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Title: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: IGAVANIA on May 02, 2015, 08:45:47 AM
Soon, I will return.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 02, 2015, 10:16:46 AM
What is the meaning of this?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 02, 2015, 10:33:48 AM
What is the meaning of this?

http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,7456.0.html (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,7456.0.html)

Probably IGA's Castlevania successor, if this isn't a fan effort.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Mooning Freddy on May 02, 2015, 10:43:45 AM
Did you say... Moon?  :D

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1000words1000days.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F06%2FHeader10.jpg&hash=bac8be9c109e6adb703be99ef5021e60)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 02, 2015, 10:44:49 AM
Um...ok I guess? :-\
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 02, 2015, 10:48:18 AM
Man, are all of you forgetting about the pentagram in that sprite? That's the same pentagram teased for IGA's Castlevania successor, teased back in September.

If that user is not pulling our chains - and there actually is evidence that this is all viral marketing - we will have another IGAvania on our hands. Hence the user's name, too!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jop on May 02, 2015, 10:54:37 AM
Iga? its really you?  ;D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 02, 2015, 10:54:58 AM
Nice, I already saw on Neogaf there was speculation this project was back on track.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Oniros on May 02, 2015, 12:11:24 PM
Soon, I will return.
Don't play with my heart. Please be real. :'(
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kamirine on May 02, 2015, 01:14:44 PM
I patiently wait for the moment I can say "Shut up and take my money!".
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 02, 2015, 03:08:31 PM
Your words are as enticing as your image. Castlevania desperately needs a savior such as you!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 02, 2015, 03:09:40 PM
Okay.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 02, 2015, 03:20:24 PM
Well, if this is the way the legecy of the CV series lives on... without Konami.... SO BE IT!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 02, 2015, 03:55:57 PM
http://www.moongiant.com/Full_Moon_New_Moon_Calendar.php (http://www.moongiant.com/Full_Moon_New_Moon_Calendar.php)

So, the full moon is on Monday? ;)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sir Nicko on May 02, 2015, 04:13:42 PM
http://www.moongiant.com/Full_Moon_New_Moon_Calendar.php (http://www.moongiant.com/Full_Moon_New_Moon_Calendar.php)

So, the full moon is on Monday? ;)

Oh man, beat me too it! Sure is! Guess we might learn more in a few days then!

First post in the dungeon in a number of years for me.... Feels good to be back! I was formerly "Soma Cruz", but got purged after several years on inactivity.

Hopefully we will have some CV-esque news to discuss soon??

I posted the pixel art on IGA's FB account by the way, asking if it was him.. Will let you all know if he says anything!

Please please please Lord let this post have some merit!!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 02, 2015, 04:45:23 PM
*Reaches for pockets*

 Next monday determinds whether I pull out a wallet or a Smith and Wesson.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 02, 2015, 05:22:47 PM
BTW, the other half of the pic was posted on the Chapel of Resonance.

http://www.chapelofresonance.com/forum/index.php?/topic/6390-the-first-sign-rises-with-the-full-moon/page__pid__217388#entry217388 (http://www.chapelofresonance.com/forum/index.php?/topic/6390-the-first-sign-rises-with-the-full-moon/page__pid__217388#entry217388)

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 02, 2015, 05:30:33 PM
W-w-w-wh-whh-WHIP!!!

As Horace Pinker said to the floating tv spirit in his death row cell, "GIVE IT TO ME!".
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 02, 2015, 05:31:36 PM
Also, just for funsies... Castlevania released in the US May 1, 1987. If this is real, the timing is not coincidental.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 02, 2015, 05:52:23 PM
Also, just for funsies... Castlevania released in the US May 1, 1987. If this is real, the timing is not coincidental.

Dayum.

D a y u m. The Twitter account mentioned in the games original teaser image went active again last night, too.

I think this is real. Or at least, I hope it is.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 02, 2015, 06:08:13 PM
Igarashi probably saw the overwhelming success of Yooka Laylee's kickstarter and thought "It's fuckin time to take back the night!"
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 02, 2015, 06:14:09 PM
Igarashi probably saw the overwhelming success of Yooka Laylee's kickstarter and thought "It's fuckin time to take back the night!"

But considering the timing of all of this? I think this was planned before Yooka Laylee, and I hope the hype for that project doesn't overlap this.

Assuming this is also being Kickstarted. In the thread on NeoGAF, an Aksys Games employee gave a very playful post. IGA may have found a publisher.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: LuxKiller65 on May 02, 2015, 06:16:49 PM
Hmmm... If you are Koji, post a picture of you doing a thumbs up with your name written on a piece of paper.

:D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 02, 2015, 06:20:16 PM
But considering the timing of all of this? I think this was planned before Yooka Laylee, and I hope the hype for that project doesn't overlap this.

Assuming this is also being Kickstarted. In the thread on NeoGAF, an Aksys Games employee gave a very playful post. IGA may have found a publisher.

Yeah it seems that people involved are going around to various forums, I saw something about the project end up on /v/ a few days ago as well but I didn't think anything of it. Something is definitely going down.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 02, 2015, 06:22:59 PM
Yeah it seems that people involved are going around to various forums, I saw something about the project end up on /v/ a few days ago as well but I didn't think anything of it. Something is definitely going down.

Could you elaborate on this thing with /v/?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 02, 2015, 06:28:51 PM
Could you elaborate on this thing with /v/?

The same ad from September was posted, it was just weird how it was just brought up. It was probably nothing though.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 02, 2015, 06:29:20 PM
Please, oh please, oh please be real, IGAvania. If not, then you're going to shatter a lot of our hearts. And i'm not sure if we can stand anymore heartbreak as it is. ;_;
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 02, 2015, 06:30:58 PM
@Beingthehero Oddly enough, that gif is how im feeling right now.  ;D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 02, 2015, 06:31:59 PM
The same ad from September was posted, it was just weird how it was just brought up. It was probably nothing though.

If it was today, that was me. I was curious if /v/ was hyped, and I got next to no replies. :P
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 02, 2015, 06:39:02 PM
If it is real, maybe some of the Konami peeps (old SOTN team) can get on this project. I would be interested to see Iga make a game where Konami was not overseeing it.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 02, 2015, 07:10:32 PM
I wonder what happened to a lot of those guys. The last time the SotN team was together was Harmony of Dissonance, though Takeda Takashi did go on to direct both the PS2 games. The DS games were made by the AoS team (with Circle of the Moon's producer, KO-G, doing some map designs). I remember IGA saying that he'd need to get a lot of people together for a new Metroidvania, since of course it wasn't him alone. I guess that means we're gonna need Curry The Kid, since his name popped up in just about every Castlevania since Aria.

And of course Yamane (or Yuzo Koshiro) and Kojima (or Hirooka Masaki).
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Little Dracula on May 02, 2015, 07:46:35 PM
So maybe something will happen on monday?.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sir Nicko on May 02, 2015, 08:09:02 PM
In case everyone's not totally up to speed, I wanted to forward an excellent synopsis post by Foffy over on the NeoGAF forums:

I think a synopsis is in order, seeing as I see a few users a little kerfuffled here, and being the 'vania mark I am, I will try and quickly summarize.

- Back in September of last year, this image(http://i.imgur.com/2skhMvu.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/2skhMvu.jpg) was teased at PAX, and the kind of details from the image give the vibe of one of Koji Igarashi's games.
- The runes in the pentagram imply the words "What A Wonderful Night To Have a KS", with KS assuming KickStarter.
- Koji Igarashi puts his dream game - assumingly this - on hold, back in September, with a KickStarter never seeing the light of day. Presumably, the project is dead.
- On May 1st, Quarterwoman, a Twitter account referenced on the back of that original teaser, posts tweets (https://twitter.com/Quarterwomann (https://twitter.com/Quarterwomann)) all of a sudden, referencing elements from the original teaser, such as the pentagram, the moon, and the reference to 'gold and lead'; a key element, as the character of the game apparently is an alchemist.
- Also on May 1st, an image split into two images was posted on two Castlevania fan forums, the Castlevania Dungeon, and Chapel of Resonance. The user, going by the name IGAVANIA, posts the following quote:
The first sign rises with the full moon.
Soon, I will return.
- Combining the two images, it reveals the original pentagram back in September, complete with a sword on the leftmost image, and a whip on the rightmost image.
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FiUfLVAS.jpg&hash=fa78cd285fb19b6d0c6bd07915f46875)
- May 1st was the original release date for Castlevania in North America.
- The next full moon is on Monday, May 4th.


This is the story so far, and I hope it gives users a fuller picture of the scenario here. Some of this may be coincidental, but the timing seems awfully odd for all of this to be the work of one fan.


My body is ready. Seriously, IGA, if you're behind this, I'm so ready to give you tons of my money to make what ever dream you have a reality.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 02, 2015, 08:21:05 PM
I'm also here, and according to the active user list, so is IGAVANIA.

Hello, friend.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: angevil on May 02, 2015, 08:23:50 PM
I am also ready to back the kickstarter project! It better not be a work of fan because I also cannot bear more disappointments with Castlevania. If this is a fan toying with us, it is very cruel. If it is IGA for real, it would be a dream come true!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 02, 2015, 08:25:59 PM
I wonder what happened to a lot of those guys. The last time the SotN team was together was Harmony of Dissonance, though Takeda Takashi did go on to direct both the PS2 games. The DS games were made by the AoS team (with Circle of the Moon's producer, KO-G, doing some map designs). I remember IGA saying that he'd need to get a lot of people together for a new Metroidvania, since of course it wasn't him alone. I guess that means we're gonna need Curry The Kid, since his name popped up in just about every Castlevania since Aria.

And of course Yamane (or Yuzo Koshiro) and Kojima (or Hirooka Masaki).

hero *glomps* But yeah, I'd like to see the 'old gang' back too. :o
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sir Nicko on May 02, 2015, 08:27:49 PM
Oh hey Foffy! Thanks for helping guide the discussion! I'm right there with you... I feel like we could be witnessing the return of a long lost but magnificence saga!

Hello IGAVANIA, welcome to the dungeon  ;)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 02, 2015, 10:29:48 PM
This is interesting. Please let this game be real.

@Sir Nicko: IGAVANIA is Quarterwomann based on the email address used to register here.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 02, 2015, 10:41:24 PM
This is interesting. Please let this game be real.

@Sir Nicko: IGAVANIA is Quarterwomann based on the email address used to register here.

Oh my Gooooood. So this really is related to the PAX tease, not a fan aping the idea to create artificial hype.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 02, 2015, 11:02:31 PM
Jig is up Quarterwomann, dish the dirt and we'll promise we'll keep it a pile of secrets till Monday. ;D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 02, 2015, 11:46:09 PM
Stop teasing, announce something already. Don't feed the hype, we're already hyped.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: St.Tweeter on May 03, 2015, 12:04:16 AM
So many eyes are on this place right now. Hehehehe.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sir Nicko on May 03, 2015, 12:10:11 AM
This is interesting. Please let this game be real.

@Sir Nicko: IGAVANIA is Quarterwomann based on the email address used to register here.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm positively over the moon with all these hints. I've been dying for any sort of true CV successor for years now.. Getting tired of replaying my DS games.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 03, 2015, 12:41:58 AM
Three or four heart attacks were had  :o :o
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 03, 2015, 12:46:19 AM
WOW!  This is awesome news I really hope is a new Castlevania game from IGA. Please le the dream come true.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Intersection on May 03, 2015, 12:47:40 AM
Damn, I've been waiting for this for too long.

If this turns out to be a hoax, I swear I'll find someone to strangle.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 03, 2015, 12:51:17 AM
If this is real, I wouldn't be surprised if Ayami and Michiru are involved too. IGA, for all his shortcomings, seems very aware of his fanbase and what they expect from a new game. I will back it, for sure. I was tired of the metroidvania formula before, but now it's been so many years since Ecclesia. My body is READY.

I just hope all fans put their money where their mouths are, and back this.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: VladCT on May 03, 2015, 12:52:35 AM
Am I the only one who's still skeptical here? :V
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 03, 2015, 12:54:03 AM
Am I the only one who's still skeptical here? :V

Nope, I am too. Being sceptical is only healthy at this point. We shall see what happens next, if anything!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 03, 2015, 01:00:16 AM
Latest from Quarterwomann:

https://twitter.com/Quarterwomann/status/594768145711140867
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Little Dracula on May 03, 2015, 01:10:01 AM
Interesting, so maybe they will announce the KS on monday but the actual KS campaign will start later?.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 03, 2015, 01:12:18 AM
What is making me more and more upset is that IGAVANIA is here, reading all of this, and doesn't say a SINGLE WORD  :'(
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 03, 2015, 01:12:48 AM
Am I the only one who's still skeptical here? :V
Still not sold as well. Who is behind that Twitter account?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 03, 2015, 01:24:39 AM
I also am skeptical.
I am patient, I can wait.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 03, 2015, 03:59:12 AM
Still not sold as well. Who is behind that Twitter account?

Quarterwomann works for (or is affiliated with) 8-4 , who helpled launched the Kickstarter for Mighty No.9.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dracula9 on May 03, 2015, 04:16:13 AM
To be perfectly honest, this has been too well-timed and well-executed for me to lean more towards skepticism. A fan trying to stir something up likely wouldn't have the obvious logistic and planning behind all this.

I mean, posting two halves of the same whole on two of the most prominent (if not THE most prominent, even though the Chapel's dead as disco) Castlevania boards on the net? That's no accident, that's clever marketing.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Little Dracula on May 03, 2015, 05:19:46 AM
 Sword or Whip @SwordOrWhip  ·  Apr 30

Sword... or Whip...? Choose one. Your decision matters not.


Quarterwomann is following him.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 03, 2015, 05:26:31 AM
Interesting, so this game is looking to have multiple characters like Bloodlines maybe?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: KaZudra on May 03, 2015, 06:09:13 AM
Let's do this, only one request, PC version too plz, I still wanna play my new 'Vania 20 years later on a laptop. (I still play Doom, 20 years later)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Maedhros on May 03, 2015, 06:38:48 AM
B-but guys... I thought it was dead... I did even accepted.

D-don't play with my heart like that... T_T
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 03, 2015, 07:08:10 AM
Oh well, 1 day more to learn if this true or not. If true, then i'll find another reason to be more active here, but if not, then the shadows will devour me...........
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 03, 2015, 07:34:21 AM
Something about CV: The Twin Moons fan project? At least that's what I get from this...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 03, 2015, 08:09:15 AM
Wow this topic is gaining comments fast.....just don't want people to get there hopes up to much, I'm already seeing many around the web jump with glee and excitement.

Don't get me wrong I want this to be true sooooooooooo bad, its well known I'm a big IGA fan around here, but this IGAvANIA guy could very much be a fan trying to get a rise out of the community and troll the CV fanbase since its pretty well known that the Castlevania fanbase has felt pretty neglected and anxious in the Castlevania games news department.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 03, 2015, 08:17:35 AM
Wow this topic is gaining comments fast.....just don't want people to get there hopes up to much, I'm already seeing many around the web jump with glee and excitement.

Don't get me wrong I want this to be true sooooooooooo bad, its well known I'm a big IGA fan around here, but this IGAvANIA guy could very much be a fan trying to get a rise out of the community and troll the CV fanbase since its pretty well known that the Castlevania fanbase has felt pretty neglected and anxious in the Castlevania games news department.

 Shiroi Koumori verified that the the email IGAVANIA was using was the same as Quarterwomann, who had a hand in the September teaser at PAX. So unless this is a cruel, sick joke to crush the Castlevania fanbases souls even more than it already has, this thing is happening.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 03, 2015, 08:48:42 AM
Shiroi Koumori verified that the the email IGAVANIA was using was the same as Quarterwomann, who had a hand in the September teaser at PAX. So unless this is a cruel, sick joke to crush the Castlevania fanbases souls even more than it already has, this thing is happening.

This. This goes all the way back to the PAX event where this was teased. And seeing as IGA put his dream project on hold that same month, the project in question never got a crowdfunding event.

Put two and two together: this project is very likely the work of Koji Igarashi. It vanished when he put what he was doing on hold, only until recently. And consider the timing of it, that all of this starts to happen and resurface on the 28th anniversary of the release of the original Castlevania in North America.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 03, 2015, 08:57:23 AM
I remain hopefully skeptic. If it is real, then as long as we get a whip-slinger I am in.

I have always been very vocal that I did not always like every Iga game, however, he is very capable of a great game and I think the Konami powers that be forced some of the odd decisions. Like I said, if he has full control I am in.

That said, if this is a hoax I will be slightly surprised due to the timing and the way things are lining up. Here's to hoping for some good gaming news for once. We need it.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Belmontoya on May 03, 2015, 09:05:31 AM
Interesting...

I can't wait to see how this plays out!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: X on May 03, 2015, 09:11:39 AM
I am also skeptical. If this game gets a release then I'll buy it. If this is a hoax then its back to square 1 for us.

PS. Welcome to the dungeon IGAVANIA. Please don't tease the fanbase..?  :)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: deadsanto123 on May 03, 2015, 10:19:14 AM
If this is real... holy shit
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: FlyingMudBlock on May 03, 2015, 11:41:00 AM
I don't know guys...
if this is real then i hope it's not on KickStarter, because if it's on that thing...
then there's a 95.9% chance we are bound to have an SJW in the dev team or as Community Mananger.
and then in the end you will have a Liberal or Feminazi propaganda instead of a game, or with GOOD luck... a mediocre game.
so my advice is...
Hold your "Hype horses", be a little patient and investigate very well before throwing any money at it.
i know this is what you guys wanted a long time but look at megaman fans as a good example of what i'm telling, full hype super sayan, threw money like crazy and big promises from the dev team, look at them in the end...

crappy game, feminazi SJW happy.
so, like i said... if this is real, but i mean IF, then be extra extra carefull and do some very deep investigation on the dev team and more before throwing any money at all, even if it's IGA himself.

that's all folks.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 03, 2015, 11:46:03 AM
I hope hope hope hope something comes of this. PC please!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 03, 2015, 11:47:02 AM
I don't know guys...
if this is real then i hope it's not on KickStarter, because if it's on that thing...
then there's a 95.9% chance we are bound to have an SJW in the dev team or as Community Mananger.
and then in the end you will have a Liberal or Feminazi propaganda instead of a game, or with GOOD luck... a mediocre game.
so my advice is...
Hold your "Hype horses", be a little patient and investigate very well before throwing any money at it.
i know this is what you guys wanted a long time but look at megaman fans as a good example of what i'm telling, full hype super sayan, threw money like crazy and big promises from the dev team, look at them in the end...

crappy game, feminazi SJW happy.
so, like i said... if this is real, but i mean IF, then be extra extra carefull and do some very deep investigation on the dev team and more before throwing any money at all, even if it's IGA himself.

that's all folks.

Please do not bring that bs here. (https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thecoli.com%2Fstyles%2Fdefault%2Fxenforo%2Fsmilies%2Fcamby.png&hash=52e7879388ea8c475117f4b0d583f22f)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 03, 2015, 11:48:39 AM
*tries very hard to ignore the troll that just appeared. Must. Not. Feed. It*

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 03, 2015, 11:50:29 AM
I don't know guys...
if this is real then i hope it's not on KickStarter, because if it's on that thing...
then there's a 95.9% chance we are bound to have an SJW in the dev team or as Community Mananger.
and then in the end you will have a Liberal or Feminazi propaganda instead of a game, or with GOOD luck... a mediocre game.
so my advice is...
Hold your "Hype horses", be a little patient and investigate very well before throwing any money at it.
i know this is what you guys wanted a long time but look at megaman fans as a good example of what i'm telling, full hype super sayan, threw money like crazy and big promises from the dev team, look at them in the end...

crappy game, feminazi SJW happy.
so, like i said... if this is real, but i mean IF, then be extra extra carefull and do some very deep investigation on the dev team and more before throwing any money at all, even if it's IGA himself.

that's all folks.

(https://38.media.tumblr.com/ff10a2b1266e15dceda2865d2d67a557/tumblr_nnbcto0Q4R1rbvrzco1_400.gif)

Do not make assumptions before we know who's even involved. All we know is this is IGA's game, and the 8-4 guys are promoting it. We don't know who he's gotten to develop the game, or even if the likes of Michiru Yamane is on board.

Take it easy, mang.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 03, 2015, 11:57:37 AM
I'm super hyped, and I do not care about being "skeptical" or not here if it doesn't come out well then we are back where we were anyways, if it does, HELL YES.

As for putting demands on the publisher to make the game that you specifically want, and jumping to conclusions w scare tactics and dog whistles, GTFO.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: FlyingMudBlock on May 03, 2015, 12:08:45 PM
WOW!!...
all the half agressive comments and the memes, don't worry guys, i'm not a GaymerGate supporter here.
and i'm not demanding for mad stuff or anything like that, just friendly advice so in the future no one ends up hurt or joining crazy political movements and stuff.
so... take that advice as you wish, for me is just a friendly advice, not GG propaganda.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Maedhros on May 03, 2015, 12:21:48 PM
I don't know guys...
if this is real then i hope it's not on KickStarter, because if it's on that thing...
then there's a 95.9% chance we are bound to have an SJW in the dev team or as Community Mananger.
and then in the end you will have a Liberal or Feminazi propaganda instead of a game, or with GOOD luck... a mediocre game.
so my advice is...
Hold your "Hype horses", be a little patient and investigate very well before throwing any money at it.
i know this is what you guys wanted a long time but look at megaman fans as a good example of what i'm telling, full hype super sayan, threw money like crazy and big promises from the dev team, look at them in the end...

crappy game, feminazi SJW happy.
so, like i said... if this is real, but i mean IF, then be extra extra carefull and do some very deep investigation on the dev team and more before throwing any money at all, even if it's IGA himself.

that's all folks.

THE FUCK you're talking about? Are you high or some shit?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 03, 2015, 12:24:25 PM
A heads up to everyone. We're not going to have that kind of discussion in this thread and I will remove any further posts concerning that topic. Please carry on.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 03, 2015, 12:29:27 PM
So do you guys think there will be an announcement tomorrow because of the full moon?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Rugal on May 03, 2015, 12:30:27 PM
You're all way too gullible. I hope I am wrong.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 03, 2015, 12:42:34 PM
So do you guys think there will be an announcement tomorrow because of the full moon?

Whatever happens , there will be tears, be it bloody or otherwise.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Ratty on May 03, 2015, 01:38:12 PM
I missed this yesterday, I'll be pleasantly surprised if this turns out to be real.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 03, 2015, 01:40:27 PM
So if there is a game about an alchemist that could open entirely new styles of gameplay. Maybe you are travelling around the European country-side in search of rare metals to use in your quest to find the Philosopher's Stone. Maybe each area has a hub where you save your game and can partake in alchemical experiments, crafting magical talismans or melee weapons using raw materials you have found. Or you use alchemy to level up yourself rather than your equipment. Maybe you explore mines and mysterious caverns, and the plundering of natural resources has awakened ancient horrors living beneath the Earth. There is a lot you can do with the basic concept of alchemy.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 03, 2015, 01:47:33 PM
Soo, if this turns out to be a kickstarter (and I don't see it being anything else at this point), here are some stretch goals I personally would like to see!

- Separate or combined stretch goals for various platforms, most preferably 3DS and Vita.
- Physical release for various platforms. This is not very likely but I can dream, can't I?
- Additional composers, such as Kinuyo Yamashita. This obviously depends on who the composer already on board is. I'm thinking Michiru Yamane is the most likely one, so this stretch goal could add a few classic ones from CV past.
- Boss Rush mode. Always a nice addition.
- An inverted game world! This depends on how the game is designed of course, but as a nod to SotN, and if it's technically possible, I think an inverted castle/world would be pretty awesome.
- An unlockable/hidden playable Belmont! This depends 100% on what IGA is allowed to do. Konami can't "own" a surname, can they?
- Remixed Castlevania music. I'm sure this is NOT gonna happen, but it would be great.
- Online mode, maybe similar to Harmony of Despair. This is my least wanted stretch goal, but I'm sure it could make some people happy?

Sooo, what are your hopes for this?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 03, 2015, 02:09:07 PM
Since we don't know exactly what the game has to offer yet this is what I would like to see:

Obviously a boss rush mode would be sweet
Hidden bosses
New game+
Extra dungeon ala inverted castle
8 Bit arranged soundtrack mode
Soundtrack release
Stretch goals for current gen console release as well as handheld, hell even a mobile version
Special guest star character similar to how Yatch Club games used fan created characters for Shovel Knight

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 03, 2015, 02:40:39 PM
Hmmmm.......let's see.....:

Hidden bosses and hidden areas would be cool for me.
Multi ending
Unlockable character/characters
I wouldn't mind bringing back a similar stage world map system from OoE
Also a fighting combo system, similar to the martial arts that Nathan was using on CotM, but using combined weapon attacks!
A soundtrack that's sounds like the ost from LoD

That's all i can thing for now.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jop on May 03, 2015, 03:59:58 PM
I only want a new game.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 03, 2015, 05:40:02 PM
Geez, I didn't know the mythology about this ran so deep, whatever the outcome that is some seriously smart marketing ploy.

On a personal note, I don't think this is IGA at all, I mean why would he even bother posting on The Chapel or Dungeon's forum's. As much as I love our fan forum I think we might be giving ourselves too much credit.

I mean, after 25 years of Castlevania he's never been that intimate with forums like this.

Another thing I noticed was the graphical style of these sprites, I mean look at SOTN, no offense but these seem a step backwards in that regard. I think if IGA was to make another game the graphical style "with a traditional Belmont take on the hero or not" would closer resemble the art style of that game.

But, alas I could be wrong.

All in all I am just hope this is a fun game!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 03, 2015, 05:56:08 PM
Geez, I didn't know the mythology about this ran so deep, whatever the outcome that is some seriously smart marketing ploy.

On a personal note, I don't think this is IGA at all, I mean why would he even bother posting on The Chapel or Dungeon's forum's. As much as I love our fan forum I think we might be giving ourselves too much credit.

I mean, after 25 years of Castlevania he's never been that intimate with forums like this.

Another thing I noticed was the graphical style of these sprites, I mean look at SOTN, no offense but these seem a step backwards in that regard. I think if IGA was to make another game the graphical style "with a traditional Belmont take on the hero or not" would closer resemble the art style of that game.

But, alas I could be wrong.

All in all I am just hope this is a fun game!

It's not IGA, but someone involved in marketing the game. I would imagine an 8-4/Ex-EGM guy.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 03, 2015, 06:06:28 PM
It's not IGA, but someone involved in marketing the game. I would imagine an 8-4/Ex-EGM guy.

Maybe. (Crosses fingers and toes)

One can dream, if it is true I am more concerned on what liberties that they have to take now to continue the IGA timeline while doing all the fan-service and all.

It's also interesting what is happening to Konami now in the video game industry.

I mean would the team be able to even do anything Belmont or Țepeș related?

Maybe this game takes place centuries into the future or something?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 03, 2015, 06:19:37 PM
Another thing I noticed was the graphical style of these sprites, I mean look at SOTN, no offense but these seem a step backwards in that regard. I think if IGA was to make another game the graphical style "with a traditional Belmont take on the hero or not" would closer resemble the art style of that game.

I was going to coment on this, but I really didn't want to sound negative, but I agree.

These may be only a small glimpse of what is to come, but this already tells lot about the spritework itself. It's indeed inferior to SotN's standards, but well... The point may be that they are not even aiming at these standards at all. They could be aiming at an original visual identity.

It looks like, to me, that they are replicating an arcade style of sorts for the gfx. It doesn't look bad, of course. But it doesn't look very... "Pro" if you know what I mean.

But I'm most likely jumping to conclusions here :P
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 03, 2015, 06:21:25 PM
Maybe. (Crosses fingers and toes)

One can dream, if it is true I am more concerned on what liberties that they have to take now to continue the IGA timeline while doing all the fan-service and all.

It's also interesting what is happening to Konami now in the video game industry.

I mean would the team be able to even do anything Belmont or Țepeș related?

Maybe this game takes place centuries into the future or something?

I don't see this game having anything to do with Castlevania at all, aside from nods and easter eggs. So, no going back to any old timeline. Though I guess it could have Dracula as a villain. Konami doesn't own Dracula. And it could theoretically have a character named Belmont, but the more elements that are added into the mix, the more problematic it would become. While Konami don't "own" the individual parts, adding them all together would probably be considered trademark infringement. IGA must thread carefully here.

Besides, IGA most likely wants to do his own thing now. He will create a game that pleases the fans of IGAvania gameplay, theme, atmosphere and such, without actually making a Castlevania game.

Fans who were only interested in the Belmonts, Dracula, the vampire killer and the timeline may not be happy with whatever this becomes. As for the rest of us, it's the gameplay, the exploration and the gothic horror theme that made IGAs Castlevania worth playing to begin with. I am at absolute peace with the fact that the rest will be brand new.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Maedhros on May 03, 2015, 06:28:46 PM
You guys are seriously jumping to conclusions.

The sprites shown are not really final or something you can drawn ANY conclusions at all.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 03, 2015, 06:30:28 PM
I don't see this game having anything to do with Castlevania at all, aside from nods and easter eggs. So, no going back to any old timeline. Though I guess it could have Dracula as a villain. Konami doesn't own Dracula. And it could theoretically have a character named Belmont, but the more elements that are added into the mix, the more problematic it would become. While Konami don't "own" the individual parts, adding them all together would probably be considered trademark infringement. IGA must thread carefully here.

Besides, IGA most likely wants to do his own thing now. He will create a game that pleases the fans of IGAvania gameplay, theme, atmosphere and such, without actually making a Castlevania game.

Fans who were only interested in the Belmonts, Dracula, the vampire killer and the timeline may not be happy with whatever this becomes. As for the rest of us, it's the gameplay, the exploration and the gothic horror theme that made IGAs Castlevania worth playing to begin with. I am at absolute peace with the fact that the rest will be brand new.

You guys are seriously jumping to conclusions.

The sprites shown are not really final or something you can drawn ANY conclusions at all.

Maybe. just stating the obvious when talking about spiritual successors to SOTN. I do know many games after that point were on limited budgets hense all the recycled graphics, but I mean look at those graphics;

iPhone CASTLEVANIA NEW PUZZLE GAME! Reviewed by Dracula (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9I5Qdvu1vo#ws)

It would seem odd for me for them to go with the graphical style in the teaser, I mean even in the original PAX screenshots (they were small) they looked top notch!
I don't mind a side story or two as long as the gameplay is on point. I am also cool with the possible brand new plot aspect. I think that will ensure we get some closure in the the storyline if this does well. I am all for SOTN, but remember I am a Generation 1 Castlevania fan and I love that old action style. Are we all forgetting about Super Castlevania 4? We need a evolution of that game!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Maedhros on May 03, 2015, 06:31:51 PM
I don't mind a side story or two as long as the gameplay is on point. I am also cool with the possible brand new plot aspect. I think that will ensure we get some closure in the the storyline if this does well. I am all for SOTN, but remember I am a Generation 1 Castlevania fan and I love that old action style. Are we all forgetting about Super Castlevania 4? We need a evolution of that game!
I don't really like that game. I prefer if they made something more akin to Dracula X or Castlevania 3.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 03, 2015, 06:34:45 PM
I don't mind a side story or two as long as the gameplay is on point. I am also cool with the possible brand new plot aspect. I think that will ensure we get some closure in the the storyline if this does well. I am all for SOTN, but remember I am a Generation 1 Castlevania fan and I love that old action style. Are we all forgetting about Super Castlevania 4? We need a evolution of that game!

Konami does not care about the original canon. This is the same company that wanted to distance the series of the "effeminate" work of Michiru Yamane by personally requesting that the Lords of Shadow trilogy have "dark" music. They would rather literally make the franchise some AAA superstar, and that was against everything the series stood for since 1986.

You will at best get easter eggs and nods to IGA's fictional universe of Castlevania in IGA's new game; the whip is one such obvious thing. But an end and a new game in his canon? Probably not. Konami would rather let the series burn at this rate, as they're doing with all of their IPs, Metal Gear included.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 03, 2015, 06:40:44 PM
Konami does not care about the original canon. This is the same company that wanted to get distance the series of the "effeminate" work of Michiru Yamane by personally requesting that the Lords of Shadow trilogy have "dark" music. They would literally make the franchise some AAA superstar, and that was against everything the series stood for since 1986.

You will at best get easter eggs and nods to IGA's fictional universe of Castlevania in IGA's new game; the whip is one such obvious thing. But an end and a new game in his canon? Probably not. Konami would rather let the series burn at this rate, as they're doing with all of their IPs, Metal Gear included.

Yeah, its a damn shame what is happening within Konami as regards to being a video gaming entity.

Would the IGA team have liberties to go back to exploring that Bloodline/Stoker's timeline? I mean the Bram Stoker mythology has nothing to do with the Konami IP. That would work.

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 03, 2015, 06:41:10 PM
You guys are seriously jumping to conclusions.

The sprites shown are not really final or something you can drawn ANY conclusions at all.

How do you know they are not final?

I admit I may have jumped to conclusions, but as an artist I indeed see where this is going just by seeing the stone pillar and the whip if the work is final. And that's what I mean.

This is all we have to work with right now, so I'm commenting on it, and it did jump on my eye that the overall quality of these sprites are inferior to latest 2D Castlevania ones. "Inferior" in this case being used quite loosely, as I still like them alot. Inferior doesn't mean "bad".

But again, this may be jumping on conclusions indeed!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 03, 2015, 07:12:07 PM
And whose to say what it might with a successful Kickstarter.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 03, 2015, 07:30:01 PM
It is very silly to judge a game that hasn't been made or even started to be made based on one pre-pre-pre-beta image.

Don't think he will go back to Castlevania story, but an entirely new IP, so that if successful, he reaps the benefits and can build from there. It is crazy he has been stuck in the handheld gutter for almost 20 years with the indie environment now is the perfect time for some console Iga.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 03, 2015, 07:37:17 PM
I agree that it is early to draw conclusions. I will say however, IF this is real, I hope it is sprite based. Preferably HD sprites. I want that charm. 2.5d is overrated.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 03, 2015, 07:42:59 PM
Im surprised no one has brought up the biggest silver lining about this if it's real:

New sprites! :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 03, 2015, 08:15:13 PM
Holy shit youre right! Now I want this to be real more than before.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Oniros on May 03, 2015, 08:23:04 PM
Whatever happens I just want a new IP. Dracula and Castlevania are better off dead than tossed around the way Silent Hill was for so long. If IGA is going to start anew I wanna see a new story with new protagonists unfold.

Except Shanoa, she can be back for his new game. :P
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 03, 2015, 09:47:35 PM
I swear if this is some sort of joke...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 03, 2015, 10:12:43 PM
... If this is a grand hoax, some people here would flip.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 03, 2015, 10:14:48 PM
... If this is a grand hoax, some people here would flip.

Quite the understatement.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dracula9 on May 03, 2015, 10:30:35 PM
I have to say, in regards to the "it's not SotN quality so it's bad" kinda mindset, when did SotN suddenly become THE spriting standard of the universe? It's good, no contesting that, but you'd think everything before and after is invalidated by its quality and anything less somehow ruins everything else about the rest of the game, with how much this mindset gets tossed around.

I also think it says a lot about the fandom that a third of us are varying degrees of hyped or anxious, another third is calling that third gullible/easily excited or calling for skepticism, and the final third has become so jaded about the series that even a direct confirmation announcement wouldn't please them, about all of this.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: VladCT on May 03, 2015, 10:32:22 PM
To be honest, my skepticism is more of a defense mechanism at this point. After all, once bitten twice shy.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Koutei on May 03, 2015, 10:43:11 PM
I prepare this word for that case.

Quote from: Nagumo on March 4, 2013
Liar, liar, pants on fire! : p
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 03, 2015, 10:50:40 PM
@D9: We old folks have gone through hype and back again several times.
I shall remain skeptic until the announcement is real. Same case as VladCT.

And if it's not, Koutei's quote of Nagumo would be a good start.

Either way, we still have to wait until the full moon is over.
Now, which time zone are we talking about?  ;)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 03, 2015, 10:53:16 PM
If it's a hoax I'll be disappointed but not surprised. I do however think that it could very well be true! The only thing that's holding my enthusiasm back is the fact that it wasn't long ago that IGA said that the project had been put on hold. It seems kinda sudden if it pops up now. He must've been working a bit on it in secret if that's the case? Though maybe he just veeery recently got a couple of people on board and decided to go ahead with it anyway. If this turns out to be an actual game I think it will be AT LEAST a year until release, possibly more. I highly doubt they have been able to do much, if any, real work on it.

But in order to do a succesful a Kickstarter you need to have at least something to show. IGA may get the most passionate fans on board by just putting his name out there, but it takes more to convince others. IGA is not Inafune, after all.

Though there were those screenshot from the flyer, obviously. They were either taken from some kind of prototype or they're nothing more than concept graphics.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Little Dracula on May 03, 2015, 11:03:58 PM
but it takes more to convince others. IGA is not Inafune, after all.

I agree with you, if they launch a KS campaign like the one for Mighty no.9, basically showing nothing but concept art, probably the end result will be not as successful but it will be funded for sure.

Is already 3PM in Japan, I wonder if this supposed announcement is going to be done taking into account JST or USA time.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dracula9 on May 03, 2015, 11:06:06 PM
@D9: We old folks have gone through hype and back again several times.
I shall remain skeptic until the announcement is real. Same case as VladCT.

I know. It's not just you guys. Newer fans get excited and get called gullible by the older fans who were once no different, that seems a bit of a cruel irony to me.

This of course isn't to say I'm not skeptical, but the evidence to support this possibility seems fairly reasonable, I think. I wouldn't be surprised if it wound up being a cleverly-marketed fanwork (not sure how, considering it tends to be difficult to use someone else's email practically) or gets revoked by the big dogs yet again, but I'm certainly not adamant that either is the case regardless.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 03, 2015, 11:14:38 PM
@Little Dracula: If the US folks are handling the announcement, it will most likely be on PST.

@D9: Well, that's basically called life. We gain experience as we grow older. Calling others gullible comes from a place of wisdom hoping to spare the young ones from disappointment if and when it happens. Of course no one listens and the cycle begins anew. hahaha.

And this forum topic is gaining a lot of activity. Even from anonymous bots/people.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dracula9 on May 03, 2015, 11:17:50 PM
I dunno, I'm sure there are folks out there who harp on younger generations just for the sake of it.

Either way, though, whoever's actually pulling these strings has done their job and done it well; for better or worse, we're all talking about it. Even the amount of online members at this time of night is way over what it usually is.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: GuyStarwind on May 03, 2015, 11:35:18 PM
Ok I haven't been here for a few days and I have no idea what this is about. Someone fill me in please
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 03, 2015, 11:40:21 PM
To be honest, my skepticism is more of a defense mechanism at this point. After all, once bitten twice shy.

I understand concern, but seeing as IGAVANIA has been linked to the Quarterwomann account, which was linked to the original tease in September, this is very likely legit. This is not some wishy-washy journalist making claims, like how Mirror of Fate was to be led by IGA and his Castlevania team; this is linked to the same bunch of folks that helped market and promote Mighty No. 9.

The reveal of the game seems to be planned on some level for Monday the 4th, at least by limiting it to EST and PST. I do not believe it's all going to be one instant fire of a game name and even a crowdfunding move, but a slow tease until a later time. Potentially the 11th, if the tweet by Jonathan Holmes on a KickStarter game is in fact this project.

https://twitter.com/TronKnotts/status/594689137023787010 (https://twitter.com/TronKnotts/status/594689137023787010)

Couple this with Quarterwomann's most recent tweet which also implies a trickle down: Lots to report, but one thing Your Qrrespondent can't nail down is the timing—what arrives with the moon, and what comes later?. https://twitter.com/Quarterwomann/status/594768145711140867 (https://twitter.com/Quarterwomann/status/594768145711140867)

Ok I haven't been here for a few days and I have no idea what this is about. Someone fill me in please

I made a thread on NeoGAF that attempts to summarize the current confirmed events. Hopefully it'll help you out.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1039738&highlight= (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1039738&highlight=)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: X on May 03, 2015, 11:48:39 PM
Quote
I dunno, I'm sure there are folks out there who harp on younger generations just for the sake of it.

This is unfortunately true. A great lack of wisdom on their part. But by doing so they risk making their beds out of broken glass, rusty nails and razor wire. In short; Karmic retribution for dishonorable behavior and a lack of tolerance to the next gen. Everyone was that young once so I really can't see why they don't understand or sympathize the younger crowd.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 03, 2015, 11:54:01 PM
This is unfortunately true. A great lack of wisdom on their part. But by doing so they risk making their beds out of broken glass, rusty nails and razor wire. In short; Karmic retribution for dishonorable behavior and a lack of tolerance to the next gen. Everyone was that young once so I really can't see why they don't understand or sympathize the younger crowd.

I call that ego-tripping.
I believe those people who love doing that are not supposed to be considered as adults. They are still living in the playground mentality.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 04, 2015, 01:25:39 AM
No lie, some skepticism lies within me as well. It would be awesome to play another Metroidvania in the vein of the pre-HD Castlevania games, but there's really not a lot to go on here. I won't hold my breath for it, but it doesn't hurt to hope, does it?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: uzo on May 04, 2015, 04:00:21 AM
I see the vigor and magic returning to our community. Even just the thought of a new IGA game was all we needed.

And if this is all true... My wallet is READY.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dracula9 on May 04, 2015, 04:02:50 AM
Wondering when the obligatory IGA fanboys joke is gonna get made. :P

Yeah, it's nice that we're all perking up after so long. For good or bad, this thing's roused us.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 04, 2015, 04:15:07 AM
The style may be in the same vein as Shovel Knight, hence the low-color sprites.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 04, 2015, 05:32:43 AM
Taking this all with a large grain of salt.

However, I would be most ecstatic if IGA's project were back on track. I was as disappointed as the rest of you when I heard of its shelving.

I guess we'll see.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/05/rumournkoji_igarashis_castlevania_successor_could_rise_from_the_grave_this_week (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/05/rumournkoji_igarashis_castlevania_successor_could_rise_from_the_grave_this_week)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 04, 2015, 06:12:02 AM
Taking this all with a large grain of salt.

However, I would be most ecstatic if IGA's project were back on track. I was as disappointed as the rest of you when I heard of its shelving.

I guess we'll see.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/05/rumournkoji_igarashis_castlevania_successor_could_rise_from_the_grave_this_week (http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/05/rumournkoji_igarashis_castlevania_successor_could_rise_from_the_grave_this_week)

Amusing to see a site that is probably making money for that article literally attempt to paraphrase everything I said in the NeoGAF thread. :P

While paraphrased, all of that checks out. Something ought to surface today, that much is assured. I just hope it's something of substance and not more teasing.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 04, 2015, 06:59:41 AM
Whatever they do, make the game available on different consoles and PC. Please, thanks.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: whitedragon_nall on May 04, 2015, 07:20:24 AM
Haven't posted here in forever, but this thing has me hyped! Can't wait!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 07:53:29 AM
I saw this thread the other day and didn't think anything of it, but now it sounds like something is definitely happening very soon.

First Yooka-Laylee, and now this? What a time to love video games.

Seeing the sword and whip makes me think you choose a main weapon and your progression will vary depending on what weapon you pick. I can see the sword being for beginners, and the whip for experts. Or maybe it's all based on preference, which would be really neat.

I'm very interested in seeing some new sprites too, I wonder if IGA was able to snatch some old dev team members from the DS games to help with this.

If we find out Michiru Yamane is back too I'll be over the moon.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 04, 2015, 08:25:35 AM
I think Yamane is a given, if this is a real thing. Unless she's busy elsewhere.
I am curious to see if Ayami Kojima will do some art. It would be extremely cool. The IGA/Yamane/Kojima team was very special to me, and a reunion without Konami hovering would be so sweet.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 04, 2015, 09:01:57 AM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs.quickmeme.com%2Fimg%2F06%2F06255a2e3e9c65800026ebf2d1ea2b2f93dbb3a7a491f54d8983d1eddcd64aa7.png&hash=e3bc675a22b10129b95a0e045cbc4f25)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 04, 2015, 09:07:18 AM
If we find out Michiru Yamane is back too I'll be over the moon.
HA!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 04, 2015, 09:53:33 AM
Have anyone check IGA facebook page now?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 04, 2015, 10:15:12 AM
Have anyone check IGA facebook page now?

Yeah, nothing to see there.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 04, 2015, 10:24:00 AM
Yeah, nothing to see there.
What's the link? I can check it out throughout the day...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shinobi on May 04, 2015, 11:24:39 AM
Here: https://www.facebook.com/koji.igarashi1?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/koji.igarashi1?fref=ts)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 04, 2015, 11:30:23 AM
Igavania has the best profile picture.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 04, 2015, 11:58:08 AM
Is it wrong that I really don't know what's happening? I've been away for sometime now but I felt like checking this site out just to say what's up then this happens. Life can be an odd duck.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 04, 2015, 12:46:01 PM
Here: https://www.facebook.com/koji.igarashi1?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/koji.igarashi1?fref=ts)
Thanks!

Still nothing.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 04, 2015, 01:16:36 PM
I kinda question this whole "full moon" thing. You know, that everyone has already decided that it has anything to do with the full moon today. While I completely understand why people think that, it could mean something else entirely. Conclusions have been jumped! I'm in Europe and pretty much ready for bed soon, so I wonder what exact time we're talking about here? I guess I'm gonna find out tomorrow morning if anything came out of this at all...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 04, 2015, 01:24:46 PM
I guess it's u.s. time, i'm also about to g ofor sleep, since i have to wake up morning for work, so i guess if anything happens, will know it tomorrow.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 04, 2015, 01:47:36 PM
Another tweet:

"Soon the moon rises. You will have a decision to make."

https://twitter.com/SwordOrWhip
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sir Nicko on May 04, 2015, 01:48:13 PM
Amusing to see a site that is probably making money for that article literally attempt to paraphrase everything I said in the NeoGAF thread. :P

While paraphrased, all of that checks out. Something ought to surface today, that much is assured. I just hope it's something of substance and not more teasing.

Seriously... Too bad they didn't even give credit to you or the neogaf folks for piecing this info together... I believe I was the first to make the May 4th full moon connection over on NeoGAF as well (although we'll see if there's any merit to it...)! Maybe they literally meant full moon showing, as in announced tonight.

Anyway, we all know what a great job you did with the synopsis Foffy!

Nicko
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 04, 2015, 01:52:39 PM
Another tweet:

"Soon the moon rises. You will have a decision to make."

https://twitter.com/SwordOrWhip

Well, i'm too sleepy to stay and i'm working tomorrow, so i'll make that decision tomorrow! Good night everyone.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 04, 2015, 02:19:31 PM
Another tweet:

"Soon the moon rises. You will have a decision to make."

https://twitter.com/SwordOrWhip

Can this mean that he will make us choose between having a whip-wielding protagonist or a swordsman?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 04, 2015, 02:25:28 PM
Can this mean that he will make us choose between having a whip-wielding protagonist or a swordsman?

Considering his words "it matters not" I would wager that is no the case.

I think its saying that whether your prefer whip or sword combat does not matters since both will be available for said game from the beginning for you to choose.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 04, 2015, 02:32:17 PM
I don't think I've been this curious about a game since those OoE screenshots were leaked on Gamefaqs by an incompetent translator who thought Brachyura was to be named Blackula. It was actually Gunlord who pointed out that it's Brachyura...anyways that tweet by SwordorWhip makes it sound like it's going to be announced tonight in the US timezone, since it's still 5:30 Eastern Time here.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 04, 2015, 02:32:54 PM
Considering his words "it matters not" I would wager that is no the case.

