decide what needs to be done--there are some things all of us need to discuss together, like specific wordings for rule changes, what the procedure will be for dealing with plagiarism in the future, etc. etc. Just be a little patient and stay calm, everyone, and we'll sort this out. No need for a clown like Ericard to rile us up :)
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Chernabogue on April 08, 2015, 01:56:17 AM
One solution is a DMCA takedown, which would help remove stolen content: http://www.dmca.com/signup/?r=sol (http://www.dmca.com/signup/?r=sol)

Here's my conversation with a Wikia staff member: http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:823268 (http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:823268) (If you want to add something, please let me know.)
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 08, 2015, 03:16:32 AM
DMCA looks like a good idea but it costs money.
We have to wait for Jorge.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Dracula9 on April 08, 2015, 06:15:47 AM
Isn't it the Wikia administration team's job to make sure things posted aren't stolen/violating copyright/blatant lies? I mean I get that there's only so much one can do but why would one grant a request of authoritative power without doing a bit of background check on the person asking?

Why the hell should we (I say we since if it came to this there's not way I'd make plot shell all of it out of his own pocket)) have to pay $200 for something that could have been avoided if they hadn't given him admin rights? They're perfectly capable of stripping him of power and removing the false information themselves, I've seen it done before without DMCAs.

Not as pissed off as I proooooobably sound, but it just doesn't make sense to me that the other administrators apparently can't do anything administrative and just link to external services that cost a decent chunk of money.

Left a comment by the way, Chern.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Chernabogue on April 08, 2015, 10:31:22 AM
The admin answered, and she said we have to contact through a special way. I'll let you guys, especially plot, decide what to do.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on April 08, 2015, 09:50:34 PM
Really? :o Excuse me for actually giving a crap about what if going on in the forum and offering a suggestion and responding to something that someone else already mentioned.

I am not doing much moderating at all actually, considering I don't have Any power to do so.

You said in the past that you want members to take some initiative and not really rely so much on the mods to have to do everything well, here I am offering my suggestion which by the way is one of the tamer ones I have seen on this thread.

And, just so we are clear I have asked before in the past to become a Mod if possible and become a more productive member of the dungeon. Considering since the beginning of the year that all of the new contests and even some past threads were single handedly my ideas, U would think that you would appreciate members policing their own without dragging mods into every little issue.

It's not like I have even PM' you to hell about this issue or anything, it's just this issue is obviously a major issue considering that you have alot of members of the dungeon in general that are all sorts of Artists and we are very protective of our original works.

I am sure other members agree?

It's not like you even have to agree on what we suggest, but don't act like I don't have a voice here.

I have been more than courteous depending on some of the other stuff I have seen on this thread...

Please look at the rules. See rule No.6 for what the definition of "junior moderating" is.
I will not have members instigating lynchmobs.

The moderation team and I will discuss these matters upon my return. As Gunlord reiterated earlier, we ask for your patience until we the mods can have a proper discussion about this... which will not happen for at least a week. 
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Ericard on April 09, 2015, 07:02:25 AM
Please look at the rules. See rule No.6 for what the definition of "junior moderating" is.
I will not have members instigating lynchmobs.

The moderation team and I will discuss these matters upon my return. As Gunlord reiterated earlier, we ask for your patience until we the mods can have a proper discussion about this... which will not happen for at least a week.

Dear Forge and other admin, I decide to put down the Plottwist sprite from the mod now. I apologize for the behaviour and that I done to plottwist and other members. And I have a few demands here:
1)Delete this topic, and also delete another topic that I posted in fan stuff
2)Terminate my account, PS:I don't need to be here anymore.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Zuljaras on April 09, 2015, 08:13:05 AM
Dear Forge and other admin, I decide to put down the Plottwist sprite from the mod now. I apologize for the behaviour and that I done to plottwist and other members. And I have a few demands here:
1)Delete this topic, and also delete another topic in fan stuff
2)Terminate my account, PS:I don't need to be here anymore.

I hope your apology and actions are real. If that is the case good luck.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Ericard on April 09, 2015, 08:18:56 AM
I hope your apology and actions are real. If that is the case good luck.