I think its saying that whether your prefer whip or sword combat does not matters since both will be available for said game from the beginning for you to choose.
Yet, that is all I need to know to throw my money at him. Maybe I'm what's wrong with the gaming industry.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 04, 2015, 02:41:56 PM
Sunset is at 7:31 here in the Central Time Zone. Hopefully something gets announced tonight.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Belmontoya on May 04, 2015, 02:43:27 PM
Maybe the game itself will take place in the US?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 03:09:44 PM
Can this mean that he will make us choose between having a whip-wielding protagonist or a swordsman?
#teamwhip

I suspect something will happen 7-8 PM EST, so a couple more hours. It's only fitting the big announcement would take place at night.

Wager a guess at what gender the protagonist will be? I wouldn't mind another female lead like Shanoa or having the option to play as either male or female.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kamirine on May 04, 2015, 03:16:55 PM
Not gonna lie: even if nothing is announced tonight, I'm just glad to finally be getting something at this point.  Nice to see the board springing back to life again.

#TeamWhip
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: uzo on May 04, 2015, 03:18:32 PM
Hype Intensifies
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 04, 2015, 03:21:01 PM
Whoever isn't for the whip instead of the sword leave this forum. We don't like your kind around here.  :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 03:22:29 PM
Whoever isn't for the whip instead of the sword leave this forum. We don't like your kind around here.  :D
Thus it begins, another split in the fanbase before anything happens lmao
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 04, 2015, 03:26:27 PM
Whoever isn't for the whip instead of the sword leave this forum. We don't like your kind around here.  :D

Pfft, Jonathan Morris chose both.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: angevil on May 04, 2015, 03:29:28 PM
I am also excited for the first time after that screenshot for Ecclesia was leaked! IGA, please ba back with Ayami Kojima and Michiru Yamane, independent with no limits to creativity :)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 04, 2015, 03:29:58 PM
I'm just messing around. To this day I still pick Eric over John.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 03:34:31 PM
I'm just messing around. To this day I still pick Eric over John.
You monster.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Belmontoya on May 04, 2015, 03:36:10 PM
Man... If this turns out to be a 3DS exclusive I'll be fourfive seconds from wildin'!

Really... Please let this be on multiple consoles.

I swear I wish somebody would tell me.

Ooh, that's all I want.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 04, 2015, 03:36:42 PM
Pfft, Jonathan Morris chose both.

But when it mattered, it was either the whip or death.

#TeamWhip
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 03:39:15 PM
Man... If this turns out to be a 3DS exclusive I'll be fourfive seconds from wildin'!
3DS and WiiU eShop would make me happy, I would probably be more inclined to play it on my WiiU. I haven't touched my 3DS in months.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 04, 2015, 03:43:58 PM
As long as it isnt PS vita exclusive I am set. Just because I dont have a vita. Im hoping for a console game announcement though. But Pc is the most likely to start with.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 03:46:35 PM
http://swordorwhip.com/ (http://swordorwhip.com/)

HAPPENING

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuMRNMqH.png&hash=7469ae193a5cc6e07d3bafe6ff92f207)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: angevil on May 04, 2015, 03:48:43 PM
I was just going to post the link hehe..OMG!! :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 04, 2015, 03:50:01 PM
Please don't be a mobile game...Please don't be a mobile game...Please don't be a mobile game...Please don't be a mobile game...Please don't be a mobile game...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 04, 2015, 03:58:16 PM
Please don't be a mobile game...Please don't be a mobile game...Please don't be a mobile game...Please don't be a mobile game...Please don't be a mobile game...

That would be awful.
Though this is why kickstarters have stretch goals. Maybe it can have iOS/Android as a stretch goal along the way, but I would not be happy if it's the original intended platform. I want it to spread out across multiple platforms, like Shovel Knight damnit.

But most of all I want a 3DS or Vita version. Cause I'm 99% portable these days. But not mobile because no buttons = unplayable to me.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: deadsanto123 on May 04, 2015, 03:59:55 PM
Please don't be a mobile game...Please don't be a mobile game...Please don't be a mobile game...Please don't be a mobile game...Please don't be a mobile game...
That would be the worst
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 04, 2015, 04:06:40 PM
What if it's revealed to be..........























(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 04, 2015, 04:08:23 PM
I would say this:

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.xboxar.com%2Fimg%2F2014%2F7049-Xboxar.com.jpg&hash=e72654146fb319126ee437b3066ad084)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 04:11:48 PM
I don't see any sensible reason to kickstart a mobile game, you can get any sort of dribble onto phones. There's a reason IGA has turned to Kickstarter to get this project going.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 04, 2015, 04:16:23 PM
I've never chipped in on a Kickstarter campaign, but if this is real (which it seems very much so) and it meets my hopes, such as pc/console release with 2d sprites, then I would consider donating a decent sum.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 04, 2015, 04:23:26 PM
As excited for this game as I am I must say that If its banished to the handheld like the last IGA games where than I'm going to be disappointed.

If Mighty No. 9 can get a console release than this should as well, especially if its a kickstarter which I'm sure would do well with the right placements around the web given how starved the CV fanbase is ala Mega Man fanbase was before Mighty No. 9 was revealed.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Rugal on May 04, 2015, 04:24:52 PM
Stop FUCKING talking about mobile games please. NO.. NOOOOOOO.. NOOO STOP IT PLEASE STOP IT
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 04, 2015, 04:29:22 PM
As excited for this game as I am I must say that If its banished to the handheld like the last IGA games where than I'm going to be disappointed.

If Mighty No. 9 can get a console release than this should as well, especially if its a kickstarter which I'm sure would do well with the right placements around the web given how starved the CV fanbase is ala Mega Man fanbase was before Mighty No. 9 was revealed.

Mighty No. 9 got almost 4 000 000. I think that is a bit unrealistic for "Sword or Whip" (dunno what else to call this project right now). I have no idea how much money they'd have to get to put this on multiple platforms. Maybe they're actually aiming for console/pc? It seems simpler to go that route than aim for handhelds first. Dunno.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 04, 2015, 04:44:02 PM
Mighty No. 9 got almost 4 000 000. I think that is a bit unrealistic for "Sword or Whip" (dunno what else to call this project right now). I have no idea how much money they'd have to get to put this on multiple platforms. Maybe they're actually aiming for console/pc? It seems simpler to go that route than aim for handhelds first. Dunno.

Yea 4 mill is unrealistic, but I think given how starved the CV fanbase is for a proper title it making 2.5 million is reasonable enough, and who knows it may suprise you with 3 million.

After all as much as I love Mega Man I never thought the kickstarter would reach as much money as It did, but like CV I believed it would do well given how neglected the fanbase has felt from Capcom.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: The Puritan on May 04, 2015, 04:45:51 PM
Aaaagh, I haven't felt this hype since Order of Ecclesia. Count IGA's revival is finally at hand!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 04, 2015, 04:51:59 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fgifrific.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F07%2Fcoffee-sylvester-cat.gif&hash=70ce22e2e737a0bf30143ec10208ee39)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: deadsanto123 on May 04, 2015, 04:54:42 PM
Did you guys see this on the neogaf thread,

Take the following with a MOUNTAIN of salt, but the following comes from /v/. I will quote it verbatim.

"It's real. Game is going to be called Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night. Kickstarter goes live May 11th. Main character is NotShanoa named Miriam. She has rune tattoos on her body. NotAlucard will be named Gebel.

Screen cap this."

The same user mentioned Michiru Yamane is on board as composer.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 04, 2015, 04:57:17 PM
Did you guys see this on the neogaf thread,

Take the following with a MOUNTAIN of salt, but the following comes from /v/. I will quote it verbatim.

"It's real. Game is going to be called Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night. Kickstarter goes live May 11th. Main character is NotShanoa named Miriam. She has rune tattoos on her body. NotAlucard will be named Gebel.

Screen cap this."

The same user mentioned Michiru Yamane is on board as composer.

This user seems to be playing off that she is, in fact, PORTRAITofRUIN.

I don't know how well I buy into it. Being /v/ and all, it could just be a fan hijacking hype for hyperbole.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 04, 2015, 04:57:56 PM
Ritual of the Night?
Bloodstained?

Sounds slightly..untrue. But it's probably legit. I BELIEVE EVERYTHING AT THIS POINT.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 04, 2015, 05:02:04 PM
The name sounds goofy enough to be a rift on Castlevania but im still not sold yet.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Oniros on May 04, 2015, 05:02:30 PM
If notShanoa is in this, i'll be donating in the hundreds. No joke.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 04, 2015, 05:03:08 PM
Did you guys see this on the neogaf thread,

Take the following with a MOUNTAIN of salt, but the following comes from /v/. I will quote it verbatim.

"It's real. Game is going to be called Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night. Kickstarter goes live May 11th. Main character is NotShanoa named Miriam. She has rune tattoos on her body. NotAlucard will be named Gebel.

Screen cap this."

The same user mentioned Michiru Yamane is on board as composer.

Skeptic, but it doesn't sound so farfetched it would be untrue. We shall see.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Rodriguezjr on May 04, 2015, 05:07:01 PM
My whip is ready.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 04, 2015, 05:09:08 PM
The name sounds goofy enough to be a rift on Castlevania but im still not sold yet.

To be fair all Castlevania names sound like riffs on Castlevania names.

I mean we've already gotten "Curse of Darkness", it's not like we can do any worse in terms of naming.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 04, 2015, 05:13:34 PM
To be fair all Castlevania names sound like riffs on Castlevania names.

I mean we've already gotten "Curse of Darkness", it's not like we can do any worse in terms of naming.

We didn't get "Remnant of Nocturne" tho.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 05:17:24 PM
Something should happen in the next hour or sooner, unless they're gonna make us wait until midnight.

Probably smart to sleep on it and see what happened in the morning.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 04, 2015, 05:19:16 PM
Something should happen in the next hour or sooner, unless they're gonna make us wait until midnight.

Probably smart to sleep on it and see what happened in the morning.

How can you sleep with this hype?

"Let us go out this evening for pleasure.
The night is still young."
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 04, 2015, 05:22:48 PM
was happy to hear akira toriyama making an official sequel series to DBZ
now koji igarashi making a spiritual successor to akumajo dracula
im still ugly af tho. 2 out of 3 aint bad
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 04, 2015, 05:30:08 PM
was happy to hear akira toriyama making an official sequel series to DBZ
now koji igarashi making a spiritual successor to akumajo dracula
im still ugly af tho. 2 out of 3 aint bad

"Everything you are and do is as magnificent and as free of any blemish as the patterns in waves." - Alan Watts

Don't be so hard on yourself, friend. <3
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 04, 2015, 05:37:30 PM
Well it's 8:36PM Eastern Time here, still no show...waiting on this and Jason for MKX!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: uzo on May 04, 2015, 05:39:22 PM
DO WANT notShanoa.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 04, 2015, 05:47:30 PM
Skeptic, but it doesn't sound so farfetched it would be untrue. We shall see.

I remember some of the rumors about Portrait of Ruin on GameFAQs turned out to be true. Let's wait and see if /v/ proves as reliable...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 04, 2015, 05:48:19 PM
Shanoa wouldn't use a whip....
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 04, 2015, 05:49:25 PM
Sorry... Miriam
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 04, 2015, 05:52:35 PM
DO THE GLASS THROWING!

VOTE FOR WHIP, YOU GODDAMNED BATHEADS!

http://swordorwhip.com/ (http://swordorwhip.com/)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 04, 2015, 05:52:50 PM
How awesome would it be to have it be a metroidvania and classicvania?

Like, an arranged mode of the games locales that are slightly altered and is in a stage by stage format?

Best of both worlds.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 04, 2015, 05:53:06 PM
Voted whip!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 04, 2015, 05:54:13 PM
Whip it all the way, son.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 04, 2015, 05:57:04 PM
Interesting stuff if you reload and keep voting.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 04, 2015, 05:57:40 PM
Bullwhip?!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 04, 2015, 06:00:24 PM
Interesting to note:

DRACULIGA knows that you are voting for the sword or for the whip, and comments when you vote for one, and then for another.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 04, 2015, 06:00:59 PM
I voted sword, cos I knew whip was going to get all the votes and I like the multi-weapon gameplay in the SOTN-and-beyond Castlevanias.

HYPE!!!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 04, 2015, 06:03:03 PM
"What do you do when you find yourself without a castle? You build another" Draculiga
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 04, 2015, 06:03:27 PM
Voted sword, more of a fan of diversity in my weapons.

But I knew the whip would get most of the votes, I just hope this game is still a true metroidvania.

Also hope that this is actually just a promotion and has no affect on the game in such a way that we will only have whips or only have sword, I wouldn't mind both to be honest.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 04, 2015, 06:03:38 PM
"From now on, I will call you Leraje the Limber. You may call me sir." Draculiga
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Rugal on May 04, 2015, 06:04:08 PM
http://swordorwhip.com/?c=8BjfgJEM7iESNKxt9F2AaZds5UFjMiHPgAif (http://swordorwhip.com/?c=8BjfgJEM7iESNKxt9F2AaZds5UFjMiHPgAif)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 06:04:43 PM
"Did you think your decision would be easy?"

Yes. That's why I picked the whip.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 04, 2015, 06:05:34 PM
I guess I'm in the Iron Flail clan...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 04, 2015, 06:07:38 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOCMHcJ0.jpg&hash=3e8940b953df3f3498e5037d7dbbc2fd)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 04, 2015, 06:08:49 PM
#WhipGang
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: X on May 04, 2015, 06:09:10 PM
Whip for me!  :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Rodriguezjr on May 04, 2015, 06:09:55 PM
I guess I'm in the Iron Flail clan...
Same here
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 04, 2015, 06:10:44 PM
Same here

Hell yeah! We got our own tiny Beaumont clan already.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 04, 2015, 06:11:31 PM
Interesting names being dropped here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haagenti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haagenti)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocell)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morax_(demon) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morax_(demon))
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 06:12:23 PM
It allowed me to vote again.

Quote
IGA:From now on, I will call you Marax the Messy. You may call me sir.

I couldn't help but lol at this
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 04, 2015, 06:14:17 PM
Interesting names being dropped here...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haagenti (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haagenti)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocell (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crocell)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morax_(demon) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morax_(demon))

Interdasting.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: uzo on May 04, 2015, 06:16:28 PM
The hype is breaking the fourm. I keep getting connection errors, haha.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 04, 2015, 06:17:00 PM
#TeamWhip HE KNOWS

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150505C%2Fezimba14497894421904.png&hash=e3af565cb9cc9d367ac7df5dda37095b)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 04, 2015, 06:17:58 PM
Interdasting.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 04, 2015, 06:18:30 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FA6SkW1x.jpg&hash=836745c5c7614b23a9ebcb4dbaaef807)

Just saw this.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 04, 2015, 06:19:13 PM
The forum died for a minute.

What a time to be alive.(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thecoli.com%2Fstyles%2Fdefault%2Fxenforo%2Fsmilies%2Fwow.png&hash=44eba37a7fc2fe084eb1ef29f9bc7b03)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 04, 2015, 06:19:21 PM
The hype is breaking the fourm. I keep getting connection errors, haha.

Both the forum and swordorwhip.com...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 04, 2015, 06:19:46 PM
I am Belial the Bleak of the Cat 'O Nine Tails clan.

I have absolutely no idea what is happening.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 04, 2015, 06:20:57 PM
he's recruiting us to join his legion
and we dont even know it


fucking brilliant
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 04, 2015, 06:21:06 PM
Take that, Konami.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150505C%2Fezimba14497887322904.png&hash=607b54f1425967e496b040ef862937cf)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Oniros on May 04, 2015, 06:21:34 PM
I am Belial the Bleak of the Cat 'O Nine Tails clan.

I have absolutely no idea what is happening.
I'm Furfur the Fine from the same clan.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 04, 2015, 06:21:46 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fgxzjoa8.jpg&hash=fff4aef723bd3cb3c7de222621087999)

I've been voting one then the other, then one multiple times, etc. and I've been getting all kind of different messages.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 04, 2015, 06:23:29 PM
Take that, Konami.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150505C%2Fezimba14497887322904.png&hash=607b54f1425967e496b040ef862937cf)

Yes! That quote works on so many levels.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 06:26:15 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpfmcBib.png&hash=98d422162a9f036759b122702c3662e0)

My god.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 04, 2015, 06:26:49 PM
"Of course you understand that this is not my final form. Two dimensions cannot hold me."

Draculiga is quickly becoming a better character than Dracula.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 04, 2015, 06:27:31 PM
Take that, Konami.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150505C%2Fezimba14497887322904.png&hash=607b54f1425967e496b040ef862937cf)

SHOTS FIRED!
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHNyzdNM.gif&hash=4bac59fa09d2e7ae868318d88cb5f95a)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 04, 2015, 06:31:51 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpfmcBib.png&hash=98d422162a9f036759b122702c3662e0)

My god.

2.5D? I mean I don't see how this can get enough for a 3D game...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 04, 2015, 06:32:21 PM
All dis hype :o
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 04, 2015, 06:32:37 PM
2D spritework with 3D parallax backgrounds

think strider 2 but in glorious HD
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 04, 2015, 06:33:09 PM
"The illness feeds itself. Then you feed the illness. Then the illness feeds you." -Draculiga
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 06:35:12 PM
2D spritework with 3D parallax backgrounds

think strider 2 but in glorious HD
Holy shit I want this.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 04, 2015, 06:35:33 PM
Is this teasing an actual online type thing with clans vs clans? Waaaah I know nothing.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 04, 2015, 06:41:06 PM
Holy shit I want this.

Do you mean Strider HD? lol
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Oniros on May 04, 2015, 06:41:50 PM
I just want the KS to be up so I can give them my damn money. I'm hungry... :( Also,

Quote
Oniros, theplottwist, crisis, beingthehero, VladCT, Jop, deadsanto123, Kingshango, Maedhros, EstebanT, darkmanx_429, Shiroi Koumori, piscesdreams, OSM, Rugal and 13 Guests are viewing this topic.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 04, 2015, 06:43:03 PM
im kinda hesitant on the kickstarter. summer is coming on & i have no clothes ._.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 04, 2015, 06:44:35 PM
What did IGA name you all? I'm Orias the Outcast. ;_;
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 04, 2015, 06:45:17 PM
He called me Astaroth the Analog. LOL

"Sword has crushed the competition today."
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 06:46:31 PM
Do you mean Strider HD? lol
No. 2D Sprites with 3D scrolling backgrounds for IGA's game.

Give it to me.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 04, 2015, 06:47:11 PM
What did IGA name you all? I'm Orias the Outcast. ;_;

Leraje the Limber
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 04, 2015, 06:48:12 PM
What did IGA name you all? I'm Orias the Outcast. ;_;

Leraje the Limber
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 04, 2015, 06:49:17 PM
That answers that.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jop on May 04, 2015, 06:49:45 PM
Leraje the Loagy
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 04, 2015, 06:52:23 PM
@piscesdreams: "Your clan will fight other clans for treasure. It is just the way of these things."
Ohkay... Clash of Clans... If this is going mobile I'm so out.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 06:53:15 PM
WHO CLAN IRON FLAIL HERE
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 04, 2015, 06:54:56 PM
WHO CLAN IRON FLAIL HERE

SQUAD UP!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 04, 2015, 06:55:35 PM
That site is dying.
"Disconnected. Reconnecting..." So many people must have been voting.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 04, 2015, 06:57:01 PM
Furfur The Fall in this bish.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 04, 2015, 06:58:24 PM
@piscesdreams: "Your clan will fight other clans for treasure. It is just the way of these things."
Ohkay... Clash of Clans... If this is going mobile I'm so out.

lol.. talk about the 'ol bait n switch routine. hope not
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kaori on May 04, 2015, 07:01:09 PM
All of my hype right now.  :D

Also, I'm Crocell the Craggy, lol.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 04, 2015, 07:03:36 PM
Ooof, Shiroi raises a good point...I don't want to sound like a wet blanket but this could be a mobile thing instead of a proper IGAvania. Even if it's related to Nintendo, I heard Nintendo was moving into the mobile market. They may have wanted an IGA thing to induct them into those previously uncharted waters. Again, not to shoot down anyone's hopes, but let's not get them up too fast...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 04, 2015, 07:04:37 PM
This forum needs a defibrillator, never seen it crash so much goodness.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 04, 2015, 07:05:25 PM
if this is just a mobile game akin to clans vs clans rather than a true IGAvania game for a console than my Hype is going to take a very serious blow....
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 07:05:47 PM
It's really wonderful to see this place spring back to life so quickly, thank you IGA.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 04, 2015, 07:07:33 PM
if it turns out to be a mobile purchase thing then it will simply serve as a curiosity & nothing more, like encore of the night

but i dont think it will be that; if this "clans battling clans" hints pans out then that just may mean it will have online capabilities. maybe iga learned a thing or 2 from working on Harmony of despair & is simply building on that aspect
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 04, 2015, 07:07:33 PM
Clan bullwhip here
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 04, 2015, 07:08:25 PM
This forum needs a defibrillator, never seen it crash so much goodness.

Calling Dr. Jorge....
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 04, 2015, 07:08:38 PM
if this is just a mobile game akin to clans vs clans rather than a true IGAvania game for a console than my Hype is going to take a very serious blow....

Oh god, this better not be a fucking HoDespair sequel. That flyer made it sound like a proper Metroidvania.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Oniros on May 04, 2015, 07:10:23 PM
Oh god, this better not be a fucking HoDespair sequel. That flyer made it sound like a proper Metroidvania.
Let's think positively: what if it is a game with a regular single player game with a multiplayer component based on HD? I would definitely be down for that.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 07:10:54 PM
Let's not get paranoid until we know more.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 04, 2015, 07:11:26 PM
I don't think it could be an HoD sequel. Doesn't Konami still have the rights to Castlevania? Whatever this thing is, it'll at least have to be its own property rather than a sequel to any existing game.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 04, 2015, 07:14:24 PM
I don't think it could be an HoD sequel. Doesn't Konami still have the rights to Castlevania? Whatever this thing is, it'll at least have to be its own property rather than a sequel to any existing game.

I didn't mean an official sequel, Mr. Prunyuu, but a spiritual sequel to it.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 04, 2015, 07:15:43 PM
Oh, yeah. Well, that might be it too, though honestly I think it can only be one of two evils: Either an HoD clone OR a mobile game. I don't see how HoD could work well on tiny screens.

And who knows, maybe it will be neither of those two evils but an unallayed good. Maybe they'll give us an honest to god Igavania. Let us hope and pray...*snugles hero*
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 04, 2015, 07:18:53 PM
Guys, put in the Konami code.
(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/71317971/kcode.png)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Maedhros on May 04, 2015, 07:19:44 PM
Jumping to conclusions: The Forum.

Just wait guys. There's no way they'll announce a kickstarter for a mobile game.

You guys are forgetting about the tweet from the new Kickstarter on 11 May?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 04, 2015, 07:20:51 PM
If it is a mobile game or Harmony of Despair clone I am so fucking done.

That would be the biggest blue ball, dick move that could be pulled aside from an elaborate hoax.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 04, 2015, 07:22:43 PM
Try entering the Konami Code, with B A swapped.

Seriously.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: VladCT on May 04, 2015, 07:23:57 PM
If it is a mobile game or Harmony of Despair clone I am so fucking done.

That would be the biggest blue ball, dick move that could be pulled aside from an elaborate hoax.
And you wonder why I refuse to hop on the hype train early nowadays. :P
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 04, 2015, 07:25:03 PM
If it is a mobile game or Harmony of Despair clone I am so fucking done.

That would be the biggest blue ball, dick move that could be pulled aside from an elaborate hoax.

I'll take another Harmony of Despair, actually (not my first choice, mind you). Much as I ragged on it at first, playing it with a bunch of drunk friends proved to be very entertaining on a Friday evening.

But no, seriously....give us an actual new PC/console game. I'm fine with Steam, even.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kamirine on May 04, 2015, 07:25:16 PM
Just voted whip.  Really want to know what IGA has up his sleeve!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 04, 2015, 07:32:33 PM
Mobile game is a dealbreaker for me.

However, I understand his situation (family man who needs to earn a living) so will not begrudge him if he makes a mobile game. Hell, this could all be a hoax, and I will still be satisfied, because just seeing so many people excited about this is giving me hope!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: VladCT on May 04, 2015, 07:33:27 PM
By the way, voted whip until I got the name Seere the Skinless and the clan Cat O' Nine Tails.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 04, 2015, 07:33:56 PM
Thats the spirit, Aalucard :D And who knows, like I said, maybe it really will be an actual game! Let's not get our hopes up too high, but let's not set them into the abyss either. Balance in all things :)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 07:46:07 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRtW2ASZ.png&hash=64fcbff51103425c4a25aedc6d70a763)

It all goes down next Monday.

Fuck.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aensland on May 04, 2015, 07:47:49 PM
I want to believe

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQSsSTp9.png&hash=03e5536c4352b2cb950160b729f6f6e2)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 04, 2015, 07:50:08 PM
if it turns out to be a mobile game successor to harmony of despair, then iga will have his cake & eat yours too

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv119%2Fc0mbat%2Figa-6.png&hash=bfda8a6b26d4c7045cf39aa1b35a05d6)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 04, 2015, 07:55:02 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRtW2ASZ.png&hash=64fcbff51103425c4a25aedc6d70a763)

It all goes down next Monday.

Fuck.

Hey we've waited for years, another week wont hurt.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Little Dracula on May 04, 2015, 08:02:56 PM
Brillant website, team whip all the way.

Is not going to be a mobile game, calm down.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: deadsanto123 on May 04, 2015, 08:07:37 PM
Jumping to conclusions: The Forum.

Just wait guys. There's no way they'll announce a kickstarter for a mobile game.

You guys are forgetting about the tweet from the new Kickstarter on 11 May?
+1 A mobile game would not have a kickstarter
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: AxeLord on May 04, 2015, 08:23:39 PM
As far as I can tell, there are five clans: Katana Clan, Rapier Clan, Bullwhip Clan, Iron Flail Clan, and Cat O' Nine Tails Clan. There should be a third clan for the sword side...

BTW, I'm Glasya the Grubby of Iron Flail Clan.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: AxeLord on May 04, 2015, 08:25:25 PM
Nevermind. I think I've got it.

Iron Flail v. Broadsword
Cat O' Nine Tails v. Katana
Bullwhip v. Rapier

I'm pretty sure these are the clan rivalries.

Also, did a bit of research into the name I was assigned. What significance could this hold?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=5DhIVeC4JMGfgwTluoDIDw&url=http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasya-Labolas&ved=0CDEQFjAH&usg=AFQjCNFYzjMnvTsY7cfBbqgfG-IrAKj6Lw&sig2=LVatADvs7UZrmljUvsQ8Dw (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=5DhIVeC4JMGfgwTluoDIDw&url=http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasya-Labolas&ved=0CDEQFjAH&usg=AFQjCNFYzjMnvTsY7cfBbqgfG-IrAKj6Lw&sig2=LVatADvs7UZrmljUvsQ8Dw)

I'd also recommend that everyone stick around until midnight. Just to see what happens. I can't help but have an odd feeling that something strange is going to go down...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 04, 2015, 08:34:44 PM
Aint no party like a bullwhip party cause a bullwhip party don't stop! ;D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dracula9 on May 04, 2015, 08:41:43 PM
Voted whip, and THE HYPE IS REACHING OVER-CAPACITY

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.amazonaws.com%2Frapgenius%2Ffunny-gif-Colbert-screaming.gif&hash=39fa717e800c7e0caaee4529f57e65ef)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 04, 2015, 08:46:10 PM
We should compile a list of the names referenced, they are all clues, possibly. It seems like he is really into researching his material, as many demon names are similar to those written in ancient grimoires or at least OTO translations of those. I wonder if there are clues in the names. What if the player is the demon, and there is a huge hierarchy of demons inspired by classical demonology? That would be some sick sh*t.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 04, 2015, 08:46:53 PM
Nevermind. I think I've got it.

Iron Flail v. Broadsword
Cat O' Nine Tails v. Katana
Bullwhip v. Rapier

I'm pretty sure these are the clan rivalries.

Also, did a bit of research into the name I was assigned. What significance could this hold?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=5DhIVeC4JMGfgwTluoDIDw&url=http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasya-Labolas&ved=0CDEQFjAH&usg=AFQjCNFYzjMnvTsY7cfBbqgfG-IrAKj6Lw&sig2=LVatADvs7UZrmljUvsQ8Dw (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=5DhIVeC4JMGfgwTluoDIDw&url=http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasya-Labolas&ved=0CDEQFjAH&usg=AFQjCNFYzjMnvTsY7cfBbqgfG-IrAKj6Lw&sig2=LVatADvs7UZrmljUvsQ8Dw)

I'd also recommend that everyone stick around until midnight. Just to see what happens. I can't help but have an odd feeling that something strange is going to go down...

All of the names reference the Ars Goetia.

Very likely the monsters in the game are specifically based upon the Ars Goetia. All of the monsters have glyphs and runes, apparently...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 04, 2015, 08:48:51 PM
LOL UUDDLRLRABAB
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 04, 2015, 08:49:39 PM
The whole clan thing confuses me. I'm guessing it's only part of this particular viral campaign and will have very little to do with the actual game. Maybe they'll use the clans in a more meaningful way later on, when they're making decisions on the game content? It seems we are voting for the weapons, except not quite? I've been clicking randomly on both weapons multiple times, lol. And if I leave the site for a while and return, I'm given a brand new name, so I don't see any real meaning here just yet. This is the strangest thing I've done all day.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 04, 2015, 08:50:09 PM
In demon form Glasya-Labolas appears as a dog with wings like a griffin. In his human/angelic form he appears as a young man, a teenager perhaps, with short blonde hair and white wings.

http://www.gods-and-monsters.com/glasya-labolas.html (http://www.gods-and-monsters.com/glasya-labolas.html)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: angevil on May 04, 2015, 08:51:20 PM
Finally! I woke up to this and it is brilliant! Go, IGA! I am so excited! I am sure it will be something great, mostly similar in spirit to SotN. My financial situation is not good, but I am SO giving money for this :)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 04, 2015, 08:56:25 PM
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=5DhIVeC4JMGfgwTluoDIDw&url=http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasya-Labolas&ved=0CDEQFjAH&usg=AFQjCNFYzjMnvTsY7cfBbqgfG-IrAKj6Lw&sig2=LVatADvs7UZrmljUvsQ8Dw (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=5DhIVeC4JMGfgwTluoDIDw&url=http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasya-Labolas&ved=0CDEQFjAH&usg=AFQjCNFYzjMnvTsY7cfBbqgfG-IrAKj6Lw&sig2=LVatADvs7UZrmljUvsQ8Dw)
Holy shit that is creepy.

I really can't wait to see how twisted and creative this new bestiary of monsters is going to be. Clean slate, new ideas. This is incredibly exciting! :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 04, 2015, 09:15:01 PM
Makes me think that the game will be based on two opposing clans of demon hunters or something.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 04, 2015, 09:18:02 PM
glasya-labolas was an enemy in portrait of ruin

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Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Somanyte on May 04, 2015, 09:29:20 PM
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I'm Decarabia the Destroyer
I always liked Ars Goetia enemies.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dracula9 on May 04, 2015, 09:29:54 PM
Malphas the Mad of the Bullwhip Clan, calling in.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 04, 2015, 09:32:11 PM
The whole clan thing confuses me. I'm guessing it's only part of this particular viral campaign and will have very little to do with the actual game. Maybe they'll use the clans in a more meaningful way later on, when they're making decisions on the game content? It seems we are voting for the weapons, except not quite? I've been clicking randomly on both weapons multiple times, lol. And if I leave the site for a while and return, I'm given a brand new name, so I don't see any real meaning here just yet. This is the strangest thing I've done all day.

Maybe swords mean metroidvania clans vs whips classicvania clans cause there is no way in heck am I voting for swords.

With that, I voted whips and he asked if I even knew what I was doing. Of course not but I chose whip again I was named " Forneus the Frigid" .

Edit: "For your consistent voting, you are now in the Cat O' Nine Tails clan."
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 04, 2015, 09:46:07 PM
Hello guys been a while...I kept switching from Whip to sword, just wanted to confuse it a bit xD now he's calling me Phoenix the polite, now you shall call me sir!

- Can I fix you a drink ? or you don't trust me just yet ?

- You seem you like this weapon a lot, Phoenix the polite! ( I kept clicking on the whip )

- Now I'm in the Iron flail clan
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 04, 2015, 09:48:21 PM
"Your clan will fight other clans for treasure. It is just the way of these things."

I wonder if this can be a story mechanic?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 04, 2015, 09:54:26 PM
I entered the Konami code and he said :

- What makes you think that will work here?

- You are losing this battle to Cat O' Nine Tails, but there is time to redeem yourself.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 04, 2015, 09:59:37 PM

- You are losing this battle to Cat O' Nine Tails, but there is time to redeem yourself.

That's not going to happen  :P
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 04, 2015, 10:04:13 PM
That's not going to happen  :P

Yeah because guess what ? I just joined your clan xD

- Your clan has a narrow lead over Katana this battle.

- Now are you sure you will do this to your friends ? ( a small scroll appeared to invite friends to my clan )

here : http://swordorwhip.com/?c=uThCBxAfDhxgHA5WRzxdXXL18UDBu1FA7BDK79QEr4w7Q (http://swordorwhip.com/?c=uThCBxAfDhxgHA5WRzxdXXL18UDBu1FA7BDK79QEr4w7Q)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 04, 2015, 10:07:57 PM
Yeah because guess what ? I just joined your clan xD

- Your clan has a narrow lead over Katana this battle.

- Now are you sure you will do this to your friends ? ( a small scroll appeared to invite friends to my clan )

here : http://swordorwhip.com/?c=uThCBxAfDhxgHA5WRzxdXXL18UDBu1FA7BDK79QEr4w7Q (http://swordorwhip.com/?c=uThCBxAfDhxgHA5WRzxdXXL18UDBu1FA7BDK79QEr4w7Q)

Whips will win it is the natural order.  8)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Captain Sheepy on May 04, 2015, 10:21:36 PM
Whips will win it is the natural order.  8)
Pft, natural order.... =o= -pokes- Honestly...I just wants two games in one, or both as a hybrid =u=. Yes, that is the way.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 04, 2015, 10:23:20 PM
Pft, natural order.... =o= -pokes-

Curious. What clan are you in?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 04, 2015, 10:24:05 PM
I think both the sword and the whip votes would be close.

Hahahaha.
Once you're in a clan then choose the other option:
"You've been mustered out of your clan for your perfidy. Traitor."

Then switch side again:
"You've switched sides! How interesting."
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 04, 2015, 10:24:17 PM
If we're unknowingly voting between a metroivania style game or a classicvania game, (by choosing either sword or whip) I would be extremely upset, lol. They need to tell us such important things so we can make a decision we can live with. Besides, CotM, HoD and PoR had whips so all Metroidvanias aren't automatically swords... Uugghh! This is so vague.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 04, 2015, 10:26:46 PM
If we're unknowingly voting between a metroivania style game or a classicvania game, (by choosing either sword or whip) I would be extremely upset, lol. They need to tell us such important things so we can make a decision we can live with. Besides, PoR had whips so all Metroidvanias aren't automatically swords... Uugghh! This is so vague.

I was thinking alongsides the lines that maybe sword users are more metroidvania orientated while whip weilders were more classic inclined. Ohh.. Good Gosh it feels good to be back!  :) 
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Captain Sheepy on May 04, 2015, 10:26:53 PM
Curious. What clan are you in?
I wanna be both. So I voted Sword first, and then switched to Whip. because I'm badass....even though it doesn't work that way......I CALL THE MEMORY OF RICHTER UPON YOU!

Honestly though, I think he might pull a usual metroidvania. Maybe he'll do classic as the main story instead this time, and have unlockable metroidvania characters. Or the usual way, metroidvania style, and then classic style like Alucard Richter Maria, or etc. I mean, that happened in a lot of the metroidvania games, and that honestly reaches out to everyone yeah? ^u^
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 04, 2015, 10:30:11 PM
I just like whipping over slashing. I'm very simple in this regard.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 04, 2015, 10:31:40 PM
What does this suppose to mean?
"The illness feeds itself. Then you feed the illness. Then the illness feeds you."
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 04, 2015, 10:32:47 PM
I was thinking alongsides the lines that maybe sword users are more metroidvania orientated while whip weilders were more classic inclined. Ohh.. Good Gosh it feels good to be back!  :)

Yeah, I guess. But I'm a little bit of both! Though I am maybe 60/40 whip/sword. But as for the actual game styles I am 50/50!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Captain Sheepy on May 04, 2015, 10:34:43 PM
I just like whipping over slashing. I'm very simple in this regard.
Well, you can whip some butt...but you can't slash some butt XD (well you can but, it's certainly not common)
As long as there's a shoryuken and some special moves (and some combo and cancel mechanics) I'll be happy.
GIVE ME MY OP SHORYUUUUKEN! -flies into the air with ma whip hand up. I guess it's because I look into game mechanics quite a bit as a quality assurance tester.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 04, 2015, 10:35:53 PM
What does this suppose to mean?
"The illness feeds itself. Then you feed the illness. Then the illness feeds you."

I literally had this a second ago. And dang it it was the right choice I made!


Yeah, I guess. But I'm a little bit of both! Though I am maybe 60/40 whip/sword. But as for the actual game styles I am 50/50!

100% Whip and as for game styles I like classic more. How much, I don't know percentage wise I just prefer them over MV's greatly.

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Captain Sheepy on May 04, 2015, 10:36:51 PM
Yeah, I guess. But I'm a little bit of both! Though I am maybe 60/40 whip/sword. But as for the actual game styles I am 50/50!
You know what, I think I wish there was a third choice.....EVERYTHING! (guess that would be Morris style since there's martial arts, subweapons, whips, sword, knuckles (OH GOD YES THE KNUCKLES), etc)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 04, 2015, 10:38:53 PM
I agree with Everything. But it seems they don't want us to have everything as of this point.
Unless we keep all votes from all clans at a stalemate...  8)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 04, 2015, 10:40:32 PM
You know what, I think I wish there was a third choice.....EVERYTHING! (guess that would be Morris style since there's martial arts, subweapons, whips, sword, knuckles (OH GOD YES THE KNUCKLES), etc)

In that sense MV's ARE everything and the third choice. Classic is just good ole sub weapons. And that's how I like it.

I agree with Everything. But it seems they don't want us to have everything as of this point.
Unless we keep all votes from all clans at a stalemate...  8)


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Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 04, 2015, 10:41:47 PM
The hype is BUILDING, don't let us down.

Also, so many shots fired to Konami LOL IGA > Hideo
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Captain Sheepy on May 04, 2015, 10:42:33 PM

"What does this suppose to mean?
"The illness feeds itself. Then you feed the illness. Then the illness feeds you.""
I literally had this a second ago. And dang it it was the right choice I made!
This just sparked something guys. I got a theory on this.

The whip of course represents classicvania in a way. But think about it...something from long ago...something where is represents a formula that we don't want changed. And all this illness stuff. In a way, maybe whip says that people aren't willing to change. That people hate change and don't want to move forward out of their fantasies of the old. They can't accept the new things. I mean, illness feeds you? Our delusions of old things being great....my delusions...of old things being great...OH GOD OnO

The sword represents another form of something classic too though...but still it's a different type of classic. People who liked SOTN and perhaps even the metroidvanias that followed after. Does it show change? Each metroidvania game had a lot of different things. There actually were whip only characters, but they weren't so donwn right simple. There were people who used many weapons, those who used glyphs...or even those of few weapons but plenty of magic instead....or classic characters who had many martial arts special moves like Richter. Or a team of 3 in reference to castlevania 3. It shows a willingness to modify and change while still keeping some of the old...but an idea of wanting to experience what CAN be done with a classic...what CAN be done with an old formula.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 04, 2015, 10:43:25 PM
The hype is BUILDING, don't let us down.

Also, so many shots fired to Konami LOL IGA > Hideo

Metal Gear isn't everything the only good thing Konami did this last month was release Gradius V on PSN
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Little Dracula on May 04, 2015, 10:54:39 PM
Is possible to extract all the dialogue lines from the code of the website?.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dracula9 on May 04, 2015, 11:33:35 PM
Probably, but where's the fun in that?

Also, just got the following message.

Quote from: Totally Not IGA
The final quarter looms, Malphas the Mad. It is almost too late.

Voting period's almost over, perhaps?

EDIT: Got this one, too. I think there are subtle clues hidden in specific messages.
Quote from: Also Totally Not IGA
Of course you understand that this is not my final form. Two dimensions cannot hold me.

EDIT again:
Quote from: Most Assuredly Not IGA
The First Scroll - The last front in an ancient war stretches across the bodies of the innocent.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: X on May 05, 2015, 12:15:59 AM
Haha, that's amusing. I just finished voting again (all whips of course) and was branded 'Ose the Outraged'.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 05, 2015, 12:25:12 AM
I have been bestowed the title Dantalion the Dodgy of the Iron Flail Clan for my consistent voting on the whip.  :)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dracula9 on May 05, 2015, 12:27:45 AM
Are the clans randomly assigned after a certain number of votes, or do they "upgrade" after even more consistent voting?

Because I've switched to sword to remove clan status a couple of times and gone back to whip, and I've gotten Bullwhip and Cat O' Nine Tails interchangeably. My name, Malphas the Mad, has remained constant, though.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 05, 2015, 12:31:00 AM
Apperently you will "fight other clans for treasure". I guess they are planning on making this some kind of MMORPG?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dracula9 on May 05, 2015, 12:33:33 AM
Maybe. Or perhaps it'd be set up akin to Belmont's Revenge, in which you'd have to choose your clan at the start (if those who've voted aren't automatically given a clan with perks or something) and go ransack the castles of the rivaling clans, before a Big Bad shows up with his or her supercastle.

That'd be interesting.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 05, 2015, 12:36:13 AM
Are the clans randomly assigned after a certain number of votes, or do they "upgrade" after even more consistent voting?

Because I've switched to sword to remove clan status a couple of times and gone back to whip, and I've gotten Bullwhip and Cat O' Nine Tails interchangeably. My name, Malphas the Mad, has remained constant, though.

I don't know about the random assignments.

I, on the other hand, is consistent with the clan name even after using several different PCs with different IPs but the name changes each time. haha. I still like the first name I got. Astaroth the Analog. I like analog stuff.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: whipsmemory on May 05, 2015, 12:39:41 AM
Amy the Aggrieved from #ClanCatONineTails here!

cannot hold that much hype
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dracula9 on May 05, 2015, 12:45:52 AM
I don't know about the random assignments.

I, on the other hand, is consistent with the clan name even after using several different PCs with different IPs but the name changes each time. haha. I still like the first name I got. Astaroth the Analog. I like analog stuff.

Too much demon power for anything but analog. Or would it be *two much demon power for anything but asterlog?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 05, 2015, 12:51:58 AM
Too much demon power for anything but analog. Or would it be *two much demon power for anything but asterlog?

hahahaha. Maybe analog as in "similar to something else" rather than the analog devices.

And a new message:
"The final quarter looms, Haures the Hapless. It is almost too late."

Another one:
"If you hope to win, you'll need to organize. If you hope to perish, you may do whatever you like."
= MMORPG?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: JR on May 05, 2015, 01:41:24 AM
Seere the Surreptitious of the Iron Flail clan here.

"If I gave you this weapon, what would you even do with it?"

Very...sexy things...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DonBorrelli on May 05, 2015, 01:56:33 AM
As much hyped I'm for this, I will actually love to see a revival of the most classic Castlevania style gameplay. I don't hate the Metroidvania games, but the direction the franchise took since SoTN wasn't particulary of my likeness.
Is Adventure Rebirth any good?, the original gameboy title is actually my favorite game of the series (Simon's Revenge being a close second)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: AxeLord on May 05, 2015, 03:02:45 AM
Those three items at the bottom - I saved the images. Their names are (left to right):

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clancontract@2x.png
scroll1@2x.png
battleclock@2x.png

What the hell is the battle clock? As suggested by the scroll's file name, could there be more than one scroll?

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dracula9 on May 05, 2015, 03:19:34 AM
Did you hover your cursor over the clock? Doing so with the scrolls grant messages, as the one I posted earlier. Maybe there'll be another cryptic clue as to its function?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: AxeLord on May 05, 2015, 03:23:12 AM
I can't. I'm on mobile. Dammit. Am I the only one with the clock?

EDIT: While I can't hover over it, tapping it yields the message: "this item is still in cooldown." Odd, since I don't recall initially using it.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dracula9 on May 05, 2015, 03:41:27 AM
Seems so. Can you recall about how long it took for the clock to show up? I've been clicking all night and haven't seen it yet.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: AxeLord on May 05, 2015, 03:59:34 AM
I went to sleep at about 12:10. Woke up at 5:30, and both the scroll and clock were there. @SwordOrWhip did post something on Twitter about how all three whip clans had won, and that those who participated should check their inventories. I suppose that's what this is.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kamirine on May 05, 2015, 04:51:19 AM
Zepar the Zippy of the Cat O' Nine Tails Clan.  :D

I kept voting whip and got the Clan Contract, never got the scroll or clock.  When I clicked on the contract, he kept asking if I really wanted to do that to my friends.  So interested to see what this is all leading to. 
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theANdROId on May 05, 2015, 06:44:57 AM
Holy cripes on toast, what in the freak happened?!?!!  I take just a few days "off", only to come back to see that IGA is teasing us and the forum has 17 million new posts to catch up on!!  I skimmed a page or three, and I wish I had some time off work to catch up, wish hope and dream, and drool over whatever ideas I come up and whatever else shows up about this!  I'm skeptical too, but hopefulness is nearly overwhelming!
I'm gonna have to save every bit of spare change I can find so I can donate lots to a KS if one shows up.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: The Most Curious Thing on May 05, 2015, 08:14:53 AM
Got this one, too. I think there are subtle clues hidden in specific messages.

If the 3D one means what it looks like it means, that may be a deal breaker  :(
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 05, 2015, 08:41:10 AM
This is so amazing now IGA have something to show 11 may;) AWESOME.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 05, 2015, 08:46:55 AM
Gaap the Grisly of Clan Ironflail.  This is brilliant.  I've just had it ask if I was looking for secrets or answers.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 05, 2015, 08:48:25 AM
Now in Bullwhip Clan!

"Your Clan will fight other Clans for treasure.  It is the way of these things."
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 05, 2015, 09:14:51 AM
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#Decarabia the Dowdy
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 05, 2015, 09:22:32 AM
Take a break from CV and this happens. I'm getting super stoked for this, team whip all the way! Since this is Iga's dream game, how many of you guys think it's going to pull a lot of elements from his 1999 game? Obviously things will have to change since Iga can't use CV anymore, it'll be interesting to see what else gets revealed before next week.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theANdROId on May 05, 2015, 09:37:59 AM
Hooray for a slow hour... I can't believe I actually read this entire thread!
~ Astaroth the Awful, currently Iron Flail Clan
(I've been part of Bullwhip and 9 Tails though.  I voted only whip, got bullwhip... voted 1 sword, then only whip and got iron flail.  Rinse, repeat, and got 9 tails.  Rinse, repeat, and one again got Iron Flail.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 05, 2015, 09:49:32 AM
I really don't get what we are voting for.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 05, 2015, 09:57:25 AM
I am Ronove the Radical of the Katana Clan. I actually like that name.

EDIT:
YES, IGA. I WILL TAKE A DRINK. I WILL TAKE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 05, 2015, 10:10:25 AM
I am Ronove the Radical of the Katana Clan. I actually like that name.

EDIT:
YES, IGA. I WILL TAKE A DRINK. I WILL TAKE ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.

I got that too. lol Welcome to Katana!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 05, 2015, 10:15:57 AM
I got that too. lol Welcome to Katana!

From henceforth, we are brethren.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 05, 2015, 10:19:18 AM
From henceforth, we are brethren.

Sorry, but I just read that and pictured Sir Didymus from Labyrinth.   ;D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 05, 2015, 12:03:26 PM
So wait a minute... I've been reading some stuff online...
How come nobody mentioned it was Tyrone Rodriguez who first linked swordorwhip.com?
Is is not obvious that the developer will be Nicalis and it will probably be 2D?

The only reasons SOTN isnt my favorite game of all time is because of Edmund Mcmillens Binding of Isaac.
One of the guys there made Castle in the Darkness and Tyrone worked on Castlevania Order of Shadows....

If this is the case.... I will be VERY happy.

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 05, 2015, 12:15:13 PM
So wait a minute... I've been reading some stuff online...
How come nobody mentioned it was Tyrone Rodriguez who first linked swordorwhip.com?
Is is not obvious that the developer will be Nicalis and it will probably be 2D?

The only reasons SOTN isnt my favorite game of all time is because of Edmund Mcmillens Binding of Isaac.
One of the guys there made Castle in the Darkness and Tyrone worked on Castlevania Order of Shadows....

If this is the case.... I will be VERY happy.

Before this rolls into an impossibly big snowball: It was I who linked him there, and he linked it later. He has nothing to do with this, AFAIK
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 05, 2015, 12:26:07 PM
Where did you get the link?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 05, 2015, 12:30:11 PM
Where did you get the link?

Here, of course. I was here when the whole thing started.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 05, 2015, 12:41:32 PM
Niche Gamer (http://nichegamer.com/2015/05/koji-igarashis-castlevania-spiritual-successor-is-further-teased/) sent out an update that 8-4 is not working on this. The plot thickens!

Also, representing Clan Iron Flail. Though my other machines are Cat o' Nine and Bull Whip (thanks cookies!).
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 05, 2015, 12:44:34 PM
Here, of course. I was here when the whole thing started.
I did read the post before the edit. Looks like we all have a lot to look forward to!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 05, 2015, 12:59:39 PM
Wow I honestly didn't know that 99% of the board preferred whips over sword combat.

Whether that means you prefer classvania or metroidvania I don't know, but I'm seeing almost everyone who comments say they are voting for whip.

Make me feel like the minority for voting for sword lol.

That being said I do like Whip combat a lot, I feel it was done best with SCIV with the directional whipping mechanic.

But over all I just prefer the metroidvania over classvania as well as swords over whips.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 05, 2015, 01:06:23 PM
The Homunculus gave it away.

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 05, 2015, 01:12:36 PM
Wow I honestly didn't know that 99% of the board preferred whips over sword combat.

Whether that means you prefer classvania or metroidvania I don't know, but I'm seeing almost everyone who comments say they are voting for whip.

Make me feel like the minority for voting for sword lol.

That being said I do like Whip combat a lot, I feel it was done best with SCIV with the directional whipping mechanic.

But over all I just prefer the metroidvania over classvania as well as swords over whips.

I personally like the whip for a couple reasons:

-It's novel. Swords have been done to death by now. Even though whip-like weapons have also been done a lot, swords still are the "go to" weapon when you imagine the character.

-Like you mentioned, whip allows for a myriad of different, cool things both combat and platform-related.

-It's the symbol for Castlevania. Even if the game has nothing to do with Castlevania, we all know what is the intent behind it
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: whipsmemory on May 05, 2015, 01:36:24 PM
say whaaat?

[img width= height=]http://s7.postimg.org/8mx4qjwfv/other.jpg[/img]

edit:
looks like a new batch of quotes just became available:


"A new, vital heart, pulsing with the old blood."
-
"You will remain standing when the dust settles, or you will be the dust."
-
"The world falls down around us. It’s up to us few to build atop the rubble."
-
"Some moments are more powerful than others. Use that power as you would a lever."
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 05, 2015, 01:40:48 PM
say whaaat?

[img width= height=]http://s7.postimg.org/8mx4qjwfv/other.jpg[/img]

well metroidvanias do feature all sorts of weapons like spears,axes,hammers,guns etc.

I'm confused by the "when I trust you with them" part...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: whipsmemory on May 05, 2015, 01:42:33 PM
well metroidvanias do feature all sorts of weapons like spears,axes,hammers,guns etc.

I'm confused by the "when I trust you with them" part...
yeah thats for sure, tho i think this may hint that we're not actually choosing if the hero's gonna wield a whip or a sword after all
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shinobi on May 05, 2015, 01:46:39 PM
I personally like the whip for a couple reasons:

-It's novel. Swords have been done to death by now. Even though whip-like weapons have also been done a lot, swords still are the "go to" weapon when you imagine the character.

Not to mention that even during the NES era, sword as a weapon is quite too common in action or rpg games like Zelda, Castle of Dragon, Trojan, Maze of Galious, Getsufuu Maden, Sword Master, Rastan Saga, Ninja Gaiden, Frankenstein, Faxanadu, etc.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 05, 2015, 01:46:45 PM
Geez, I'll be going to sleep in a few minutes, and I can bet you guys will have 10+ pages of messages once I wake up in 7 hours. :P
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 05, 2015, 01:49:11 PM
PoR had multiple weapons, but after you unlock VK that game just clicks. Definitely more satisfying for me to whip things to death.

Also, this is new.

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 05, 2015, 02:02:27 PM
Niche Gamer (http://nichegamer.com/2015/05/koji-igarashis-castlevania-spiritual-successor-is-further-teased/) sent out an update that 8-4 is not working on this. The plot thickens!

I see that as a win to be honest.

I'd like this to not go down the same path at MN9, seeing how that's turning out.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 05, 2015, 02:07:57 PM
So I have a theory, we each get a demon's name. We are told about the destruction and reconstruction of the world/castle. What-if, you play from the villain's perspective? Conquer the world, help subjugate humanity and command Dracuiga's forces? Design castles and obstacles to block heros from attacking your lord, but help them defeat your "allies" so you can climb the ranks? Maybe generate enough influence and power to eventually overthrow Dracuiga and claim yourself as ruler?

I see that as a win to be honest.

I'd like this to not go down the same path at MN9, seeing how that's turning out.
+1 as a Becker. Not to mention I'm not a fan of a company that takes huge liberties when localizing content.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 05, 2015, 02:12:38 PM
Quote
say whaaat?

[img width= height=]http://s7.postimg.org/8mx4qjwfv/other.jpg[/img]

edit:
looks like a new batch of quotes just became available:


"A new, vital heart, pulsing with the old blood."
-
"You will remain standing when the dust settles, or you will be the dust."
-
"The world falls down around us. It’s up to us few to build atop the rubble."

the subtext tells me that these quotes in particular are a subtle shot at what's going on at Konami HQ & how theyve treated the franchise lately
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: whipsmemory on May 05, 2015, 02:34:07 PM
i probably noticed this just now but looks like whenever i click the whip the sword gets a red "-1" , did someone notice if this would happen as well before or if is it something new? Im also getting often a message about a direct clash between my clan (Cat O' Nine Tails) and Katana Clan

edit:
there it is
-Is a narrow victory over Katana all you seek? You will have to work harder.

-Your clan has a narrow lead over Katana this battle.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: The Most Curious Thing on May 05, 2015, 02:38:25 PM
i probably noticed this just now but looks like whenever i click the whip the sword gets a red "-1" , did someone notice if did this would happen as well before or is something new? Im also getting often a message about a direct clash between my clan (Cat O' Nine Tails) and Katana Clan

edit:
there it is
-Is a narrow victory over Katana all you seek? You will have to work harder.

I only just started noticing the -1, too.

And my clan (Broadsword) is currently losing to Bullwhip.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 05, 2015, 02:47:31 PM
...the subtext tells me that these quotes in particular are a subtle shot...
Good one!
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Post by: Claimh Solais on May 05, 2015, 03:16:52 PM
i probably noticed this just now but looks like whenever i click the whip the sword gets a red "-1" , did someone notice if this would happen as well before or if is it something new? Im also getting often a message about a direct clash between my clan (Cat O' Nine Tails) and Katana Clan

edit:
there it is
-Is a narrow victory over Katana all you seek? You will have to work harder.

-Your clan has a narrow lead over Katana this battle.

I noticed it too. STOP HURTING MY CLAN
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 05, 2015, 03:19:26 PM
Is is not obvious that the developer will be Nicalis
Oh holy shit. Please, no.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: whipsmemory on May 05, 2015, 03:24:42 PM
I noticed it too. STOP HURTING MY CLAN

I will not.

jk gotta go to sleep, its 12 am here have to get up early tomorrow.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 05, 2015, 03:47:39 PM
https://twitter.com/virtjk/status/595708872406540288

You fucking heard the man, people. MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!


Actually, FUCK IT, if this ends up being a real thing and not a hoax, I'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: The Puritan on May 05, 2015, 03:55:21 PM
Caim the Crumbly of the Bullwhip Clan reporting for duty.  8)

Oh holy shit. Please, no.

Oh God. I died 500+ times in Castle in the Darkness. Am I gonna have to relieve that all over again?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: uzo on May 05, 2015, 03:57:44 PM
https://twitter.com/virtjk/status/595708872406540288

You fucking heard the man, people. MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!


Actually, FUCK IT, if this ends up being a real thing and not a hoax, I'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN.

I can get behind this.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: St.Tweeter on May 05, 2015, 04:04:28 PM
I'm only with this if he's on Team Whip.


Suck it, swordies.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: FanOfDracula on May 05, 2015, 04:06:30 PM
I think the battle is doing now and will be all this week through the votes.... maybe...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: St.Tweeter on May 05, 2015, 04:09:18 PM
Well, The Dog Kaufman just confirmed he's on the right team! Whip all the way!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 05, 2015, 04:14:52 PM
Well, The Dog Kaufman just confirmed he's on the right team! Whip all the way!

Of fucking course!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 05, 2015, 04:16:57 PM
I told Mr. Kaufman "pls"
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 05, 2015, 04:20:03 PM
So when are we Clan Iron Flailers gonna create our own gang signs to flash?

Also it'd be awesome if virt could compose. It's been his dream to do an OST for Castlevania, and so far Bloodrayne was the closest he's gotten.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theANdROId on May 05, 2015, 05:27:11 PM
Looks like I'm Purson the Persistent on Iron Flail on one of my other devices. :-)  Astaroth the Awful on my cell.

OH-EM-GEE I so much want to know more!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: AkuITA on May 05, 2015, 05:31:58 PM
Is this a wonderful day ? (or a wonderful night)
I really can not hold back the hype. I am literaly consumed.
You know, whatever you make will be fine Mr.Iga
城ドラキュラ悪魔 LIVE !!!!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 05, 2015, 05:39:15 PM
Kinda funny, before this was announced(or made known as cryptically as possible), we were all in a state of doom and gloom regarding Konami's recent assery. But now, everybody's swelling with hope and eagerness and, I can't help feeling this way too!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 05, 2015, 06:13:19 PM
Looks like I'm Purson the Persistent on Iron Flail on one of my other devices. :-)  Astaroth the Awful on my cell.

OH-EM-GEE I so much want to know more!

You are a good Purson.

I'll see myself out.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 05, 2015, 06:16:06 PM
I heard some people have different sprites for their weapons now, and a scroll and clock were unlocked in their inventory. Nothing has happened for me yet, and I accidentally ended up joining Clan Bullwhip.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theANdROId on May 05, 2015, 07:27:29 PM
You are a good Purson.

I'll see myself out.

My first thought was, "Huh...he misspelled person. (nyuk nyuk nyuk!)"


Someone on here posted a picture with the scroll and clock as well.  I don't have them yet, nor do I have different sprites for either the sword or the whip.  Whatever it is, this "game" we have while we're waiting is kinda fun.  If only I knew what else it did!

EDIT: My compy now has the scroll, but not my cell.  Also, the red -1 isn't showing on either, though it was showing on the compy earlier.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 05, 2015, 07:36:31 PM
I heard some people have different sprites for their weapons now, and a scroll and clock were unlocked in their inventory. Nothing has happened for me yet, and I accidentally ended up joining Clan Bullwhip.

The clock is definitelly real. The diferent sprites for the weapons I found nothing but rumors yet.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150506C%2Fezimba14497823942404.png&hash=b02b9a850528931e53a15666f6896815)

When I clicked the clock, he said "The next battle is only hours away". When I clicked again he said "This item is still in cooldown".
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Flame on May 05, 2015, 07:44:05 PM
Dantalion the Demented, Clan Iron Flail reporting in.

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jop on May 05, 2015, 07:44:18 PM
well this is all I have, i forgott to close the page and when i see it again i have the clock

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 05, 2015, 08:02:58 PM
My page has been open for about 11 hours today and I've been clicking the sword icon about 8 times an hour. I still only have the Clan Contract.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Necklace of J on May 05, 2015, 08:28:03 PM
Gremory the Green of the Iron Flail Clan here.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 05, 2015, 09:01:14 PM
I dunno about all of you, but I personally think it's kinda cool we all got these names. I actually quite like the name Ronove, however you pronounce that. Even if this winds up being... well, not what we want it to be... at least it's not empty-handed. Ish.

...I mean, it's not exactly the best consolation prize.

...At all.

...But at least I like it.

...Right?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DonBorrelli on May 05, 2015, 09:26:53 PM
As everyone has been saying their names, I am Eligos the Egotistic (lol) from the Cat O' Nine Tails clan. Former Bullwhip member, but as many, I betrayed the whip clans just to see what happens
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: The Most Curious Thing on May 05, 2015, 09:27:59 PM
I dunno about all of you, but I personally think it's kinda cool we all got these names. I actually quite like the name Ronove, however you pronounce that. Even if this winds up being... well, not what we want it to be... at least it's not empty-handed. Ish.

...I mean, it's not exactly the best consolation prize.

...At all.

...But at least I like it.

...Right?

Well at least this is 2D. I'd rather play "Sword or Whip" than a 3D Igavania on a shoestring budget.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 05, 2015, 10:27:46 PM
As everyone has been saying their names, I am Eligos the Egotistic (lol) from the Cat O' Nine Tails clan. Former Bullwhip member, but as many, I betrayed the whip clans just to see what happens

I joined Iron Flail at first because of the link that was posted earlier in the thread and kinda betrayed the clan by accident. I'm kind of consistently in the Katana clan now.

Well at least this is 2D. I'd rather play "Sword or Whip" than a 3D Igavania on a shoestring budget.

Sword or Whip is strangely fun, honestly. I don't even know why.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 05, 2015, 10:28:17 PM
Yeah, the names are pretty interesting, especially when you go and look them up. I'm Paimon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paimon) the Passionate.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DonBorrelli on May 05, 2015, 10:38:34 PM
Katana Clan?!, the eternal enemies of the Cat O' Nine Tails  >:(
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 05, 2015, 10:42:24 PM
Katana Clan?!, the eternal enemys of the Cat O' Nine Tails  >:(

You dare show your face before a member of the Katana?!

Face me in combat, heathen! Or will you run like a kitten with your nine tails between your legs? >:D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 05, 2015, 10:44:32 PM
Guys I have a feeling for Castlevania Sotn 2 but only a felling remember last year Sotn 2 rumor on E3 rumor list but was false.

I really hope for  a new Metroidvania on 3DS PC etc.. or new Castlevania not 3D. Cant wait next week...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DonBorrelli on May 05, 2015, 10:59:19 PM
Considering the fact that it's a Igarashi project, it's most definitly a Metroidvania title. I would love to see a classicvania though...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 05, 2015, 11:59:52 PM
So it seems that I would not get those other icons since my IP address is dynamic. damn.
Thus my name changes every time I go online. hahaha. Valac the Venomous. ooooohhhh slither....

Tell me what comes out when you click those other icons, ok?

"You will remain standing when the dust settles, or you will be the dust."
I agree with whoever who said that we might be playing as Dracula's minions.

Every time I read this: "The world falls down around us. It’s up to us few to build atop the rubble."
My head starts singing the tune of "As the world falls down" from Labyrinth.
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 06, 2015, 12:02:21 AM
Well, i'm Decarambia the dirty Clan: Broadsword.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 06, 2015, 12:04:07 AM
Well, i'm Decarambia the dirty Clan: Broadsword.

The Dirty, eh?... hehehe.  8)

Sword or Whip is strangely fun, honestly. I don't even know why.
Yeah. Maybe because it is so simple? And the quotes are witty jabs at Konami with Castlevania references all throughout.

New Quote, I think.
"It is impossible to tell who will prevail. What will I do with the loser?"
--Really now?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 06, 2015, 12:19:28 AM
A new quote: A new vital heart pulsing with the old blood.

Sorry, i wrote wrong the last word......:P
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 06, 2015, 12:40:31 AM
This whole thing just oozes with the weirdness we've come to know in all the Igavanias. The what is just as interesting with the why in this, and it's just so mysterious that it's enjoyable.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 06, 2015, 12:44:34 AM
This whole thing just oozes with the weirdness we've come to know in all the Igavanias. The what is just as interesting with the why in this, and it's just so mysterious that it's enjoyable.

True. We are fans of the weird and mysterious.
They are good at teasing new info through new dialogue everyday. And still we don't get it. haha.

Another new quote:
"I like it. The way the light shines across your sickness."
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 06, 2015, 01:24:54 AM
Okay. Wake me up when something real happens, note weird clan votes and cryptic messages.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 06, 2015, 01:37:00 AM
I am also a fan of weird and mysterious things. But I'm not a fan of anything that has to do with "clans" in games. If this turns out to be some kind of MMO, even if it's a 2D platformer, I'm not backing it. Sorry.

But yeah, I'm kinda done voting for weapons now. I too shall not wake up until something real happens. Hopefully Monday.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 06, 2015, 02:14:35 AM
I believe that the clan thing, has to do with the voting and not the actual game behind this, since the voting is interactive, it's like some kind of mmo, where whip clans, fight over sword clans for dominion, over the voting.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 06, 2015, 02:54:18 AM

Every time I read this: "The world falls down around us. It’s up to us few to build atop the rubble."
My head starts singing the tune of "As the world falls down" from Labyrinth.

Glad I'm not the only one having this problem!  Labyrinth rocks. 

I've also had only the invite scroll thing, nothing aside for a couple of clan changes, with me now in Clan Cat'o Nine Tails.

Edit: I now have another scroll thing, and the new line; "The last front in an ancient war stretches across the bodies of the innocent."
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 06, 2015, 04:46:34 AM
Before we start freaking out about MMOs and GMOs and Honey Nut Cheerios, remember to read the PAX flyer this viral campaign is all about:

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWfBe7wl.png&hash=98afbc8f9bbd44e4d274c502ddb985ff)

It's clear that it's a single-player Sorrow-like metroidvania. I imagine this battle of the clans has to do with the backstory or the heroes involved.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 06, 2015, 05:01:26 AM
Well the first picture from the flyer, it's looking like a Japanese shrine...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 06, 2015, 05:31:59 AM
I'm sure I will get proven wrong soon enough, but the way that flyer is phrased ("prepare yourself, alchemist" actually could suggest some kind of multiplayer aspect. Only MMOs and so on use that kind of rhetoric in their promotional material. If not, it would be a very odd way to refer to the game's main character.

#harmonyofdespair2
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 06, 2015, 06:27:29 AM
I'm sure I will get proven wrong soon enough, but the way that flyer is phrased ("prepare yourself, alchemist" actually could suggest some kind of multiplayer aspect. Only MMOs and so on use that kind of rhetoric in their promotional material. If not, it would be a very odd way to refer to the game's main character.

#harmonyofdespair2

That would explain the multiplayer mechanic in this teaser. I hope a combination, ala Souls: have the main game be whatever it is, and overlap a multiplayer system where clans fight for treasure, presumably in multiplayer dungeons. That stipulation would make the most sense for a 2D game.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 06, 2015, 06:30:44 AM
Well i like to thing that the alchemist aspect has something to do with combining materials for making equipment and other stuff, than being something associated with MMO.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 06, 2015, 07:14:21 AM
I'll gladly take a HoD spiritual successor.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 06, 2015, 07:23:13 AM
The forging reminds me of CoD.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: whipsmemory on May 06, 2015, 07:28:39 AM
#harmonyofdespair2


(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.somegif.com%2Fgifs%2F13884069511213635131.GIF&hash=0871d9a396d946b33e6f46a7ee31ae13)

no seriously, HoD is okay, but after all these years I'd be quite frustrated with a new Castlevania-inspired game by IGA being a multiplayer game of some sort
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 06, 2015, 08:10:16 AM
That would explain the multiplayer mechanic in this teaser. I hope a combination, ala Souls: have the main game be whatever it is, and overlap a multiplayer system where clans fight for treasure, presumably in multiplayer dungeons. That stipulation would make the most sense for a 2D game.

Yeah, that would definitely be best, IMO.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jop on May 06, 2015, 09:08:02 AM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fpn3x0X5.png&hash=3525feae29afa970dc616b24b9e89b84)

We want Blood!!!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 06, 2015, 11:50:24 AM
mann multiplayer is cool and all but, eh i dunno. I almost always get bored with that stuff. I played harmony of despair for like a week or 2, havent touched it since. im not into the social apps like clash of clans or anything. even the multiplayer that was in portrait of Ruin, i tried that only like 2 or 3 times. i just get bored with that stuff too easily

however if Nagumo decides to play then i would have no choice but to join o.o;
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 06, 2015, 01:39:06 PM
New text!

"The moon looks lovely tonight, don't you think, Paimon the Passionate?"
"This game you and I are playing will soon be over. There will be another, if you're worthy."
"The scientists may be right. But the alchemists are powerful."
"What a wonderful night to have a-- but I am repeating myself."
"I am building a graveyard. Thank you for helping me dig."
"You are like me, I suspect. You listen when the night calls."
"The items are useful. They are revealing. They are no substitute for sheer numbers."

Some may not be exact since I got too excited to report. c_c
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 06, 2015, 02:43:13 PM
New text!

"The moon looks lovely tonight, don't you think, Paimon the Passionate?"
"This game you and I are playing will soon be over. There will be another, if you're worthy."
"The scientists may be right. But the alchemists are powerful."
"What a wonderful night to have a-- but I am repeating myself."
"I am building a graveyard. Thank you for helping me dig."
"You are like me, I suspect. You listen when the night calls."
"The items are useful. They are revealing. They are no substitute for sheer numbers."

Some may not be exact since I got too excited to report. c_c

So bad@$$! I got these:

There will be other weapons of course, when I trust you with them.
Your clan and the bullwhip clan are at a stalemate. Who among you will be brave to push forward.
A new vital heart, pulsing with old the blood.
The moon looks lovely tonight don't you think Decarabia the Dowdy.

You are like me I assume, you listen when the night calls.

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theANdROId on May 06, 2015, 02:58:30 PM
I still don't have the scroll on my cell, and I don't have the watch on either device.  Anyone figured out how to get these?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 06, 2015, 03:43:03 PM
I still don't have the scroll on my cell, and I don't have the watch on either device.  Anyone figured out how to get these?
http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/34w5hi/sword_or_whip_koji_igarashis_teaser_for_his_next/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/34w5hi/sword_or_whip_koji_igarashis_teaser_for_his_next/)

Go there. Also I think the watch was for only the first day if you were on one of the first battle's winning clans.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 06, 2015, 04:40:48 PM
I wonder if those graphics (Igacula on the throne, the whip, the sword and so on) are just made for this site? I don't see the game having sprites like that... do you? I mean, sure Shovel Knight have some 8-bit sprites and looks cool, but... I'd like at least 16-bit goodness. And judging by the tiny screenshots on the PAX flyer, the game looks much prettier than these sprites. Also, the portrait of Igacula is radically different from the sprites. They don't go together at all. I hope it's going for THAT look, at least.

Do you think Ayami Kojima did the IGA portrait, btw? It wouldn't surprise me. Or is it just a modified Dracula from SotN? Have to check the original to be sure...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 06, 2015, 04:56:05 PM
I wonder if those graphics (Igacula on the throne, the whip, the sword and so on) are just made for this site? I don't see the game having sprites like that... do you? I mean, sure Shovel Knight have some 8-bit sprites and looks cool, but... I'd like at least 16-bit goodness. And judging by the tiny screenshots on the PAX flyer, the game looks much prettier than these sprites. Also, the portrait of Igacula is radically different from the sprites. They don't go together at all. I hope it's going for THAT look, at least.

Do you think Ayami Kojima did the IGA portrait, btw? It wouldn't surprise me. Or is it just a modified Dracula from SotN? Have to check the original to be sure...

Right now I'm sure those graphics are not final.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DonBorrelli on May 06, 2015, 05:20:27 PM
I tried the site from another device,  got into the bullwhip clan and it stills talks about the Katana as our rivals. I though they were the cat o' nine tails enemies e.e
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 06, 2015, 06:12:36 PM
Igacula sprite reminds me somehow that I still need to play Kid Dracula
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 06, 2015, 06:27:35 PM
If IGA needs help with sprites I could definitely lend a hand if need be. :P
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: KaZudra on May 06, 2015, 07:07:03 PM
So how exactly does the voting work? There doesn't seem to be any links.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jop on May 06, 2015, 07:13:15 PM
One more yeah

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbI9PFc5.png&hash=0354fe0df5b64661d7042d6435deaf87)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theANdROId on May 06, 2015, 07:56:04 PM
Thanks for the link darkmanx, but I didn't happen to see anything in there.  Anyway, I suddenly seem to have the clock now.  I wonder if you get them based on how long you've had the site open?
Has anyone seen the quote that says something along the lines of: "The weapons are helpful.  Nothing is better than sheer numbers" ?!?  (I don't remember exactly what it said...and it got away before I could type it up.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 06, 2015, 08:56:43 PM
I hope that this game only has the multiplayer part as optional with the single player campaign having the full story.
I can't guarantee that I can play this game if multiplayer is required. Stupid slow internet....
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: The Most Curious Thing on May 06, 2015, 10:41:55 PM
I hope that this game only has the multiplayer part as optional with the single player campaign having the full story.
I can't guarantee that I can play this game if multiplayer is required. Stupid slow internet....

I hope that this game also has the 3D part as optional. I can't guarantee I'll play it if it's not 2D  :(
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 06, 2015, 11:20:33 PM
By the way, did anyone make a compilation of all the names that Igavania has bestowed?

This is too funny: "Naberius the Nameless"
= How can you be nameless if you have a name?  ;D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 06, 2015, 11:30:27 PM
I think a vast majority of the fanbase is looking for a great single player experience. It's what Castlevania is about, and it's what sets us apart from Call of Duty fans (even if it's totally fine to be a fan of both, I guess.)

Multiplayer should be secondary, if it's even necessary at all. I know the gaming landscape has changed since the good old days, and a lot of people want the option to play online. So I'm all for an optional multiplayer thing, with extra maps fit for the job. I'll never touch it myself, but I'm happy if it makes other people happy.

I realize I play games on my own to relax and get AWAY from all the people I have to deal with on a daily basis. Gaming is "my time"! Others play games to socialize and I respect that. I just sort of... hate people. They're everywhere!  :o
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: JR on May 07, 2015, 12:30:57 AM
Everything's been extremely repetitive for me, but that might be because I've picked the whip every time.

Is there really any other choice? j/k
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 07, 2015, 12:50:06 AM
I like how we are hoping for a game, making theories, while knowing nothing. And BOOM, it's a book. lol
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 07, 2015, 12:56:36 AM
I like how we are hoping for a game, making theories, while knowing nothing. And BOOM, it's a book. lol

And not just any book - a COOK BOOK!
This is IGA we're talking about after all, and if you follow him on facebook you know how much he loves food.

Finally we'll be able to cook wall meat!

Or:

"IGAs Favorite Beverages vol 1: Portrait of Brewin'
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DonBorrelli on May 07, 2015, 12:59:06 AM
I like how we are hoping for a game, making theories, while knowing nothing. And BOOM, it's a book. lol

lol, a book would be cool, though.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 07, 2015, 06:35:06 AM
I think a vast majority of the fanbase is looking for a great single player experience. It's what Castlevania is about, and it's what sets us apart from Call of Duty fans...
Harmony of Despair = Call of Duty.

Let's go home everybody. Who gives a shit about this Iga guy. Let's just go play some good old CoD.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 07, 2015, 07:28:41 AM
I am going back to the whip and changing clans, you don't get jack for the Katana Clan.

EDIT: nan back to Katana.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 07, 2015, 08:06:44 AM
I really like how Dark Souls does mutliplayer, if they incorporated that kind of system, where it was single-player but you could invade each other's worlds, that would be pretty cool.

Would love an Iga cookbook too tho.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 07, 2015, 08:15:25 AM
I would buy the ever lovin' heck out of a CV-themed cook book. Hmm...I wonder if it's possible to make wall meat out of a shank of lamb, bread and food coloring...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Maedhros on May 07, 2015, 08:20:37 AM
I like how we are hoping for a game, making theories, while knowing nothing. And BOOM, it's a book. lol
I like how you guys keep ignoring that people already said it'll be a game and it's a kickstarter.

I'm not talking about you, specifically, but everyone still thinking that it's:

- a mobile game
- a browser game
- a multiplayer game

It'll be a not castlevania game, for MANY platforms (with PC almost guaranteed), with a possibly multiplayer COMPONENT.

Quote this.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 07, 2015, 08:21:40 AM
I like how you guys keep ignoring that people already said it'll be a game and it's a kickstarter.
Humor anyone? ;)

Just excited and the wait is killing.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 07, 2015, 08:37:14 AM
Cookbook will be mostly recipes for wall chicken!

My copy of The Lesser Key of Solomon just shipped yay!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Maedhros on May 07, 2015, 08:39:23 AM
Humor anyone? ;)

Just excited and the wait is killing.
I edited the post above
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 07, 2015, 10:29:50 AM
Are we still aiming for the May 11th deadline?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 07, 2015, 11:58:25 AM
Are we still aiming for the May 11th deadline?

No reason to see why that would change. It matches up with the moon reference, and someone teased an actual KS starting on the 11th, presumably this.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 07, 2015, 03:09:05 PM
A couple of new messages. They're getting more and more hostile! Such as this:

"Ironic, isn't it, that I can only destroy you with your help?"

And something like:

"We will bring back what was lost, or die trying. That is, you will die trying"

This is getting interesting.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jop on May 07, 2015, 03:17:26 PM

"We will bring back what has been lost, or we will die trying. That is, you will die trying."

OMG XD
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 07, 2015, 03:19:40 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FhFeGl%2F522053c59e.png&hash=7b8e021b5836bba8cac3bf444a4fbeb5)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 07, 2015, 03:22:28 PM
"The weapon which most inspires dread will prevail."
"I am impressed with your skill. Careful you don't back-dash right into my trap."
"Be greedy with the moonlight now. For it may be some time before you drink of it again."
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 07, 2015, 03:30:31 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FhFeGl%2F522053c59e.png&hash=7b8e021b5836bba8cac3bf444a4fbeb5)
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Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 07, 2015, 04:00:11 PM
I'm not sure if this has been comented on yet but...

Have you noticed how every day each clan has fought a different clan? IronFlail will have fought all other sword clans already by the end of today.

Now... What happens when there are no swords to fight against? Will Draculiga turn whips against whips?

Also, new lines:
How can you protect the ones you love when the thing that threatens them is inside you?

She runs from herself. What does she run toward?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 07, 2015, 04:35:48 PM
I'm not sure if this has been comented on yet but...

Have you noticed how every day each clan has fought a different clan? IronFlail will have fought all other sword clans already by the end of today.

Now... What happens when there are no swords to fight against? Will Draculiga turn whips against whips?

Also, new lines:
How can you protect the ones you love when the thing that threatens them is inside you?

She runs from herself. What does she run toward?

Maybe another round of swords vs whips?
Draculiga or Igacula?

Female protag?

"I am impressed with your skill. Careful you don't back-dash right into my trap."
"Be greedy with the moonlight now. For it may be some time before you drink of it again."

Alucard-ish protag?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 07, 2015, 04:51:10 PM
i hope we get a truly huge castle, one that we can easily get lost in. last time i had that feeling of getting confused where 2 go next was playing harmony of dissonance for the 1st time (even after replaying it several years later, sometimes i had to consult a guide cuz i forgot what two do). but that was mainly cuz of the dual castle aspect. hopefully they can incorporate that same feeling but with 1 castle (or 2, i honestly dnt care at this point. just make it interesting with gothic atmosphere & fun gameplay with boobytraps everywhere)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 07, 2015, 04:55:41 PM
Ironic, isn’t it, that I can only destroy you with your help?

Eh??
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 07, 2015, 04:59:47 PM
Ironic, isn’t it, that I can only destroy you with your help?

Eh??

Hmmm... protag goes down a dark path with good intentions? or vice versa?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 07, 2015, 05:04:53 PM
Quote
Ironic, isn’t it, that I can only destroy you with your help?

Eh??

subtext reads hes trying to build a game with our help, that also challenges us & hard for us to beat
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 07, 2015, 05:12:10 PM
subtext reads hes trying to build a game with our help, that also challenges us & hard for us to beat

That's what I though too. "I can only be the final boss and kill you if you actually fund this shit. So get to it, goddammit."
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 07, 2015, 06:05:31 PM
Okay now I think this MIGHT be something online-related. Just imagine if IGA has actually acquired the rights for Castlevania and has developed some kind of engine for you to create your own "igavania".

Just imagine.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150508C%2Fezimba14497840482104.png&hash=28911f884d99fd4ddf3660da136d8ff3)

Important note: The text is selected because I was going to copy+paste. But I noticed that printing worked much better, So I printed this juuuuuust before it disappeared. I swear this is not manipulated (which is what the selected text makes it looks like).
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: riverman on May 07, 2015, 06:07:13 PM
"Monday morning 11. I suppose you can watch"
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 07, 2015, 06:23:25 PM
One more

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150508C%2Fezimba14497835183604.png&hash=0eafe4bf692a8e0d0d85144a850b796d)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Maedhros on May 07, 2015, 06:29:49 PM
See? Next Monday, a new Iga game!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 07, 2015, 08:32:09 PM
Okay now I think this MIGHT be something online-related. Just imagine if IGA has actually acquired the rights for Castlevania and has developed some kind of engine for you to create your own "igavania".

Just imagine.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150508C%2Fezimba14497840482104.png&hash=28911f884d99fd4ddf3660da136d8ff3)


I'm surprised the term "Igavania" is used throughout this at all. It may very well be something that the Castlevania Dungeon came up with in the first place. I can't say for sure but here's where I heard it first. It was a way for us to separate the different games and its producers. Also, this is not supposed to be a Vania at all.

Anyway, that message sounds more like something that has to do with the actual Kickstarter. That we - the players - are meeting them - the developers - on Kickstarter to see what we can do together! The "New World" could just be a way to describe crowdfunding. Dunno.

I am ridiculously hyped. Need to calm down. I'm gonna pretend this is a Candy Crush clone, so that my expectations are lowered.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gambit Belmont on May 07, 2015, 08:43:57 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FhFvSz%2Ff47785bb72.png&hash=2994312af4cadbd94b1992ae16315fd2)


WAT DUZ EET MEEEEEEEEEAN~~~~
 :o
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 07, 2015, 08:45:46 PM
If it turns out it's all for a mobile game I will flip the Knights of the Round Table's table.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gambit Belmont on May 07, 2015, 08:48:48 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FhFw5n%2Fbdba6387e8.png&hash=cd6d7e9d1bbe3050e892a41fcb09493f)

^ Actually, I think I know what he could be referring to by this.

It's probably referring to us, the fans, trying to get our classic vania goodness back in some form.  Effectively "take back" Castlevania similarily to how Inafune would be wanting to "take bad" Megaman.

That could be what he means by "you will die trying."  It can only succeed with our support.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 07, 2015, 09:11:56 PM
subtext reads hes trying to build a game with our help, that also challenges us & hard for us to beat
I can only hope.

Crazy thought, but what if IGA furthered the formula he had going in OoE where it felt like a nice mesh of Classicvania and Metroidvania and we can expect something along the lines of the training room from OoE for an entire game?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 07, 2015, 09:19:00 PM
Anyway, that message sounds more like something that has to do with the actual Kickstarter. That we - the players - are meeting them - the developers - on Kickstarter to see what we can do together! The "New World" could just be a way to describe crowdfunding. Dunno.

In fact, "New World" capitalized like that makes me think that he's referring specifically to the Americas. I'll go off a limb to say the he might indeed come to the USA just so he can set something up.

One thing: I went to /v/ and there are some people using my fanart of the site as if something had happened. It's not real, it's just a fanart.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 07, 2015, 09:29:37 PM
I just got the Igavania message too. Weeeeeeird.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 07, 2015, 10:03:51 PM
What are the odds of the final boss in the game being Dracula? There's absolutely nothing stopping IGA from doing it. I wonder what would happen if he put Dracula, Death, Medusa, Succubus, the Mummies etcetera, in the game? Could Konami do anything about it? It's very different from, say, Mighty no 9 where they can't possibly use any of the classic Mega Man bosses (their names are probably protected somehow). But Castlevania bosses? I mean, we can't have the more specific ones like...dunno, Shaft. Or Isaac. But the rest?

Not that I think this will happen, and I am all for a fresh start with new stuff. But technically I think it would be possible to make a game that uses plenty of Castlevania characters. Though maybe Konami could claim some kind of trademark infrigement anyway...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: The Most Curious Thing on May 07, 2015, 10:08:57 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3C84o2n.png&hash=ba3dee947cb37394df6cf74e5354a0f9)

Oh hell yes. Look, I don't care if it's 3D or if it's online or if it's sodding Igavania Puzzle: Encore of the Night. There's back-dashing in the game. This thing's going to work out.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jop on May 07, 2015, 10:16:44 PM
And here is the 5th

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpajEF1B.png&hash=bea3c4a8856c2b0192c159455134abf9)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: RichterB on May 07, 2015, 11:05:23 PM
Looking forward to more news! Very interesting. I'm hoping for some whip-cracking action-platforming!

Messages:
"Have you dabbled in the alchemical arts?"
"Your consistency is impressive. But do you even know what you're doing?"
"From now on, I will call you Gusion the Gauche. You may call me sir."

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Little Dracula on May 07, 2015, 11:17:06 PM
I got one today saying something like "Monday 11 morning, I suppose you can watch".
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 07, 2015, 11:25:22 PM
YESSSSSSS!

http://puu.sh/hFoyj/bf529b01ba.png (http://puu.sh/hFoyj/bf529b01ba.png)
http://puu.sh/hFozU/36fee0228d.png (http://puu.sh/hFozU/36fee0228d.png)

Link: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1039738&page=28 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1039738&page=28)

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Zuljaras on May 08, 2015, 02:00:42 AM
I just hope whatever it is, to be on the 3DS or NEW 3DS. I want beautiful side-scrolling, RPG, Castlevnia-ish, ENORMOUS game.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 08, 2015, 02:33:50 AM
I just hope whatever it is, to be on the 3DS or NEW 3DS. I want beautiful side-scrolling, RPG, Castlevnia-ish, ENORMOUS game.

I think we can at least expect a 3DS release to be one of the stretch goals on the kickstarter. Unless they're targetting PS4/XBOne which might make the game too demanding graphically. Though nothing suggests "cutting edge" graphics at this point.

 I really dig having a map on the bottom (or top) screen, so 3DS is my most wanted platform too. Though I wouldn't mind a Vita release either because the screen is so pretty...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 08, 2015, 03:27:42 AM
If this is going to the 3DS. I'm gonna be so happy.  :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: LoneChild on May 08, 2015, 03:35:52 AM
PC (steam) and then as much porting to other platforms as the KS goals can get (preferency for 3DS here), is the way to go in my opinion. If you think about it, PC permits some interesing modding (not really into it myself) and an eventual map editor (wich i´ve dreamed about for so many years).

Anyway this looks like the real thing. I'm not worried about this baby turning into some MMO Frankenstein or casual mobile phone game at all, it would be ridiculous if IGA just left Konami for such a project. We'll see about it this monday, anyway.

In the meantime, and seeing how much attention we get from the man himself and the game media, we could start a new, specific thread to put our hopes and opinions on the table, served with some order and good taste. After all, we are the hard-core (in many ways) of the CV community and it seems like we really matter, for the first time.

...oh, and cheers to all the old buddies around  :)  Glad to surf the giant hype wave along with you, again!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 08, 2015, 04:38:36 AM
I'm sick of portablevanias...just saying
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: angevil on May 08, 2015, 04:58:16 AM
I hope it will be released on Wii U. I can`t believe IGA is back, I hope such high hopes! I was disappointed when he said he put this game on hold. I haven`t been so excited since the leaked image of Order of Ecclesia. I love Igavanias, especially Aria and Ecclesia. I enjoyed them all and replayed them many times. Ecclesia was his perfect last game, having nice artwork (after anime inspired DOS and POR) and a great combination of smaller areas/levels and a great beautiful castle. Bosses were fantastic. Now, IGA has had many years to think about a new game (more than before, between released games), so this game could be everything IGA fans wish for!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Charlie Walden on May 08, 2015, 05:17:28 AM
And here is the 5th

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpajEF1B.png&hash=bea3c4a8856c2b0192c159455134abf9)

Has some one understood how to unlock these icons? I have only the first scroll and I'm quite always on the website.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 08, 2015, 05:24:31 AM
I'm surprised the term "Igavania" is used throughout this at all. It may very well be something that the Castlevania Dungeon came up with in the first place.

It was meant to be derisive, if I recall, because IGA's games weren't "real" Castlevania games for "real" Castlevania fans. It's not like CotM was called KO-G-Vania. But it looks like IGA don't give a fuck and will claim it as his own now. 
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kamirine on May 08, 2015, 07:08:23 AM
Did you guys see this on the neogaf thread,

Take the following with a MOUNTAIN of salt, but the following comes from /v/. I will quote it verbatim.

"It's real. Game is going to be called Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night. Kickstarter goes live May 11th. Main character is NotShanoa named Miriam. She has rune tattoos on her body. NotAlucard will be named Gebel.

Screen cap this."

The same user mentioned Michiru Yamane is on board as composer.

After some of the messages I've read in here and have received myself (particularly the one about a woman running away from herself/power/something), I'm beginning to think this is sounding more and more true. 

Anywho, in the event that this game proves to look awesome enough to fund (my hype won't let me think otherwise) how much are you guys planning on donating?  $20 is my minimum so far; more will depend on goals, a certain amount to get the beta if available, ect.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 08, 2015, 07:31:54 AM
Around $40 or so, $20 as a minimum too.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: e105beta on May 08, 2015, 08:09:42 AM
As long as I can equip notShanoa like a notBelmont, then I'll be set.

Also now that IGA's not with Konami, he legally cannot make another asset recycle. That's probably what I'm most excited about.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 08, 2015, 08:18:38 AM
This is probably the first time in 7 years I've been excited for a (Not)Castlevania.

Also holy shit OoE was released 7 years ago. Lords 5 years ago...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 08, 2015, 08:21:15 AM
Depending on the rewards tiers I'll probably drop $100~$150.

So from I can gather with the latest messages is there'll be a livestream where Iga reveals the next project on Monday the 11th. So we'll either see something Sunday night or Monday morning, taking into account time zone differences. I'm guessing sword or whip will provide us with a link when the time comes.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 08, 2015, 08:27:54 AM
I'll probably give him 50 euros, i'm not in a good financial condition, even  though i have a job, because i don't get paid......they owe me over 2000 euros......
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 08, 2015, 08:30:23 AM
This is probably the first time in 7 years I've been excited for a (Not)Castlevania.
Same here. Too bad I can't help but feel it being most likely a (Not)Castlevania puts a slight damper on things. Then again, maybe this will turn out to be more interesting. I'm already glad it's not more LoS.

edit: By the way, won't they get in trouble using that edited SotN artwork on the website? It has IGA's face pasted on it, but it seems like something petty to get sued over.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: e105beta on May 08, 2015, 10:34:05 AM
Same here. Too bad I can't help but feel it being most likely a (Not)Castlevania puts a slight damper on things. Then again, maybe this will turn out to be more interesting. I'm already glad it's not more LoS.

edit: By the way, won't they get in trouble using that edited SotN artwork on the website? It has IGA's face pasted on it, but it seems like something petty to get sued over.

It's technically a new image

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2Fekn7ma.jpg&hash=f302bd3fb2ba0d10d0ef8ea1dff998ec)

Though this whole project could come under copyright violation if they're not careful. I hope it doesn't, but it's treading the line, especially with IGA's owning of IGAvania.

EDIT: Is anyone else at all worried this may be revealed as a phone game?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kamirine on May 08, 2015, 11:01:34 AM
I was worried at first that it may be a mobile game, but I remembered the original flyer and the images on it, so I'm hoping it's going more in that way.  Plus, I couldn't see him needing a kickstarter for a mobile game, nor people that are in the know (if this is what they are more than likely referring to) being excited about a mobile game. 

As for the copywrite issue: I dunno.  A lot of the enemies, including Dracula, are free domain.  The idea itself can't be copy written, so there is nothing to stop him having a protagonist entering an antagonist's castle who just happens to have monsters inside it attacking people. 

Copy write is a tricky subject, but I think IGA will be fine.  It's kinds like Marvel and DC making the same type of characters, Coke and Pepsi making the same type of drinks, or a lot of these spiritual succesor games in general: as long as it isn't exactly the same and enough is changed, he can get away with it.  More so since a lot of Castlevania's stuff is free domain.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 08, 2015, 11:06:31 AM
Same here. Too bad I can't help but feel it being most likely a (Not)Castlevania puts a slight damper on things.
That's inevitable when you've become so attached to a series for a long time.

As long as this new retains the spirit and reasons why we loved Castlevania I think the transition from one IP to another for fans will be a pretty easy one. I just want more to leak so I know I should be excited...