Yes, it's true. So sorry guys... I just bring out his sprite from the mod.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: darkmanx_429 on April 09, 2015, 09:02:02 AM
Please look at the rules. See rule No.6 for what the definition of "junior moderating" is.
I will not have members instigating lynchmobs.

The moderation team and I will discuss these matters upon my return. As Gunlord reiterated earlier, we ask for your patience until we the mods can have a proper discussion about this... which will not happen for at least a week.
Instigating a lynchmob?! When the heck did I say anything about starting a lynchmob?! A matter of fact to be technical I didn't even start this thread!

My very first post was just a suggestion about a statement being made about this as it may discourage others from doing this in the future!

This is coming from one of the people that encouraged to do a DDOS attack on Ericard!

Maybe you should look at the comments in this thread more carefully:
So you propose to just let him get off scot-free and probably do this to somebody else?

I didn't say it was a perfect answer

Jorge knows what's up.

Hell I even agreed with your suggestion about adding a content without a creator's premission:
I'm with that, it's a start. Anything else that he has coming is on him...

Your coming at me, but yet the true creator of the sprite said it himself:
Lucky me I don't play by this "be a better human" code. If I did, people like Ericard would be going around scott free doing their shit using my things without anyone stopping them. It's a silly self-imposed samurai restriction that generates no results whatsoever.

A person that does something wrong, needs to be reminded what they are doing wrong, or they'll never change.

By exposing Ericard and marking him as a thief, MAYBE he'll rethink his ways in the long run and eventually stop his antics. I know some people who do, so I'm positive in that. Until then, let the badmouthing run amok. It's not like it's having any effect, is it ;) ?

Also, I find it funny that you're expressing concern for him being "harassed too much", when the one starting it was himself by demeaning my work. You reap what you sow, I guess. I told him through PM that this was going to happen because he was acting like a twat. It's not like he didn't knew it or didn't have time to fix his mess. It was his choice to go on with his shenanigans, and this is the most I can do. So I'll do it.

I haven't said anything that hasn't been mentioned already than other members and not even to some of the other extremes that were mentioned:
It should be locked.
This thread targets a single user and encourages other members to follow and attack him and thus far the moderators have only either contributed to it or laughed.

If this thread targeted any other member I doubt it would have gone this far.
This thread should be stickied, for reference to newer people.
I'm surprised he hasn't just been banned, given the amount of trouble he's caused.
I'll add to the votes as well.  I'd suggest that perhaps if amends and an agreement are made, perhaps banning won't be necessary?
I.E. if someone had apologized and gotten permission, or apologized and removed the stolen sprite, perhaps instead of conversations on banishment we could instead be reminiscing good times over a spot of tea and some crumpets...or a hamburger.

Also, while I do think some example should be made of the offender, there probably is a line to avoid crossing.  While a sticky for the sake of a warning to other spriters is a valid idea, we don't want him permanently in stocks do we?  "THIEF (http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/199279-the-memory-card-88-the-mark-of-a-thief/LoZLinksAwakeningTHIEF-620x.jpg)" is a deserving title right now, among others it seems as he continues to dig a grave for himself, and this instance should be stopped.  Notifying admins of the stolen content etc. in this game seems like a good idea.  However, people do have the ability to change and "grow up".  Perhaps in time, he will learn the proper way(s) to cite and use the intellectual property of others.  And it may be a long time before that happens...but eventually the rat is shocked enough (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KHTqt4unso) to learn it's way through the maze, right?
If someone do idiotic stuff like that they should be punished. In our case he deserves to get exposed in ALL possible ways about "his" work everywhere.

With his refusal to remove the sprite from "his" game he, at least for me, is no longer a real member of this community.

The sprite is not even mine and I raged like mad when I saw what he did and how he refuses to remove this sprite.

I will "hunt" him down :D
Ericard just took the first step of becoming a criminal. And we have to leave him alone? Just hope he will be banned here? That is not how things work in my eyes. I will go to the other Castlevania sites with proof that he is a thief and make him sorry for his ignorance.
Having been on the wrong side of a situation like this before, I can confidently say this is not bullying. Bullying would be harassing Ericard while in the process of, or after, getting the sprite removed from the game. Bullying would be if Ericard was cooperating with you guys, but you still followed him around and labeled him "THIEF" wherever he went. Bullying would be making death threats or illegally using his personal information against him.