3 days left!
As long as I can equip notShanoa like a notBelmont, then I'll be set.
This is the dream for me right now too.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 08, 2015, 12:02:32 PM
i wouldn't necessarily call it like coke/pepsi or marvel/dc, as those companies have more of a friendly rivalry relationship going on for decades. iga doesn't even have his own company(yet) and if he did it would take years to get as huge as konami is(was)

but as 4 copyright infringement, look @ mighty #9 which is essentially megaman rebooted, yet Capcom never put a seize & desist order out or anything so i think iga will be fine in this regard

however, that doesn't mean i want him to rehash the Dracula mythos. he should draw heavy on Japanese mythology like he did with aria, so many other cultures have their own demonic deities that have yet to be realized & this is a perfect opportunity for iga & team to take advantage of that
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 08, 2015, 01:56:15 PM
"
???:
Why do you enter my castle, Gaap the Grisly? Is it simply fate that connects us?
"
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kirie on May 08, 2015, 01:56:48 PM
Some new quotes we gathered over on Neogaf :)

??: He is a hero, or a villain. But what is a hero?
??: The ritual is nearly complete.
??: Why do you enter my castle, Focalor the Filthy? Is it simply fate that connects us?
??: They tell me it’s been far too long. Time... feels different, in my condition.
??: I have seen you make fools of powerful enemies. I have watched you warp through obstacles, exploit every advantage. I have watched you cheat. Good.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 08, 2015, 02:13:50 PM
I just got those lines as well. :)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 08, 2015, 03:12:02 PM
Estebant = Vepar the Vehement
Theplottwist = Leraje the Limber
Shelverton = Belial the Bleak
Oniros = Furfur the Fine
Beingthehero = Orias the Outcast
Shiroi Koumori = Astaroth the Analog
Jop = Leraje the Loagy
Kingshango = Furfur the Fall
Kaori = Corcell the Craggy
AxeLord = Glasya the Grubby
Somanyte = Decarabia the Destroyer
Dracula9 = Malphas the Mad
Neobelmont = Forneus the Frigid
Nagumo = Dantalion the Dodgy
Whipsmemory = Amy the Aggrieved
JR = Seere the Surreptitious
Kamirine = Zepar the Zippy
tatteredseraph = Gaap the Grisly
theANdROId = Astaroth the Awful/Purson the Persistent
Claimh Solais = Ronove the Radical
The Puritan = Caim the Crumbly
Flame = Dantalion the Demented
Necklace of J = Gremory the Green
DonBorrelli = Eligos the Egotistic
TheCruelAngel = Paimon the Passionate
Dark Nemesis = Decarabia the Dirty
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 08, 2015, 03:34:16 PM
Chiming in:
I'm "Haagenti the Hazy". xD
of Clan Iron Flail. :3
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kirie on May 08, 2015, 03:40:40 PM
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So exciting! :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kamirine on May 08, 2015, 03:48:09 PM
i wouldn't necessarily call it like coke/pepsi or marvel/dc, as those companies have more of a friendly rivalry relationship going on for decades. iga doesn't even have his own company(yet) and if he did it would take years to get as huge as konami is(was)

but as 4 copyright infringement, look @ mighty #9 which is essentially megaman rebooted, yet Capcom never put a seize & desist order out or anything so i think iga will be fine in this regard

however, that doesn't mean i want him to rehash the Dracula mythos. he should draw heavy on Japanese mythology like he did with aria, so many other cultures have their own demonic deities that have yet to be realized & this is a perfect opportunity for iga & team to take advantage of that

Though I agree in large part with this entire post, I didn't mean their relationship so to speak, just the bare bones fact that their products share a lot of similarities other than just making the same thing, even if they are in a competition on friendly terms. 

IGA could make the exact same game honestly  and as long as uses none of the resources from the Castlevania series (artwork, engine, sprite work, music, etc.) he'll be absolutely fine.  As you pointed out, just look at Mighty No. 9.  (Or Axiom Verge and Freedom Plant for that matter, but maybe not as blatant.)

As for him actually using Dracula and everything, I admit, my feelings are complicated and kinda ties into what Nagumo  was saying earlier.  Like I want it to be Castlevania but since it technically isn't, I want it to be its own game, not just literally CV without the name.  Maybe try other mythos, like you said Crisis.  Then when it's that, I'll want to play an official Castlevania game but get weird because there (probably) won't be a new one out.  All the while feeling guilty about not liking LoS for not being Castlevania enough because it has the name Castlevania on it.

Kinda like how I love Freedom Planet but resent it for not being an actual Sonic game, while disliking Sonic 4 for getting the feeling of classic Sonic wrong, even if it isn't that bad or completely unplayable.

I'm just weird like that.  :P

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Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: JR on May 08, 2015, 03:48:50 PM

Anywho, in the event that this game proves to look awesome enough to fund (my hype won't let me think otherwise) how much are you guys planning on donating?  $20 is my minimum so far; more will depend on goals, a certain amount to get the beta if available, ect.

If I see a good swag package, I'll probably do that...no more than like $300 or so (though it would be hard for me to justify spending that much money on something frivolous right now).
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 08, 2015, 03:51:53 PM
I'm also Marax the Mythical, of Clan Katana (was previously in Clan Rapier, until I accidentally clicked on the whip), on my phone.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 08, 2015, 03:53:36 PM
Am to Pm?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 08, 2015, 03:54:01 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FhGp1E%2F434b9d88c3.png&hash=af60b23004d045649af19dee1f81d5c9)

deep...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kirie on May 08, 2015, 03:54:38 PM
Quote from: Kamirine

Thank you and welcome to the board.

Thank you kindly! Happy to be here :)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 08, 2015, 03:58:48 PM
What if he makes a Castlevania game with crowdsourced sprites and stuff? That would be insane!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 08, 2015, 04:09:07 PM
"They tell me it’s been far too long. Time... feels different, in my condition."

"He is a hero, or a villain. But what is a hero?"

"Ironic, isn’t it, that I can only destroy you with your help?"
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 08, 2015, 04:23:27 PM
Estebant = Vepar the Vehement
Theplottwist = Leraje the Limber
Shelverton = Belial the Bleak
Oniros = Furfur the Fine
Beingthehero = Orias the Outcast
Shiroi Koumori = Astaroth the Analog
Jop = Leraje the Loagy
Kingshango = Furfur the Fall
Kaori = Corcell the Craggy
AxeLord = Glasya the Grubby
Somanyte = Decarabia the Destroyer
Dracula9 = Malphas the Mad
Neobelmont = Forneus the Frigid
Nagumo = Dantalion the Dodgy
Whipsmemory = Amy the Aggrieved
JR = Seere the Surreptitious
Kamirine = Zepar the Zippy
tatteredseraph = Gaap the Grisly
theANdROId = Astaroth the Awful/Purson the Persistent
Claimh Solais = Ronove the Radical
The Puritan = Caim the Crumbly
Flame = Dantalion the Demented
Necklace of J = Gremory the Green
DonBorrelli = Eligos the Egotistic
TheCruelAngel = Paimon the Passionate
Dark Nemesis = Decarabia the Dirty
Marax the Messy here.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: riverman on May 08, 2015, 04:54:48 PM
Im Vual the Venerable
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: deadsanto123 on May 08, 2015, 05:42:57 PM
Estebant = Vepar the Vehement
Theplottwist = Leraje the Limber
Shelverton = Belial the Bleak
Oniros = Furfur the Fine
Beingthehero = Orias the Outcast
Shiroi Koumori = Astaroth the Analog
Jop = Leraje the Loagy
Kingshango = Furfur the Fall
Kaori = Corcell the Craggy
AxeLord = Glasya the Grubby
Somanyte = Decarabia the Destroyer
Dracula9 = Malphas the Mad
Neobelmont = Forneus the Frigid
Nagumo = Dantalion the Dodgy
Whipsmemory = Amy the Aggrieved
JR = Seere the Surreptitious
Kamirine = Zepar the Zippy
tatteredseraph = Gaap the Grisly
theANdROId = Astaroth the Awful/Purson the Persistent
Claimh Solais = Ronove the Radical
The Puritan = Caim the Crumbly
Flame = Dantalion the Demented
Necklace of J = Gremory the Green
DonBorrelli = Eligos the Egotistic
TheCruelAngel = Paimon the Passionate
Dark Nemesis = Decarabia the Dirty
Bune the Boorish here
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 08, 2015, 05:44:56 PM
What if he makes a Castlevania game with crowdsourced sprites and stuff? That would be insane!

Don't tease me like that, dude.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Oniros on May 08, 2015, 05:57:27 PM
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So exciting! :D
This is it. This is when I become poor again. :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 08, 2015, 06:02:47 PM
May 11th from 11am - 7pm PST"

11-7? Holy shit....
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 08, 2015, 06:13:20 PM
The guys from Kinda Funny Games will probably be streaming a bunch of Castlevania games leading up to IGA's reveal of the new kickstarter.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jop on May 08, 2015, 07:30:33 PM
I still dont know how the items appear.

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Ralph on May 08, 2015, 07:48:38 PM
Halphas the Hackneyed reporting in.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 08, 2015, 07:55:53 PM
You know, I wonder if there's any chance for the CV Dungeon to be represented in this new game, since we've been the top CV fansite for so long. Maybe there'll be a handsome foreign vampire hunter character named Jorge, with a magic talking cat sidekick named Gunlord. :3
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 08, 2015, 08:05:23 PM
I just want to know when Dave Cox announces his own Kickstarter to reboot IGA's kickstarter, but make it more edgy and raw.

"Forget everything you know about Kickstarter."
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: uzo on May 08, 2015, 08:09:12 PM
I just want to know when Dave Cox announces his own Kickstarter to reboot IGA's kickstarter, but make it more edgy and raw.

"Forget everything you know about Kickstarter."

WIN
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Little Dracula on May 08, 2015, 08:09:40 PM
So after the stream they will launch the KS?. Really inconvinient hours for Europe :/
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 08, 2015, 09:03:15 PM
Going by EST that's 2-10 PM. So 10 PM Monday, we'll see the game.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 08, 2015, 09:58:34 PM
I got these new ones for now:
"The ritual is nearly complete."
"Be greedy with the moonlight now. It could be some time before you drink of it again."
"We will enter the stream with nothing. We will leave it with the future."
"Why do you enter my castle, Focalor the Frigid? Is it simply fate that connects us?"
"We are meeting in the New World. An army of Igavania players and developers."
"The past day both sides are very close to each other."
"I have seen you make fools of powerful enemies. I have watched you warp through obstacles, exploit every advantage. I have watched you cheat. Good."
"The weapon you begin with is my choice. What you end with could be yours."



Yes, Im Focalor the Frigid from Cat O' Nine Tails :)

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: KaZudra on May 08, 2015, 09:58:51 PM
Forneus the Filthy of the Cat O' Nine Tails Clan

Also, Monday morning on the 11th.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 09, 2015, 12:03:37 AM
All I need now is a screenshot of this game, just to get a rough idea of what it is, and then I'll pour my wallet all over this. Depending on what goodies we get I might drop 250-300 *gulp!*. There's absolutely nothing else on the immediate horizon I wanna buy anyway, so why not just put a few months worth of games into this instead. But yeah, I really need to know what da prizes are first.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 09, 2015, 12:08:34 AM
Quote
There's absolutely nothing else on the immediate horizon I wanna buy anyway,

do you eat pizza at all?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Charlie Walden on May 09, 2015, 01:01:21 AM
I'm Foras the Frigid, clan: Cat O' Nine Tails  ;)

I'm still unable to unlock more items and my "Igacula" has never talked about clan wars  :'(

EDIT: ha ha ha ha  ;D I don't believe it! Just few seconds after I wrote my post, Igacula has just begun to talk about clan wars and now I see the red "-1" on unselected items  :) (I'm sorry for eventual grammar mistakes, but I'm Italian and my english grammar is a little rusty  :rolls eyes:)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 09, 2015, 01:15:35 AM
You know, I wonder if there's any chance for the CV Dungeon to be represented in this new game, since we've been the top CV fansite for so long. Maybe there'll be a handsome foreign vampire hunter character named Jorge, with a magic talking cat sidekick named Gunlord. :3

Heeeeey.... I wanna join too as a white bat familiar. hehe.  ;D

@Charlie Walden: Welcome to the Dungeon! Don't worry about your grammar, we are an international site, we understand.
@Kirie: Welcome to the Dungeon as well! And hooray for having another female on board. :)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 09, 2015, 01:21:32 AM
"They tell me it’s been far too long. Time... feels different, in my condition."

I'm Foras the Frigid, clan: Cat O' Nine Tails  ;)

Good to see another Frigid from Cat O' Nine Tails here.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Charlie Walden on May 09, 2015, 01:29:30 AM
@Charlie Walden: Welcome to the Dungeon! Don't worry about your grammar, we are an international site, we understand.

Yeah, I'm sorry if I missed to write a presentation post, but i was so excited about the new site that I immediately joined this topic!  ;D
I'm 29, but this kind of things always catch my attention and light my hype!  :rollseyes:
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 09, 2015, 03:26:23 AM
do you eat pizza at all?

Maybe twice a year, I kid you not. Which is funny since I live literally on top of a pizza restaurant. I am a bad gamer. :(
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 09, 2015, 03:28:25 AM
Iga posted this on facebook : Koji Igarashi traveling to San Francisco from 成田空港ANA Suite Lounge
3 hrs ·
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 09, 2015, 05:37:14 AM
Iga posted this on facebook : Koji Igarashi traveling to San Francisco from 成田空港ANA Suite Lounge
3 hrs ·

From Narita airport to San Francisco... He's gonna be ready for May 11.
Proving this IGAVANIA quote: "We are meeting in the New World. An army of Igavania players and developers."

New quote, I think:
"He is a hero, or a villain. But what is a hero?"
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: VladCT on May 09, 2015, 06:18:16 AM
"...But what is a hero?"
A MISERABLE LITTLE PILE OF- *shot*
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kirie on May 09, 2015, 09:05:51 AM

@Kirie: Welcome to the Dungeon as well! And hooray for having another female on board. :)

Thanks so much! :D

Amon the Appendaged for me. Clan: Katana (go team sword!)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Intersection on May 09, 2015, 09:41:11 AM
I... Really don't know what to think about this.

Apparently I'm Halphas the High. I was inducted into the Iron Flail clan, but then kicked out for treason because I got curious and clicked on the sword. After some more insistent whip-clicking, I made it into the Bullwhip clan.
So far I have a clan contract.

Here are a few snippets:

(click to show/hide)

And I'm allowed to share this:
Join #ClanBullWhip and scourge our foes. #teamwhip #igavania http://swordorwhip.com/?c=BsEAGganK5VvsQaMxk5MeZeXGGvqeTRz7 (http://swordorwhip.com/?c=BsEAGganK5VvsQaMxk5MeZeXGGvqeTRz7)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 09, 2015, 09:43:03 AM
Heeeeey.... I wanna join too as a white bat familiar. hehe.  ;D


If it's a Kickstarter....there's always the chance that could be one of the pledge awards, if you're willing to throw down enough.

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 09, 2015, 10:00:26 AM
Been a long time since I've been looking forward to a Monday and I hate Mondays.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 09, 2015, 10:01:07 AM
I wonder if the battles between these clans is what awakens some kind of evil? I mean, storywise. Not that this is Castlevania but it's almost like we are part of a ritual to resurrect Dracula. And Igacula even says "The ritual is almost complete". Or that by choosing one of his weapons, we're CURSED 4 LIFE and doomed to be his minions! What if all these names we're being given are in fact gonna be the bosses in the game? Maybe? Dunno.

If so, I (Bune the Bodacious) am gonna be this:
"Buné is depicted as a three-headed dragon, being his heads like those of a dog, a griffin, and a man"  ;D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 09, 2015, 10:01:57 AM
Halphas the Hard from Rapier Clan here.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 09, 2015, 10:09:21 AM
Halphas the Hard from Rapier Clan here.

You are a prince of hell, often depicted as a stork, according to wikipedia!  :D I wanna fight a hell stork.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 09, 2015, 10:45:07 AM
anyone put this? "I have watched you warp through obstacles, exploit every advantage. I have watched you cheat. Good." Because I know that's the truth dracula's curse is a good example and the souls series.  :P
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 09, 2015, 01:00:18 PM

"I have watched you make fools of powerful enemies".
-Learning enemy patterns as to never ever get hit by them, getting Medals in OoE.

"I have watched you warp through obstacles"

-DoubleHeart Refresh trick

"Exploit every advantage"

-ShieldRod + Alucard Shield
-Crissaegrim

"I have watched you Cheat"

-Exiting the Castle perimeter to increase the WalkArmor Defense.
-Entering and exiting rooms over and over in order to get a rare item/soul drop.

"Good"

-He is expecting that you will try these again.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 09, 2015, 01:27:22 PM
-ShieldRod + Alucard Shield
-Crissaegrim

Castlevania Sotn 2?  Pzzzz be it..

What do you think guys Sotn 2 could be a chance?  Let me know..
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 09, 2015, 02:02:20 PM
"for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword..." True words, the sword MUST perish.  8)


Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Ahasverus on May 09, 2015, 02:28:59 PM
-ShieldRod + Alucard Shield
-Crissaegrim

Castlevania Sotn 2?  Pzzzz be it..

What do you think guys Sotn 2 could be a chance?  Let me know..
We wish. The lastest Devs Play Video just warmed me up on IGA so much, I... want him back.. (oh, my mouth). Sadly Konami's current affairs are a complete circus so our series is probably as good as dead, so we'll have to resort to him as the savior of the Castlevania spirit.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kirie on May 09, 2015, 02:30:14 PM
The new quotes I've seen today:

??: You are ready to choose the weapon. Will you be ready to wield it when the time comes?

??:"...for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword..."

??: It will not work. Perhaps the same could be said of all tactics.

??: It is not what the words are capable of doing. It is what the words are capable of stopping.

??:Do we learn to control our powers, or do we learn to ignore them controlling us?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 09, 2015, 03:40:08 PM
??:You are ready to choose the weapon. Will you be ready to wield it when the time comes?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 09, 2015, 04:10:56 PM
All I need now is a screenshot of this game, just to get a rough idea of what it is, and then I'll pour my wallet all over this.

Hopefully it won't turn out like MN9, where the prospective screens look great but the actual thing is this bland 2.5D mess. Though DXC looked quite nice, so I have faith in IGA for now.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 09, 2015, 04:20:01 PM
What if it's 2.5D like DXC?

Would you guys rather have sprites or 3d models on a 2d plane?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jop on May 09, 2015, 04:37:34 PM
I was thinking sure it only be 6 items.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4eotZg7.png&hash=744c7b47a1ec4409d2dfef1e7fc36283)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 09, 2015, 04:40:41 PM
What if it's 2.5D like DXC?

Would you guys rather have sprites or 3d models on a 2d plane?

As long as its a HD 2.5D than sure, but if not I would rather have sprites.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 09, 2015, 04:48:27 PM
I was thinking sure it only be 6 items.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4eotZg7.png&hash=744c7b47a1ec4409d2dfef1e7fc36283)
What does the blue note say?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jop on May 09, 2015, 05:03:20 PM
What does the blue note say?

this

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbLtXV6N.png&hash=68bec0e5babb93c1963a7b72860257b4)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 09, 2015, 06:21:15 PM
I was thinking sure it only be 6 items.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4eotZg7.png&hash=744c7b47a1ec4409d2dfef1e7fc36283)

Jop explain what you are doing to get all these!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 09, 2015, 10:39:15 PM
I had an unpleasant thought.... If this game is being published by Nicalis, then Europe may very well be screwed. The thought didn't cross my mind until just now. How do things like that work when it's a kickstarter? Was there ever a kickstarter for a game where europeans couldn't even participate? Or participate and then having to much wait for longer for the game because localization?

Are all kickstarters meant to have simultaneous worldwide releases? Otherwise it doesn't really work, does it? Uuuh my mind hurts now. I obviously won't support something that ultimately isn't coming here, or doesn't come until 2 years later (like cave story on 3ds)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: angevil on May 09, 2015, 11:01:18 PM
I am sure it will be released everywhere. Also, English is enough, everyone understands it. I wish they didn`t lose time and money for localization, in any game. I am not native English speaker, btw.

I cannot wait until tomorrow :) I have such high hopes that I am afraid to be disappointed. Is IGA really back with his dream game? If it turns out the dream team is back (IGA+Ayami Kojima+Michiru Yamane) I will be ecstatic!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 09, 2015, 11:31:42 PM
I had an unpleasant thought.... If this game is being published by Nicalis...

I'm pretty sure Nicalis is in no way involved in this. But it'd be cool if they were :)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 09, 2015, 11:53:15 PM
Quote
Inti Creates ‏@IntiCreatesEN 12h12 hours ago

President @t_aizu and Int'l Affairs Coordinator @MegaMatt77 are off to San Francisco! Why? It's a secret to everyone.

Inti Creates might be the developer?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 09, 2015, 11:56:19 PM
??:"...for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword..."
 = Bible quote
??: It will not work. Perhaps the same could be said of all tactics.
 = Sotn dialogue edit

Inti Creates might be the developer?
Perhaps.

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 10, 2015, 12:07:35 AM
Inti Creates might be the developer?

I can get behind that, as long as they realised the map system for Megaman ZX was no good. If we're talking metroidvania the perfect map was always Super Metroid/SotN. I love me a perfect map system! If it ain't broken...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Little Dracula on May 10, 2015, 01:27:42 AM
Inti Creates is perfect if they are going with a sprite game, but they have never done anything sprite based on HD, I don't know if they have the manpower. But is a great developer.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 10, 2015, 02:29:52 AM
From Steven Campos' twitter:
https://twitter.com/StevenCampos/status/597269896372686849/photo/1

IGA's in the US.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 10, 2015, 03:08:26 AM
I'm pretty sure Nicalis is in no way involved in this. But it'd be cool if they were :)

No, it wouldn't be. Nicalis would be a big red flag to this game.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jop on May 10, 2015, 03:33:06 AM
Jop explain what you are doing to get all these!

Like i say before, I dont know, now i never close the window in case that is the method and click the whip and the others items except the sword because i dont want to click the sword, and perhaps its the 4 or 5 times i make the konami code, i know he say its useless but what the hell XD.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kamirine on May 10, 2015, 10:53:34 AM
From Steven Campos' twitter:
https://twitter.com/StevenCampos/status/597269896372686849/photo/1

IGA's in the US.

Lol, are those fangs in his mouth?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 10, 2015, 11:32:41 AM
He is Draculiga after all!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 10, 2015, 11:54:14 AM
Tomorrow's the day.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?msg=IGAVANIA&p0=198&year=2015&month=5&day=11&hour=14&min=0&sec=0 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?msg=IGAVANIA&p0=198&year=2015&month=5&day=11&hour=14&min=0&sec=0)

EST countdown

Also, two more scrolls appeared, from GAF;

Quote
The Fifth Scroll - You must understand him. It is difficult to empathize with humans when you are no longer human yourself.
The Sixth Scroll - She remembers nothing. But she is human enough to imagine a future.

Definitely sounds like Alucard and Shanoa, which means the rumor of notAlucard and notShanoa being the protags may be true.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 10, 2015, 12:50:30 PM
Tomorrow's the day.

http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?msg=IGAVANIA&p0=198&year=2015&month=5&day=11&hour=14&min=0&sec=0 (http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/to?msg=IGAVANIA&p0=198&year=2015&month=5&day=11&hour=14&min=0&sec=0)

EST countdown

Also, two more scrolls appeared, from GAF;

Definitely sounds like Alucard and Shanoa, which means the rumor of notAlucard and notShanoa being the protags may be true.


Agreed.

Those descriptions fit Alucard and Shanoa precisely, so that rumor holds some water now...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 10, 2015, 12:51:13 PM
Okey guys :D  To be honest I really cant wait to monday moring I am SO excited and my hype level is 100% so now if IGA show SOTN 2 tomorrow I will scream like are girl Sotn is my favoirte CV ever. Please nnot be 3D we need a good 2D CV comeback no lie so on 3DS PC etc.

I will a copy not olny digital.  So over 6 years  ago Castlevania from IGA on Nintendo handeld.

Maybe him have work for this procect for years now....

Good night guys tommorw is BIG CV day. Stay good.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 10, 2015, 01:11:28 PM
From Neogaf: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1039738&page=41 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1039738&page=41)

Soory if posted:

Here you go: "It's real. Game is going to be called Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night. Kickstarter goes live May 11th. Main character is NotShanoa named Miriam. She has rune tattoos on her body. NotAlucard will be named Gebel. "

"I'd post a pic but I'd get fired so fast. She has blue roses on her legs, shoulder length black hair and a stained glass sword."
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 10, 2015, 01:17:32 PM
No, it wouldn't be. Nicalis would be a big red flag to this game.

Explain o.O ?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 10, 2015, 01:57:32 PM
It's interesting how some in here think that this may be a real Castlevania game. I see a LOT of problems with that. Konami giving/"borrowing" IGA the name Castlevania to do a SotN 2 kickstarter makes very little sense, but I dunno... It immediately takes away a lot of the freedom for IGA, and kickstarter is all about freedom.

I also hear some people sometimes talking about that Konami should sell the license, maybe to IGA or to From Software or whoever. That sounds great, but would it work? Selling a brand would technically mean that Konami is not only selling the future of the series, but quite possibly the past.

Never again could the re-release or use the old Castlevanias cause they would effectively be owned by someone else, right? Though I don't really know how these things work, but that's what I'm thinking anyway. And Konami would probably never EVER do that.

The only franchise that comes to mind is Prince of Persia, which I think was sold to UbiSoft. Do UbiSoft own the entire history of PoP, or just the stuff they did with Sands of Time and onward? Hmmm. These things interest me quite a bit. Nobody wants Castlevania to be freed from Konamis clutches more than me, but I don't see how that would be done...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 10, 2015, 02:35:03 PM
Finally, got another scroll in my inventory. Don't ask me how!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Charlie Walden on May 10, 2015, 02:38:48 PM
This is my hypothesis: every time the personal clan wins a clan war, a new item is unlocked. I obtained the first scroll just after the war against Rapier clan ended.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 10, 2015, 03:24:59 PM
Explain o.O ?

Their support to the games they release is terrible.

It took them around a year to fix Cave Story on Wii, which had busted music and a map system that literally couldn't work.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jop on May 10, 2015, 04:05:37 PM
I have the 5th scroll but not the 6th , I have to press that whip hard!!! >:(
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theANdROId on May 10, 2015, 05:20:55 PM
So... The whole thing about the 11th, and how he supposes we can watch.  Well, I have to go to work...and I don't work in a place where watching at work is possible.  I don't suppose someone could somehow record whatever we're watching so I don't miss it?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 10, 2015, 05:21:49 PM
So... The whole thing about the 11th, and how he supposes we can watch.  Well, I have to go to work...and I don't work in a place where watching at work is possible.  I don't suppose someone could somehow record whatever we're watching so I don't miss it?
It's a livestream, they'll probably have a recording of it after it's done being broadcasted.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 10, 2015, 05:36:45 PM
I totally won't have time Monday either. I wish they would tease an image or something. Stained glass sword sounds so awesome. I want to know if it's true.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: JR on May 10, 2015, 05:53:07 PM
Heh...I noticed earlier today that every time I +1'ed the whip, it would -4 the sword. Didn't last very long, though.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 10, 2015, 07:18:44 PM
I got me first scroll! I mean, I dunno how, but I'm kinda happy to have an item.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 10, 2015, 07:21:24 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Feb7qnMk.jpg&hash=030214389289ed45a2c0533be3cde9f4)
Took forever but I finally got some items now!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 10, 2015, 08:01:25 PM
Why does it have to be 2am when the live stream starts in my country....
I might catch the latter third, maybe that's the point where they'll do the announcement for a KS.
I hope they put time stamps on the recorded version so that I can just pick and choose what to watch. I am particularly interested in the IGA interviews.

Gebel.
I found it to be a weird name.... Did a google search and came up with this:
https://www.houseofnames.com/gebel-family-crest (https://www.houseofnames.com/gebel-family-crest)
So it's a surname.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 10, 2015, 08:29:47 PM
https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bloodstained-Ritual-of-the-Night/674733866005672?sk=timeline (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bloodstained-Ritual-of-the-Night/674733866005672?sk=timeline)

Hmm.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 10, 2015, 09:09:57 PM
Oh man, 11 hours...me can't wait!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 10, 2015, 09:40:37 PM
Why does it have to be 2am when the live stream starts in my country....
I might catch the latter third, maybe that's the point where they'll do the announcement for a KS.
I hope they put time stamps on the recorded version so that I can just pick and choose what to watch. I am particularly interested in the IGA interviews.

Gebel.
I found it to be a weird name.... Did a google search and came up with this:
https://www.houseofnames.com/gebel-family-crest (https://www.houseofnames.com/gebel-family-crest)
So it's a surname.

Fun fact: googling Gabel Family Crest shows a crest with a moon on it...

Perhaps for a vampire? ;)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: X on May 10, 2015, 10:16:52 PM
Humm, got a question. After 41 pages of this thread has no-one thought about how this is not a Castlevania game, yet it's being discussed in the General CV section rather then in Gaming 101? Just thought I'd throw this in there  :-\
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DonBorrelli on May 10, 2015, 10:25:48 PM
Humm, got a question. After 41 pages of this thread has no-one thought about how this is not a Castlevania game, yet it's being discussed in the General CV section rather then in Gaming 101? Just thought I'd throw this in there  :-\

Well, I guess it's because the original post by Igavania was posted here
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 10, 2015, 11:24:32 PM
Well, it might not be officially named Castlevania, but it will be Castlevania in our hearts.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 10, 2015, 11:30:02 PM
What worries me with all those similarities is that Konami decides to take action against IGA's game.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 10, 2015, 11:38:19 PM
What worries me with all those similarities is that Konami decides to take action against IGA's game.
There have been dozens of Castlevania clones though, and Konami will probably continue to invest their focus in Lords of Shadow anyway.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 10, 2015, 11:44:09 PM
There have been dozens of Castlevania clones though, and Konami will probably continue to invest their focus in Lords of Shadow anyway.

This is assuming they want to keep making games, and it seems to be a resounding "no" sans Metal Gear.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 10, 2015, 11:48:24 PM
This is assuming they want to keep making games, and it seems to be a resounding "no" sans Metal Gear.
They want to completely drop out of the console market, and IGA said Konami's continuing focus on casual software is what led him to quit the company.


Also, inside man appeared on /v/ again, dropped some new tidbits of info:
Quote
"There may be plans for "social" elements and "freemium" content. Hopefully tomorrow shows otherwise."

"- 2.5D
- Story takes place during Industrial Revolution, church worried that demons will invade if science prevails
- NotShanoa, NotJonathan and NotAlucard are the characters I saw."

"Yamane is in. So is the main programmer from the GBA/DS games. I believe he directed Harmony of Despair."

"Miriam's hair is dark brown. Shoulder length. Don't recognize the artist, but reminded me of OoE. Miriam is the protagonist."

"From what I've seen, it looks like OoE in 2.5D."

"From what I was told, drops are used for crafting skills and items. Seemed like Aria/Dawn with a middleman step."

"Okay, I'm done for the night. Last bit of info is that Fangamer is doing the merch."
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: KaZudra on May 11, 2015, 12:01:32 AM
anyone find it ironically foreshadowing that Gabriel in LoS became Dracula, as so did IGA once donning a Julius-like appearance now dracula-like?
coincidence? I think not... aliens
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sir Nicko on May 11, 2015, 12:32:55 AM
Goodnight my brothers! Can't wait to discuss with you all hopefully tomorrow! Really home this turns out cool.

IGAsan, your army has arrived ;-)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 01:06:51 AM
"There may be plans for "social" elements and "freemium" content."

No pls noooo ;-;
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 02:20:07 AM
Quote
Industrial Revolution...
= hehehe nice timeline. also the timeline of the new AC game

Quote
NotShanoa, NotJonathan and NotAlucard
= hmmm... IGA's going for his dream game ala Drac's Curse. Maybe there's a NotGrant?

Quote
Yamane
= Oh yeah!!!!

Quote
"There may be plans for "social" elements and "freemium" content."
= Oh god.... please no. What's with all those freemium content nowadays? Back in the day, games were shipped out whole and complete.


And... I'm expecting this forum to explode in about 8 hours.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 11, 2015, 03:01:34 AM
I just hopped out the bed super early like the game was revealed and I come to find out it wont be revealed in another 8 hours.

Great, now what am I gonna do for 8 hours? ???
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 03:10:49 AM
I just hopped out the bed super early like the game was revealed and I come to find out it wont be revealed in another 8 hours.

Great, now what am I gonna do for 8 hours? ???

Either you sleep again or play some Castlevania games.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kamirine on May 11, 2015, 03:18:17 AM
Lol, I got up early too, don't feel bad.  I'm drawing, waiting in my daughter to wake up so we can start our morning routine.  :P

As for the new tidbit info and thank you OSM by the way for it:

I will reserve judgement on it being 2.5D until I see it.  I normally don't mind it and DxC looked good, considering it was a PSP game.  I just hope it looks better than MN9 does (unless that took a turn for the better).  Obviously not expecting NSMB levels but still.

Everything else sounded find until we got to Freemium.  Depends on the level.  Like I can stand MKX levels, where the goal/items can be achieved with (arguably a little unfair extra levels of) grinding.  Or it's extra content that isn't necessary.   I just don't like It when it's 'pure freemium' I guess: free 'game' with like one stage and character and the rest of the game has to be nicked and dimed out.  I really hope it isn't the latter.  :-\
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 11, 2015, 03:23:03 AM
If there's something "social" in this game I hope it's either that you can trade/sell ingredients/loot to create stuff and learn skills, but completely OPTIONAL and not forced down our throats. And I guess some kind of additional online mode, similar to HoDespair, could be considered "social". But I don't want the game to revolve around such things!

Or better yet: Copy the entire online aspect from Dark Souls, with invasions and/or the ability to leave little messages here and there. But I desperately want a full offline, single player experience to be the focus.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: The Most Curious Thing on May 11, 2015, 04:58:36 AM
I will reserve judgement on it being 2.5D until I see it.  I normally don't mind it and DxC looked good, considering it was a PSP game.  I just hope it looks better than MN9 does (unless that took a turn for the better).  Obviously not expecting NSMB levels but still.

2.5D is unfortunate but not surprising. I'll hold out judgment too, although I'm only anticipating quality on the level of MN9.

Still, I understand the resources pixel art on a massive scale takes (especially when IGA can't lift sprites from Rondo/SOTN anymore  :P). Shovel Knight is a close analogue, and that was pseudo-NES level pixel work with largely simple, unadorned coloring and shading a la Mega Man. Even Castlevania III style pixel art would be a lot of work for a small team nowadays.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Little Dracula on May 11, 2015, 05:12:55 AM
If Inti Creates is developing the game, you can bet is going to be like Mighty No9, they will use all the experience they have adquiered making that game and apply it to this new game. The key thing is the art style, not if the game is 2.5 or is using unreal. Really excited for tonight.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 11, 2015, 05:41:53 AM
If Inti Creates is developing the game, you can bet is going to be like Mighty No9,

I really, really hope not.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Little Dracula on May 11, 2015, 05:55:27 AM
I really, really hope not.

Why not?, if you think M9 is ugly, that is something that can be fixed with a different art style, textures, colour palettes and etc.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 11, 2015, 06:34:52 AM
I really, really hope not.

Art style is key. Inti Creates has been kinda fucked making Mega Man games since the GBA era, so when they were tasked with making Not Mega Man, that fatigue really shows in the art style. It shows a lack of enthusiasm all around, where that is mostly seen in the interests fans had in the game.

We don't know what Igarashi's game is going to be like because he's never worked with them OR have a decent budget. He's getting both of these things, and being told to start fresh, too.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 11, 2015, 06:41:47 AM
Whenever you want, IGA. :)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 11, 2015, 06:42:51 AM
No Ayami Kojima? :(
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kamirine on May 11, 2015, 06:51:17 AM
I suppose it all depends on how the 2.5D is incorporated at this point.  Seeing what IGA managed to do with DXC with a more than likely low budget, it'll be wonderful to see what he can accomplish with decent funds.

I think the problem is we're trying to compare this to a game that art direction wise, isn't even in the same ball park as a typical Castlevania game would be. 

I think with MN9, those orginial 2D concept shots (or were those actual screenshots?) were just gorgeous and were exactly what kickstarters were expecting when backing the project. So seeing what we got instead was a massive letdown for more than a few people.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 11, 2015, 06:56:11 AM
2.5 MoF style would be great.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Little Dracula on May 11, 2015, 07:05:59 AM
hint, hint

Inti Creates ‏@IntiCreatesEN 26s27 seconds ago

Gearing up for a very awesome day here in San Fran! Stay tuned >:3
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 07:34:54 AM
Is it 11 AM EST or some other time zone? D:
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 11, 2015, 07:51:48 AM
It;s 10:50AM Eastern time here. I thought he said Monday morning? And I see no change in the website yet...hmm
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Little Dracula on May 11, 2015, 07:58:35 AM
11:00AM Pacific.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 08:01:21 AM
Fuuuuuuk, I shoulda gone to sleep. Cant believe i wasted so much time.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 11, 2015, 08:08:56 AM
Argh, 11am pacific time... don't people know that unless it's Eastern Standard Time, it's irrelevant?!
Now I'm gonna have to wait until 3pm.
Since I'm at work, that's gonna make this difficult... blargh...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 11, 2015, 08:09:31 AM
6 P.M here >.< so exciited
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 11, 2015, 08:37:37 AM
PST reporting in! Getting ready to have the stream playing in the background while working. Do we have a link to the twitch stream yet?

Edit: Found it on twitter following the #igavania tag
http://www.twitch.tv/KindaFunnyGames (http://www.twitch.tv/KindaFunnyGames)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 11, 2015, 09:06:49 AM
Are they going to announce something via that Twitch channel?

EDIT: Nvm, found the announcement.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 09:29:29 AM
An hour and a half to go.

Wonder if something will leak before then, maybe even a blurry shot of Miriam or a screenshot.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 09:36:23 AM
Thanks for the link, guys!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 11, 2015, 09:52:42 AM
You can say whatever you want about Mirror of Fate. But the 2.5D in that game was beautiful. I hope it looks as great as that.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kaori on May 11, 2015, 10:04:11 AM
Guys....

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iga/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iga/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 11, 2015, 10:09:11 AM
David Hayter?!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 11, 2015, 10:10:29 AM
Goddammit!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 10:13:06 AM
It's...

It's real...

It's beautiful...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 11, 2015, 10:13:52 AM
Quote
Each inventory item you unlock with your fellow backers will change the Kickstarter, from unlocking the basement stretch goals to getting IGA to cosplay for your amusement.

U-um.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 11, 2015, 10:15:09 AM
Well, there goes $300. <3
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 10:17:16 AM
Sounds like Gebel is our new Dracula.

Quote
It is said that his real purpose in summoning the castle was to give Miriam a place of her own, but as his Magi-crystal disease progressed, he soon forgot his own reasoning. The more he surrounded himself with hell-spawn, the quicker the magi-crystals engulfed his body. He continues to plot the downfall of man, and how to best convince (or use) Miriam to achieve his dark ambition.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 10:19:29 AM
I am trying to limit myself to $100 tops for this, but not only does the higher price points have more cool stuff, I just want to give us much as possible for this game in general.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 11, 2015, 10:23:59 AM
So it sounds like they're bringing back Curse of Darkness's weapon forge system, right? That was handily the best thing about that game. Who is the artist? Miriam's portrait looks like Ayami Kojima's work, but Gebel and Johannes look more like Masaki's work.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: The Most Curious Thing on May 11, 2015, 10:28:16 AM
Quote from: Kickstarter
WHY 2.5D?

IGA decided to go with 2.5D for this project for both financial and artistic reasons. All decisions in game development involve trade-offs, and for Bloodstained a 2.5D world built on Unreal Engine 4 was the right choice to balance development time, graphical fidelity, budget, and scope.

At the same time, IGA is very excited about exploring the paths a 2.5D style opens up within the classic Igavania formula. As he begins a new chapter of his career as a developer, he's looking forward to trying things that will enhance, rather than detract from, that core gameplay.

Still, though, we would never discount the fans' love for that classic style. The development team is looking forward to working with backers every step of the way to decide on custom shaders that will give the game a distinctive, hand-crafted look. Games like Guilty Gear and Strider are proof that 2.5D can be handled in a way that honors a classic aesthetic while allowing for new possibilities; that’s what IGA hopes to achieve with this project.

And of course, since it's an Igavania game, the 2D gameplay and feel are nonnegotiable.

I feel really good about this. 2.5D isn't always my cup of tea but this at least sets my worst fears at bay.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 11, 2015, 10:29:35 AM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2FfPkWsBe1wWPtu%2Fgiphy.gif&hash=abef57e2af4811af2f1ae594775a22de)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 11, 2015, 10:32:36 AM
Quote
Still, though, we would never discount the fans' love for that classic style. The development team is looking forward to working with backers every step of the way to decide on custom shaders that will give the game a distinctive, hand-crafted look. Games like Guilty Gear and Strider are proof that 2.5D can be handled in a way that honors a classic aesthetic while allowing for new possibilities; that’s what IGA hopes to achieve with this project.

Aw shit, son, this is getting good! Also listening to Yamane's demo track. Sounds a lot like her work on Curse. And doth mine ears hear a callback to Toccata into Bloodstained Darkness at the very end?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Little Dracula on May 11, 2015, 10:36:28 AM
Put my money in, the concept art is great, let's hope they game is as close as possible to that. Great to have Yamane and Yamada (big Inti Creates fan here), I don't care about Kojima.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 11, 2015, 10:38:07 AM
Holy crap at all those backer rewards. What's IGA Adventure going to be? Anybody got $10,000 to spare? 
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 11, 2015, 10:39:39 AM
Well fuck the rent, im giving my $150 right now. :)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 10:40:47 AM
They already almost made 100k and it's only been like what, 20-30 minutes?

EDIT: Scratch that $115,497 just now lmao
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 11, 2015, 10:42:00 AM
Johannes is the villain.

Calling it.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 11, 2015, 10:45:56 AM
He got me at Gothic Horror. I'm so In!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Necklace of J on May 11, 2015, 10:52:27 AM
IGA on His Castlevania Spiritual Successor, Konami, More - Kinda Funny Gamescast Special:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TzfM6QUs6A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TzfM6QUs6A)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 11, 2015, 10:53:58 AM
They already almost made 100k and it's only been like what, 20-30 minutes?

EDIT: Scratch that $115,497 just now lmao

Bout time people started putting their money where they're mouths are.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DonBorrelli on May 11, 2015, 11:01:59 AM
The fact that there's no Wii U (or 3DS) versions is quite a letdown. Oh well, I guess it's PC for me..  :-\
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: e105beta on May 11, 2015, 11:03:42 AM
This looks pretty fucking sweet, and that intro video was great. Glad to see IGA is still super passionate about these games. I felt like that passion was missing in his last couple entries before he went MIA, but that could be attributed to issues with publishers. Regardless of whatever it was, passion is what the genre needs right now.

NOW WHERE ARE MAH WHIPS? I SAW A LOT OF SWORDS, BUT NO WHIPS. JOHANNES? I WANT TO PLAY JOHANNES.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 11, 2015, 11:06:34 AM
NOW WHERE ARE MAH WHIPS? I SAW A LOT OF SWORDS, BUT NO WHIPS. JOHANNES? I WANT TO PLAY JOHANNES.

The main character carries both.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 11, 2015, 11:06:47 AM
300 for sure. Would give more if Kojima.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 11:07:52 AM
NOW WHERE ARE MAH WHIPS? I SAW A LOT OF SWORDS, BUT NO WHIPS.
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBYUoB21.png&hash=031e3511a42ecaab8d141a8dc4bad2de)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: affinity on May 11, 2015, 11:08:09 AM
ENCORE ENCORE!! how can you have a page in this topic without this reminder

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iga/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iga/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night)
and

and all these

http://www.usgamer.net/articles/interview-castlevanias-former-keeper-returns-with-bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night (http://www.usgamer.net/articles/interview-castlevanias-former-keeper-returns-with-bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night)

(https://images.eurogamer.net/2015/usgamer/BloodstainedSpot1.jpg/EG11/resize/958x-1/format/jpg)

https://images.eurogamer.net/2015/usgamer/BloodstainedSpot2.jpg/EG11/resize/958x-1/format/jpg (https://images.eurogamer.net/2015/usgamer/BloodstainedSpot2.jpg/EG11/resize/958x-1/format/jpg)

https://images.eurogamer.net/2015/usgamer/BloodstainedSpot3.jpg (https://images.eurogamer.net/2015/usgamer/BloodstainedSpot3.jpg)

(https://images.eurogamer.net/2015/usgamer/BloodstainedSpot3.jpg)

that is already looking to be a worthy successor to IGAvania creations!!  the first signs of a profound masterpiece!!!!

Of course Bloodstained Ritual of the Night will generate the most sales from

1. PS4
2. PC
3. X1

in that sequence.   Of course PS4 has the most international and widespread tastes for gaming.
PC is drenched in piracy but still a lot more profitable and broader consumer tastes than X1,
though X1 would definitely get more sales than a Wii U or portable version would. 
Plus X1 has a decent standard controller for this genre, and better hardware.

It is smart they are developing this for only those platforms, that will keep the quality high instead of
cutting corners for previous gen hardware.    It may be a 2.5D game, but it benefits from every part
of what the best gaming hardware has these days, so that will help optimize its performance among other
things.

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 11, 2015, 11:09:32 AM
http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/5/11/8576141/koji-igarashi-day-in-the-life (http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/5/11/8576141/koji-igarashi-day-in-the-life)

Here's a cool tie-in article by Polygon. Some interesting Castlevania tidbits - the 3D Alucard game was not coming along well, and yeah, his 2D Castlevania projects were canned when they brought on MercurySteam. RIP 1999, at least we'll always have operation akumajo's terrible script in our hearts...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 11, 2015, 11:09:45 AM
Of course Kickstarter doesn't have PayPal support. *reluctantly applies for creditcard*

I'm planning on backing for $300 because I like autographs. I don't particularly care for the map and the rest is out of my price range/embarrassing.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Rodriguezjr on May 11, 2015, 11:11:11 AM
Of course Kickstarter doesn't have PayPal support. *reluctantly applies for creditcard*

I'm planning on backing for $300 because I like autographs. I don't particularly care for the map and the rest is out of my price range/embarrassing.
Actually, this is the Paypal link for the Kickstarter. https://fulfillment.fangamer.com/bloodstained (https://fulfillment.fangamer.com/bloodstained)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kamirine on May 11, 2015, 11:11:25 AM
Just pledged $300 bucks. I have faith in you IGA.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 11:13:58 AM
http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/5/11/8576141/koji-igarashi-day-in-the-life (http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/5/11/8576141/koji-igarashi-day-in-the-life)

Here's a cool tie-in article by Polygon. Some interesting Castlevania tidbits - the 3D Alucard game was not coming along well, and yeah, his 2D Castlevania projects were canned when they brought on MercurySteam. RIP 1999, at least we'll always have operation akumajo's terrible script in our hearts...
Man, I am done with Konami.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 11, 2015, 11:14:42 AM
I just pledged 150.00 My first EVER KS!

I'll be getting the Xbox One Version.

This is being made in Unreal 4?! It's gonna be sooo huge!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 11, 2015, 11:16:06 AM
Actually, this is the Paypal link for the Kickstarter. https://fulfillment.fangamer.com/bloodstained (https://fulfillment.fangamer.com/bloodstained)

Thanks for the link. Backed.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: e105beta on May 11, 2015, 11:18:50 AM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBYUoB21.png&hash=031e3511a42ecaab8d141a8dc4bad2de)

Oh good. I missed that. Reminds me of the Thorn Whip from Simon's Quest.

Man, I am done with Konami.

Why did they have to do this? Why does Konami hate everything good? There was no reason they couldn't have simultaneously funded both.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kirie on May 11, 2015, 11:19:02 AM
IGA is going to be on the stream here pretty much all day today: http://www.twitch.tv/kindafunnygames (http://www.twitch.tv/kindafunnygames)

IGAMANIA SCHEDULE
11:00: Announcement, with IGA, Egoraptor, and Colin Moriarty
11:30: IGA plays Rogue Legacy
12:30: Turbodog702 speedruns Guacamelee with IGA, romscout, Rocco Botte, and Colin Moriarty
1:45: IGA plays Shadow Complex with Donald Mustard, and Derrick Acosta
2:45: PinkPajamas speed runs Bunny Must Die with IGA and Colin Moriarty
3:45: New music from Michiru Yamane and Ippo Yamada
4:00: IGA plays Shovel Knight with Yacht Club Games and Rocco Botte
5:00: Andy plays Ori and the Blind Forest with Colin Moriarty, romscout, and Fangamer
6:00: IGA plays Axiom Verge with Tom Happ and Colin Moriarty
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Maedhros on May 11, 2015, 11:21:35 AM
The 2.5D makes me a bit worried... specially because it's Inti Creates (MN9 isn't looking that good). But it all depends on what shaders they'll use on this game.

Also, they are limiting the platforms for realistic goals, unlike MN9.

If we can get something on the level of Dust: An Elysian Tail or something like this, I'll be happy.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 11:25:26 AM
The 2.5D makes me a bit worried... specially because it's Inti Creates (MN9 isn't looking that good). But it all depends on what shaders they'll use on this game.
2.5D can be good.
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FY4tCSU1.jpg&hash=3ccf9ecab0886d6f1cbd094e2eb0d85d)

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjcA3bNZ.jpg&hash=6869ba15924fa1af6da4da8a6e74e4f7)

Don't get me started on MN9 though, for everything it was promised and how much it made it looks like a big disappointment. I was raising like 100 eyebrows when they announced the cartoon franchises before the game was even finished, left a bad taste in my mouth. That and having to cut out being able to steal parts/transformations from enemies and not bosses due to budgeting? Yeah, nah.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 11, 2015, 11:28:05 AM
Wait... her name is Miriam?
That was my very first girlfriend's name... (not even remotely joking).
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 11, 2015, 11:30:55 AM
Two words - I'm in.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 11, 2015, 11:31:00 AM
F**k.......i need to get paid from my work............i'll give him 150!!!!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 11:32:36 AM
So when do you pick your platform? Is it right after you pledge, or what? I'm using the PayPal version so if anyone used that, it'd be helpful to know. I don't wanna wind up accidentally getting a PC copy since I know my computer wouldn't be able to run the game (since it's being developed with current-gen consoles in mind).
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 11, 2015, 11:33:12 AM
http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/5/11/8576141/koji-igarashi-day-in-the-life (http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/5/11/8576141/koji-igarashi-day-in-the-life)

Here's a cool tie-in article by Polygon. Some interesting Castlevania tidbits - the 3D Alucard game was not coming along well, and yeah, his 2D Castlevania projects were canned when they brought on MercurySteam. RIP 1999, at least we'll always have operation akumajo's terrible script in our hearts...

Man fuck Konami up the ass with a bloody flaming pike.(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thecoli.com%2Fstyles%2Fdefault%2Fxenforo%2Fsmilies%2Fpacspit.gif&hash=daf8f01c11b06f33927a05888ff87316)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Zuljaras on May 11, 2015, 11:44:46 AM
I really hope the game will be much better than the first image posted. I see many people are excited with the art for Miriam but for me Shanoa is waaaay better!

I hope the game development goes well and I don't want the game to look so generic and cheap :(
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: affinity on May 11, 2015, 11:58:07 AM
Man fuck Konami up the ass with a bloody flaming pike.(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thecoli.com%2Fstyles%2Fdefault%2Fxenforo%2Fsmilies%2Fpacspit.gif&hash=daf8f01c11b06f33927a05888ff87316)

it was partially Kojima's fault since he supported mercurysteam, which is also to blame trying to cashgrab the Castlevania franchise and just looking to make money (just like how Ninja Theory didn't care about ruining DMC
reputation, they were just after money and fame. not taking care of the franchise's foundations, lore and design.
trolling the fanbase since they will get paid under contract anyways.),
but Kojima pushed Konami to choose MS (a very horrible choice) instead of IGA. 

Kojima overrates western developers and underrated Japanese talent.  Hideo doesn't even care about the Metal Gear series much since MGS3, so Castlevania means nothing to him, he just sees the industry more as a science instead of an art, and MGS is the only thing he understands. ) 

but anyways, this actually worked out better for IGA, since Konami is out of touch with the industry anyways,
and IGA can do more outside of that.  full 3D Castlevania just doesn't have the full team, budget and resources to do it right, so 2D and 2.5D are much more adaptable to IGA's style, and the greatest in the series are 2D.

You see even legendary series like Street Fighter use 2.5D instead of full 3D.  can full 3D be better for the series?
it can be, but it could be at the expense of the series gameplay fundamentals and level design strengths.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 11, 2015, 11:58:34 AM
I've lost Stream footage until now. I've lost important info about this game and IGA or no?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Maedhros on May 11, 2015, 12:03:00 PM
So when do you pick your platform? Is it right after you pledge, or what? I'm using the PayPal version so if anyone used that, it'd be helpful to know. I don't wanna wind up accidentally getting a PC copy since I know my computer wouldn't be able to run the game (since it's being developed with current-gen consoles in mind).
You'll receive emails. Kickstarter have some plugins for the post-fund phase that handle this type of thing. You (probably in this case) can up your pledge, even.

I know that 2.5D games can look good. We just need to know which 2.5D game visual they are striving to achieve.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Oniros on May 11, 2015, 12:05:26 PM
In for the $125 tier. So happy that we're finally getting a new IGA game!!!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: affinity on May 11, 2015, 12:06:15 PM
I really hope the game will be much better than the first image posted. I see many people are excited with the art for Miriam but for me Shanoa is waaaay better! 

Miriam looks awesome, she could kind of pass for Shanoa's long lost sister.   ;D

plus Miriam can main a sword AND whip, so she's already one of the most badass and coolest IGAvania characters ever.

Quote
I hope the game development goes well and I don't want the game to look so generic and cheap :(

I think people shouldn't have their production value expectations too high.

fans should be glad this will look better than than CotM, HoD, AoS, DoS, PoR and OoE.

it would be nice if they make it darker and grittier like SOTN and the others, with more mature color tone,
but overall I think that screen doesn't really show the full atmosphere, since those floors and ceiling are naturally
bright due to the reflective material they are composed of, but looking at the rest of the background, it does look
pretty dark themed.   

 At least it isn't super deformed like Phantom Breaker Battlegrounds or Syd Valis.   ;D


but are the developers really the same developers that helped with MN9?  do people think the MN9 budget conspiracy
might be tied to that developer?  Is it a smart move to choose that developer?  They aren't a shady developer are they?  They might bill IGA more money than they deserve. 

 If they are bad they better not treat IGA like a scapegoat if some conspiracy happens.
Whose fault really was it for what happened to MN9 anyways?  was it related to that devleoper? 
Inti Creates or whatever they are called.




Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kamirine on May 11, 2015, 12:08:24 PM
Don't get me started on MN9 though, for everything it was promised and how much it made it looks like a big disappointment. I was raising like 100 eyebrows when they announced the cartoon franchises before the game was even finished, left a bad taste in my mouth. That and having to cut out being able to steal parts/transformations from enemies and not bosses due to budgeting? Yeah, nah.

Yeeeaaaah.  Seeing what one man could do (Axiom Verge), and various other teams on a smaller budget could crank out, seeing MN9 was jarring.  I'm trusting this because IGA is the producer and has his goals and funding set at a realistic level.  2.5D does have me weary, but what he's said (and as much as I love Nintendo, excluding it for now so that the game will be good looking instead having to possibly scale it down so that it runs on everything) put me at ease.  To be honest, I'm sad some people won't pledge yet based solely on IntiCreates being involved and MN9 instead of IGA being the lead and pretty damn good with making games on a budget, reused sprites be damned.

I couldn't imagine a metroidvania looking like MN9 honestly: the castle would look bare and bland.  Even DXC looked better than that.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 11, 2015, 12:09:16 PM
I've lost Stream footage until now. I've lost important info about this game and IGA or no?

Anyone?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 12:12:26 PM
I'm sad some people won't pledge yet based solely on IntiCreates being involved and MN9 instead of IGA being the lead and pretty damn good with making games on a budget, reused sprites be damned.
I haven't pledged because I want to see gameplay first. The game is absolutely going to get funded, I respect IGA and trust him but I need to see the game first before I get truly excited.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 11, 2015, 12:23:32 PM
i look around & see all of u super duper excited like ur wildest dreams are coming true. just wait till after the dust settles & half of u will start criticizing & pooping on this game & its "repetitive gameplay, lack of platforming and uninspired environments," yes im calling it now. "hasnt IgA learned anything smh"

i see ppl that used to shit on iga & his games left n right, now coming outta the shadows & posting the complete opposite. go figure  :P

as for me, yas im gonna pledge but thats becuz ive always been a fan of the metroidvanias. rip castlevania, it had one helluva run with 25+ years. but all good things must come to an end
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 11, 2015, 12:30:22 PM
Where are people getting all this info on Mighty No. 9 not going to be good?!

Did I miss something?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Oniros on May 11, 2015, 12:34:10 PM
Where are people getting all this info on Mighty No. 9 not going to be good?!

Did I miss something?
People are judging a platformer being bad purely on its visuals in 2015. What a time to be alive.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 12:35:54 PM
Where are people getting all this info on Mighty No. 9 not going to be good?!

Did I miss something?
Gameplay footage that has been released shows off some very uninspired and often flat level design. It just doesn't look fun, I would love to be wrong but I doubt much will change.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 11, 2015, 12:36:30 PM
Holy Sh*T, IGA is going to reach his goal on the first day.
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Post by: beingthehero on May 11, 2015, 12:37:47 PM
Over $400,000 already....

I guess the publishers were very very wrong about there being no demand for an Igavania.
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Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 12:40:57 PM
Over $400,000 already....

I guess the publishers were very very wrong about there being no demand for an Igavania.
Publishers are often very wrong, the industry is a mess and it shouldn't be like this at all.
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Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 12:46:50 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought main development of Mighty No. 9 was being handled by Comcept, not Inti Creates.
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Post by: Foffy on May 11, 2015, 12:47:19 PM
Publishers are often very wrong, the industry is a mess and it shouldn't be like this at all.

Most guys at the top of anything relating to money really are wrong about the world they're in.
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Post by: LoneChild on May 11, 2015, 12:57:04 PM
Can't say I'm impressed by the artwork, the designs look kind of childish to me. Not digging Gebel at all, nor Miriam's clothing / exaggerated weapons.

2'5D Is not really justified, as I see it. I bet IGA's getting this project backed in less than 24 hours, and probably we'll see the numbers leaving the 850.000$ goal far behind in less than a week. I think IGA should have been more confident about the founding, and take the pixel route from the start. Anyway, I can live with 2'5D graphics as long as they reach MoF standards of quality.

At this point I'm backing this for sure, but I hope this designs grow on me somehow, or get some more mature approach at some point. OoE was the perfect blend of manga and a more realistic, westen style, both in character proportions and clothes design without all this "Sakura Cardcaptor" stuff all over it.
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Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 12:59:49 PM
$440,640

Within the next half hour the game will be fully funded. :)
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Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 01:05:11 PM
Pledged only $60... Unfortunately I can't afford anything higher... But at least I'm helping see this game come to fruition, though it definitely didn't need my help in particular. lol
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Post by: Chernabogue on May 11, 2015, 01:20:13 PM
Color me interested. I'm still not totally sold, and will pledge when we get more info about the game. (Plus I think the pledge levels are higher than most other game KSs).
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Post by: Inccubus on May 11, 2015, 01:21:29 PM
As soon as I have it I'm going in for the 60$ too.
I would go higher, but I be broke and my rent is about to go up to 850$ from the 575$ I was paying before.
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 11, 2015, 01:30:55 PM
They owe me over 2000 euros at my work, if i get a good amount, i'll go for the 150$!!
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Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 11, 2015, 01:31:56 PM
http://kotaku.com/konami-gets-youtube-to-take-down-critical-video-1703615047 (http://kotaku.com/konami-gets-youtube-to-take-down-critical-video-1703615047)

Watch the backup while it's back up!
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Post by: Kamirine on May 11, 2015, 01:34:55 PM
Looks like it might reach the goal in the next 30-40 minutes or less.  Fun stuff. 
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Post by: Chernabogue on May 11, 2015, 01:38:11 PM
Founded a few minutes ago.
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Post by: Kaori on May 11, 2015, 01:38:51 PM
It reached it's goal guys!!! Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night is happening!!!! I am super excited!!  ;D ;D
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 11, 2015, 01:43:19 PM
キタ━━━━━━(゚∀゚)━━━━━━ !!!!!
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Post by: Somanyte on May 11, 2015, 01:46:04 PM
wow, that was fast. I wonder if they'll add more goals. $850k seems a bit short...
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Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 01:47:46 PM
I am super happy about this and quite excited.

And it makes me too excited, actually. Like, what if this gets its own franchise? A "Bloodstained" franchise? Are we going to remain the Castlevania Dungeon if CV dies out? Are we going to reform into the Bloodstained Dungeon?! WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?!
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Post by: Kingshango on May 11, 2015, 01:49:40 PM
I am super happy about this and quite excited.

And it makes me too excited, actually. Like, what if this gets its own franchise? A "Bloodstained" franchise? Are we going to remain the Castlevania Dungeon if CV dies out? Are we going to reform into the Bloodstained Dungeon?! WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?!

Bloodstained Dungeon, has a nice ring to it.
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Post by: deadsanto123 on May 11, 2015, 01:51:47 PM
Funded!
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Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 01:52:29 PM
Congrats IGA! I bet if they keep going we'll hit all the goals up to Nightmare mode tonight.
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Post by: Intersection on May 11, 2015, 01:53:27 PM
It's happening... It's actually happening...

I guess it's time to open a KS account.
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Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 11, 2015, 01:55:48 PM
I am super happy about this and quite excited.

And it makes me too excited, actually. Like, what if this gets its own franchise? A "Bloodstained" franchise? Are we going to remain the Castlevania Dungeon if CV dies out? Are we going to reform into the Bloodstained Dungeon?! WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?!
I wouldn't say it needs to change, but if we get a new IGAVANIA franchise out of this, it might be nice to have a sub-forum dedicated to it.
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Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 01:58:13 PM
I wanna try to make a Miriam sprite so we can fit her into the forum banner.
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Post by: affinity on May 11, 2015, 02:01:04 PM
Can't say I'm impressed by the artwork, the designs look kind of childish to me.   

Watch Syd Valis gameplay. or Phantom Breaker Battlegrounds.  now that's childish.   ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l6om71Lhqw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7l6om71Lhqw)


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2'5D Is not really justified, as I see it. I think IGA should have been more confident about the founding, and take the pixel route from the start. 

for an action/adventure/platformer, if it was 2D, it would cost a lot more and a lot of the concepts probably wouldn't get off the ground.   Considering the major companies are now in 2.5D instead of 2D for their AAA budget projects,
shows that 2D is too risky to do right these days, especially if you wanna make a SOTN deep game.

SNKP themselves have seen how wasteful and costly 2D can be these days.  look how lackluster KOFXII was
compared to its predecessors, despite its high quality 2D pixel art, it's quality was lacking necessary quantity to
feel like a complete KOF game.
  KOFXIII project suffered from some cuts as well, some of their characters only appearing in cutscenes or trophy sprites. 

if it was pure 2D, people would complain it looks too flat or too clean or too pixelated. 

and the amount of work on 2d animations costs more than 2.5D animations, which means 2D game could
wind up having less animations than 2.5D games (look at Street Fighter 4 compared to SF2 and SF3, there is
a lot more detail and depth to SF4's animations and facial animations and effects. SF3 looks smooth, but it still looks grainy and cheap compared to SF4.


plus adding things like costumes to a 2D game? 

that's more doable in 2.5D where you can reskin a model.
Whereas for 2D you would have to redraw EVERY SINGLE FRAME. )

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At this point I'm backing this for sure, but I hope this designs grow on me somehow, or get some more mature approach at some point. OoE was the perfect blend of manga and a more realistic, westen style, both in character proportions and clothes design without all this "Sakura Cardcaptor" stuff all over it.

I dunno Sakura Cardcaptor is a stretch of a comparison.   this art style definitely looks more mature and dark than say,
Borderlands which looks totally goofy and cartoony despite being full 3D.  or Donkey Kong country. 

I would say Bloodstained doesn't look any less realistic/manga than PoR or OoE.   we only seen one background, and
aside from the bright floor and ceiling, everything else does look moody, maybe there more darker areas, but that
background has a "luxury" style to it in the gothic horror hierarchy.   So this could have more variety of atmospheric
tones based on the location. 

It definitely looks more dark and mature than Touhou.

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Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 11, 2015, 02:07:46 PM
I am super happy about this and quite excited.

And it makes me too excited, actually. Like, what if this gets its own franchise? A "Bloodstained" franchise? Are we going to remain the Castlevania Dungeon if CV dies out? Are we going to reform into the Bloodstained Dungeon?! WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN?!

That is exactly what IGA said. He wants this a franchise to take over the IGAVania type of game.

You know what else, the main character has a whipsword. Ha!

And if you read the Polygon interview, IGA had that idea first which later became the Combat Cross for LOS and Lords of Shadow was the original name for the 3D SOTN 2 project that was originally for the PS3!

IGA wants to make a Zelda game?!
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Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 11, 2015, 02:16:42 PM
Why does no one but Vanillaware know how to do high quality 2D on a budget?

Anyway, hopefully this works and creates something at least on the 'fun' level of the GBA and DS CVs or else it's truly over. This is the last hope.
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Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 02:17:09 PM
And if you read the Polygon interview, IGA had that idea first which later became the Combat Cross for LOS and Lords of Shadow was the original name for the 3D SOTN 2 project that was originally for the PS3!
That's...

Uh.

What. Wow.
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Post by: theplottwist on May 11, 2015, 02:17:16 PM
I wanna try to make a Miriam sprite so we can fit her into the forum banner.

GOSH DANGIT STOP STEALING MY IDEAS.
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Post by: Sindra on May 11, 2015, 02:20:53 PM
I've pledged. More than I probably ought to without gameplay footage....but I like what I'm seeing thus far, and listening to Igarashi talk about the game, and I'm liking what I'm hearing.

I thought about what crisis had mentioned.....how the IGA-haters are suddenly all excited, and if that will backslide back into contempt for him if things don't pan out like we initially thought or the game takes too long or what have you.

Say what you will about Igarashi, but he's got passion for Castlevania and thus for this game that is officially his baby. Yeah, he's pulled some bonehead moves with certain things and there's a lot of "sameness" to some of his CV titles....but I know that the thought of losing those things entirely has given me a bit of perspective and I suppose a better appreciation of his work, and allows me to forgive those boneheaded decisions more. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt that he'll do his damndest to make this game everything he's saying he wants it to be.
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Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 02:21:04 PM
I couldn't take it--I stayed up for more than 24 hours because I thought the game would be unveiled at 11 AM my time, when it was actually 2 PM my time due to time zone differences. So I took a nap around 2 PM and just woke up now, at 5 PM.

The game's been fully funded and this thread has gone from 44 pages to 49 and counting.

Well played IGA, well played.
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Post by: affinity on May 11, 2015, 02:22:57 PM
Well here solidifies the historical record for IGAvania support

"Symphony of the Night Producer's New 2.5D Platformer Funded in Under Four Hours"

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Symphony of the Night Producer's New 2.5D Platformer Funded in Under Four Hours


The campaign went live at 10 AM PDT / 1 PM EDT and reached its $500,000 target at 1:34 PM PDT / 4:34 PM EDT.

Funding will continue until June 12, leaving plenty of time for additional money to come through to help unlock Ritual of the Night's various stretch goals.


They include the following:

$600,000 -- Artbook upgraded to hardcover
$700,000 -- The introduction of a second playable character
$800,000 -- A "Nightmare" difficulty mode
$850,000 -- Voice acting from Metal Gear Solid veteran David Hayter

You can secure a digital copy of Ritual of the Night for a minimum pledge of $28. Now that the $500,000 target has been met, backers will have the option of selecting a physical disc across all platforms.

In Ritual of the Night, you play young orphan girl named Miriam who has been scarred by an alchemist curse. The game is set in a "demon-filled castle," not unlike Igarashi's most iconic work, 1997's Castlevania: Symphony of the Night.

Ritual of the Night is scheduled to launch in March 2017 across PC, Mac, Linux, Xbox One, and PlayStation 4. Explaining why the game is not coming to Nintendo platforms, developer Inti Creates

said: "We can't afford to create the two separate versions of this game that would be necessary to make it run on every console." (Unreal Engine 4 supports PC, PS4 and X1 right out of box.)

At the same time, the developer teased: "We've heard legends about a remarkable treasure hidden in the castle basement..."
   

http://www.gamespot.com/articles/symphony-of-the-night-producer-s-new-2-5d-platform/1100-6427254/?utm_source=gamefaqs&utm_medium=partner&utm_content=news_module&utm_campaign=hub_platform (http://www.gamespot.com/articles/symphony-of-the-night-producer-s-new-2-5d-platform/1100-6427254/?utm_source=gamefaqs&utm_medium=partner&utm_content=news_module&utm_campaign=hub_platform)



That is exactly what IGA said. He wants this a franchise to take over the IGAVania type of game.

You know what else, the main character has a whipsword. Ha!

Miriam will be known as the mother of Bloodstained series stories and the original Bloodstained hunter/slayer/heroine.  ^-^

(https://images.eurogamer.net/2015/usgamer/BloodstainedSpot3.jpg)


It's cool the whipsword actually transforms into a pure whip, so can specialize with whip,
instead of just being part sword, part whip.  swords that mechanically unfold as a whip are so cheesy,
and neither feels like a pure sword nor a pure whip.   but Bloodstained whipsword sounds to have the best
of both worlds without going the tacky hybrid route. Is it really confirmed that the weapon transmogrifies
from sword to whip and vice versa?

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBYUoB21.png&hash=031e3511a42ecaab8d141a8dc4bad2de)

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Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 11, 2015, 02:24:05 PM
Congratz IGA on getting this funded on the first freaken day!!!

Longtime IGA fan here, glad he finally has stepped out of the shadow in a big way, I also agree with crisis about how before there where a lot of people constantly bashing IGA in favor of MS and the Lords of Shadow saga and saying how low quality his games are and now its all smiles and hype when he steps out to give us a castlevania experience. :-\

I plan on donating 60 dollars this Friday when I get paid, may donate more since I really want it to it to reach the 700,000 mark since I want a second playable character, nothing against Miriam she looks great and all, but i really want a male lead/playable character as well, preferably one similar to Alucard.
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Post by: Kingshango on May 11, 2015, 02:24:56 PM
And if you read the Polygon interview, IGA had that idea first which later became the Combat Cross for LOS and Lords of Shadow was the original name for the 3D SOTN 2 project that was originally for the PS3!



WHAT!? /Lil Jon voice
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 11, 2015, 02:28:05 PM
And if you read the Polygon interview, IGA had that idea first which later became the Combat Cross for LOS and Lords of Shadow was the original name for the 3D SOTN 2 project that was originally for the PS3!

Source please.
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Post by: Lelygax on May 11, 2015, 02:33:26 PM
We can become Castlevania: Bloodstained Dungeon now :P    j/k
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 02:34:47 PM
Should we move this thread to the other forum for games that aren't Castlevania?
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Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 02:38:23 PM
GOSH DANGIT STOP STEALING MY IDEAS.

New Dungeon sprite contest maybe? :P

EDIT: $600,000 reached. All those artbooks (that I'm not getting) are gonna be hardcover now.
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Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 02:59:18 PM
Man she's got a ton of detail on her, hard to fit all that info on such a small sprite. Not quite done yet.
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUJGuz0o.png&hash=023eb645549b457e9148f2447b0e719f)
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Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 03:02:24 PM
This is looking seriously good so far.  I really want to donate to this ($100 preferrably), but sadly can't atm.  Grrr.  Based on what I've heard, I already adore the music.  Anyone found a way yet to lift The Bloodstained Theme, and Cursed Orphan yet from the KS page?

Oohhhh....... artbooks........ seriously hope that the artbooks/CD become available more widely....
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Post by: Mike Belmont on May 11, 2015, 03:07:14 PM
"What a wonderful day to back to the forums :P "

I am really exited about the whole project. The video with IGA telling us some of the troubles that he pass, were really touching for me.

I have to say that I am waiting more news for this game, than the time in which Lords of Shadow was announced.

Should we move this thread to the other forum for games that aren't Castlevania?

This is a really interesting question. I would like to know the answer...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: affinity on May 11, 2015, 03:08:46 PM
Should we move this thread to the other forum for games that aren't Castlevania?

Bloodstained is Castlevania ascending into a new worthy form   ^.^   

the Demon's Souls fans keep Demon's Souls, Dark Souls and Bloodborne together in their communities, even though they are 3 separate franchises, they are still in essence the same in a sense.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 03:14:06 PM
Bloodstained is Castlevania ascending into a new worthy form   ^.^   

the Demon's Souls fans keep Demon's Souls, Dark Souls and Bloodborne together in their communities, even though they are 3 separate franchises, they are still in essence the same in a sense.

They really aren't 3 separate franchises at all. They aren't the same "in essence", they are fundamentally the same. Demon's, Dark, and Dark II all are very similar games, Demon's just using a level select rather than the open-ish world. Bloodborne doesn't use souls but rather Blood Echoes, but they function exactly the same.
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 11, 2015, 03:16:24 PM
I imagine we'd create a sub-forum for Bloodstained specifically, or allow it in general since Iga is the champion behind it. Does the MM community allow MN9 discussion? King's Field with the Souls series? I don't know, but with how in-line BS:RotN (Rotten Bullshit?) is with a lot of CV titles I think we'd be crazy not to allow it.
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Post by: Danial on May 11, 2015, 03:21:40 PM
I've seen a few of you mention that you don't have the money at the moment.  Kickstarter won't collect until the project ends.  This will give you about a month to raise funds.  Hopefully that helps a bit.

Should we move this thread to the other forum for games that aren't Castlevania?

So far, I think this game deserves to be included in the forum's CV section.  That may change in the future as more info and gameplay is released.  But as is, it seems to at least be a stepchild of the series.  (Which is basically what Lords of Shadow is also.)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 03:25:00 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxLPopJc.png&hash=814dab10b096e3c3dce74ad223fb050b)

Done. If Jorge wants or someone else they can try editting her into the banner if she'll fit, otherwise I made one of the first sprites ever of Miriam. :)
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 03:27:07 PM
Wow I just woke up (I live on the other side of the Pacific ocean)
Info Overload!
Bloodstained looks pretty. IGA's intro video for it is also awesome.
Yes! We've been waiting for this for a long time.

So far, I think this game deserves to be included in the forum's CV section.  That may change in the future as more info and gameplay is released.  But as is, it seems to at least be a stepchild of the series.  (Which is basically what Lords of Shadow is also.)
I agree but maybe if Bloodstained becomes its own series, then it an have its own section here in the forum.
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Post by: theplottwist on May 11, 2015, 03:30:20 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150512C%2Fezimba14497878015704.png&hash=d836c9d55ec22ef50fc3a0fd7d3229f2)

Here is the sprite alone.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150512C%2Fezimba14497858598404.png&hash=dae1d29ec1108e72317fc73d5627341c)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 03:31:39 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150512C%2Fezimba14497878015704.png&hash=d836c9d55ec22ef50fc3a0fd7d3229f2)

I LOVE THIS
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Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 03:33:16 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150512C%2Fezimba14497878015704.png&hash=d836c9d55ec22ef50fc3a0fd7d3229f2)
Oh damn yours is way better than mine, nice!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 11, 2015, 03:33:53 PM
is it official konami is leaving the console gaming market or is it still just "unofficially confirmed" from various sources
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: affinity on May 11, 2015, 03:39:09 PM
I imagine we'd create a sub-forum for Bloodstained specifically, or allow it in general since Iga is the champion behind it. Does the MM community allow MN9 discussion? King's Field with the Souls series? I don't know, but with how in-line BS:RotN (Rotten Bullshit?) is with a lot of CV titles I think we'd be crazy not to allow it.

I think it should be the General Castlevania Discussion, since this is now Castlevania transcending into Bloodstained.

In my opinion General Castlevania Discussion should be renamed, General Bloodstained Discussion after it releases and develops a fanbase, or "Castlevania & Bloodstained discussion", since they are all bonded by IGAvania creation. 

or a new board above General Castlevania Discussion,  General Bloodstained Discussion would be the new modern
discussion board for present day/new generation IGAvanias, with the lower General Castlevania Discussion representing the past IGAvanias.

a new Castlevania/Igavania series doesn't get more official and authentic than Bloodstained.    ;D

at least for now both Castlevania and Bloodstained fit in the general discussion together. 

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So far, I think this game deserves to be included in the forum's CV section.  That may change in the future as more info and gameplay is released.  But as is, it seems to at least be a stepchild of the series.  (Which is basically what Lords of Shadow is also.)

I wouldn't call LoS a stepchild of the series, more like a wannabe reject that isn't a blood relative at all.
You could remove the Castlevania title and Belmont name, and wouldn't know LoS is a "Castlevania". 
Even Circle of the Moon is 1000 times more of a Castlevania than LoS, and it wasn't made by IGA.

meanwhile, you could combine Castlevania title with Bloodstained, and immediately see the connection. 

Every Castlevania/Igavania IGA has created since SOTN, is a masterpiece.



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Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 11, 2015, 03:40:22 PM
Bloodstained is not Castlevania.
However, as its spiritual successor and hitting all the right CV notes, I can give it its own thread in HG101.

We have to treat it similarly to how we did Bloodrayne Betrayal and other non-CV titles that capture the same feeling.

Only since this is an IGA title, that thread would be Staked at the top of the subforum.

Nice sprite, guys! Tweak it up a bit, though!
I'm stealing that image macro as using it on FB.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 03:44:43 PM
Excellent sprites, plottwist and OSM! :D

Anyways, I agree with Jorge. A thread in HG101 might be good, though I do wonder if we might have to become a Bloodstained Ritual forum...the game seems to be very popular and I imagine it'll constitute the bulk of this place's posts for a good while!

With that said, some initial thoughts:

I've very glad to see the game doing as well as it is--fully funded for 500k in *3 hours* is no mean feat! I think the CV community can pat itself on the back for this one. However, I also think the social media people deserve a good deal of credit as well. I gotta say, the #swordorwhip campaign was masterfully done. Simple enough to allow many people to engage with it, but with a bit of 'mystery' to its mechanics (what do those clans do?) to make it engaging. It was also filled with enough shoutouts to the fans--what a wonderful night--but I repeat myself!--to tickle us delightfully. Just on Twitter I've seen the #igavania hashtag light up like a magnesium flare! Those guys definitely knew what they were doing, and it's paid off.

Still, I'm not entirely sold on this project yet. It certainly looks very cool, but no gameplay footage makes Gunlord a suspicious kitty, prunyuu~>:O Also, Kickstarter and Inti Creates don't have the best of reputation...Stardrive was fully funded on Kickstarter, but ended up only half complete, really, and Inti Creates has run into a lot of trouble with Mighty No. 9. So I don't think we're entirely out of the woods yet.

Even so, despite all this, I suppose I feel obligated to throw some money at IGA. As a mod here at the CVD, I ought to join in with my community and show my support for its dreams, even if those dreams seem a long way from fruition. So I guess I'll try to see how much cashmoney is in my Paypal account, and give IGA a lil thing or two. <3

Now, for the most important part of my little spiel, and the one I hope all CV fans everywhere listen to:

Miriam is pretty cute. I give her 7.5 gunfaps out of 10 :3 That rating may rise as she grows on me...right now Shanoa is about 8 out of 10. But we'll have to see how it goes with Miriam. And I do hope they have extra costumes and stuff for her! A French Maid outfit would be just...just...delightful. :3
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Post by: uzo on May 11, 2015, 03:45:39 PM
Let's face it, this is the only CV we're getting from this point on. I say keep it where it is for now.

Oh and PLEDGED. Tax returns, your destiny is not with me!!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: affinity on May 11, 2015, 03:46:05 PM
Bloodstained is not Castlevania.
However, as its spiritual successor and hitting all the right CV notes, I can give it its own thread in HG101.

We have to treat it similarly to how we did Bloodrayne Betrayal and other non-CV titles that capture the same feeling.


but IGA is creating this! the very person that kept Castlevania pumping since SOTN.

 putting the Bloodstained board within HG101 is like stuffing it in a closet.    :o

putting it on the same boat as bloodraybe betrayal just because it is not titled Castlevania, feels somewhat insulting towards IGA and Bloodstained.    :P

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Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 03:47:09 PM
$700,000 reached! Looks like we're getting a 2nd playable character!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: uzo on May 11, 2015, 03:49:08 PM
putting it on the same boat as bloodraybe betrayal just because it is not titled Castlevania, feels somewhat insulting towards IGA and Bloodstained.    :P

Agreed.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 11, 2015, 03:50:23 PM
Let's face it, this is the only CV we're getting from this point on. I say keep it where it is for now.



Agreed.

And Gunlord is right about how the large bulk of discussion is going to come from this game now given Konami's complete disinterest in the CV series at the moment, so I think it deserves to either stay here or have a entire section/sub forum dedicated to it.

but IGA is creating this! the very person that kept Castlevania pumping since SOTN.

 putting the Bloodstained board within HG101 is like stuffing it in a closet.    :o

putting it on the same boat as bloodraybe betrayal just because it is not titled Castlevania, feels somewhat insulting towards IGA and Bloodstained.    :P

Its weird but I felt the same way lol.

No disrespect intended towards Jorge but to even lump this game which is much more CV than Bloodrayne Betrayel seems kinda "off" in my opinion.

While Bloodrayne Betrayel only has a "CV Flare" to it this game feels more like a "spiritual successor" to the CV series itself given what state the series is in now, also IGA himself is at the head of this game, someone who was in charge of the CV series for a while unlike Bloodrayne Betrayel.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 03:52:56 PM
I haven't even been up 2 hours from my nap and we've already got a 2nd character? At this rate Hayter-sama is in the bag.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 03:55:53 PM
I don't necessarily find it insulting to put it on the same level as BloodRayne Betrayal, but rather that it isn't the same. BRB sounds like Castlevania, and looks like it, but doesn't even come close to playing like it.

EDIT: Replies come so fast to this thread that I didn't even catch DarkPrinceAlucard already kinda covered what I said.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 04:08:26 PM
Wow, Yamane and Yamada's attitudes about the music is great.  The fact that Yamane apparently said it was her condition for egtting on board behind this is very epic. 
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 11, 2015, 04:09:37 PM
i dont think this forum should change its name to "bloodstained dungeon." thats a bad idea. people still love castlevania games & castlevania games is what brought us all together, so the forum should always be known as "the castlevania dungeon" despite the series being on permanent hold/near death
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 04:13:44 PM
i dont think this forum should change its name to "bloodstained dungeon." thats a bad idea. people still love castlevania games & castlevania games is what brought us all together, so the forum should always be known as "the castlevania dungeon" despite the series being on permanent hold/near death

I originally said that as a joke.
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Post by: uzo on May 11, 2015, 04:15:26 PM
Yeah, I don't think we need to go that far.
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 04:17:15 PM
A Staked topic at this "General Castlevania Section" would be good enough for Bloodstained, for me. Since we all know it is a Castlevania title except for the name.

Yamane's and Yamada's music can be remixed!
Alrighty people, I think if a lot of you wanted to do it, a thread would be good for showcasing all the works of the dungeon.
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Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 11, 2015, 04:18:04 PM
Yea nothing that far as changing the forum name, We all still love CV after all.

But bloodstain does deserve to have a major place on this forum given what it represents.
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Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 04:19:12 PM
We are the Castlevania Dungeon, and we should stay as such.  I reckon sub-forum for Bloodstained.

I'd love it now if Konami were to sheepishly hand over full rights to Castlevania, admitting defeat, to our dark lord Draculiga.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 11, 2015, 04:23:55 PM
We really should not make a big deal out of this topic lol, Claimh Solais only meant it as a joke, as hyped as we are I think all would agree that the CV Dungeon name should stay the same.
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Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 04:25:07 PM
That would be an ideal situation, Seraph :D
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Post by: beingthehero on May 11, 2015, 04:26:20 PM
We should rename the site Gunlord's Blog.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 04:31:27 PM
We should rename the site Gunlord's Blog.


That cat would be ecstatic.  ;)

I'd love it now if Konami were to sheepishly hand over full rights to Castlevania, admitting defeat, to our dark lord Draculiga.

If only that were to happen.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 11, 2015, 04:31:39 PM
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I'd love it now if Konami were to sheepishly hand over full rights to Castlevania, admitting defeat, to our dark lord Draculiga.

i think it would be phat if instead of them handing/selling the franchise, konami would decide to create 1 last cv game & we the fans would be forced to decide which "does it better"
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 04:33:29 PM
i think it would be phat if instead of them handing/selling the franchise, konami would decide to create 1 last cv game & we the fans would be forced to decide which "does it better"

Konami would not do it. They are undergoing massive corporate restructuring and their gaming divisions are technically dead or dying.

10000+ backers
750000+ usd
WOW!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 04:33:43 PM
Well, Iga's definitely shown himself to be having the last laugh now.
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Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 04:34:06 PM
Perhaps the success of this Kickstarter may convince Konami there is still some leverage in 2DVania, but it's very hard to be optimistic about Konami these days.
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Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 04:35:30 PM
i think it would be phat if instead of them handing/selling the franchise, konami would decide to create 1 last cv game & we the fans would be forced to decide which "does it better"

I would probably pick Draculiga out of spite.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 04:36:05 PM
All publishers IGA went to said that his idea "Bloodstained" is outdated and no one would support it.

IGA's definitely getting the last laugh.
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Post by: beingthehero on May 11, 2015, 04:37:21 PM
10000+ backers
750000+ usd
WOW!

At this rate, it looks like it won't be long 'till we get Nightmare Mode and Hayter-sama's soothing growls...

Also I'm guessing WayForward were among those who said they wouldn't publish it because it would be stepping on Konami's toes, since they've done stuff for them before.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Foffy on May 11, 2015, 04:38:04 PM
Perhaps the success of this Kickstarter may convince Konami there is still some leverage in 2DVania, but it's very hard to be optimistic about Konami these days.

And who will they outsource it to? Their efforts of outsourcing, by and large, have been wasteful efforts. Platinum's effort with Rising is the exception, and we can reasonably argue it was Hideo Kojima who got that to happen.

I would rather the series die outright than them try to get X or Y company to "go back to its roots". How many fuckin' times has Silent Hill tried that? How many times have they - if EVER - gotten it right? Silent Hill as a franchise perfectly summarizes Konami: they burn their own talent and hope they can find someone outside of their domain to make a game like the ones they did, but it never ever happens.

Bloodstained is essentially the next Castlevania game, in exactly the same way that Demon's Souls is King's Field V: too much of the old blood is there for it to be really something seen as totally new and isolated, but mostly changed and evolved.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 11, 2015, 04:38:23 PM
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I would probably pick Draculiga out of spite.

what if their last game was... 1999

and yuo guys had to choose. castlevania 1999 or bloodstained???
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 11, 2015, 04:38:51 PM
Perhaps the success of this Kickstarter may convince Konami there is still some leverage in 2DVania, but it's very hard to be optimistic about Konami these days.

Well the same thing could have been applied to Capcom and Mighty No. 9, that kickstarter showed that a HUGE amount of fans still was interested in the Mega Man market, and yet Capcom hasn't even bothered to jump back into that market even though its obviously still has a audience.

Companies like Capcom and Konami don't think rationally in my opinion, they would rather let their series fade into obscurity rather than admit they where wrong and pounce at a chance to win their fanbase over again.

Besides Konami is definitely the worse out of the 2 at the moment if you ask me, so I doubt they would do the smart thing and try to release a Castlevania game on the heels of this.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 04:39:08 PM
Well, it looks like the top total is going to be reached before the show is finished.

Sadly, based on the reports coming out, as much as I wish it weren't true, I can't foresee more official Castlevania now.... if they do bring more out, it won't be for a good long while.  They really should just hand it over to Iga ad conceed defeat.  The speed at which this KS has been funded shows a heck of a lot.

Edit:  Lol, just a thought..... what if Konami ended up outsourcing an official Castlevania game to Iga, before deciding to let him keep the series? XD
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 04:41:08 PM
They just have to add more stretch goals!

I'm still going with IGA than anything Konami offers now, since I know their video game division is in trouble.
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Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 04:41:42 PM
Gunlord's Bloodstained Blog, meow~

But yeah, even if we don't see another Castlevania game, as long as Bloodstained has the castlevania spirit, I'll be happy. =D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 11, 2015, 04:43:25 PM
Wow, Yamane and Yamada's attitudes about the music is great.  The fact that Yamane apparently said it was her condition for egtting on board behind this is very epic.

The fact she basically is encouraging remixing & live performance covers and uploading them to our heart's content....that right there is why she's my favorite.

And it shows how much freedom she'll be taking advantage of now that she's under a corporate heel and in terms of decrees from Igarashi, he only said "make it catchy". (which I loooooooooooove)

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 11, 2015, 04:44:07 PM
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Companies like Capcom and Konami don't think rationally in my opinion, they would rather let their series fade into obscurity rather than admit they where wrong and pounce at a chance to win their fanbase over again.

thats cuz theres ltierally no middle grownd anymore. if its not a triple AAA high budget success than these companies cant survive. spending all these times & resources into these Hollywood-budget titles that, while profitable, dont reach call of Duty numbers which most of these companies want.

witch is why the gaming industry is on the verge of a crash. capcom is just a shadow of their former self these days. it seems only nintendo will last, despite their Wii-U being a bomb (sorry wii-u supporters but its true)
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Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 11, 2015, 04:49:21 PM
thats cuz theres ltierally no middle grownd anymore. if its not a triple AAA high budget success than these companies cant survive. spending all these times & resources into these Hollywood-budget titles that, while profitable, dont reach call of Duty numbers which most of these companies want.

witch is why the gaming industry is on the verge of a crash. capcom is just a shadow of their former self these days

COD numbers is a unrealistic goal these companies have set for themselves these days, Call of Duty is obviously a different type of phenomenon these days and it simply can not be replicated no matter how much you put into your game, your not going to get those kinds of numbers and game developers should be happy when they make what they spent on the game and then a extra millions's worth of profit, instead they are stuck in the wrong mindstate that if we are not getting close to those Call of Duty numbers than we automatically failed which is BS.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 04:52:08 PM
The fact she basically is encouraging remixing & live performance covers and uploading them to our heart's content....that right there is why she's my favorite.

And it shows how much freedom she'll be taking advantage of now that she's under a corporate heel and in terms of decrees from Igarashi, he only said "make it catchy". (which I loooooooooooove)

I am a very happy Tatt right now.  I can't play instruents aside for sing a little, or do digital remixes, etc, but I love this sort of thing.  Castlevania music, from Classicvania stuff right up to Lords of Shadow, lives on my ipod, which mainly lives in my car these days.  I've been a frothing loon for Castlevania music ever since I discovered the series back in the early 2000s.  I can't wait to be able to get these songs from Bloodstained in Dracul (my car).
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 04:53:26 PM
Edit:  Lol, just a thought..... what if Konami ended up outsourcing an official Castlevania game to Iga, before deciding to let him keep the series? XD

That's a lovely thought, but it ain't gonna happen.

I can't wait to hear what Jorge can do with Yamane's track.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 04:54:16 PM
what if their last game was... 1999

and yuo guys had to choose. castlevania 1999 or bloodstained???

Bloodstained. The 1999 storyline doesn't hold as much weight with me than it does with anyone else. I couldn't care less if they didn't make a 1999 game, since I'm perfectly content with it remaining what it is: lore.
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Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 04:58:15 PM
http://iga-bloodstained.tumblr.com/ (http://iga-bloodstained.tumblr.com/)

Their tumblr is already getting some nice fanart.
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Post by: JR on May 11, 2015, 05:00:44 PM
Well...damn. So many of these tiers look cool, but with the funding deadline being a month away, I think I'm gonna do $100.

I really wanted the $300 tier, but my wife kind of talked me out of it. It would be seriously irresponsible of me financially to do that right now.  :-[

Now it'll be interesting to see what IGA comes up with now that he (presumably) has a larger budget than what Konami offered him for his handheld games.

And just shy of $800,000 already? This may be a bit premature, but...suck it, Konami.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 11, 2015, 05:02:25 PM
I am a very happy Tatt right now.  I can't play instruents aside for sing a little, or do digital remixes, etc, but I love this sort of thing.  Castlevania music, from Classicvania stuff right up to Lords of Shadow, lives on my ipod, which mainly lives in my car these days.  I've been a frothing loon for Castlevania music ever since I discovered the series back in the early 2000s.  I can't wait to be able to get these songs from Bloodstained in Dracul (my car).

I'm already chatting with some of my more musically-inclined buddies about doing arrangements. =D

I need to get her to MAGFest. So. Damn. Badly.
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Post by: beingthehero on May 11, 2015, 05:02:59 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FhK0kk%2Fdd0e5bfcb9.jpg&hash=fbbe770c9345a2cb36f7861ff7e39d01)

Probably already posted but it's still great.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Mike Belmont on May 11, 2015, 05:04:37 PM
I know that this is not a CV game, but the whole introducing video screams Castlevania to me, since the SCVIV homage to the IGA turned in bats. Also, the music is really cool too.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Aiddon on May 11, 2015, 05:07:38 PM
it was partially Kojima's fault since he supported mercurysteam, which is also to blame trying to cashgrab the Castlevania franchise and just looking to make money (just like how Ninja Theory didn't care about ruining DMC
reputation, they were just after money and fame. not taking care of the franchise's foundations, lore and design.
trolling the fanbase since they will get paid under contract anyways.),
but Kojima pushed Konami to choose MS (a very horrible choice) instead of IGA. 

Kojima overrates western developers and underrated Japanese talent.  Hideo doesn't even care about the Metal Gear series much since MGS3, so Castlevania means nothing to him, he just sees the industry more as a science instead of an art, and MGS is the only thing he understands. ) 

but anyways, this actually worked out better for IGA, since Konami is out of touch with the industry anyways,
and IGA can do more outside of that.  full 3D Castlevania just doesn't have the full team, budget and resources to do it right, so 2D and 2.5D are much more adaptable to IGA's style, and the greatest in the series are 2D.

You see even legendary series like Street Fighter use 2.5D instead of full 3D.  can full 3D be better for the series?
it can be, but it could be at the expense of the series gameplay fundamentals and level design strengths.

Y'know, if a Westerner who badly wants to be Japanese is a weaboo, then is a Japanese person who wants to be a Westerner a Westaboo? Because that's what people like Kojima and Inafune always came off as; a couple of brown-nosers who constantly gushed about Western developers...despite Western developers nowadays showing themselves to be a bunch of clowns with no discipline, constantly wasting money and making overhyped shlock. You'd after the first few disappointments they'd catch the hint, but still they went on. It was weird.

Anyway, looks like we're coming up on 800k which means we get a hard mode. I hope that they get a Wii U version up because it'd be nice to have alongside my VC Castlevanias plus if it weren't for Nintendo we wouldn't have over half of Iga's stellar titles.
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Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 05:11:29 PM
$800,000 reached. Nightmare Difficulty confirmed.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 05:13:11 PM
I wonder what would be revealed when they hit a million USD?
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Post by: DonBorrelli on May 11, 2015, 05:14:02 PM
What do you guys think are actually the odds of seeing a Wii U Release?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Ahasverus on May 11, 2015, 05:15:35 PM
The art sucks (WHy not Ayami? Why?) But I'm super excited! Totally on board for not-Castlevania!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 05:16:30 PM
What do you guys think are actually the odds of seeing a Wii U Release?

Is Unreal Engine 4 even compatible with Wii-U? If not, not for a long time.

The art sucks (WHy not Ayami? Why?) But I'm super excited! Totally on board for not-Castlevania!

It states on the Kickstarter page that she had other commitments.
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Post by: Aiddon on May 11, 2015, 05:17:25 PM
What do you guys think are actually the odds of seeing a Wii U Release?