This is not any of that. Ericard was caught in a copyright violation, and instead of apologizing and taking the sprite out, he:

1. Lied about finding it on google
2. Argued that it was fine because there was no explicit copyright statement on the sprite
3. Insisted it was impossible to remove, despite the fact that anyone with the brain to make a game obviously knows its not.
4. Pissed on the quality of the work
5. Continued to promote his game on other websites
6. Pretended to be another person on said other websites to avoid direct scrutiny
7. Returned here to finally and defiantly declare that there was no way the sprite was ever being removed

At this point he's not becoming a criminal, he IS one, and if he has a website that hosts this content it should be taken down.

Dude if your just buddies with him or whatever then just say so, but don't come at me sideways for no reason. You mention "Junior Moderating" yet, I've been on the forum for a while now and my near 1700 posts prove that.

If you had such a issue about me suggesting that Ericard be banned just so he doesn't get extra harassed or this thread turn into a cluster (which it did) then say it to everyone, not just me.

Don't know how I feel about not being able to offer my opinions to a site that is clearly bias to certain members and anyone else outside of the little circle gets sh*t. (This is not the first time this has happened here) Maybe I should just take my fan-game and move on...

I clearly was passionate about this forum when I first came about it and tried to make it a little better than when I left it.

All The Contests, Bestiary and Compendium and Music and Sound Reguests Showcase were single handedly my ideas which got used and got great traffic for the site that it hadn't seen in apparently a long while.

Never asked to be rewarded anything in that regard and I even asked a couple of times long before to help Mod, but I guess I am not cool enough to be in your guys little circle or whatever.

 I was just happy to be around Castlevania fans and being able to promote my fan-game here.

I am going to have to meditate on this issue.

 It may just be time for me to move on and leave the dungeon to become like 1up.com.

Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on April 09, 2015, 10:45:22 AM
I apologize if I came off as if I were singling you out, darkmanx_429.

I react in this way whenever I see a lynchmob arising.

I also apologize if my actions and words appear rough. Be assured that this is due to heavy events happening in past years.

In those dark times, forum cliques were rampant, and even a few mods were part of those cliques.

It would only take one uppity forum member calling for a ban for people to rally behind that person, and force a decision from a Mod or two.

Because of this, the rule exists now.
It is a fundamental rule, and I take great care to enforce it by bringing it up whenever there is such an attempt.

Since I have not been paying close attention, I was not aware of others suggesting a ban prior, but from what I saw, it appeared as if you, darkmanx_429,  we're spearheading that campaign. If I'm wrong, supreme apologies.

My PERSONAL opinion about the DDOS attack has little to nothing to do with what the executive decisions of the forum regarding the user should be.

Within the confines of the forum, we the administration, have always discussed what to do about policy, members, rules, etc.

What I suggest people do outside of the forum has nothing to do with this, as I explained in an earlier reply.

As for taking your ball and going home stamping your feet, darkmanx_429, that is your decision.  But you're not tethered here and I will not go around making hasty decisions about forum policy due to one or a handful of forum members' desires.  It's just not going to happen.

You can suggest action from mods using a PM as mentioned in the rule. Public outcry and rallying for a decision is a good way to get it ignored. Go through the proper channels, please.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: darkmanx_429 on April 09, 2015, 11:33:59 AM
I apologize if I came off as if I were singling you out, darkmanx_429.

I react in this way whenever I see a lynchmob arising.

I also apologize if my actions and words appear rough. Be assured that this is due to heavy events happening in past years.

In those dark times, forum cliques were rampant, and even a few mods were part of those cliques.

It would only take one uppity forum member calling for a ban for people to rally behind that person, and force a decision from a Mod or two.

Because of this, the rule exists now.
It is a fundamental rule, and I take great care to enforce it by bringing it up whenever there is such an attempt.

Since I have not been paying close attention, I was not aware of others suggesting a ban prior, but from what I saw, it appeared as if you, darkmanx_429,  we're spearheading that campaign. If I'm wrong, supreme apologies.

My PERSONAL opinion about the DDOS attack has little to nothing to do with what the executive decisions of the forum regarding the user should be.