They've made hints of it on the page, but nothing concrete. My guess is that it's a stretch goal since the Unreal Engine 4 (which the game is being made on) doesn't have Wii U compatibility out of the box which means they'd have to modify it. Yet another reason for me to get irritated at Epic.
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Post by: shelverton. on May 11, 2015, 05:18:22 PM
Seeing how successful this kickstarter is already, I hope they add stretch goals for more platforms. I personally would love to see the game squeezed into PS vita, but I think WiiU is more likely. (Or Nintendo NX?)But heck, even if I don't own a WiiU I welcome it. But a Vita version would really make my day  ;D But otherwise I guess I'll be owning a PS4 by the time this game comes out, so no worries.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 11, 2015, 05:18:51 PM
Quote from: Shiroi Koumori
I wonder what would be revealed when they hit a million USD?

iga in a speedo ^.^
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 05:19:50 PM
No clue, but I wouldn't put it past this mark being reached in the next couple of hours.

I'd love to see more backwards compatability, surely this style of game could be supported on say, a PS3 or xbox360?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 11, 2015, 05:20:52 PM
The art sucks (WHy not Ayami? Why?) But I'm super excited! Totally on board for not-Castlevania!

I wouldn't say the art sucks....its pretty beautiful in my opinoin, but is it better than Ayami?

Definitely not.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Aiddon on May 11, 2015, 05:23:12 PM
No clue, but I wouldn't put it past this mark being reached in the next couple of hours.

I'd love to see more backwards compatability, surely this style of game could be supported on say, a PS3 or xbox360?

I forget if the UE4 has PS360 compatibility; then again, there's an ANDROID version of UE4 so I doubt it would take that much effort.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: deadsanto123 on May 11, 2015, 05:23:39 PM
I wouldn't say the art sucks....its pretty beautiful in my opinoin, but is it better than Ayami?

Definitely not.
I agree its not Ayami but it still looks great
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 11, 2015, 05:23:56 PM
the art for castlevania judgment sucked. theres levels to suckage & bloodstained artwork is not on that level. i'd say its good but its hard to top kojima's uniqueness
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 05:24:02 PM
I quite like it, although yeah, it's not Ayami Kojima.  So sad that she's too busy with other stuff, but at least they're saying they'd love to work with her.  Maybe for sequel to this?
Bet you guys that the $850K mark's going to be reached within the hour.
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Post by: Ahasverus on May 11, 2015, 05:24:40 PM
It states on the Kickstarter page that she had other commitments.
I know. I'd take Masaki Hirooka then, the art is truly amateur-ish.

That Michiru song gave me the shudders tho.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 11, 2015, 05:25:35 PM
I have no idea why there's so much hate of the artwork.

Yeah, it's not Ayami Kojima. (actually, who is the lead artist?) IGA tried to get her and couldn't.

But this art style seems like it is a mesh of Rondo of Blood and Order of Ecclesia. I don't see how that's a bad backup.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 05:26:33 PM
I know. I'd take Masaki Hirooka then, the art is truly amateur-ish.

That Michiru song gave me the shudders tho.

This is amateur artwork.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fallenfeather.com%2Fgall%2Fbesexy.jpg&hash=52f0358c95dd602b232aa95a3ed734e5)

The artwork in Bloodstained is by no means amateur. I can see how it wouldn't be some people's cup of tea, but calling it amateur is a bit of a stretch. I for one adore it.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 05:27:26 PM
Maybe Ayami can come back with another game if Bloodletting is successful and warrants a series.

Would IGAcula be the final boss?
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Post by: Kamirine on May 11, 2015, 05:28:11 PM
The art is fine.  Are those songs up on YouTube yet?  I missed them on the stream.
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Post by: JR on May 11, 2015, 05:29:47 PM
Anyone still checking out the Sword or Whip thing? For a second I just caught Draculiga give a Steam key for Axiom Verge, but I was too late to copy it.  :-\

EDIT: just got one for Ori and the Blind Forest.

Bah, never mind. Product key was already activated. Should've seen that coming.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 11, 2015, 05:30:32 PM
well to each their own. art is subjective after all

i am consideration selling 1 of my SotN handhelds & use the profit to pledge the $500 goodies
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 11, 2015, 05:32:45 PM
I know. I'd take Masaki Hirooka then, the art is truly amateur-ish.

That Michiru song gave me the shudders tho.

Ok...

Your view of what is amateurish is definitely different than mine, that picture Claimh Solais posted above is something "truly amateur-ish"
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 11, 2015, 05:34:04 PM
I know. I'd take Masaki Hirooka then, the art is truly amateur-ish.

No, it's really not.

Who knows...Kojima might even find time to contribute a bit of art herself.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 05:34:40 PM
Some 'amateur' artists, i.e. non-professionals, can be better than many professional artists imo.  It depends on the artist.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 11, 2015, 05:36:36 PM
Whoever is doing the art is doing their damnedest to channel Ayami Kojima. I think it looks okay, and it's certainly not like the art from Dawn or Portrait.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 11, 2015, 05:37:19 PM
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No, it's really not.

Who knows...Kojima might even find time to contribute a bit of art herself.

this is possible, if u recall she contributed some of her renditions for dawn Of sorrow
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 05:37:31 PM
I agree that the art isn't on Kojima's level, but I don't think it's bad at all. And if Kojima's too busy, well, there's nothing to be done, she's a professional woman with her own commitments, and we have to respect that. :)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 11, 2015, 05:38:54 PM
for the record i thought the art for lords of shadow 2 was great. could def see some kojima influence there
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 05:39:30 PM
We might be surprised by having a special art insert by Kojima somewhere on the physical copy in the future. Who knows?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 11, 2015, 05:40:34 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150512C%2Fezimba14497878015704.png&hash=d836c9d55ec22ef50fc3a0fd7d3229f2)

Here is the sprite alone.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150512C%2Fezimba14497858598404.png&hash=dae1d29ec1108e72317fc73d5627341c)

Dude post that on the Sword or Whip Twitter.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 05:41:29 PM
I understand the criticism towards the art style, I'm not going to get worked up or form an opinion over anything until I have seen the actual game. They are clearly in the midst of pre-production trying to get production off the ground, so things are subject to change from this point to whenever the game releases. I'm optimistic in thinking this game will surprise and delight us.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 11, 2015, 05:42:47 PM
Well the game is still in the very early development faze right now, who's to say that Ayami Kojima can't show up at some point down the road (once her commitments are done) and take over the artwork?

I hope that is the case, nothing wrong with this artwork but having Kojima back would just be the icing on a already delicious cake.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 05:43:31 PM
Yeah guys, post all your art and stuff on twitter so the IGAvania people can see it, I hear we get more rewards that way :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 05:45:26 PM
Well the game is still in the very early development faze right now, who's to say that Ayami Kojima can't show up at some point down the road (once her commitments are done) and take over the artwork?

I hope that is the case, nothing wrong with this artwork but having Kojima back would just be the icing on a already delicious cake.

That's an extremely unprofessional way of handling the artwork, though. If there is another artist creating art for the game, and hell, they are in the middle of it, they shouldn't just replace the artist. As much as I love Ayami, if IGA let it slide and they got rid of the current artist when they've already put out pieces, I'd lose respect for IGA.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 05:46:06 PM
Less than 10K to go on the top goal.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 05:48:28 PM
That's an extremely unprofessional way of handling the artwork, though. If there is another artist creating art for the game, and hell, they are in the middle of it, they shouldn't just replace the artist. As much as I love Ayami, if IGA let it slide and they got rid of the current artist when they've already put out pieces, I'd lose respect for IGA.
I like the artist.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJdxIEa9.png&hash=9cebf0b1b0dfea4346cfee4fe7d8107a)

They made Miriam a cutie! I'm interested in seeing how this artist tackles the designs of certain monsters and demons for the game.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 05:49:12 PM
I never said the current was bad. I said I adored the current art. And I agree. Miriam is indeed a cutie.

EDIT: SUNLIIIIIIIIIIIGHT!!! $850,000 reached!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 11, 2015, 05:52:56 PM
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never said the current was bad. I said I adored the current art. And I agree. Miriam is indeed a cutie.

stay away from her
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Aiddon on May 11, 2015, 05:53:30 PM
It is not Dawn of Sorrow or Portrait of Ruin's artwork, so it passes that test. All the revealed characters stand out and none of them are bland. Miriam in particular stands out with her unique dress, the horns, her gradient hair, and the odd patterns on her skin that are clearly meant to evoke images of stained glass windows. She's instantly recognizable. Gebel is the same way, his crystallized body giving an element of unease to it. I also wanna see some more monster design as CV was great with those.

PS 850K hit, Hayter is in
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 11, 2015, 05:53:58 PM
That's an extremely unprofessional way of handling the artwork, though. If there is another artist creating art for the game, and hell, they are in the middle of it, they shouldn't just replace the artist. As much as I love Ayami, if IGA let it slide and they got rid of the current artist when they've already put out pieces, I'd lose respect for IGA.

Well so long as IGA made sure to pay the artist in full as well as release his/her previous artwork in a artbook or something alongside the game I think it would be cool, I certainly would not lose any respect for IGA for going with the better artist for his vision, after all the teamup or IGA,Ayami,And Michiru is well synonyms with the CV series.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 05:54:18 PM
I was right!  Stretch goal $850K reached within the hour.  Few more stretch goals just confirmed.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 11, 2015, 05:54:32 PM
Source please.
http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/5/11/8576141/koji-igarashi-day-in-the-life (http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/5/11/8576141/koji-igarashi-day-in-the-life)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 05:55:06 PM
Snake is in!

Hmmm... I can possibly make a cross stitch work out of Gebel... but I need a cleaner image.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 05:56:16 PM
I hope they have Miriam in that maid costume as a special unlockable or something >.>

Anyways, wow, not even a day and Solid Snake sama is already in!!!! Prunyuu~
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 05:59:00 PM
I feel this is appropriate for right now, and this game.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Flegendsoflocalization.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F10%2Fcastlevania-horrible-night-2.png&hash=ea85097f35f0ebe5447102fe4ffbd440)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 05:59:20 PM
I've been watching the podcast and IGA says that this game would take 18 months to 2 years to make.
SotN took about 3 years.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 06:02:23 PM
Snake is in!

Hmmm... I can possibly make a cross stitch work out of Gebel... but I need a cleaner image.

DO IT!  I would!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: X on May 11, 2015, 06:02:46 PM
So IGA decided to create another protagonist who is not only a female, but is also a whip wielder?? YES!! IGA, you're getting better and better at this.

I don't mind the art style either. She looks good. At least it's not another goddamned pretty boy protagonist, Jesus...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: uzo on May 11, 2015, 06:03:21 PM
I have no idea why there's so much hate of the artwork.

Yeah, it's not Ayami Kojima. (actually, who is the lead artist?) IGA tried to get her and couldn't.

But this art style seems like it is a mesh of Rondo of Blood and Order of Ecclesia. I don't see how that's a bad backup.

Agreed here. I think the art is fine.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theANdROId on May 11, 2015, 06:03:58 PM
Wow!  Exciting stuff!  Instead of working all day, I spend the day with my migrained head buried in my pillows.  After a quick look at the KS, I have two questions:

1 - Any opinions on physical vs. digital copies?  I see that plans offer one, the other, or both.  Why would someone want both?  Isn't one or the other just fine?

2 - I don't have time (or desire yet...still fighting off the migraine...it's a doozie!) to catch up on 10+ pages...would someone who's been here tell me what's the general consensus?  Good, bad?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 11, 2015, 06:04:08 PM
hayter is cool and all, but if they really wanna impress me then they gotta get the original 1997 voice actor for Alucard

THAT would be fucking epic
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: uzo on May 11, 2015, 06:04:15 PM
So IGA decided to create another protagonist who is not only a female, but is also a whip wielder?? YES!! IGA, you're getting better and better at this.

More like he is free from corporate overlords now.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 06:04:46 PM
Made a better one that is more appropriate.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F14l09s1.png&hash=14e4d34976d5c78f9f3cb764d91cf531)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 06:05:48 PM
Hmmm...(blush)

Anyways, now that Hayter's in, what are the next stretch goals? Did they say?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 11, 2015, 06:06:30 PM
I've been watching the podcast and IGA says that this game would take 18 months to 2 years to make.
SotN took about 3 years.
Sounds reasonable.

Halloween 2017?
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 06:09:05 PM
DO IT!  I would!

The image would make a very difficult pattern as of now with numerous minute color changes. The same trouble I went through with Nocturne Alucard. It would take a long time to finish. Unless someone can more or less get a less blurry picture at zoom levels...

Urgh... why did I take that commission on making tulips and pansies?.....

Hmmm...(blush)

Anyways, now that Hayter's in, what are the next stretch goals? Did they say?
IGA mentioned in the podcast that there would be secret bosses which would be unlocked as more money enter the KS. They still can't update it now since they are busy with the stream.

Sounds reasonable.

Halloween 2017?

Not bad. Castlevania released in the US in 1987. 30 years anniversary!
Back at ya, Konami.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 06:10:00 PM
Cause tulips are pretty :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 06:10:21 PM
New stretch goals going to be uploaded shortly.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 06:12:30 PM
Watching the stream is fun. My Japanese ability is working simultaneously with my English ability. :)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 06:12:42 PM
In any case, it seems like that "Red Skeleton" guy on /v/ was legit. Everything is just as he said it would be.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 11, 2015, 06:15:00 PM
link to stream plz
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Ratty on May 11, 2015, 06:15:14 PM
Funded in under 4 hours, and already reached all its stretch goals. That has to be some kind of record. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iga/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iga/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 06:22:06 PM
The image would make a very difficult pattern as of now with numerous minute color changes. The same trouble I went through with Nocturne Alucard. It would take a long time to finish. Unless someone can more or less get a less blurry picture at zoom levels...


It's an issue with my Allie pattern that I sent you.  Lots of minute colour changes.  Especially tricky to see what's going on around his lower face and neck/shirt collar.  It's why the first page took me so long.  But worth it!  :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 11, 2015, 06:23:13 PM
konami execs watching the kickstarter like

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc03.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2Ff%2F2012%2F073%2F9%2Fe%2Fangry_trollface_by_tehmaster001-d4sr0oe.jpg&hash=ee4f5c390bb99be6a70367fbb65d3c96)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 06:24:27 PM
Man, I've been listening to the main theme/Dracula's Castle theme from Order of Ecclesia all day while keeping tabs on this kickstarter. Worth it :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 06:36:15 PM
Yup, $1 million mark easily in under 24h.  They've reached the 900K mark already.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 06:39:22 PM
@Crisis: swordorwhip.com has the twitch stream

It's an issue with my Allie pattern that I sent you.  Lots of minute colour changes.  Especially tricky to see what's going on around his lower face and neck/shirt collar.  It's why the first page took me so long.  But worth it!  :D
I know. A full color palette is my aim. Maybe a face icon would be better for a faster project. I'll think about it.

Yup, $1 million mark easily in under 24h.  They've reached the 900K mark already.

Is this a record for KS for video games?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 06:43:41 PM
@Crisis: swordorwhip.com has the twitch stream
I know. A full color palette is my aim. Maybe a face icon would be better for a faster project. I'll think about it.

Is this a record for KS for video games?

Looks like it, from what they've just said on the Twitchstream. 

As for small, face-icon, quick projects, I'm rather tempted to do a mini embroidery of a slightly bigger version of my profile pic.  It's one of my fave pics of Trevorcard. :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 06:47:42 PM
New stretch-goals: https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/774/284/fe4d0c62145dd6c9d9152feb3464d7b6_original.png?v=1431394618&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&lossless=true&s=df89d439bb92ec3538fc58f84f1f8104

$1,000,000 gives cheat codes, and $1,250,000 gives local co-op.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Oniros on May 11, 2015, 06:49:20 PM
New stretch-goals: https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/774/284/fe4d0c62145dd6c9d9152feb3464d7b6_original.png?v=1431394618&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&lossless=true&s=df89d439bb92ec3538fc58f84f1f8104
Lol @ cheat codes. But local co-op is worth shooting for.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 06:49:55 PM
The cheat code icon! Hahahaha.

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/774/284/fe4d0c62145dd6c9d9152feb3464d7b6_original.png?v=1431394618&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&lossless=true&s=df89d439bb92ec3538fc58f84f1f8104)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 11, 2015, 06:50:31 PM
What they said was that it's outpaced Mighty No.9 in terms of how much was raised per hour in the first day.

Dunno if that's a record for KS or not.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 06:53:39 PM
Yup, record, they stated it.

Also, yeah, I agree, local co-op sounds well worth stretching for, and doable, at the rate this is being funded.  I really would love the $100 pledge, but atm.... ack.....  so annoying.  :( 
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 06:55:13 PM
A new record, really? That's impressive. Did it outdo Pillars of Eternity, for the first day at least? Well, either way, this is *extremely* impressive. I'd honestly not imagined there was still this much passion for IGAvanias out there! I suppose I was foolish to underestimate our CV fans :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 06:58:11 PM
I believe so, btu not 100% certain.  I might have misheard.  But it sounded like it might be.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 06:58:43 PM
The KS started at the same time as the stream right?
That would mean it reached 925000+ in 8 hours! Really impressive.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 11, 2015, 07:00:17 PM
I think it started slightly before - about an hour or so earlier, iirc?  I think it was mentioned earlier on the stream.  But either way, good work, Igavania fans.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 11, 2015, 07:18:40 PM
This thing they're saying in the stream about what art is going to be used for the slipcase for the $100+ tiers....they're saying it's going to be a secret and still in the works and "very exciting".

If there was going to be Kojima artwork....that'll be my vote as to where we see it. Here's hoping I'm right. I'll call it now.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 07:21:46 PM
I wonder if they might possibly get Hideo Kojima on board too, somehow. Kojima and Kojima...;o
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 11, 2015, 07:24:00 PM
I wonder if they might possibly get Hideo Kojima on board too, somehow. Kojima and Kojima...;o

I at first thought "How funny would it be to have Hideo Kojima offer his help towards this game, just to put the screws to Konami?"

Then I remembered he's the reason Lords of Shadow got a lot of its hype and thus edged out Igarashi and 2D Castlevanias in the first place....and thought better of it.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: darkmanx_429 on May 11, 2015, 07:24:29 PM
Wow!  Exciting stuff!  Instead of working all day, I spend the day with my migrained head buried in my pillows.  After a quick look at the KS, I have two questions:

1 - Any opinions on physical vs. digital copies?  I see that plans offer one, the other, or both.  Why would someone want both?  Isn't one or the other just fine?

2 - I don't have time (or desire yet...still fighting off the migraine...it's a doozie!) to catch up on 10+ pages...would someone who's been here tell me what's the general consensus?  Good, bad?
I ALWAYS Get the physical copy, one con about DLC games is that if your account ever gets comprised (For whatever reason) i.e. DLC getting removed by update errors etc., there have been instances where players were forced to rebuy DLC or look at Silent Hills . Who is to say that a company could not remove DLC from their consoles (that you bought) in the future. (I see it on the horizon somehow.) All that I "bought" but you "own" gets muddy.

Also I loath waiting for DLC to load even game data! I HAAAAAAAAAAAAATE that sh*t,
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 07:28:00 PM
This thing they're saying in the stream about what art is going to be used for the slipcase for the $100+ tiers....they're saying it's going to be a secret and still in the works and "very exciting".

If there was going to be Kojima artwork....that'll be my vote as to where we see it. Here's hoping I'm right. I'll call it now.

Yeah. They sounded very excited about that. I'm seconding your hunch.


Just a thought...
IGA makes silver rings.
Jorge is a jeweler by trade.
It seems that there is a connection between those two.  8)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Maedhros on May 11, 2015, 07:54:04 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150512C%2Fezimba14497878015704.png&hash=d836c9d55ec22ef50fc3a0fd7d3229f2)

Here is the sprite alone.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ezimba.com%2Fwork%2F150512C%2Fezimba14497858598404.png&hash=dae1d29ec1108e72317fc73d5627341c)
Post this on the Bloodstained tumblr. It'll help unlocking things on the campaign.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 11, 2015, 07:56:52 PM
WHY ISN'T SIMON IN THAT PIC GOSHGIBLETS
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 08:01:15 PM
I've been reading a famitsu article on Bloodstained.
The ages and status of the characters were given as: Miriam (player character) 18, Gebel (enemy) 30 and Johannes (support) 30.

A million is in sight!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: RegalX7 on May 11, 2015, 08:01:59 PM
This will have to be the first game I back on Kickstarter. And what better, at that!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 08:05:05 PM
We broke $1,000,000!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 11, 2015, 08:05:21 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FhKafW%2F2ae25d6ac1.jpg&hash=33d78dc89008b731ee1e6398fb8f1952)


ONE


MILLION


TROOPS
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 11, 2015, 08:06:05 PM
also you'll never guess how much i pledged, apparently
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 08:09:07 PM
hahahaha. Next goal. Local coop.
They have to issue new stretch goals soon.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kamirine on May 11, 2015, 08:11:25 PM
A million before an entire day has passed!  Awesome stuff!  Looking forward to watching this game unfold.  Really like the little we've seen so far. 
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 11, 2015, 08:12:56 PM
I am in awe at how much this game has raised in its first day.

And people thought the genre was dead and unprofitable.

I really wish I could see Konamis CEO right now.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: uzo on May 11, 2015, 08:13:11 PM
This means we must do the 1Mil dance.

DANCE
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 11, 2015, 08:17:46 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Fnewsfeed%2F000%2F301%2F951%2F086.gif&hash=236ee7986a6403dfa2e114266b5d2270)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 11, 2015, 08:20:07 PM
Post this on the Bloodstained tumblr. It'll help unlocking things on the campaign.

I don't think I can post this picture containing Castlevania dudes like that...

WHY ISN'T SIMON IN THAT PIC GOSHGIBLETS

Because he's not Igavania... But I'll remix this picture.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 08:24:51 PM
Because he's not Igavania... But I'll remix this picture.

In all fairness, IGA was in charge of Castlevania Chronicles.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 08:26:09 PM
You can post it dear.
I saw someone post a pixel art of Miriam together with Alucard.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DonBorrelli on May 11, 2015, 08:28:48 PM
Is it just me or does the theme of BloodStained sounds rather similar to the Gusty Garden Galaxy song?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: VladCT on May 11, 2015, 08:30:59 PM
I kinda want to see stretch goals for a time attack mode (for speedrunners) and a classic stage-by-stage mode with scoring, though the latter may be unlikely.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Oniros on May 11, 2015, 08:40:36 PM
Post this on the Bloodstained tumblr. It'll help unlocking things on the campaign.
Oh man, the feels...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on May 11, 2015, 08:47:05 PM
a classic stage-by-stage mode with scoring

This sounds good for those who like Classicvania. Man I'm sooo excited at this game!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 11, 2015, 09:02:33 PM
You can post it dear.
I saw someone post a pixel art of Miriam together with Alucard.

Well, I did post it on Twitter, calling SwordOrWhip, but nothing happened.

Anyway, you all made me create a Tumblr. Here it is (http://empixel.tumblr.com/), and Miriam is the very first post.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 11, 2015, 09:03:59 PM
Well at this rate Co Op is definitely happening, now all thats left is for them to add more goals.

The only likely ones i can think of is new costumes for the 2 playable characters,time attack mode, or boss rush mode.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 11, 2015, 09:23:02 PM
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/53deb4a96fbc0174cc8a42b8be221168/tumblr_nk7hkc2ZXG1riu7ylo1_500.gif)

Aww~ yeah, I'm hoping we hit that local co-op stretch goal! I'd love to play this on my PS4 (and have my digital copy on Steam because, why the hell not?) with my wife (or son if he gets interest when he's old enough). I'm hypin' so hard right now.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Oniros on May 11, 2015, 10:10:17 PM
Well at this rate Co Op is definitely happening, now all thats left is for them to add more goals.

The only likely ones i can think of is new costumes for the 2 playable characters,time attack mode, or boss rush mode.
I really want a mode similar to the Training Hall in OoE.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 11, 2015, 10:15:10 PM
New costumes! New costumes! Maid outfit for Miriam! :D :D :D

Aside from that, what would be really cool is if they included characters from other games. Like how PoR had Sisters mode, maybe they could have Shantae or Shovel Knight or Mighty No. 9 modes :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 11, 2015, 10:16:11 PM
New costumes! New costumes! Maid outfit for Miriam! :D :D :D

Aside from that, what would be really cool is if they included characters from other games. Like how PoR had Sisters mode, maybe they could have Shantae or Shovel Knight or Mighty No. 9 modes :D

I could see stuff with MN09 happening, considering Inti Creates is working on both games.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 11, 2015, 10:21:37 PM
what if their last game was... 1999

and yuo guys had to choose. castlevania 1999 or bloodstained???

What if they do it on purpose as their last game, but like Final Fantasy it revives their company?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: le052383 on May 11, 2015, 10:24:03 PM
I could see stuff with MN09 happening, considering Inti Creates is working on both games.

I can see that as well since Beck was in Mighty Gunvolt and Concept even advertised Bloodstain to those who backed Mighty No. 9 in the form of an email.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 10:24:45 PM
@plot: The person managing the swordorwhip twitter account needs to sleep. Hehehe. Don't worry, if he/she forgot to add your art sometime in the future (perhaps after a few hours after he/she wakes up), you can retweet it again.
Even the stretch goals are not updated. It seems that the people responsible for those are sleeping. They haven't slept for more than 24 hours, so I forgive them.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: The Puritan on May 11, 2015, 10:25:23 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic1.gamespot.com%2Fuploads%2Foriginal%2F1179%2F11799911%2F2863302-blood7.png&hash=fcfeef7794b6e2aecf09eb190cdfc269)

How very Aria of Sorrow. I love it!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 10:26:08 PM
Even Gebel looks like Soma in Alucard's clothing.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Reinhart77 on May 11, 2015, 10:35:05 PM
Essentially pre-ordered my first game on Kickstarter.  Now to figure out if I want any of the other bonus stuff.  That video was great.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Zuljaras on May 11, 2015, 10:37:19 PM
Why the pixelated Miriam sprite looks better than the official concept "screenshot". Oh Castlevania what have you done to me :D

Seriously that picture of Richter and the others counting on Miriam is awesome!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 11, 2015, 10:51:58 PM
Is there any gameplay video of the game yet?

TO be honest, I'm worried for pictures of the game I did not like consept picture at all. Hope bloodstained: ritual of the night looks like DS CV same style.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: RichterB on May 11, 2015, 11:05:24 PM
I'm proud of IGA and associates for putting together such a well-choreographed, clever, and passionate Kickstarter, and what seems to be a fitting alternative to Metroidvania. I think I would like either a Classicvania-type alternate mode, or, more fittingly for this project, I'd want the game to have a design that has areas which emphasize consequential platforming with spikes, traps, and moving parts, along with meaningful enemy placement. (Think Stage 3 of The Adventure Rebirth on Hard.) I realize this project is perhaps more for the Metroidvania fans, but I would hope the Classicvania fans aren't left out in the cold. I have enjoyed Metroidvanias, but they're typically not my preference. Yet, given the amount of time since the last one (unless we're counting MoF?), and the fact that the budget/timing doesn't seem as constrained, the results could trump my tempered expectations of the genre.

I also hope there are areas with a moodier/darker aesthetic than the first promo images suggest. I was expecting the art style to be a little more like Order of Ecclesia. But I think this current art has a fairly broad appeal to it, which is smart.

Overall, I'm excited about the announcement, though, and really happy for IGA, going out and getting it like this. His video intro was very memorable and on-point. The industry DOES need games like this, both in tone and in design.

Is there any gameplay video of the game yet?

TO be honest, I'm worried for pictures of the game I did not like consept picture at all. Hope bloodstained: ritual of the night looks like DS CV same style.

No, there is only concept art and mock-ups. There won't be gameplay for a long while, I don't think. They said it will be 2.5D with shaders to make it look closer to pixel art. Similar to the recent Guilty Gear Xrd or Strider 2014 games. The game will take about 2 years to make, as well. In the meantime, they said they will share visual styles for people to offer their opinions on, if I heard right.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 11, 2015, 11:13:34 PM
WHY ISN'T SIMON IN THAT PIC GOSHGIBLETS

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fs2s6Ved.png&hash=ead6d39456a8dc4d6a58b8fa844556a9)

Better?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 11, 2015, 11:19:47 PM
Nice one Lely! LOL

As of now, less than $100,000 left for the local coop goal.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 11, 2015, 11:34:56 PM
Ok after hearing this, I REALLY want 8 bit arrangements now.
https://soundcloud.com/skitchstudio/rise-of-the-night-remix
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 11, 2015, 11:47:47 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fs2s6Ved.png&hash=ead6d39456a8dc4d6a58b8fa844556a9)

Better?

That's evil. I put Simon there already lol

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F36.media.tumblr.com%2F0273ac692380f3f8aaa83ea12a771b9f%2Ftumblr_no7xn6wqWn1uvuwofo1_540.png&hash=dc353bc4d2afa1ae24e46c87b3d788fd)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Flame on May 11, 2015, 11:56:50 PM
Calling it, Gebel wont be the main villain. He will be the "brainwashed/corrupted comrade". He summoned the castle, but some other alchemist, probebly the creator of the curse in the first place or something, will likely be the main villain behind Gebel.

Gebel will then likely become the Alucard of any future installments.

Im very curious how IGA plans on making this franchise. alchemical crystal curse doesnt seem quite as simple to work with as just "lolvampires" Dracula.

also looking at the mysterious voice credits, im convinced theyll have gotten, (or want to get) Robert Belgrade and/or Dracula's own VA.  theyre too iconic to pass up.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 11, 2015, 11:57:12 PM
One million already? IGA, you bastard. <3
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 11, 2015, 11:58:33 PM
Nalling it, gebel wont be the main villain. He will be the "brainwashed/corrupted comrade". He summoned the castle, but some other alchemist, probebly the creator of the curse in the first place or something, will likely be the main villain behind Gebel.

Gebel will then likely become the Alucard of any future installments.

Im very curious how IGA plans on making this franchise. alchemical crystal curse doesnt seem quite as simple to work with as just "lolvampires" Dracula.

I called it first u.u

And also called that the villain is Johannes. He will pull a Barlowe all over again.

I mean, the fact that Gebel is the "curse's source" and that the heroine is also cursed, but Johannes is the only one clean and helps staggering Miriam's curse on her quest makes me think that Johannes is doing it merely so Miriam can destroy Gebel because "only someone cursed can destroy the curse" or something to this effect, and Johannes wants to become the Demon Castle's master, but only someone profoundly corrupted like Gebel could summon it.

This will be like retelling Lament of Innocence, I predict.

Look at Gebel, for god's sake. He's too obviously "villainesque" and Johannes is too obviously "goody two shoes".
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 12, 2015, 12:03:03 AM
They're about to reach the last stretch goal AGAIN. I wonder where to go next? Do I dare say more platformzzz?? VITA!!? 3DS!?!? Nah. I guess not. And even PS3/360/WiiU is a bit unlikely when I think about it. This game, after all, may not come out until 2017. How relevant will those three consoles be then? Even as someone who keeps all my old consoles and occasionally plays on them, realises that in 2017 the PS4 will be my main console. Had the game been only a few months away I would've wanted it for the PS3 or 360, but I try to be realistic here...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 12, 2015, 12:04:27 AM
I would love a PS3 version (because I'm too poor to buy a PS4 lololol), but the Steam PC version will do. Tempted to pledge $100...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 12, 2015, 12:08:51 AM
I would love a PS3 version (because I'm too poor to buy a PS4 lololol)

That's my point, I'm too poor as well! But we both will be able to save up for it in this time (2 years!). C'MON CHERNABOGUE WE CAN DO THIS DON'T GIVE UP

No but seriously. I keep saying that I should save up for this and that, but in the end I spend everything on other stuff instead :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 12, 2015, 12:41:50 AM
I called it first u.u

And also called that the villain is Johannes. He will pull a Barlowe all over again.

I mean, the fact that Gebel is the "curse's source" and that the heroine is also cursed, but Johannes is the only one clean and helps staggering Miriam's curse on her quest makes me think that Johannes is doing it merely so Miriam can destroy Gebel because "only someone cursed can destroy the curse" or something to this effect, and Johannes wants to become the Demon Castle's master, but only someone profoundly corrupted like Gebel could summon it.

This will be like retelling Lament of Innocence, I predict.

Look at Gebel, for god's sake. He's too obviously "villainesque" and Johannes is too obviously "goody two shoes".

Knowing IGA, yeah, this is a likely route.
There would be a 2nd player option and Gebel is the most likely candidate for this.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 12, 2015, 12:44:24 AM
Knowing IGA, yeah, this is a likely route.
There would be a 2nd player option and Gebel is the most likely candidate for this.

Or Inafune can join us and call Gebel "too boring" and make Vile playable.

*MEGA MAN JOOOOOOKES*
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: The Puritan on May 12, 2015, 01:09:12 AM
but the Steam PC version will do.

Same. Got neither PS4 nor Xbone. I just hope my comp's up to snuff.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 12, 2015, 01:29:26 AM
Knowing IGA, yeah, this is a likely route.
There would be a 2nd player option and Gebel is the most likely candidate for this.

This, also its good to know that Im not the only one that is suspicious about Johannes (it would be hilarious if he is innocent though with everyone pointing at him lol)

Also, someone knows if there is another place to watch this 8 hour video? I don't have confidence in Twitch ways of backup and this video is too good to be lost.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleToastM on May 12, 2015, 02:11:59 AM
Man, it feels like years and years since the last time I posted here.

I actually thought I left behind this place and the castlevania franchise behind a year ago.

But here I am, back for the new IGA project, and I must say, I am backing IGA all the way.

Feels absolutely amazing.

http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=1974 (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=1974)

The very last post I ever made on this forum, I had said I had given up on IGA, and that I wasn't expecting another project from him ever.

I absolutely love that he has proved me wrong. I am so happy to back this project, been waiting for far longer than that last post I made.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 12, 2015, 02:15:53 AM
*glomps pokemetroid* Glad to see you back, friend :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 12, 2015, 02:16:53 AM
Been watching the money pledged rise ever since it started, and I want to keep watching it, but I need to sleep. I imagine local co-op will be added by the time I wake up, unsurprisingly. I wonder if any new stretch goals will be added by the then, too. I can only hope so! There's another 31 days and they need to do something with any extra money they get!

Also, welcome back Pokemetroid! Been a while since I've seen you last around here.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 12, 2015, 02:39:49 AM
They're almost getting at the $1.25M goal. That's insane.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jop on May 12, 2015, 02:43:52 AM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fs2s6Ved.png&hash=ead6d39456a8dc4d6a58b8fa844556a9)

Better?

ha ha ha why did you do that?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 12, 2015, 02:44:36 AM
$1,250,000 reached! Local co-op is a go!

Now where are some more of those stretch goals?

EDIT: Now that there are no more stretch goals, I am gonna get that needed sleep.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 12, 2015, 02:44:48 AM
I have no PS4 or X1 and i can get it only for PC, but i would rather have it for PS3......time for new goals.......



16,200
backers
$1,250,078
pledged of $500,000 goal
31
days to go
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 12, 2015, 02:48:07 AM
This is just amazing.  Man, I really wsnt to be able to support this, and make the $60 pledge, as the bonuses for it are pretty shiny.  No clue tho what platform to opt for - I don't have a PS4, yet, and don't do PC gaming.

Local co-op mode confirmed.  So very stoked about this.

Edit:  Idea.  Alternate costumes - Miriam: Shonoa costume, and Alucard costume for Gebel.

Lelyax, I love this.  The horror, and hilarity, took a few moments to strike home.  Brilliant.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 12, 2015, 02:58:21 AM
But in 2 years time, are you all gonna have the exact same consoles/PCs as you have now? I know I won't, but maybe that's just me. Besides, pledging $60 for either physical version is a great idea regardless cause this is gonna be very easy to sell, if you happen to end up with a different platform in 2 years. It's gonna be rare as f**k. Then you can pick up the digital version for the system you're actually owning.

I'm planning to pick up a PS4 by xmas this year, ir possibly early 2016, so for me the choice was simple.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 12, 2015, 03:24:34 AM
Hope they get a new stretch goal for PS3/X360. Local Co-op on PC sounds strange.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleToastM on May 12, 2015, 03:47:44 AM
I'm essentially a handheld gamer. I gravitate towards handheld Nintendo devices like no other. Lately, I've been playing Street Pass Mii Plaza like it's something I can't possible live without, I need my daily fix. I even went so far to buy eight freaken 3DS, to have more passes on hand.

I own a PS3, with a stack of forty+ games I mean to play, but I seem to never play it, and go to my stacks of 3DS systems instead. I was absolutely ecstatic when Azure Striker Gunvolt came out, and beat it the same day it was released.

And the reason for all this Nintendo Handheld love from me is due to the Castlevania series, I grew up with that series, and it's hardwired into my gaming habits and purchase decisions. Playing and 100% the GBA and DS trilogies made up so much of my early life. It was back before I had my own job and could buy my own games. It was all I had, it was all my parents would buy for me. That series is even what got me into making sprite based animations 2006 - 2011, and what got me interested in Digital Media Art. I've received a Certificate of Completion in DMA, and it was due to the influence of the Metroidvania franchise. Sure, I never use that Certificate for career purposes, but I use those skills as a part of my hobby, something that still continues to shape who I am.

Now, with my back story given, I think it's completely fair for me to say that I am absolutely disappointed and even feel let down and frustrated that the new Metroidvania won't be on the 3DS, a Nintendo Handheld. Ever since I joined the Dungeon back in 2005, I've gone by the username of "CastlePokemetroid", and this is due entirely to IGA's Metroidvania series. It completely shaped who I am, and what I've become.

With all that out of the way, I think I can now let go of this ancient emotional baggage, and completely welcome this new game. Can't wait to play it.

Hope there's a PS3 release, so I can make some use out of this system and HD TV I rarely use. I could probably buy a PS4 when it comes out, but then I'd be buying an entire system for one bloody game, something I wish to avoid. If I won't use a PS3 when I own an entire library of amazing games, I know for a fact I won't use a PS4. Oh man, first world problems.

If there's no PS3 release, I'll stick to PC, even though I don't prefer PC gaming.

Really hoping on a PS3 stretch goal. I'm already on terms that it won't ever be on 3DS, so I'm really wanting a PS3 release.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: LoneChild on May 12, 2015, 04:05:59 AM
New stretch goal: 1.500.000€ - Full pixel art graphics.

Hey, one can dream.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 12, 2015, 04:09:43 AM
Speaking of why not/if this is gonna be on, for example 3DS. The last part is very strange. What to make of this?

"WHAT ABOUT NINTENDO?

Our budget left us with two options: Build the biggest, most beautiful game we can, or make sure it runs everywhere from the start. As things stand today, we can't afford to create the two separate versions of this game that would be necessary to make it run on every console. That said, we've heard legends about a remarkable treasure hidden in the castle basement..."

Wtf do they mean?  :o
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: LoneChild on May 12, 2015, 04:10:59 AM
LOL Android support
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 12, 2015, 04:39:23 AM
I love how there is a pretty much unanimous excitement for this game here. Compare to to 2009 or 2010 when we got "ACCEPT CHANGE" and the "feud" between the Dungeon and the Chapel.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 12, 2015, 04:40:03 AM
I absolutely love that he has proved me wrong. I am so happy to back this project, been waiting for far longer than that last post I made.

You should read this, like, really: http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/5/11/8576141/koji-igarashi-day-in-the-life (http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/5/11/8576141/koji-igarashi-day-in-the-life)

ha ha ha why did you do that?

Because of this xD
WHY ISN'T SIMON IN THAT PIC GOSHGIBLETS

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

This is just amazing.  Man, I really wsnt to be able to support this, and make the $60 pledge, as the bonuses for it are pretty shiny.  No clue tho what platform to opt for - I don't have a PS4, yet, and don't do PC gaming.

Local co-op mode confirmed.  So very stoked about this.

Edit:  Idea.  Alternate costumes - Miriam: Shonoa costume, and Alucard costume for Gebel.

Lelyax, I love this.  The horror, and hilarity, took a few moments to strike home.  Brilliant.

Me too, but dollar is so high here right now that $60 translates into almost R$300, maybe I will get $28 after all... :(
Also thanks for the compliment, I remembered that someone else did this sprite before here in the dungeons so... why not? xD



Speaking of why not/if this is gonna be on, for example 3DS. The last part is very strange. What to make of this?

"WHAT ABOUT NINTENDO?

Our budget left us with two options: Build the biggest, most beautiful game we can, or make sure it runs everywhere from the start. As things stand today, we can't afford to create the two separate versions of this game that would be necessary to make it run on every console. That said, we've heard legends about a remarkable treasure hidden in the castle basement..."

Wtf do they mean?  :o

Are you serious? It was so easy to decipher after these swordorwhip.com training :P

Here we go: They say about a basement right? If you look closely at the kickstarter page, they have things to unlock via achievements. Look at these unlocks and you will see that some stretch goals will go even and much more below than now, we are only seeing the castle now, but we will go to a dungeon. If we reach ALL stretch goals from this dungeon, we receive a Basement Key.

There will be the stretch goal to Nintendo.
(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/771/651/71c887e1f43c25510b72a8fbab65c4c4_original.png?v=1431371499&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&lossless=true&s=ef4fa23aadd2441886da82c6fbe98562)

So if you people really want to knows the rest, let's reach these achievements!

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/769/056/c99fe8820883252c9356cbb0f2600de6_original.png?v=1431348383&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&lossless=true&s=1c1276de83532b0d4f3b39c9befa918d)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 12, 2015, 04:40:54 AM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fs2s6Ved.png&hash=ead6d39456a8dc4d6a58b8fa844556a9)

Better?

Much better!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 12, 2015, 04:45:53 AM
I love how there is a pretty much unanimous excitement for this game here. Compare to to 2009 or 2010 when we got "ACCEPT CHANGE" and the "feud" between the Dungeon and the Chapel.

gabriel_and_patrick_stewart_shaking_han ds.gif
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Kingshango on May 12, 2015, 04:49:00 AM
Speaking of why not/if this is gonna be on, for example 3DS. The last part is very strange. What to make of this?

"WHAT ABOUT NINTENDO?

Our budget left us with two options: Build the biggest, most beautiful game we can, or make sure it runs everywhere from the start. As things stand today, we can't afford to create the two separate versions of this game that would be necessary to make it run on every console. That said, we've heard legends about a remarkable treasure hidden in the castle basement..."

Wtf do they mean?  :o

Translation: "Wii U and 3DS are weaksauce for UE4, what Nintendo has in the pipeline on the otherhand..."

Keep in mind that by the time this game comes out, the 3DS and Wii U successors should be out by then.

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 12, 2015, 04:51:16 AM
You all know what we really want.

Playable IGA.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Aiddon on May 12, 2015, 05:00:38 AM
Speaking of why not/if this is gonna be on, for example 3DS. The last part is very strange. What to make of this?

"WHAT ABOUT NINTENDO?

Our budget left us with two options: Build the biggest, most beautiful game we can, or make sure it runs everywhere from the start. As things stand today, we can't afford to create the two separate versions of this game that would be necessary to make it run on every console. That said, we've heard legends about a remarkable treasure hidden in the castle basement..."

Wtf do they mean?  :o

It means Nintendo platforms are a stretch goal. Considering how Nintendo's handhelds were the home of the series for six entries, Iga owes them BIG. He at least has to make it a possibility
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 12, 2015, 05:03:28 AM
How do we figure out these achievements for the KS? Are supposed to register instantly through your account or something different? Or is the KS crew just keeping track somehow? It's a bit confusing how that all works.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 12, 2015, 05:17:09 AM
Are you serious? It was so easy to decipher after these swordorwhip.com training :P

Oh well, different people find different things easy to decipher, I guess...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on May 12, 2015, 05:19:53 AM
I backed this.
I backed this in a big way.

But I want a Wii-U/3DS version, dammit.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 12, 2015, 05:21:40 AM
How do we figure out these achievements for the KS? Are supposed to register instantly through your account or something different? Or is the KS crew just keeping track somehow? It's a bit confusing how that all works.

They most likely are tracking info from their own accounts, not from KS backers. Treat this as another way to back this project, that doesn't involve money, but help to spread the word.

I backed this.
I backed this in a big way.

But I want a Wii-U/3DS version, dammit.

With a Brinstar secret room? :D
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Post by: Chernabogue on May 12, 2015, 05:32:54 AM
LOL The KS campaign may reach $1.4M before they update their pictures
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: The Puritan on May 12, 2015, 05:48:11 AM
"$10,000: IGAVENTURE

Join IGA on an adventure in Japan! Meet with IGA for dinner at a horror themed restaurant and play games with him on a live stream!"

So which one of you crazy people is gonna do it?

I backed this.
I backed this in a big way.

 :o
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 12, 2015, 06:01:16 AM
Operation Akumajo takes credit for giving IGA the idea to do a KS.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyreactiongifs.com%2Fgifs%2Fnicolascageconfusedemotions.gif&hash=9aba497e06f74908859704ca9a3b6203)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 12, 2015, 06:07:30 AM
Operation Akumajo takes credit for giving IGA the idea to do a KS.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyreactiongifs.com%2Fgifs%2Fnicolascageconfusedemotions.gif&hash=9aba497e06f74908859704ca9a3b6203)

Hahahahaha its funny because its true! LOL

Also, even if we already know about this new game I still visit that teaser site, and IGA said this:
"You ask me to reveal more. But while you remain in the vestibule you are safe."
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 12, 2015, 07:07:58 AM
"$10,000: IGAVENTURE

Join IGA on an adventure in Japan! Meet with IGA for dinner at a horror themed restaurant and play games with him on a live stream!"

So which one of you crazy people is gonna do it?

I would actually feel really awkward doing that (if I had that kind of money). Paying someone to have dinner with me is just... very awkward. Also, would there be an interpreter present? The conversation would feel just... forced. Unless I set it up as an interview or something, but I honestly feel like I know every f-ing thing there is to know about IGA by now.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Anglachel on May 12, 2015, 07:22:50 AM
Will there be collectible furniture?
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Post by: Castle34hk on May 12, 2015, 07:25:51 AM
Okey guys... Did anoyne why IGA not name Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night to Castlevania Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night?  Maybe a werid question but I wondering.

And guys soory for asking but why is this game came out in 2017 and is Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night a sequel to SOTN?

I really hope we will see a gamepaly video soon and pictures in game.. we remeber this picture last year:
http://www.nintendolife.com/forums/news/koji_iga_igarashi_and_rumored_2d_castlevania_type_game (http://www.nintendolife.com/forums/news/koji_iga_igarashi_and_rumored_2d_castlevania_type_game)  I really hope there are game screens.


Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 12, 2015, 07:26:24 AM
I would actually feel really awkward doing that (if I had that kind of money). Paying someone to have dinner with me is just... very awkward. Also, would there be an interpreter present? The conversation would feel just... forced. Unless I set it up as an interview or something, but I honestly feel like I know every f-ing thing there is to know about IGA by now.

It would be an ideal opportunity to ask about every single Castlevania plot hole and unexplained event.

Maybe we should kickstart Nagumo to have that dinner.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 12, 2015, 07:35:33 AM
Okey guys... Did anoyne why IGA not name Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night to Castlevania Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night?  Maybe a werid question but I wondering.
Because Konami is the owner of the CV IP. IGA doesn't have the right to use that name.

And guys soory for asking but why is this game came out in 2017 and is Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night a sequel to SOTN?
1. It takes time to make games.
2. This game isn't related AT ALL to the CV universe. No pre/sequel.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 12, 2015, 07:38:07 AM
I literally emptied my wallet, credit cards and borrowed some from my brother to design an enemy, but before that I want to know the game actual atmosphere before showing any ideas
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 12, 2015, 07:38:30 AM
I literally emptied my wallet, credit cards and borrowed some from my brother to design an enemy, but before that I want to know the game actual atmosphere before showing any ideas
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 12, 2015, 07:48:24 AM
I literally emptied my wallet, credit cards and borrowed some from my brother to design an enemy, but before that I want to know the game actual atmosphere before showing any ideas

Wow! Looking forward to hearing/seeing more about this. Very cool.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 12, 2015, 07:54:48 AM
I cant wait to 2017 guys... ha ha but THXS IGA for metroidvania comeback;)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 12, 2015, 07:56:28 AM
Because Konami is the owner of the CV IP. IGA doesn't have the right to use that name.
1. It takes time to make games.
2. This game isn't related AT ALL to the CV universe. No pre/sequel.
   But wikipedia says Kickstarter-based spiritual successor to the Castlevania series by Igarashi.

THXS for answer but so will it be a New Casltevania game from Konami now more?  Will death came back? Dracula? So no more CAstlevania universe games?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 12, 2015, 08:00:11 AM
   But wikipedia says Kickstarter-based spiritual successor to the Castlevania series by Igarashi.

THXS for answer but so will it be a New Casltevania game from Konami now more?  Will death came back? Dracula? So no more CAstlevania universe games?
Yup, spiritual successor means it will have the same atmosphere/gameplay/whatever, but won't be the SAME.

As for Konami's plans... Well, we'll see.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 12, 2015, 08:05:19 AM
I literally emptied my wallet, credit cards and borrowed some from my brother to design an enemy, but before that I want to know the game actual atmosphere before showing any ideas

Whatever you do, make sure the enemy is called Gunlord. It's his only chance to shine...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 12, 2015, 08:08:40 AM

THXS for answer but so will it be a New Casltevania game from Konami now more?  Will death came back? Dracula? So no more CAstlevania universe games?

There are rumours that Konami isn't that interested in making video games anymore. We'll see after MGS5, I guess. Or maybe at E3 in june. I personally don't think a new Castlevania is coming out anytime soon.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 12, 2015, 08:26:03 AM
"The weapon which most inspires dread will prevail."
"Is consistency an admirable trait or a hobgoblin...?"

Also some of his phrases have been revised.

18,424 backers
$1,417,550
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 12, 2015, 08:47:53 AM
Because of my naive assumption this is going to turn into a series I started a Bloodstained wiki because why not:

http://bloodstainedritualofthenight.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodstained_Wikia (http://bloodstainedritualofthenight.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodstained_Wikia)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 12, 2015, 08:52:57 AM
Because of my naive assumption this is going to turn into a series I started a Bloodstained wiki because why not:

http://bloodstainedritualofthenight.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodstained_Wikia (http://bloodstainedritualofthenight.wikia.com/wiki/Bloodstained_Wikia)

There might be a bit of an issue with the url including Ritual of the Night, since it seems Bloodstained is the series title while Ritual of the Night is probably a traditional style subtitle, so if there are future games, they would likely not keep the Ritual of the Night part but have a different subtitle. Not sure if there's any way to change that on Wikia now though.
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Post by: affinity on May 12, 2015, 09:00:02 AM
Quote
There might be a bit of an issue with the url including Ritual of the Night, since it seems Bloodstained is the series title while Ritual of the Night is probably a traditional style subtitle,

Well yes,  Bloodstained ROTN is like Castlevania SOTN, it marks the beginning of a new era of IGAvania.
So Bloodstained 2 would have a different subtitle instead of sequel number (or it might have both.)

Quote
There are rumours that Konami isn't that interested in making video games anymore. We'll see after MGS5, I guess. Or maybe at E3 in june. I personally don't think a new Castlevania is coming out anytime soon.

people shouldn't hold their breath for new Castlevanias from Konami.  Konami is a disgrace and they
can't be trusted with the franchise anymore.   the only franchise likely to get konami's attention is Metal Gear.

it is a shame konami is too stupid and cheap and stubborn to port Dracula X Chronicles on PS4.   it is a waste on PSP.
And unlike FFType 0, its gameplay is actually adapatable on PS4, being 2D gameplay overall, with no camera issues.

I have DXC on psp but it's so uncomfortable to play compared to console gaming, and I hate how portables pretty
much force you to play closer to the screen (otherwise the further away you hold it, the more stupid it feels and the smaller everything looks.)
 
which is bad for the eyes and hurts the neck, and the platform itself feels so heavy compared to a dual shock4 controller.   I can play console for hours, but for portable it's such a chore to use,
and portable gaming feels so immersion breaking, very uncomfortable platform,

I have that psp cable that can connect to HUD, but again, psp is very uncomfortable to hold and the buttons suck.

I just keep psp because DXC is the greatest Castlevania Collection ever.

the DXC 2.5 remake of Rondo (don't like the character designs but like the new exclusive stuff added to story/game.)
the ORIGINAL Rondo of Blood included (super rare outside of PC.)
AND the definitive version of Symphony of the Night, with more balance, better sprites, better animations, and better more balanced gameplay version of Maria compared to the NITM version. 

Castlevania Harmony of Despair should also be ported to PS4, it would get a fan following just like PS3 version
is still played years after its X360 debut.     

but yeah, konami is not worthy to do anything with Castlevania series
because they would do stupid decisions like outsource to MS or something. 
they are even too stupid and cheap to do Castlevania ports/remasters on PS4, so shouldn't expect anything
from them.   

Quote
Did anoyne why IGA not name Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night to Castlevania Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night?  Maybe a werid question but I wondering.

it doesn't need the Castlevania title to be Castlevania at heart (pun intended).    ;D

Personally, Bloodstained to me feels like the official sequel of Order of Ecclesia
(official from Igavania legacy standpoint, unofficial from konami/copyright standpoint.)

OoE was the last story heavy character driven Castlevania IGA created, 

and Miriam looks like she could be the daughter of Shanoa.

but of course, Bloodstained is its own thing, and shouldn't expect Belmonts or Dracula to be in it, or any
concrete connections to Castlevania stories/world.

Bloodstained could be like a parallel dimension linked to Castlevania.   kinda like how DC Universe has a multiverse
where even separate realities are all canon and can be related to each other.

kind of like how Ninja Gaiden and DOA were originally (and some argue still are) separate universes storywise,
 but they still coexist.

Overall another example would be Final Fantasy, each FF is its own independent world, but they are still all FFs
with tons of relatable things, despite not taking place in the same universe, especially FFs like FFXI and FFXIV lore.   

So Bloodstained ROTN and Castlevania SOTN are kind of like two separate FFs that are connected by IGAvania legacy and qualities.  they have different titles but still share the essence of IGAvania.
  :)



 


Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 12, 2015, 09:01:16 AM
There might be a bit of an issue with the url including Ritual of the Night, since it seems Bloodstained is the series title while Ritual of the Night is probably a traditional style subtitle, so if there are future games, they would likely not keep the Ritual of the Night part but have a different subtitle. Not sure if there's any way to change that on Wikia now though.

Yeah, I had to do that because there already exists (a completely unrelated) Bloodstained wiki. I'll have a think about a solution for that later.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 12, 2015, 09:08:57 AM
Yeah, I had to do that because there already exists (a completely unrelated) Bloodstained wiki. I'll have a think about a solution for that later.

What about Bloodstained Game or Bloodstained Series? Bloodstained IGA? Bloodstained-IGAvania?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 12, 2015, 09:37:58 AM
I wonder when the CM for Bloodstained will update the KS page or if they're freaking out what to do with all their money and trying to come up with new stretch goals.

I agree with some earlier sentiment about Nintendo release probably not going to happen with this current generation. I'm sure IGA contacted some of his contacts at NCL and was given a little scoop of the future (Iwata's been talking about the NX (http://www.techradar.com/us/news/gaming/nintendo-nx-release-date-news-and-rumors-1289401)). This, of course is speculation, makes sense since CV titles on Nintendo handhelds have been pretty solid and I'm sure Nintendo is paying some attention to how the KS is doing to work with IGA in the future and seduce him to create content (maybe even exclusively in the future) for their system. A lot of the hiccups for the 3DS and WiiU launch was related to a weak launch lineup and I'm sure an Igavania title exclusive for them would generate a lot of buzz and be the killer app for us to get one.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Anglachel on May 12, 2015, 09:46:18 AM
When it comes to Konami, I could see them noticing the attention Bloodstained is getting, then announcing a 2D Castlevania game and saying, "See, we had you guys in mind the whole time!"
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleDan on May 12, 2015, 09:48:57 AM
I really think this is IGA's stab at doing Symphony of the Night again.

Think about it... Gebel is Dracula and he looks at Miriam as a person that should be living in the castle with him, and he wants to convince her to battle the humans as well. What does that sound like?

Father and son. Dracula wanting Alucard to join him instead of be against him. Very similar idea just with a female this time. Wish she had a cloak! I want cloak upgrades.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 12, 2015, 09:51:56 AM
Translation: "Wii U and 3DS are weaksauce for UE4, what Nintendo has in the pipeline on the otherhand..."

Keep in mind that by the time this game comes out, the 3DS and Wii U successors should be out by then.
I think it was referring to the stretch goals, because there are two closed windows/doors at the very bottom level of the tower.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 12, 2015, 09:54:17 AM
I wonder when the CM for Bloodstained will update the KS page or if they're freaking out what to do with all their money and trying to come up with new stretch goals.

Yeah, I was wondering about that. I think they didn't expect to raise this much, this fast. I wonder if they threw in 'cheat codes' as sort of a throwaway thing while brainstorming other stretch goals.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 12, 2015, 10:20:13 AM
IMO they already know a lot of stretch goals if they even planned a dungeon and a basement area, but their CM shouldn't be very used to KS. If they show more stretch goals they should reach 2k easily today.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Strider Nemesis on May 12, 2015, 10:26:34 AM
The stretch goals need to end up something like this:

...
$1,000,000 - Cheat Codes
$1,250,000 - Local Co-op
...
$2,500,000 - Wii U port with a later release date
...
$10,000,000 - We'll buy the Castlevania rights from Konami, and rename the game to Castlevania: Bloodstained - Ritual of the Night

Of course, the last goal is unrealistic by all means, but it would be sweet.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 12, 2015, 10:33:35 AM
New goal, secret boss and one more to get unlocked. I think it might be boss rush mode?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 12, 2015, 10:36:11 AM
The secret boss is IGA himself, calling it now.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 12, 2015, 10:39:22 AM
It's a cave troll named Cave Dox.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 12, 2015, 10:53:26 AM
I still want a stretch goal for New Game+ where the entire castle is turned upside down. I'd die.  ;D
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Post by: Lelygax on May 12, 2015, 10:57:30 AM
No, I can read it, its written Speed-Run Mode
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 12, 2015, 11:04:15 AM
Were they really expecting a limited response or something? Because a lot of those achievements should be shown as unlocked, but there's nothing yet. I'm surprised there hasn't been an update, either.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: The Most Curious Thing on May 12, 2015, 11:10:43 AM
Yeah, I was wondering about that. I think they didn't expect to raise this much, this fast. I wonder if they threw in 'cheat codes' as sort of a throwaway thing while brainstorming other stretch goals.
IMO they already know a lot of stretch goals if they even planned a dungeon and a basement area, but their CM shouldn't be very used to KS. If they show more stretch goals they should reach 2k easily today.

My guess is the stretch goals they had planned for $1mil and $1.25mil were ones we haven't seen yet, but they're dangled-carrot stretch goals that IGA/Fangamer/Inti couldn't risk wasting last night, so they bumped them up to higher funding levels. I'm also going to guess they were frantically trying to find a stopgap whenever IGA and Ben were off-camera during the stream and "cheat codes" was a good throwaway option (and hey, another shot at Konami).

Fangamer has run a very solid campaign so far, but their lack of preparation for the best-case scenario, especially a week after Yooka-Laylee, is disappointing.
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Post by: Claimh Solais on May 12, 2015, 11:11:49 AM
$1,500,000 reached. New boss is ours!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 12, 2015, 11:14:21 AM
Were they really expecting a limited response or something? Because a lot of those achievements should be shown as unlocked, but there's nothing yet. I'm surprised there hasn't been an update, either.

I was going to say this, we should at least a couple achievements by now (5k backers, 1k twitter followers, 1k Youtube subs, 1k Facebook likes).
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Strider Nemesis on May 12, 2015, 11:23:03 AM
Remember when people were calling IGA sexist? And now we have Shanoa and Miriam as protagonists in consecutive games. Where are those people now?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: angevil on May 12, 2015, 11:27:42 AM
I also think (actually I thought that about the secret backer-only boss) that one boss will be IGA as Dracula!

The things that disappoint me in this game are:
-it is not Dracula`s castle..nor a game about Dracula, which is one of the main things that attracted me to Castlevanias. IGA could have used Dracula, he is free to use as a character
-I dont like the 2.5D aspect of the game. I wish it was a 2D game..
-Ayami Kojima is missing!
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Post by: Kamirine on May 12, 2015, 11:29:56 AM
Nevermind, late.  :P
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: deadsanto123 on May 12, 2015, 11:34:58 AM
It's a cave troll named Cave Dox.
I would kill this boss so many times
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 12, 2015, 11:47:10 AM
The next two stretch goals after the new boss (according to the Facebook page) are a Speed Run Mode and a Boss Rush Mode. I want to see this happen!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 12, 2015, 11:54:09 AM
Quote
http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/05/11/koji-igarashi-explains-the-name-of-his-new-game.aspx

--A lot of people compare Bloodborne to Castlevania. Have you checked out Bloodborne and what are your thoughts on it?
--I’ve watched my kids play it. Man, that is a very well-made game. The game world and positioning are pretty different, so I was surprised to hear people compare the two games. I love the Cthulhu world, so I hope they keep on making sequels for it.

IGA has a PSQuadruple.

Were they really expecting a limited response or something? Because a lot of those achievements should be shown as unlocked, but there's nothing yet. I'm surprised there hasn't been an update, either.

They said on the Twitch stream yesterday they actually were surprised it got funded that quickly. With a lot of major gaming sites covering it, I don't really think they should have been that surprised given that Kickstarters from unknown figures can sometimes reach 500k or beyond on viral and Youtuber marketing alone and only late, lagging press from major gaming sites once the KS is almost over. Although that is generally not in a few hours...

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 12, 2015, 11:57:18 AM
Remember when people were calling IGA sexist? And now we have Shanoa and Miriam as protagonists in consecutive games. Where are those people now?

I'm still here!  :D

And I'm glad that IGA came around in the end. His attitude towards female characters was really, really bad. And I still stand by that opinion. Though I bet he still feels that female characters are only ok if they have some kind of "magic abilities". UNLESS it was Konami who made him think like that, in which case he's forgiven.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Intersection on May 12, 2015, 12:33:25 PM
Here's a pretty interesting article about the Kickstarter concept:

http://www.polygon.com/2015/5/12/8592901/bloodstain-kickstarter-castlevania-reboot (http://www.polygon.com/2015/5/12/8592901/bloodstain-kickstarter-castlevania-reboot)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: affinity on May 12, 2015, 12:35:03 PM
Quote
I also think (actually I thought that about the secret backer-only boss) that one boss will be IGA as Dracula!

The things that disappoint me in this game are:
-it is not Dracula`s castle..nor a game about Dracula, which is one of the main things that attracted me to Castlevanias. IGA could have used Dracula, he is free to use as a character
-I dont like the 2.5D aspect of the game. I wish it was a 2D game..
-Ayami Kojima is missing!

1. it doesn't need to be Dracula's castle to be awesome and just as great or greater than a Dracula's castle.
look at games like Devil May Cry 1, one of the greatest castle designs outside of a Castlevania. it even gets darker
upon revisiting it.  and Castle Zvahl in FFXI.

2.  2.5d has its advantages.  series that were normally 2D benefit from 2.5D

3.  Bloodstained character designs/art already rival AK's art.  so the art is already taken care of. 

4. there are new original, creative vampires that can surpass Dracula.   it doesn't need Dracula to be awesome
and have a worthy antagonist, whether they are vampire or something else.

I think Bloodstained would benefit more having new/different lead antagonists each game instead of going the
Castlevania route. each time Dracula is defeated makes him look more like a joke getting their ass kicked by
everyone.   it's like their reputation is that of a seasonal punching bag. 

Bloodstained could keep the antagonist side of things fresh instead of recycling an antagonist that keeps
accumulating a bigger loser streak.   

 they sure can be more creative than following Castlevania's tradition with that.


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Post by: Gunlord on May 12, 2015, 12:40:34 PM
Whatever you do, make sure the enemy is called Gunlord. It's his only chance to shine...

Prunyuu~

That said, what was the 'grudge' between the Chapel and the Dungeon, again? I used to be part of the Chapel (still am, technically) but I remember close to nothing about it. Was it because they didn't like LoS so much while we were more enthusiastic about it?
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Post by: GuyStarwind on May 12, 2015, 12:48:18 PM
Ok I'm bummed no Belmont but I'm pumped for an Igavania and having David Hayter in this
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Intersection on May 12, 2015, 12:57:14 PM
Kojima's designs are quite unique, and I don't think any other artist can emulate her signature artistic touch.
But in a way, that's a good thing: Order of Ecclesia showed us that Kojima wasn't the only artist capable of producing personal, yet gorgeous gothic-inspired designs, and Bloodstained's current art doesn't exactly disappoint. You could see it veering off slightly towards a more jarring anime-like approach, but I still find its level of detail, shading, and color palette impressive. I'm actually pretty fond of these flowery stained glass motives.

So I'm actually not too concerned about the game's artistic choices. After all, we've seen much, much worse.
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Post by: Castle34hk on May 12, 2015, 01:06:44 PM
Hey folks!

Thank you very much for your patience! We managed two get a few hours of sleep (being awake for over 40 hours two finalize the Kickstarter is like CHALLENGE MODE !!), and we're currently on our flight back home to our office in Tucson Arizona. We'll get the first backer update posted soon!

Steven Campos
fangame

Source: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iga/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night/comments (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iga/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night/comments)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 12, 2015, 01:08:46 PM
One thing I wondering  about guys this picture last year:

https://www.google.no/search?q=castlevania+rumor+2014&biw=1920&bih=928&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=V11SVf7uBKG2ygPC9IHACg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#imgrc=UmaciwMW5xEr6M%253A%3BsyOY-_QEczmt5M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimages.nintendolife.com%252Fnews%252F2014%252F09%252Frumour_flyer_teases_potential_castlevania_successor_koji_iga_igarashi%252Fattachment%252F0%252F630x.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.nintendolife.com%252Fnews%252F2014%252F09%252Frumour_pax_prime_flyer_teases_potential_2d_castlevania_successor%3B630%3B473 (https://www.google.no/search?q=castlevania+rumor+2014&biw=1920&bih=928&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=V11SVf7uBKG2ygPC9IHACg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#imgrc=UmaciwMW5xEr6M%253A%3BsyOY-_QEczmt5M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimages.nintendolife.com%252Fnews%252F2014%252F09%252Frumour_flyer_teases_potential_castlevania_successor_koji_iga_igarashi%252Fattachment%252F0%252F630x.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.nintendolife.com%252Fnews%252F2014%252F09%252Frumour_pax_prime_flyer_teases_potential_2d_castlevania_successor%3B630%3B473)

Is that Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 12, 2015, 01:11:54 PM
Is that Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night?
Yes.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 12, 2015, 01:20:05 PM
Yes.
   Awesome and more qestions for me that picture says turn you world up side down Castlevana SOTN was so cool the castle turn up side town will bloodstained: ritual of the night turn castle up side down maybe.... The rumors was true last year so my last question last year its says SOTN 2 on 3DS so it was fake right and look at the pictures of that picture maybe in game screens? I hope so. Soory for asking a lot but thnxs for answers :-*
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 12, 2015, 01:24:48 PM
SotN2 was just a rumor.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 12, 2015, 01:27:22 PM
SotN2 was just a rumor.
  Yes right thnxs :rollseyes:   but what about the game screens I really hope there are real game screens I will have that CV style MY video about the rumor last year: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUmHI43mh-I (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUmHI43mh-I) Watch it and you can see what I mean about that beatiful screen;)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 12, 2015, 01:28:59 PM
   Awesome and more qestions for me that picture says turn you world up side down Castlevana SOTN was so cool the castle turn up side town will bloodstained: ritual of the night turn castle up side down maybe.... The rumors was true last year so my last question last year its says SOTN 2 on 3DS so it was fake right and look at the pictures of that picture maybe in game screens? I hope so. Soory for asking a lot but thnxs for answers :-*

It's difficult to answer your questions because we don't know the answers yet. But we do know that this is not SOTN 2 (if that was your question?). I would love to see an upside down castle too but I doubt it will happen. We have to wait and see. The screenshots are probably not ingame screens, just very early concept art.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 12, 2015, 01:37:08 PM
It's difficult to answer your questions because we don't know the answers yet. But we do know that this is not SOTN 2 (if that was your question?). I would love to see an upside down castle too but I doubt it will happen. We have to wait and see. The screenshots are probably not ingame screens, just very early concept art.
  I know now is not SOTN 2 sadly SOTN 2 last year for 3DS just a rumor but anyway IGAs new Metroidvania game will be amazing maybe better than sotn I will be shocked.

But the game screens for this picture is real maybe?:

 https://www.google.no/search?q=castlevania+rumor+2014&biw=1920&bih=928&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=JmRSVeebNoqGywPhhIDoDg&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#imgrc=UmaciwMW5xEr6M%253A%3BsyOY-_QEczmt5M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimages.nintendolife.com%252Fnews%252F2014%252F09%252Frumour_flyer_teases_potential_castlevania_successor_koji_iga_igarashi%252Fattachment%252F0%252F630x.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.nintendolife.com%252Fnews%252F2014%252F09%252Frumour_pax_prime_flyer_teases_potential_2d_castlevania_successor%3B630%3B473 (https://www.google.no/search?q=castlevania+rumor+2014&biw=1920&bih=928&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=JmRSVeebNoqGywPhhIDoDg&sqi=2&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#imgrc=UmaciwMW5xEr6M%253A%3BsyOY-_QEczmt5M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fimages.nintendolife.com%252Fnews%252F2014%252F09%252Frumour_flyer_teases_potential_castlevania_successor_koji_iga_igarashi%252Fattachment%252F0%252F630x.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.nintendolife.com%252Fnews%252F2014%252F09%252Frumour_pax_prime_flyer_teases_potential_2d_castlevania_successor%3B630%3B473)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 12, 2015, 01:40:31 PM
Okey guys I will not have any question more now for a hvile i think so now we need to see bloodstained: ritual of the night in action and game screens.
I am excited but not so really much beacue I will like the style of the game and I really reallt hope for DS GBA style. I am happy with that. Stay fresh and THANK YOU SO MUCH IGA;)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 12, 2015, 01:49:26 PM
Suddenly I remember this post a made after the initial rumor for this,

Yea 4 mill is unrealistic, but I think given how starved the CV fanbase is for a proper title it making 2.5 million is reasonable enough, and who knows it may suprise you with 3 million.

After all as much as I love Mega Man I never thought the kickstarter would reach as much money as It did, but like CV I believed it would do well given how neglected the fanbase has felt from Capcom.

I remember being told it was "unrealistic" to get Mighty No.9 numbers and at the time I started to doubt myself and believe it may be unrealistic....

Don't seem so unrealistic now does it lol? :P

31 days to go and we are already past the 1.5 million mark.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: angevil on May 12, 2015, 01:58:48 PM
  they sure can be more creative than following Castlevania's tradition with that.

To add more of my thoughts..
1) Dracula has certain charm and attraction, because of his legend..Visiting Dracula`s castle in Castlevania is what I loved. I know any castle can be fantastic, and any antagonist can be great, but without Dracula it loses its charm.
I still believe this game can be good. Maybe IGAcula is a new thing.
2) I really dont like 2.5D, it is a thing of taste. I prefer 2D by far. De gustibus non est disputandum :)
3) The other major thing I loved about Castlevania is Ayami Kojima`s art. The only other one I liked was Order of Ecclesia. The art in Bloodstained is not appealing to me and I don`t like it.

So this might be a good game, I am happy IGA is back, and also Michiru Yamane. I hope it turns out great. I am sure it will play similar to Igavanias. It just lacks that something for me. I will wait for updates and gameplay videos to judge more. For now, I am just happy IGA is back and KICKING :)

Stretch goals make me angry. What is a new boss suppose to mean? This makes me not want to support the game. For now the game is in its early development, it will come out in 2 years. It might have 5 or 10 or 15 bosses, no one knows yet. A new boss doesnt mean anything additional, it is really stupid and unfair to have it as stretch goal.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 12, 2015, 02:02:27 PM
Operation Akumajo takes credit for giving IGA the idea to do a KS.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyreactiongifs.com%2Fgifs%2Fnicolascageconfusedemotions.gif&hash=9aba497e06f74908859704ca9a3b6203)

I commented on this with my friends. Cecil is completelly out of his mind.

"IGA accepted our challenge"
"As one of the top donors, I will use whatever clout I have to help this game reach its full potential and satisfy your expectations."


Dude... Calm the fuck down!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 12, 2015, 02:35:34 PM
I commented on this with my friends. Cecil is completelly out of his mind.

"IGA accepted our challenge"
"As one of the top donors, I will use whatever clout I have to help this game reach its full potential and satisfy your expectations."


Dude... Calm the fuck down!

That is the funniest thing I've read all day  ;D
Is he a co-producer all of a sudden?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 12, 2015, 02:45:47 PM
Wait, did he really take credit?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 12, 2015, 02:55:44 PM
Can one person or a small group really take credit? I mean, really...

Iga was surely inspired by the thousands or millions of people who wanted this.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 12, 2015, 03:06:40 PM
Does IGA even know operation: akumajou exists? D:
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 12, 2015, 03:11:29 PM
I imagine this is something Iga's been wanting to do for a lo~ng time, probably even before OoE. Making his ideal game with a proper budget, no corporate interference, telling what story he wants to tell. He's a creator, through and through, and though he loves his fans and acknowledges us, I think he does this more for him and his dreams than to satisfy us.

There's making music to satisfy the mainstream and make big bucks and then there's making music that satisfies you and expresses you. I definitely believe Iga is the latter.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 12, 2015, 03:12:32 PM
Does IGA even know operation: akumajou exists? D:

IGA does. Cecil sent him an open letter back when he resigned from Konami, and IGA responded to it.

And no, I don't think OA is responsible for this new game coming about. That's also why this isn't really a victory for OA, either, since it's not even what they were campaigning for. OA helped make it happen, sure, but it was pretty much everyone did.

IGA was planning this for a while. I don't think it's something anyone can take credit for.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 12, 2015, 03:30:16 PM
Ah. Well, that's really nice of IGA! You're right that OA can't take credit for this though. Still, I suppose I can salute those guys for their enthusiasm. 1.5 million dollars in not even 2 days...like I said, all CV fans, Operation Akumajo, us at the CV dungeon, the old Chapelmen, etc. etc. etc. should be proud :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 12, 2015, 03:37:50 PM
Those of us from ICVD, however...fart in your general direction....
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: uzo on May 12, 2015, 03:48:27 PM
Operation Akumajo takes credit for giving IGA the idea to do a KS.

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmyreactiongifs.com%2Fgifs%2Fnicolascageconfusedemotions.gif&hash=9aba497e06f74908859704ca9a3b6203)

Self important and egotistical as always... I should not be surprised, as much as I am face palming right now.

Also, I can't keep up with like 8 pages a day. Too much, the hype train wont slow down.
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Post by: EstebanT on May 12, 2015, 03:51:43 PM
As if OA wasn't already retardedly mock-worthy.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 12, 2015, 03:54:10 PM
actually i must admit, all that is happening is thanks to me, i have contact w/ iga personally long time

so your welcome cv dungeon
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: uzo on May 12, 2015, 04:32:17 PM
actually i must admit, all that is happening is thanks to me, i have contact w/ iga personally long time

so your welcome cv dungeon

Our true hero.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Darth Cariss on May 12, 2015, 04:34:29 PM
Yo, just an old lurker stopping by to join the hype train. Weeee. ;D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 12, 2015, 04:58:52 PM
Welcome back, Darth Cariss! :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: X on May 12, 2015, 05:28:26 PM
Quote
Remember when people were calling IGA sexist? And now we have Shanoa and Miriam as protagonists in consecutive games. Where are those people now?

I'm still here as well  :D

Maybe in some small we've managed to convince IGA the need for equality in our games. Shanoa was a big step for him, no doubt about it. But I had hoped for a long time that it should have come much sooner, while he and the series was at it's height. Ah well...better late then never I suppose. At least he's been trying now with this new creation of his.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Oniros on May 12, 2015, 05:48:06 PM
Self important and egotistical as always... I should not be surprised, as much as I am face palming right now.

Also, I can't keep up with like 8 pages a day. Too much, the hype train wont slow down.
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTlnPsB5.gif&hash=54cad19779abe2986c16507b19a8638a)

This kickstarter in gif form. I'm ok with this.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: EstebanT on May 12, 2015, 06:10:10 PM
I'm actually Iga in disguise. And I can say Crisis is a liar. I made SotN thanks to OA. Cecil went back in time and inspired me to make it.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: GuyStarwind on May 12, 2015, 06:37:24 PM
Hopefully my computer can play this when it comes out.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 12, 2015, 06:48:58 PM
I'm actually Iga in disguise. And I can say Crisis is a liar. I made SotN thanks to OA. Cecil went back in time and inspired me to make it.

So they still failed miserably, since even with a time machine or something similar they couldn't make the 1999 game happen lol
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 12, 2015, 07:14:01 PM
All day yesterday I was running around and didn't get home until late so I missed the real-time hype. BUT DANG YESSSS!!! We love you Iga can't wait to see this dream become a reality!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: superDioplus on May 12, 2015, 08:32:25 PM
It is such an exciting way for making a come back. I am super glad that this is happening, and hope it would eventually see the light of day. Two years is a long wait but I am sure it will be worth it.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: VladCT on May 12, 2015, 08:33:20 PM
By the way, has IGA ever said any comments regarding speedrunners breaking his games sideways with glitches and whatnot?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theplottwist on May 12, 2015, 09:13:54 PM
By the way, has IGA ever said any comments regarding speedrunners breaking his games sideways with glitches and whatnot?

Yes. In the KindaFunny stream, he said that he feels happy (in a snarky way, I believe) when someone breaks the game somewhere where the code related to it is not his. And then he "feels sorry" (in a "forgive me senpai!" way) when the game is broken in a way related to something he coded.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 12, 2015, 10:27:42 PM
This now has more money than Yooka-Laylee (albeit less backers), which is pretty cool since the latter has people from Donkey friggin' Kong Country - arguably a "bigger deal" than Castlevania for most people.

I honestly didn't expect this, mainly because we were told for quite some time that the later IGAvanias weren't that successful or popular, so I started to believe it. I blame Dave Cox, among others, for this. Though I guess the games didn't exactly set the sales charts on fire, but it was most likely because of shitty marketing. Bloodstained has already had more marketing than any CV in recent memory, even if most of it was word-of-mouth and viral things.

Kickstarter is fab.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 12, 2015, 10:44:04 PM
Don't know if someone raised this issue before, but aren't those goals a bit disappointing? And tiers quite expensive? (Second one at $28? Not surprising this KS gets a LOT of money.)

As for goals, do they really need $25K to put cheat codes in the game? $100K for ONE optional boss? $250K for a Boss Rush mode, that could be in the initial game (like for CV games)??
I know that they'll use money for other stuff too, but I'm disappointed. I'd be more okay with $100K = new area/section, or a unique new mode (not Boss Rush or other character ; Speed Run mode sounds neat though, if it's not just a timer on the top of the screen...) but this sounds a little disappointing compared to other KS campaigns.

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 12, 2015, 10:48:34 PM
This now has more money than Yooka-Laylee (albeit less backers), which is pretty cool since the latter has people from Donkey friggin' Kong Country - arguably a "bigger deal" than Castlevania for most people.

I honestly didn't expect this, mainly because we were told for quite some time that the later IGAvanias weren't that successful or popular, so I started to believe it. I blame Dave Cox, among others, for this. Though I guess the games didn't exactly set the sales charts on fire, but it was most likely because of shitty marketing. Bloodstained has already had more marketing than any CV in recent memory, even if most of it was word-of-mouth and viral things.

Kickstarter is fab.

Yeah, like I mentioned earlier, fangamer deserves a *lot* of credit. Their marketing was fantastic.

Don't know if someone raised this issue before, but aren't those goals a bit disappointing? And tiers quite expensive? (Second one at $28? Not surprising this KS gets a LOT of money.)

As for goals, do they really need $25K to put cheat codes in the game? $100K for ONE optional boss? $250K for a Boss Rush mode, that could be in the initial game (like for CV games)??
I know that they'll use money for other stuff too, but I'm disappointed. I'd be more okay with $100K = new area/section, or a unique new mode (not Boss Rush or other character ; Speed Run mode sounds neat though, if it's not just a timer on the top of the screen...) but this sounds a little disappointing compared to other KS campaigns.


I feel ya, Chernabogue. I wonder if it's because they weren't expecting things to heat up this fast, though. I bet they didn't think they'd reach all the initial stretch goals in *less than a day,* so they had to come up with some new ones real fast without thinking deeply about them. D:
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 12, 2015, 11:04:52 PM
Yup. And putting lower numbers on that would be pointless since they'd just fill up really fast. My only real worry for this game is that it's only gonna be like 5-8 hours like the original Igavanias, and I really hope it's not that short for how much we're spending and how long we're waiting. The extras like other difficulties and such will definitely make it much better, but a longer main campaign would be nice too, even if it was just up to 10-12 hours.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 12, 2015, 11:43:07 PM
Yeah, some stretch goals are pretty weird and vague. I think what should be done on kickstarter like this is to have a very clear vision of what the bare minimum content is, and communicate it to the backers.

Like: "The core experience for $500 000 gives you 10 areas, 13 bosses."
Then it gets easier to understand what the money is for. If they have a stretch goal that says "Two outdoor areas/Explore the outside of the castle" or "An additional boss + room in the Clock Tower" it makes more sense. I think Mighty No.9 handled this pretty well, at least initially.

Anyway, that's my opinion. But I realize that this is the problem with Kickstarters. The game is not finished yet, but at least they should have a rough plan on how big the core game is, and what the content is.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 12, 2015, 11:55:40 PM
Well, about initial goals, i believe that they didn't expect to reach them so soon, so they came with them, just to earn some time and think something better or to see what people would like to see as stretch goals. Now about the art direction, it reminds very much Vagrant Story and i like that, also you can't judge a games art direction with only 4 concept art pictures. Last about the thing of Iga being a sexist, while he has told that a female protagonist is weak, he might not have done a game before OoE that was having a female protagonist, not because he didn't want it, but because maybe Konami didn't gave him the green light.

  Thus the canceled Resurrection for the DC, just saying.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 13, 2015, 12:30:27 AM
Before you start wondering why $500,000 can give the basic game...

IGA already has a company that would back most of this project and the KS is just a mandatory requirement from the company that IGA must prove that he has fans who want this. So technically, the KS money is just for additional stuff.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 13, 2015, 12:38:18 AM
Before you start wondering why $500,000 can give the basic game...

IGA already has a company that would back most of this project and the KS is just a mandatory requirement from the company that IGA must prove that he has fans who want this. So technically, the KS money is just for additional stuff.
I recall IGA said the fans' initial goal of $500K was only 1/10 of the project's money. But again, additional stuff could be a lil' better. ;)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 13, 2015, 12:40:06 AM
I recall IGA said the fans' initial goal of $500K was only 1/10 of the project's money. But again, additional stuff could be a lil' better. ;)

From Gamasutra (http://gamasutra.com/view/news/243131/QA_Castlevanias_Koji_Igarashi_returns_with_new_game_Bloodstained.php)
Question: The details I received say that the game already has funding -- can you talk about the source of that funding, and why you are also going to Kickstarter?

KI: All I can say right now is that after over a year of talking with just about every publisher out there, I was able to secure funding for about 90 percent of the game with the condition that I prove the market still wants an Igavania game. Kickstarter proved to be a great solution, as it would (hopefully) show that people still want an Igavania game while simultaneously providing funds for the core game.

That being said, I'm hoping to clear a few stretch goals so I can add some new features and modes that I've always wanted to do but was never able to in the past. Hopefully, the fact that I've been able to gather most of the investment myself will put to rest any fears that backers may have about this title not being released.


And something really interesting (and to my liking) from Game Informer (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/05/11/koji-igarashi-explains-the-name-of-his-new-game.aspx)
Q: Do prefer playing with a whip or a sword?
IGA: Well, I technically gave birth to the sword-based Igavania-type characters, so I guess my weapon of choice is a sword.


Hahahaha!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 13, 2015, 01:37:53 AM
I'm slightly disappointed by the lack of pledge tier that offers a physical copy of the game, and a copy of the soundtrack before $100.  There's the new, all digital $60 tier, but I'd rather have a physical copy of the game, and not have the strategy book.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleToastM on May 13, 2015, 03:08:27 AM
You should read this, like, really: http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/5/11/8576141/koji-igarashi-day-in-the-life (http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/5/11/8576141/koji-igarashi-day-in-the-life)

I really liked this article. Normally when reading something like this, I space out somewhere in the middle of the read. With this, it captivated my attention throughout the whole thing. I found it really interesting, thanks for the share.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 13, 2015, 04:59:30 AM
I honestly didn't expect this, mainly because we were told for quite some time that the later IGAvanias weren't that successful or popular, so I started to believe it. I blame Dave Cox, among others, for this.

But...he never, ever fibbed to us about anything. D:
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 13, 2015, 05:22:03 AM
From Gamasutra (http://gamasutra.com/view/news/243131/QA_Castlevanias_Koji_Igarashi_returns_with_new_game_Bloodstained.php)
Question: The details I received say that the game already has funding -- can you talk about the source of that funding, and why you are also going to Kickstarter?

KI: All I can say right now is that after over a year of talking with just about every publisher out there, I was able to secure funding for about 90 percent of the game with the condition that I prove the market still wants an Igavania game. Kickstarter proved to be a great solution, as it would (hopefully) show that people still want an Igavania game while simultaneously providing funds for the core game.

I think it's important to draw some more attention to that bolded part. It's also what that article touched upon. Who is providing the funding? How much are we fans are actually supporting this project? And although we probably aren't sticking it to Konami as much as we think we are by backing this project, I wonder if there aren't a couple of people there headdesking after seeing how much support it gets.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 13, 2015, 05:25:28 AM
I read somewhere that the one funding can be a company, an individual, etc. They are vague about who is doing the main funding.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Aiddon on May 13, 2015, 05:48:14 AM
But...he never, ever fibbed to us about anything. D:

That was always the most insufferable thing to listen to about Cox. I don't know what his problem was, but he seemed intent on performing what amounted to a smear campaign against the Igavanias. The thing is he was provably wrong what with people still adoring the titles to this day with Bloodstained's success only reinforcing the notion that people were waiting for another Igavania. If they "failed" it was because of Konami's halfassed support for them, demanding unreasonable expectations from Iga and giving him zero support. It's no wonder they've been having money troubles with their shoddy management while Iga has had the last laugh.
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Post by: Kingshango on May 13, 2015, 06:28:25 AM
I hope the success of Bloodstained's Kickstarter help other former Konami dev's to Kickstart their own Not Konami Ip's in the coming years.

I'd say we're long overdue for a Not Contra.
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Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 13, 2015, 07:22:53 AM
I recall IGA said the fans' initial goal of $500K was only 1/10 of the project's money. But again, additional stuff could be a lil' better. ;)

I think some people are confused about how KS works and how business investment works as well. The game had legit publishing and investment interest but according to Iga they wanted to see if there really was a fanbase for this type of game. Which seems to be something he has been dealing with for most of his career. If anything then think of KS as symbolic. Back in the post-SOTN there really wasn't a way for fans to show their support beyond simply buying the games. Investment is all about mitigating risk and investors are far more willing to go along w a project when it has this massive show of real-world ($$$) support.

As for "How can an extra character cost $____ / Why aren't there better rewards" when making any game as massive and deep as an Igavania there are going to be lots of ideas and touches that get cut down. The SOTN Let's Play talked about some of those, like the Skeleton Candle Lighter, or the dev-style main menu, things that are cool ideas but once it is crunch time w making the main game they get pushed aside. Iga seems to know what he is doing and is a good project leader, and if he starts this game with a nice big budget then he can factor in all these extra things right from the start. Adding a Boss Rush or even a single character can be very time consuming and therefore expensive, and if he knows he will have budgetary leeway right from the start, it will be easier to implement those wo the fear of taking time away from the main game.

Gotta say again I am really looking forward to this game, and I love the main character. The stained glass skin effects sound pretty awesome and something that would be far easier and cooler-looking to pull off in a 2.5 game rather than sprite based.
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Post by: beingthehero on May 13, 2015, 08:06:21 AM
I kinda feel dumb about whining about Inti Creates' involvement. I had no idea they were behind the Mega Man Zero games, and Mega Man 9 and 10. Plus, them co-developing the recent two Shantae games. To be honest I've usually only ever hear of them in connection to Mighty Number 9, which is...not shaping up to be so good. But IGA's a whole other beast than Inafune.

Also Speed Run Mode is now in. Hope to get to $2 mil soon~
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Post by: Aiddon on May 13, 2015, 08:16:05 AM
I kinda feel dumb about whining about Inti Creates' involvement. I had no idea they were behind the Mega Man Zero games, and Mega Man 9 and 10. Plus, them co-developing the recent two Shantae games. To be honest I've usually only ever hear of them in connection to Mighty Number 9, which is...not shaping up to be so good. But IGA's a whole other beast than Inafune.

Yeah, Iga does legitimately have experience directing, designing, etc. He didn't make Castlevania, but he never claimed to and was always honest about his involvement in the series. Inafune on the other hand is, objectively speaking, pretty much a fraud due to having zero director, creator, or designer credits until MN9. His biggest involvement with any project was either as an illustrator or a producer. That's it.
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 13, 2015, 08:26:33 AM
I'd be for Nintendo to be the publisher for Iga, but seeing how the targets were Sony, MS and Steam it makes me wonder who it could be. Capcom has a history for releasing on the three platforms and working with Inti so there's a high possibility it could be them. Bamco seems more Sony aligned with a very minimal PC presence so I feel like they aren't really in the running. Squeenix? They seem more vested in helping indies, release on all platforms (though they do have a Sony bias) and I could see getting behind this. Maybe even Sega, though I feel it might be a lower possibility since their move to concentrate more on the PC and mobile market (though I guess as publishers it wouldn't matter).
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Post by: Nagumo on May 13, 2015, 08:59:49 AM
Plot twist: the mystery funder is Konami.

And Kojima getting fired/Silent Hills getting cancelled was viral marketing for the Phantom Pain.
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Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 13, 2015, 09:07:41 AM
btw when are we getting charged ?!
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 13, 2015, 09:24:18 AM
Plot twist: the mystery funder is Konami.

And Kojima getting fired/Silent Hills getting cancelled was viral marketing for the Phantom Pain.
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FYF2XFw3.gif&hash=31566ae44cf1089a0735e10f226ae542)


btw when are we getting charged ?!
From the KS page: This project will be funded on Fri, Jun 12 2015 8:00 PM PDT. So sometime around/after that.
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Post by: theANdROId on May 13, 2015, 10:12:07 AM
I'm slightly disappointed by the lack of pledge tier that offers a physical copy of the game, and a copy of the soundtrack before $100.  There's the new, all digital $60 tier, but I'd rather have a physical copy of the game, and not have the strategy book.

I kinda wish the tiers were a little different too. I like the $150 tier with the game, trinkets, and art book, and I don't think any others really interest me until $1500+. Not sure I could afford a $200 tier, but I'd probably beg and borrow to get one if it had any one of the features of a 1500+ tier.  This is possibly only the 3rd kickstarter I've ever looked at though, so I don't have much to compare to.
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Post by: Aiddon on May 13, 2015, 10:28:17 AM
Next up is Boss Rush Mode. Apparently they'll be updating the stretch goals later today.
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Post by: beingthehero on May 13, 2015, 11:03:41 AM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2Fmbjmmj9x3%2Figaaaa.jpg&hash=aadc9b1e24be0649ebd41e704018e17b)
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Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 13, 2015, 11:12:55 AM
I kinda wish the tiers were a little different too. I like the $150 tier with the game, trinkets, and art book, and I don't think any others really interest me until $1500+. Not sure I could afford a $200 tier, but I'd probably beg and borrow to get one if it had any one of the features of a 1500+ tier.  This is possibly only the 3rd kickstarter I've ever looked at though, so I don't have much to compare to.

Do note that occasionally they add tiers after the KS has already started based on fan reaction, although I don't think it would really be negotiable to bring something from the $1500 tier down very low, partially just out of necessity probably, since stuff like getting your own room in the game being cheap would kind of get crazy if they had maybe 300 people with special rooms in the game, and stuff like designing an enemy takes some dev time to program the AI for and model in addition to their existing list of enemies.
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Post by: Castle34hk on May 13, 2015, 11:24:09 AM
This is so amazing guys I cant believe how many money this game get and now speedrun mode unloked WOW:

$1.75 million—Speedrun Mode unlocked! I think that's a WR.

Stretch goal and achievement update coming today.

Source: https://twitter.com/swordorwhip

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: affinity on May 13, 2015, 12:58:55 PM
with 2.5D,  Bloodstained can get some really interesting lighting effects, to make things dark and moody and incredible.

DXC is 2.5D and it has some cool atmosphere to it,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNfAC7H56Uc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNfAC7H56Uc)

of course Bloodstained can polish things more for its background and overall modeling and animations.

you know SOTN was kind of colorful, yet still had its dark tones, too.  so ROTN could be darker than what the
gameplay concept art showed.

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Post by: Chernabogue on May 13, 2015, 02:04:50 PM
New goal at $2.25M: 8-bit level.
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Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 13, 2015, 02:53:02 PM
Well it finally happened. Someone took one of the 10k tier rewards. Which one of you was it?  ;)
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Post by: theplottwist on May 13, 2015, 03:03:33 PM
New goal at $2.25M: 8-bit level.

My little heart can't take much more...
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Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 13, 2015, 03:07:26 PM
Well it finally happened. Someone took one of the 10k tier rewards. Which one of you was it?  ;)

I hope whoever it is records the IGA adventure, at times like this I wish I was rich enough to spend that kind of money on stuff like this.
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Post by: Lelygax on May 13, 2015, 03:08:12 PM
This now has more money than Yooka-Laylee (albeit less backers), which is pretty cool since the latter has people from Donkey friggin' Kong Country - arguably a "bigger deal" than Castlevania for most people.

Not exactly since U.S dollars ($) value less than British pounds (£). Like 1 pound for 1,57 dollars right now. So Yooka Laylee have $2.483,202 (£1,577,247) while Bloodstained have $1,820,051

Before you start wondering why $500,000 can give the basic game...

IGA already has a company that would back most of this project and the KS is just a mandatory requirement from the company that IGA must prove that he has fans who want this. So technically, the KS money is just for additional stuff.
I think it's important to draw some more attention to that bolded part. It's also what that article touched upon. Who is providing the funding? How much are we fans are actually supporting this project? And although we probably aren't sticking it to Konami as much as we think we are by backing this project, I wonder if there aren't a couple of people there headdesking after seeing how much support it gets.