Within the confines of the forum, we the administration, have always discussed what to do about policy, members, rules, etc.

What I suggest people do outside of the forum has nothing to do with this, as I explained in an earlier reply.

As for taking your ball and going home stamping your feet, darkmanx_429, that is your decision.  But you're not tethered here and I will not go around making hasty decisions about forum policy due to one or a handful of forum members' desires.  It's just not going to happen.

You can suggest action from mods using a PM as mentioned in the rule. Public outcry and rallying for a decision is a good way to get it ignored. Go through the proper channels, please.

Well, I am not above accepting a apology Jorge, so I accept your apology.

Maybe I just need a break from the forum a while, alot of shenanigans been happening too frequently lately.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Johnny on April 09, 2015, 01:16:41 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sONfxPCTU0) Just seems like the right thing to say.
Title: Re: The stealing, plagiarizing user called Ericard :)
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on April 09, 2015, 08:32:09 PM
Update:
Ericard and theplottwist are talking via PM about the sprite problem.

It is my understanding, due to a PM Ericard sent me, that he will be removing the sprite from his game.
He also says that he has stopped attempting to get people to purchase his game since he got that warning from the CV Facebook Group guy.
Lastly, he hopes the attacks on him and his game please stop, now that he has complied.

I ask that everyone take a moment, relax, and allow any deliberations regarding this to happen between Ericard and theplottwist.

As mentioned before, the moderation team and I will discuss plagiarism issues upon my return.

I will leave this thread open for now, but I ask that any further comments be posted with the knowledge that there are talks happening.

If things start spiraling out of control, this thread may get locked. I ask for patience and for harmony While this all gets ironed out.
Title: Re: Regarding Ericard
Post by: theplottwist on April 09, 2015, 09:24:38 PM
We have solved the issue (I believe).

Ericard complied in removing the sprite out of his own will, and messaged me multiple times. I required no evidence from him, as there would be no real way to know if this was done or not, since he could simply remove it temporarily to silently add it later. I'm going with my (small) faith in humanity and agreed to not say a negative word about him anymore.

However, I'm screencapturing this thread and saving the pages themselves in my computer. In case he slips on his word, as he did before, proof will start to fly all over the internet and shit will hit the fan because "please delete this thread" seems too much like a underhanded strategy to me. He's also aware of this, as I have told this through PM to him, too.

In MY HUMBLE OPINION, the thread could be locked instead of deleted. But whatever the admin decides, is decided.

Good luck on your project, Ericard. May you learn from your mistakes and something awesome can flourish out of this.
Title: Re: Regarding Ericard
Post by: Dracula9 on April 09, 2015, 09:25:02 PM
Hey, they're talking, that's all I need to hear.

If his actions are genuine the matter's largely settled as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Regarding Ericard
Post by: Ericard on April 09, 2015, 11:05:30 PM
Yes theplottwist, this is the last to you. I like to thanks, to the sprite author, Plottwist, for the sprite that I used only temporary from before but with the replacement of other sprite that I insert, your original that I resized is now already permanently remove(no longer available). And the last thing I need a request to the admin of this forum is delete this topic and another topic of mine in fan stuff. Also, delete my account as I do not wish to be here anymore.
Title: Re: Regarding Ericard
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on April 09, 2015, 11:20:26 PM
It is good that both Ericard and theplottwist are talking.

Jorge shall deal with the deleting or locking of threads when he formally returns.

May this thread and all the events surrounding this serve as a lesson and reminder for all of us.
Title: Re: Regarding Ericard
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on April 14, 2015, 01:31:39 PM
Before locking this thread, a few words from me:

-A new Plagiarism-related rule has been added to Fan Stuff and its Contests Sub-Forum, which addresses plagiarisms and resource use.  It has been added because of the recent events.
-Ericard wanted me to clarify that since 2011 and all the way through today, he has not asked anyone to purchase his game.
-Ericard's account will be deleted.
-This thread will not be deleted, but will be locked.
-Ericard's thread in Fan Stuff will also be locked.

If anyone wants to contact Ericard regarding this issue, please do so outside of the Castlevania Dungeon Forums, as his account will not be available anymore.