So this means that this company will give 4,5kk to fund this game, right?
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 13, 2015, 03:22:39 PM
New goal at $2.25M: 8-bit level.

I'm going to be so disappointed if we don't hit this. Like I will need to start an emo band dedicated to not reaching the 8-bit-tier, something to the effect of "Your anti-aliasing cuts me deeper than 8-bits ever could" and "8-bit hearts bleed 1080p at 60 fps".
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Post by: crisis on May 13, 2015, 03:26:57 PM
while 2.5d is nice, i will always love traditional hi-res sprites more. hand-drawn sprites just have that special charm to them; from the fluid animations of alucard in symphony, to literally seeing soma's cold breath in dawn, amongst many many other details that, while possible to achieve with 2.5d, still wont be quite the same

call me oldschool but i love the clashing effects 2D sprites have with 3D parallax backgrounds, such as the rotating background corridor in that 1 section in super castlevania iv, the 3D chapel with the Great Sword spirit floating in the middle of the room in Symphony.

(https://i0.wp.com/i48.tinypic.com/2e153dx.png)

seeing stuff like this still impresses me till this day, and i will miss that feeling
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Post by: EstebanT on May 13, 2015, 03:33:38 PM
New goal at $2.25M: 8-bit level.
I read this as a joke. Then I found out on my own that it's real. I might die.
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Post by: The Most Curious Thing on May 13, 2015, 03:34:26 PM
This now has more money than Yooka-Laylee (albeit less backers), which is pretty cool since the latter has people from Donkey friggin' Kong Country - arguably a "bigger deal" than Castlevania for most people.

I honestly didn't expect this, mainly because we were told for quite some time that the later IGAvanias weren't that successful or popular, so I started to believe it. I blame Dave Cox, among others, for this. Though I guess the games didn't exactly set the sales charts on fire, but it was most likely because of shitty marketing. Bloodstained has already had more marketing than any CV in recent memory, even if most of it was word-of-mouth and viral things.

Kickstarter is fab.

Bloodstained is still behind Yooka-Laylee by a good $600k -- you're probably looking at the funding of Y-L in pounds, which is only £1.5mil.

I'll be surprised if Bloodstained passes Y-L, but hey, stranger things have happened.
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Post by: Claimh Solais on May 13, 2015, 03:50:51 PM
I'm going to be so disappointed if we don't hit this. Like I will need to start an emo band dedicated to not reaching the 8-bit-tier, something to the effect of "Your anti-aliasing cuts me deeper than 8-bits ever could" and "8-bit hearts bleed 1080p at 60 fps".

10/10 would listen
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Post by: piscesdreams on May 13, 2015, 04:24:06 PM
while 2.5d is nice, i will always love traditional hi-res sprites more. hand-drawn sprites just have that special charm to them; from the fluid animations of alucard in symphony, to literally seeing soma's cold breath in dawn, amongst many many other details that, while possible to achieve with 2.5d, still wont be quite the same

call me oldschool but i love the clashing effects 2D sprites have with 3D parallax backgrounds, such as the rotating background corridor in that 1 section in super castlevania iv, the 3D chapel with the Great Sword spirit floating in the middle of the room in Symphony.

(https://i0.wp.com/i48.tinypic.com/2e153dx.png)

seeing stuff like this still impresses me till this day, and i will miss that feeling

I am right there with you. SOTN is not my favorite in the series, but it was certainly the best looking in my opinion. Such varied environments and palettes, beautifully animated and it has the perfect graphical vibe.
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Post by: beingthehero on May 13, 2015, 04:25:57 PM
I agree too, but from what IGA was saying in that Gamasutra interview, the game is going to be too huge for pixel art.

Quote
We know the fans want heavy 2D gameplay, and that will be a focus with both visuals and gameplay. But going the traditional pixel route was never an option due to budget and manpower restraints -- games this extensive would require a unrealistic number of pixel artists, and Unreal Engine was a perfect middle-ground solution.
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Post by: piscesdreams on May 13, 2015, 04:29:17 PM
So, maybe I missed it. Is it going to have some sprites as pixel art on a 2.5d backdrop? Or will it be things like candles that are sprite based?
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 13, 2015, 04:36:55 PM
Imagine DXC (https://youtu.be/zIBRO8MFK0Y) but looking like GGXrd (https://youtu.be/gwlbx9BFa-g), that's the gist I get from it.
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Post by: piscesdreams on May 13, 2015, 04:44:58 PM
man, that would be sweet!

-mouth waters-
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Post by: beingthehero on May 13, 2015, 04:48:56 PM
I'm fine with the art we have now, but man, it would've been awesome to see Kojima's characters animated like that. A 2.5D game that emulates the look and feel of her paintings would be ballin'. But I guess that's for a future Bloodstained game...
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Post by: piscesdreams on May 13, 2015, 04:51:37 PM
Maybe Kojima can at least do some promotional art, say, cover art even.
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Post by: uzo on May 13, 2015, 04:56:37 PM
Imagine DXC (https://youtu.be/zIBRO8MFK0Y) but looking like GGXrd (https://youtu.be/gwlbx9BFa-g), that's the gist I get from it.

The technology behind Xrd really isn't fit for this kind of game. They got away with it mostly because it is a fighting game and they played to the development strengths and advantages of the genre. It would not be that conducive for this game. Nor would I imagine they would have nearly enough budget to tackle it. Just to give you an idea, each Xrd character model took 3 months just to sculpt and format properly for the effect they wanted. This does NOT include animation time, just simply making the model itself.

Check out the Xrd GDC panel if you want more details and technical explanations. I don't feel like parroting the entire panel here.
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 13, 2015, 05:19:43 PM
Yeah I don't expect the same graphic fidelity as Xrd (though I will have to check out the panel, I'm a sucker for graphics engine talks since I majored in CS with a focus in graphics) but they discussed experimenting with a lot of shaders and community input to replicate a 2D style. The new Strider (https://youtu.be/aAQbh00CcJU) was used as an example during the twitch stream (more signs that Capcom is the publisher?). Though Xrd is probably one of the most gorgeous examples of cel-shading (https://youtu.be/qrYMv83HF5U) there's a lot of history with it and I have hopes that the team can pull off something we'll enjoy.
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Post by: Gunlord on May 13, 2015, 05:36:29 PM
How much money would they need to make Xrd-style graphics? I mean, we're already at 1.8 million and we still have 30 days to go...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 13, 2015, 06:37:27 PM
How much money would they need to make Xrd-style graphics? I mean, we're already at 1.8 million and we still have 30 days to go...

Also if what IGA said in the interview is true, the company funding this project will give more 4.5 million more or less.
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 13, 2015, 07:50:04 PM
One thing is for sure. IGA's finally getting a nice budget for a game he wants to make.
He had low budget games made with good results, imagine what he could do with more money.

They're added more on the popular tiers of Ancestral Bloodline and Runic Forging.
That retro level looks so sweet.
How much money do you think this KS would get at the end of 30 days?

I'm curious as to who gets to be on an IGAVENTURE. Jorge is that you?

I personally wanted the $300 tier but I don't have that amount of spare money nor a credit card.... sigh.  :'(
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Post by: shelverton. on May 13, 2015, 09:04:15 PM
Bloodstained is still behind Yooka-Laylee by a good $600k -- you're probably looking at the funding of Y-L in pounds, which is only £1.5mil.

I'll be surprised if Bloodstained passes Y-L, but hey, stranger things have happened.

Oh my, you're right. I only looked at the numbers and completely missed it was in pounds. Well, now things make more sense.
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Post by: Lelygax on May 13, 2015, 09:47:18 PM
Oh my, you're right. I only looked at the numbers and completely missed it was in pounds. Well, now things make more sense.

Thats ok, at first I did the same LOL
But I would be satisfied if it surpasses Yooka-Laylee and Mighty No 9. I'll do my best to donate some money also, even if I don't have a credit card, I will find someone willing to borrow one, so I'll pay the person and it will pay (tribute) to me this international thing 8)
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Post by: shelverton. on May 14, 2015, 01:04:06 AM
Thats ok, at first I did the same LOL
But I would be satisfied if it surpasses Yooka-Laylee and Mighty No 9. I'll do my best to donate some money also, even if I don't have a credit card, I will find someone willing to borrow one, so I'll pay the person and it will pay (tribute) to me this international thing 8)

I'm gonna put some money in there too, as soon as my pay check arrives :D Not that the game really needs my money anymore, but I really want a physical copy. I would love to see just a snippet of gameplay before I pledge, but I'm guessing there won't be time for that. Maybe an actual sprite from the game? I'll hold on a few more weeks and wait. If nothing shows up before the project is funded, I'll donate on the final day :)
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Post by: The Puritan on May 14, 2015, 01:09:28 AM
I'm curious as to who gets to be on an IGAVENTURE. Jorge is that you?

I wish it was, but I also wouldn't mind it being some eccentric billionaire who happens to be a huge Castlevania fan.
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Post by: shelverton. on May 14, 2015, 01:33:46 AM
We should have put our wallets together to claim the IGAventure tier, and then send one of us on the trip! Someone worthy of the name Belm...eh.. Dungeonite.
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Post by: KaZudra on May 14, 2015, 02:00:17 AM
I'm pledging $60 once I get y pay right, 50% of my checks are mysteriously going away and I might be entitled to a lawsuit if things don't go well
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Post by: Gunlord on May 14, 2015, 02:18:27 AM
*hugs* good luck with the pay issue, friend!
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Post by: CastleToastM on May 14, 2015, 02:27:45 AM
I've managed to be able to buff my pledge from $60 to $100. That's $40 more dollars IGA wouldn't of previously got. Hope it serves him well.

I also want to see my username in the credits, increased right when I realized the fact, so there's that as well.
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Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 14, 2015, 02:38:55 AM
I wish it was, but I also wouldn't mind it being some eccentric billionaire who happens to be a huge Castlevania fan.

I'm a rich middle eastern dude who his family owns an oil company and I STILL see this a bit too expensive. don't forget that you need to pay for your flights, Hotel stay, meals, drivers etc etc... don't worry about taxes in Japan though

this IGAVENTURE gives you 1 opportunity which is meeting IGA and getting most of the kickstarter goodies...not sure if he will take you as his wife with that ring, but if that's the case then that would be pretty neat cheap !
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 14, 2015, 03:06:18 AM
Oh sh*t i just remembered that i live in a corrupt country with an epic fail postal and customs taxation system. I guess i can only support this kickstarter in spirit.  :'(
I want those goodies..... Sigh.
I suppose i just have to wait when it is actually released in 2 years time to get it at a game store without the epic stuff.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 14, 2015, 03:51:55 AM

I suppose i just have to wait when it is actually released in 2 years time to get it at a game store without the epic stuff.

Though it's only gonna be a digital release, so no game store copies. :( Unless it's a stretch goal down the line? But as of now your only chance is to pledge at least $60.
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Post by: Kamirine on May 14, 2015, 05:11:48 AM
I'm not going to lie: that retro level goal is tempting me to bump up my pledge from 300 to 500.  It's the first tier goal I'm excited about/really want other than that local 2 player.

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 14, 2015, 05:12:42 AM
Oh sh*t i just remembered that i live in a corrupt country with an epic fail postal and customs taxation system. I guess i can only support this kickstarter in spirit.  :'(
I want those goodies..... Sigh.
I suppose i just have to wait when it is actually released in 2 years time to get it at a game store without the epic stuff.

Since when you live in Brazil too?  j/k
You can still pledge for digital goodies if you want, like I plan to do. Also remember that you can help us to get these achievements using facebook, twitter, youtube or any other option :P
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleDan on May 14, 2015, 09:01:48 AM
Knowing the publisher is giving them 4.5 million, and that the kickstarter may raise it to over 6 million how good of a budget is that compared to most castlevania games? Especially SOTN. Do we know how much money that game took? I'm really wondering if this will be IGA's biggest budget for a 2D/2.5d styled IGAVANIA game. That plus development time. I imagine they will not be as rushed with this game. I know SOTN took the longest.
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Post by: theANdROId on May 14, 2015, 09:11:56 AM
Do note that occasionally they add tiers after the KS has already started based on fan reaction, although I don't think it would really be negotiable to bring something from the $1500 tier down very low, partially just out of necessity probably, since stuff like getting your own room in the game being cheap would kind of get crazy if they had maybe 300 people with special rooms in the game, and stuff like designing an enemy takes some dev time to program the AI for and model in addition to their existing list of enemies.

I didn't consider that they could add or change tiers.  Maybe I should wait to donate?  I get that they wouldn't be able to change some items (though I hadn't thought about the details you mentioned...good points, and thanks for those.)...but those rings...dang! They look freakin' awesome! I wish those would drop!  Or the signed copy even...that would be pretty sweet too!  How safe is it to wait?  Do they ever end a KS early, or suddenly drop a tier that wasn't initially a limited one? Or should I just get what I can afford while the getting is good?


I guess I'm with a number of others, wishing I had the money to drop $10k with little more than a thought.
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Post by: Castle34hk on May 14, 2015, 09:15:15 AM
Soory if posted but watch this cool video from IGA:

Igavania! A mock-up of Koji Igarashi's Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Ys5adMibI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Ys5adMibI)

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleDan on May 14, 2015, 09:26:05 AM
Oh god, tell me that was a joke. I hope it's not going back to that stilted movement crap.
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Post by: Claimh Solais on May 14, 2015, 09:27:54 AM
Oh god, tell me that was a joke. I hope it's not going back to that stilted movement crap.

100% positive it was just a joke.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleDan on May 14, 2015, 09:33:30 AM
Thank god. So back to what I was saying....

Do we have any idea if 6+ million is a bigger budget than most castlevania's get?
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Post by: shelverton. on May 14, 2015, 10:39:17 AM
Thank god. So back to what I was saying....

Do we have any idea if 6+ million is a bigger budget than most castlevania's get?

One must remember that not all of that money goes to development though. They have to send out the rewards to us and stuff. And printing physical copies to give away to backers too. So this budget already includes some of the return of investment, which can't be considered in the budget at all.

 A 6 million budget game funded outside of kickstarter will start making money once its released, while this has already made money and they're not gonna sell anymore copies to the people who already pledged. They're only gonna sell digital copies to people who didn't back this, and god know how many/few that will be... So basically they have to look at some of the money as profit, not money to put in the game.

I dunno if any of this made sense. I'm tired.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 14, 2015, 11:45:20 AM
How safe is it to wait?  Do they ever end a KS early, or suddenly drop a tier that wasn't initially a limited one?

I have absolutely never seen this happen. Obviously the limited tiers can "sell out" but I've never, in the 8 or so KSes I've followed, seen a tier be dropped or a KS that was successful end early (Ones that were clearly going to fail have been stopped early before, like Shadow of the Eternals).

Knowing the publisher is giving them 4.5 million, and that the kickstarter may raise it to over 6 million how good of a budget is that compared to most castlevania games? Especially SOTN. Do we know how much money that game took? I'm really wondering if this will be IGA's biggest budget for a 2D/2.5d styled IGAVANIA game. That plus development time. I imagine they will not be as rushed with this game. I know SOTN took the longest.


To some extent they're going to need all the budget and time they can get because even SotN reused assets from Rondo. But this game cannot reuse any at all, so it's going to need as much as it can get to be the biggest and best game it can be. I suppose it's mitigated somewhat by it being 2.5D. In fact I'm glad there hasn't been a huge outrage over it not being 2D. While many of us (myself included) would prefer that, a large portion of us must by now be aware that the low number of dot artists still in the industry in Japan has inflated the price of dot art and made that a rather unrealistic possibility. IGA seems to have a pretty good eye for what is realistic given the situation and budgets he works within, probably due to years of being given very sparse budgets by Konami and still putting out good games with said budgets.
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Post by: Lelygax on May 14, 2015, 11:51:59 AM
One must remember that not all of that money goes to development though. They have to send out the rewards to us and stuff. And printing physical copies to give away to backers too. So this budget already includes some of the return of investment, which can't be considered in the budget at all.

 A 6 million budget game funded outside of kickstarter will start making money once its released, while this has already made money and they're not gonna sell anymore copies to the people who already pledged. They're only gonna sell digital copies to people who didn't back this, and god know how many/few that will be... So basically they have to look at some of the money as profit, not money to put in the game.

I dunno if any of this made sense. I'm tired.

You have a point, I forgot about that part about printing and sending things lol
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Post by: CastleDan on May 14, 2015, 12:35:18 PM
Has there been anything said in terms of wanting this game to be bigger than SOTN in all ways? Lol That's my  hope. So much detail put into that game.


The two sample songs are pretty cool btw. The second sounds like it would fit well in with SOTN. I dig it.
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Post by: The Most Curious Thing on May 14, 2015, 01:03:18 PM
One must remember that not all of that money goes to development though. They have to send out the rewards to us and stuff. And printing physical copies to give away to backers too. So this budget already includes some of the return of investment, which can't be considered in the budget at all.

 A 6 million budget game funded outside of kickstarter will start making money once its released, while this has already made money and they're not gonna sell anymore copies to the people who already pledged. They're only gonna sell digital copies to people who didn't back this, and god know how many/few that will be... So basically they have to look at some of the money as profit, not money to put in the game.

I dunno if any of this made sense. I'm tired.

Yeah, the costs of backer reward fulfillment, the fees of Fangamer and 2 Player Productions, and the opportunity cost of lost sales on release are going to take huge chunks out of the Kickstarter money. I don't know the logistics of huge Kickstarter campaigns, but I'm guesstimating about 10% of Kickstarter funding will go into reward fulfillment and about 30% will vanish into lost sales. And Fangamer and 2 Player combined may take out a few hundred thousand more when all's said and done (including all the little stuff that adds up, like travel costs, and bearing in mind that if Fangamer is handling reward fulfillment their fees will quickly scale up to the number of backers).

The lost sales aren't a huge deal for us since Inti/IGA will see the money either way and the budget won't be affected (unless we want to see this turn into a franchise), but Kickstarter money definitely comes at a greater premium than venture capital or traditional publishing.
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Post by: CastleDan on May 14, 2015, 01:05:49 PM
Idk if anyone noticed but they updated the Faq section of the kickstarter ...one thing stuck out.

Will there be an inverted castle? 

Answer:  You’d really want us to spoil it for you? Even though Lord IGA knows the idea of an inverted castle stretch goal would bring in money, he’d rather keep that one as a question mark for now to value creative integrity, first.


I like this answer, god it'd be so cool if this was IGA's spiritual sequel to SOTN. In the sense that it's his second attempt of that in an all new way without being held down by the castlevania name. Fully exploring anything he wants. Here's hoping they end up making a great castle that has a little flip moment!
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Post by: Abnormal Freak on May 14, 2015, 01:18:31 PM
One must remember that not all of that money goes to development though.

I think the Playtonic guys estimated that about 40% of the Kickstarter funds for Yooka-Laylee go toward game development. Figures will vary but yeah, I'd expect half or less than of any Kickstarter for a game of this size to go toward development.

Hoping to contribute to Bloodstained soon. I'd like to get a physical copy so I'll probably need to get a PS4 by the time it comes out. Fine by me since I'd like one for Metal Gear Solid V and some other games anyway.
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Post by: Chernabogue on May 14, 2015, 01:23:34 PM
Meanwhile, at Konami's HQ:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE_bY0KXIAEDv4R.png:large)
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Post by: Castle34hk on May 14, 2015, 01:40:19 PM
Idk if anyone noticed but they updated the Faq section of the kickstarter ...one thing stuck out.

Will there be an inverted castle? 

Answer:  You’d really want us to spoil it for you? Even though Lord IGA knows the idea of an inverted castle stretch goal would bring in money, he’d rather keep that one as a question mark for now to value creative integrity, first.


I like this answer, god it'd be so cool if this was IGA's spiritual sequel to SOTN. In the sense that it's his second attempt of that in an all new way without being held down by the castlevania name. Fully exploring anything he wants. Here's hoping they end up making a great castle that has a little flip moment!
  THXS I really really hope so;)
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Post by: Castle34hk on May 14, 2015, 01:40:57 PM
Meanwhile, at Konami's HQ:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CE_bY0KXIAEDv4R.png:large)
   WOW really? Source?
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Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 14, 2015, 02:03:38 PM
Has there been anything said in terms of wanting this game to be bigger than SOTN in all ways? Lol That's my  hope. So much detail put into that game.


The two sample songs are pretty cool btw. The second sounds like it would fit well in with SOTN. I dig it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TzfM6QUs6A&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TzfM6QUs6A&feature=youtu.be)

here : ) he actually mentioned it that will be the biggest IGAvania game
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Post by: Gunlord on May 14, 2015, 02:22:57 PM
I can't help but feel a little hyped, though of course I well know we've got to wait until well after the kickstarter has finished to see how the project goes :)
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Post by: CastleDan on May 14, 2015, 02:27:10 PM
I can't wait till the kickstarter ends. I wanna see this survey and shader stuff. Something about helping out on a spiritual successor to castlevania is exciting to me.
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Post by: uzo on May 14, 2015, 03:08:13 PM
How much money would they need to make Xrd-style graphics? I mean, we're already at 1.8 million and we still have 30 days to go...

A lot. You can never be 100% accurate but, lets just do a little bit of general math here.

Say you have 2 years to make the game. And each modeler is paid lets say 80k a year. It takes 3 months to make each model. Lets just throw out some numbers for character count like... You have about 60 enemies, 8 bosses, 2 playable characters, 12 NPC's. Each one takes 3 months, since each one is a fully sculpted detailed model.

82 characters x 3 months = 246 months

246 months / 24 months = 20.5 (30) modelers

30 modelers x 100,000$ = 3,000,000$

Starting to see the picture here? Keep in mind this is JUST for the character models, not including environments, props, effects, etc. Hell, this does NOT even include animation! And also recognise that they don't have 2 full years to develop. Planning and nailing down the style takes time, and the final build needs to be tested and approved in advance of the launch as well.

Of course these numbers are somewhat asspulled, but the real game's workload would still be a magnitude higher than this even portrays. You're starting to get into big budget games, which this will never be. But, I believe it never HAS to be either.

Honestly I'm not even sure mimicking sprite animations will look that good in this context. Give me smooth colorful characters and environments. If they wanted to make a low resolution sprite based game then they would have, but they have the opportunity to be so much more than that. I'm glad they took it.

A new igavania for the modern era.
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Post by: RichterB on May 14, 2015, 03:08:48 PM
I think "Symphony of Caps" is a joke based on the news today that Konami apparently said "Mobile" and "Pay-to-Play" are the future of gaming, and their company.

The Classicvania IGA video of him walking and jumping was great! ;D

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Post by: uzo on May 14, 2015, 03:11:33 PM
Oh sh*t i just remembered that i live in a corrupt country with an epic fail postal and customs taxation system. I guess i can only support this kickstarter in spirit.  :'(
I want those goodies..... Sigh.
I suppose i just have to wait when it is actually released in 2 years time to get it at a game store without the epic stuff.

Would it be at all helpful for someone else to pledge on your behalf and send you the items personally?
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Post by: Gunlord on May 14, 2015, 03:16:05 PM
Man, 3 million dollars at minimum? So that means a more likely expense would be anywhere around 30 to 60M. Sheeit...well, I'd like to say we might be able to get to 30M on kickstarter if we managed to get 1M on day 1, but I realize that was just on day 1...it seems like the money's already starting to slow down. We'll probably be able to break 2.25 M, but I estimate the most we can get is 4M. ;-;

Would it be at all helpful for someone else to pledge on your behalf and send you the items personally?

That's an idea, and mighty kind of you too...still, it's a risk if she lives in a country with a postal system as bad as she says. The stuff might get stolen or at least damaged in transit D:
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Post by: uzo on May 14, 2015, 03:49:44 PM
As far as the project money goes, based on what IGA has said... The kickstarter is 1/10 of the budget. The rest will be provided by an interested party, but only if the kickstarter succeeded.

My presumption is that this third party will not be backing proportionally, so just the 4,500,000. SO that is 5m in total, with the minimum kickstarter funds. Anything beyond that is gravy, so, we're technically at 6,950,227$ for the 'total' game budget right now. This is of course overestimating though.

Kickstarter gets 10%. The production of the rewards probably takes another 30%. This leaves about 1,170,137$ actually going into the development of the project. This totals to 6,170,137$.

But now lets ask, what part is going into development and what part is going into legal, and marketing? This is an extraordinarily tough question to answer. Mainly because it is heavily dependant on the way the project is run and the project itself. Lets say for the sake of argument that it is a 60/40 split, 60 for development and 40 for the legal and marketing. The actual game development fund comes to about 3,702,082$ in this case.

These are of course all estimated values, but gives you a base level insight into how these projects get budgeted and balance out.
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Post by: Gunlord on May 14, 2015, 04:40:27 PM
Dang...so many hidden/side costs x-x
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Post by: piscesdreams on May 14, 2015, 05:11:47 PM
Kickstarter gets 10%.

Is that the standard 5% plus a 3-5% processing fee that I have heard about?
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Post by: Lelygax on May 14, 2015, 05:20:33 PM
That's an idea, and mighty kind of you too...still, it's a risk if she lives in a country with a postal system as bad as she says. The stuff might get stolen or at least damaged in transit D:

If it is like in Brazil, the major problem is that sometimes you need to pay taxes even on gifts, that is total bullshit. It is totally random and some people is taxed while others not because of some corporative retarded that thinks that knows something, while knows nothing. Paying 1/4 or more for something that is rightfully yours is hell.
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Post by: VladCT on May 14, 2015, 09:15:18 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI6Hn3f6qNo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KI6Hn3f6qNo)

https://soundcloud.com/skitchstudio/rise-of-the-night-remix (https://soundcloud.com/skitchstudio/rise-of-the-night-remix)
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Post by: Gunlord on May 14, 2015, 10:46:08 PM
That is *really* cool, vladct!
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Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 14, 2015, 10:59:57 PM
arrangements made by talented fans :

- DS Soundfonts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY-qcUaj5Bs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DY-qcUaj5Bs)

- 8 bit https://soundcloud.com/skitchstudio/rise-of-the-night-remix (https://soundcloud.com/skitchstudio/rise-of-the-night-remix)

- Rock ver https://soundcloud.com/kris-escobar/psycho-crusher-bloodstained-theme (https://soundcloud.com/kris-escobar/psycho-crusher-bloodstained-theme)
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Post by: Gunlord on May 14, 2015, 11:09:10 PM
Man, all these cool arrangements. They should really have a remix achievement option, especially since Ms. Yamane specifically asked for remixes to be allowed :)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleToastM on May 15, 2015, 02:00:19 AM
Soory if posted but watch this cool video from IGA:

Igavania! A mock-up of Koji Igarashi's Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Ys5adMibI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7Ys5adMibI)

I died. Laughed at that way more than I should of.
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 15, 2015, 03:18:47 AM
Since when you live in Brazil too?  j/k
You can still pledge for digital goodies if you want, like I plan to do. Also remember that you can help us to get these achievements using facebook, twitter, youtube or any other option :P

Not from Brazil though but whenever I see Brazil on TV and the extreme economic divide among the people, I remember my country. At least the poor in Rio have a great view.

That's an idea, and mighty kind of you too...still, it's a risk if she lives in a country with a postal system as bad as she says. The stuff might get stolen or at least damaged in transit D:

This is correct. I once sent a package from Japan back to my home country and found it opened. Luckily I filled the top with used clothes that I didn't care about.
There are a lot of stories of goods lost in transit, stolen, damaged plus extreme customs taxes that sometimes cost more than the good itself. I don't want to be part of the statistics. There's this recent news that some airport personnel had broken locks from luggages hidden in their lockers and people having lost jewelry, electronics, etc that were placed inside their check-in baggage.
The safest option based on my experience is to use DHL. Yeah, it is so expensive but at least there's the guarantee that the goods arrive on time and in good condition. Of course this method is impossible for KS projects and if someone were to pledge on my behalf, the extra price I have to pay would be really high. Plus, I think DHL is forced to declare the goods and the taxes are scary, I just get to learn the amount when the package arrives at my door.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 15, 2015, 04:27:24 AM
Do you really come from Brazil, Shiroi? You wouldn't have happened to know some people named TheEnd or Neonclover, would you? :o
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 15, 2015, 04:35:48 AM
I am not from Brazil. Look at my IP. That would tell which country I am from. hehehe.
The city/province location varies from what server my ISP is logging me in, but the country is still the same.
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Post by: VladCT on May 15, 2015, 07:08:28 AM
$2M reached - Boss Rush get!
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 15, 2015, 07:09:03 AM
$2,000,672 have been reach!!! Boss Rush mode is unlocked!!!

I came second.....:P
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Post by: Chernabogue on May 15, 2015, 07:12:56 AM
Holy hell, IGA. Two freakin' millions in less than a week!
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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 15, 2015, 07:17:59 AM
Holy hell, IGA. Two freakin' millions in less than a week!

IGA the millionaire!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by: VladCT on May 15, 2015, 07:25:46 AM
By the way, I managed to save the music samples in case you guys want it. Fair warning to audiophiles: it's in CBR 128k.
https://mega.co.nz/#!WV9hiLCA!KeupbNiEvjVvEeuuyiEuLCP8GB5QQ-txmNPJdmF7WUA
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Post by: theANdROId on May 15, 2015, 07:26:16 AM
I just hope we hit the 2.25mil and 35 achievements marks... I really want the retro stuff!
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Post by: Belmontoya on May 15, 2015, 07:48:38 AM
Ok... How much do they really need to make this game?

Bill nyes lightsail space probe hasn't even raised this much.


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Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 15, 2015, 08:38:51 AM
What if these stretch goals they were meant to be in the game and they have made it, just to see how far the fans would go for a 2D vania game from IGA?
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Post by: shelverton. on May 15, 2015, 08:50:24 AM
If the game is really good I don't mind if they put any excess cash in their own pockets. They don't have to keep adding things just because people are pledging. I think IGA deserves to make a little munnies so he can be happy and make more games for us to play!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 15, 2015, 08:54:40 AM
If the game is really good I don't mind if they put any excess cash in their own pockets. They don't have to keep adding things just because people are pledging. I think IGA deserves to make a little munnies so he can be happy and make more games for us to play!

 I didn't say that they want to make money, only a test, they would probably make something else with all the extra money.
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Post by: KaZudra on May 15, 2015, 09:06:19 AM
Ok... How much do they really need to make this game?

Bill nyes lightsail space probe hasn't even raised this much.
Well, the more money going into the game the better, this looks very ambitious and It's getting me pretty hyped to see a Guilty Gear/Blazblue/Hard Corps: uprising style Igavania, most of the money will probably go to hiring sufficient staff to make the game possible in a reasonable amount of time.... unlike a certain Kick-starter game that launched twice just for voice acting and still isn't out yet
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Post by: CastleDan on May 15, 2015, 09:40:25 AM
Anyone else realize it seems like IGA is trying to make his OWN SOTN?

Think about the story for a bit.

Mankind ( Alchemists ) perform ritual using orphans...( two survive it ) the others are sacrificed. Gebel and Miriam survive throughout this process. Gebel becomes totally engulfed by the spell ( full vampire ), Miriam doesn't ( Half vampire half human).... Gebel swears to seek revenge on the alchemists ( Dracula seeking revenge for killing lisa)... Gebel apparently wishes for Miriam to join him but she doesn't and instead goes after Gebel into the castle ...( Alucard and Dracula ....)

It even has Miriam wake up from a lonnnnnng slumber ( like Alucard waking up )

It's definitely a NotSOTN type of tale and honestly I love it. It's different enough but you can see the parallel. People have been saying Gebel is the notAlucard but in reality it is the beautiful Miriam that will be our Alucard.
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Post by: CastleDan on May 15, 2015, 10:12:04 AM
Sorry for the double post but Ben Judd just commented me back on Kickstarter...

Me:

@Ben Judd

You are the man for helping make this happen. I only hope that the team can get the kind of magic needed to somehow re-create the feelings I got when I first played SOTN. The level of subtle detail in that game was astounding. The dialog while cheesy ( in the English version) felt totally gothic and of that time period. I love it.


Ben Judd:

No, no, no. It's YOU GUYS, that are the ones making this happen. IGA is such a nice, nice person and no one deserves this more than him. Gamers empowering devs is such a great thing. Oh... and trust me, still many megatons left to discuss. Keep your eyes peeled on the kickstarter!



EXCITE
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Post by: Belmontoya on May 15, 2015, 10:25:37 AM
I gotta agree that Iga seems super chilled and cool in his interviews.

While there are some things he did with Castlevania that I wasn't 100% happy with, he really does deserve all the praise and support he gets.

I think his best days as a developer are still ahead of him.

I just hope that we also get a Castlevania that we can be as excited about. However we have to come by it.


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Post by: CastleDan on May 15, 2015, 10:31:59 AM


Ben Judd on kickstarter responded again saying:

I'm not going to spoil it by revealing everything just so elate some of the concerns... But I will say this: IGA gets it. He knows what people want and you'll probably be getting it. Personal likes/dislikes aside. Keep those comments coming! Lord IGA is watching!
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Post by: beingthehero on May 15, 2015, 11:44:24 AM
Holy shit, is the new update saying IGA's planning a Classicvania mode too?
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Post by: CastleDan on May 15, 2015, 11:52:22 AM
Yup!

Classic mode rearranges the level designs to make it like classicvania, gets rid of the RPG elements, and it's apparently gonna be six stages from the game. Enemies are stronger, you are weaker.

This game seems like the ultimate NOTCastlevania for fans. Bringing both groups together and making all of us happy.
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Post by: Castle34hk on May 15, 2015, 11:57:00 AM
YESSSS!    ;D  8)  $2 million! To celebrate, we've got two updates coming today ;D

Source: https://twitter.com/swordorwhip
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Post by: piscesdreams on May 15, 2015, 12:05:40 PM
Dude thats exactly what I was saying a few days ago! Thats awesome!
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Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 15, 2015, 12:47:01 PM
Also about the SOTN simularities. "Ritual of the Night" / "Symphony of the Night" it's pretty close.

Everything I hear about this is like adding hype on hype I can't believe this is happening!!!
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Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 15, 2015, 12:51:56 PM
I'm curious but I kind of assume the classic mode will have bottomless pits. While IGA has said he personally doesn't like them, he knows some people are fine with them and the Rondo remake stayed true to the original and had them where Rondo did despite IGA's involvement.
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Post by: CastleDan on May 15, 2015, 12:53:02 PM
Also about the SOTN simularities. "Ritual of the Night" / "Symphony of the Night" it's pretty close.

Everything I hear about this is like adding hype on hype I can't believe this is happening!!!

Yeah, I think it's a conscious decision to try and recreat his own SOTN.
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Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 15, 2015, 12:55:04 PM
OK i finally backed it, for the $60 physical edition. Take all the time you need w this Koji-san, make it the best you can!

I've been a lifetime Castlevania fan, and have bought many games, but most of the Iga games I played on emulators. I feel like contributing mainly to say 'Thank you' for those incredible games, and as a vote in favor of more experiences like that. Earlier today I was playing OoE and was jumping from tree to tree shooting lightning at crows. That is the kind of awesome supernatural experience you don't get it most games.
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 15, 2015, 01:19:20 PM
This is pretty cool of them:

Quote
A Reward For Crushing Our Expectations
We probably shouldn't have doubted you. Once upon a time, back before you shattered our Kickstarter goal in one day, we thought you'd be getting the Diamond Lens right about now, with plenty of castle stretch goals still to unlock.
Instead, because you are amazing, you've ALREADY hit the bottom of the castle. Once you unlock the Retro Level and Classic Mode it'll just be you and the locked door to the castle dungeon, where some very big stretch goals—ones we only dreamed of including—lie in wait.
That means your Diamond Lens, which you are about to lock, is worthless: you've already seen the Castle goals.
If you had to destroy our carefully planned backer achievement system, we're glad you did it like this.
As a reward, then, you've earned five bonus achievements, effective immediately. That brings you within two of the Malevolent Medal, and 12 away from unlocking the Basement Key that will let you collect all the stretch goals you're about to start earning.
Since you didn't really get a chance to use it, we've also asked pixel-IGA's personal jeweler to transmute your Diamond Lens into a Diamond Loupe, which will magnify your view of the castle room in which you find yourself. It should only take a few days, so we'll explain its new powers as soon as it's ready...
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Post by: Dremn on May 15, 2015, 04:21:38 PM
This next goal sounds like a Classicvania! Holy shit!

That did it for me, backing now.
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Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 15, 2015, 04:51:38 PM
Looks like I have enough to be able to make a pledge for a physical copy of the game.  I'm going to go for the PS4 version, as I'll probably end up with one at some point (I blame the trailers for The Witcher 3 Wild Hunt, I love the Wiedzmin tv series and books).  Does anyone know however whether the physical copies will be US localized, however, even for international, non-US pledgers?  (I know this is a bit of a daft question, but it's suddenly struck me!)
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Post by: Reinhart77 on May 15, 2015, 05:14:03 PM
didn't want to use a whip in this game, but i definitely want to use the whip in a classic mode.
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Post by: Oniros on May 15, 2015, 05:36:51 PM
Everything I hear about this is like adding hype on hype I can't believe this is happening!!!
We put Classicvania on your Igavana, so you can 'vania while you 'vania. :)
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Post by: Dremn on May 15, 2015, 05:44:10 PM
I wonder if IGA will have Miriam do the Belmont strut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mif5ya4JUy0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mif5ya4JUy0)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 15, 2015, 05:59:43 PM
We put Classicvania on your Igavana, so you can 'vania while you 'vania. :)

Wouldn't be the first time, he put an Igavania in a Classicvania in DXC!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Maedhros on May 15, 2015, 06:41:48 PM
This and The Witcher 3 are my most anticipated games!

Classic mode is a fantastic idea. Having the game being 2.5D will help with that.

They gave a reason why the game won't be 2D as well. The game will be huge.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 15, 2015, 06:44:28 PM
I'm thinking here and what if this secret boss is like the Forgotten One? But instead of a giant monster, it is IGA that have been prisoned in a dungeon for thousand years by Konami lol

I'm curious but I kind of assume the classic mode will have bottomless pits. While IGA has said he personally doesn't like them, he knows some people are fine with them and the Rondo remake stayed true to the original and had them where Rondo did despite IGA's involvement.

He doesnt like bottomless pits because they don't show what killed you, maybe these pits will show. Like in Rondo of Blood where there is a pit with hands trying to grab you, or spikes.

We put Classicvania on your Igavana, so you can 'vania while you 'vania. :)

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.fjcdn.com%2Fpictures%2FYo%2Bdawg_8e5716_4146998.jpg&hash=3190ff33084358059b73877a1f007a25)


I am not from Brazil. Look at my IP. That would tell which country I am from. hehehe.
The city/province location varies from what server my ISP is logging me in, but the country is still the same.

Sorry about this, its seem that not everyone got my joke. :P
Shiroi isn't from Brazil, I've asked "Since when you live in Brazil too?" as a joke (that is why I included a "j/k" after) because she seems to live in a country with similar laws and bad things, like unfair taxes and bad postal service.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 15, 2015, 07:04:54 PM
The best bottomless pits were in Vampire Killer, because there was no way you could well what was an instant-death pit or a pit that lead to the next area.

Are any of my $100+ homies here bad enough dudes to credit themselves under Clan Iron Flail, so we can represent?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 15, 2015, 07:18:06 PM
I am not from Brazil. Look at my IP. That would tell which country I am from. hehehe.
The city/province location varies from what server my ISP is logging me in, but the country is still the same.

Aw, okee. Well even if you're not from Brazil we love you anyways :D <3

I wonder if IGA will have Miriam do the Belmont strut.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mif5ya4JUy0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mif5ya4JUy0)

That would be cool! :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 15, 2015, 07:22:46 PM
$2,064,152 right now.
Almost reaching $2.522,024 (already converted) from Yooka-Laylee, yippie!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 15, 2015, 08:30:48 PM
The best bottomless pits were in Vampire Killer, because there was no way you could well what was an instant-death pit or a pit that lead to the next area.

Are any of my $100+ homies here bad enough dudes to credit themselves under Clan Iron Flail, so we can represent?
Clan Iron Flail reppin' like a boss! Which I also think is nice since the tab icon for the dungeon is an iron flail.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 15, 2015, 10:43:35 PM
Sorry about this, its seem that not everyone got my joke. :P
Shiroi isn't from Brazil, I've asked "Since when you live in Brazil too?" as a joke (that is why I included a "j/k" after) because she seems to live in a country with similar laws and bad things, like unfair taxes and bad postal service.

I've looked at the World Bank data indicators and Brazil is better off having a upper middle income status.
Lower middle income countries with a long history of colonization like mine are not that favorable. Add to that fact that the rest of the neighboring countries have increased their status in a few years time.... I just hope that my students find a way to improve my country and not go through the route of migrating abroad.

Aw, okee. Well even if you're not from Brazil we love you anyways :D <3

Thank you prunyuu~! ♪♥♫

---------------------------------------------------------------

Onto the Kickstarter page.
I just noticed that whoever backed the $10000 tier, backed off.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: LoneChild on May 16, 2015, 12:53:48 AM
Thanks from IGA, and some question answering in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTKEUZphbR0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTKEUZphbR0)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 16, 2015, 01:48:16 AM
I've looked at the World Bank data indicators and Brazil is better off having a upper middle income status.
Lower middle income countries with a long history of colonization like mine are not that favorable. Add to that fact that the rest of the neighboring countries have increased their status in a few years time.... I just hope that my students find a way to improve my country and not go through the route of migrating abroad.

I don't understand about this, but maybe this is because the taxes here are absurd for almost any product. But this doesn't change the fact that we two could be in a better place right? (even if I love where I live and the people that I know here) hahahaha

Onto the Kickstarter page.
I just noticed that whoever backed the $10000 tier, backed off.

Maybe they found out that IGA is indeed a vampire and are affraid of him? :o

26,521 servants
$2,074,571


EDIT: I don't think that everyone noticed, but the "Update" section on the KS page is already working (yes, I only noticed it now becuz I thought it would feature a number, like in "comments") and have some videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTKEUZphbR0&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTKEUZphbR0&feature=youtu.be)

https://youtube.com/devicesupport (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKY3scPIMd8#ws)

Jorge, please fix this if possible, everytime that I embed a video, this happens.

And a podcast: http://soundcloud.com/koji-igarashi-2/episode-1-embrace-your-mortality (http://soundcloud.com/koji-igarashi-2/episode-1-embrace-your-mortality)

Also it seems that maybe they plan to insert a hammer as weapon.

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/787/607/0d2707a0093ebe03b73d0f1b8ee82e3a_original.jpg?v=1431561546&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&q=92&s=2809e157bcc3b75322e00e1b0112c5ab)

(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/803/114/c12479cccc40efb4de8d76cbe5ac04cb_original.png?v=1431757890&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&lossless=true&s=ca9c5f42e2e346b420c58688b4b91af0)


(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/787/645/85915fe8b85adaf15e0c27edbcbeb191_original.png?v=1431562004&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&lossless=true&s=a8138b378a4ea4cf692eb8448eb969aa)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleToastM on May 16, 2015, 03:06:30 AM
Almost reaching $2.522,024 (already converted) from Yooka-Laylee, yippie!

I only see the US dollars version. I'm curious to how close they are to the DLC stretch goal.

I wonder what that DLC expansion will include.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 16, 2015, 03:59:55 AM
I only see the US dollars version. I'm curious to how close they are to the DLC stretch goal.

I wonder what that DLC expansion will include.

Yooka-Layle shows £, not $ so I converted from pounds to dollars. Bloodstained shows $ normally because it is already in dollars. DLC? You mean in Yooka-Laylee? If yes Im curious too, maybe extra stages?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 16, 2015, 04:50:22 AM
Jorge, please fix this if possible, everytime that I embed a video, this happens

When you embed the video, your web address you're entering has "https://" in it. Remove the "s", and the embed will work just fine.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 16, 2015, 05:37:50 AM
When you embed the video, your web address you're entering has "https://" in it. Remove the "s", and the embed will work just fine.

I know that lol
Also it is impossible to embed videos if you not remove the "s". This youtube video talking about unsupported device is the result of a correctly embedded video and that is the problem. I didn't remove the "s" on purpose, so people could watch it on youtube, otherwise it would be replaced by this... thing.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Claimh Solais on May 16, 2015, 06:28:19 AM
I know that lol
Also it is impossible to embed videos if you not remove the "s". This youtube video talking about unsupported device is the result of a correctly embedded video and that is the problem. I didn't remove the "s" on purpose, so people could watch it on youtube, otherwise it would be replaced by this... thing.

My mistake.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 16, 2015, 06:38:34 AM
My mistake.

That is okay, you are trying to help me after all, thanks.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Rugal on May 16, 2015, 01:15:57 PM
Just pledged $300. It feels GOOD.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 16, 2015, 04:56:35 PM
Yesss join us $300-tier bros!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: The Puritan on May 16, 2015, 05:01:13 PM
Sooo, gameplay videos? Y'know, to solidify the hype and all. Yeah.

Anytime now.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: KaZudra on May 16, 2015, 06:12:16 PM
Sooo, gameplay videos? Y'know, to solidify the hype and all. Yeah.

Anytime now.
So, you're saying, shown only concept material, you can expect gameplay videos in 96 hours of the kickstarter even starting.
You want at least 100+ sprites to be animated, 3 songs composed, at least 15 "rooms" modeled and textured, and a fuckton of programing done in 96 hours...
The game is too early in development, I would even say look out for a trailer at least after the kickstarter
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: The Most Curious Thing on May 16, 2015, 07:19:56 PM
Went back and read this old article (http://psp.gamespy.com/playstation-portable/castlevania-dracula-x-chronicles/772011p1.html) -- lots of interesting stuff in there that takes on a new context in light of Bloodstained.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 16, 2015, 07:36:25 PM
Not expecting any gameplay for awhile.

Maybe Halloween?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 16, 2015, 07:48:06 PM
Not expecting any gameplay for awhile.

Maybe Halloween?

I'm actually thinking TGS (Tokyo game show) which is in September.

Maybe a very brief glimpse just to thank the fans for the awesome kickstarter success and to appease their hype.

But I wouldn't expect to see much gameplay, maybe a minute or 2 tops.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 16, 2015, 08:05:28 PM
The TGS would be good for IGA. And also, it might nudge some more Japanese developers to try and pursue the indie route.
Plus, if IGA announces that Bloodstained would be there, then we might see some Japanese cosplays (I'm hoping more of the great ones, not the disturbing ones).

TGS has a designated area for indie games: http://expo.nikkeibp.co.jp/tgs/2015/exhibition/english/exhibit/indie_games.html (http://expo.nikkeibp.co.jp/tgs/2015/exhibition/english/exhibit/indie_games.html)
The deadline for applications is on May 29, IGA and his team have enough time to apply for a slot there.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 16, 2015, 08:32:24 PM
I hope IGA sets up his own company/studio after Bloodstained.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 16, 2015, 09:19:13 PM
I hope IGA sets up his own company/studio after Bloodstained.

IGA specifically mentioned in an interview that he just likes to make games and does not want to bother with the stress of setting up and running a company.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: JR on May 16, 2015, 10:02:07 PM

Are any of my $100+ homies here bad enough dudes to credit themselves under Clan Iron Flail, so we can represent?

Iron Flail 4 Lyfe

Haha, oh damn. I cleaned my computer today and now the Sword or Whip page is back to square one for me. I wanted to see what comes after you get the moon clock thing.  :'(
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 17, 2015, 12:53:45 AM
New remix, mixed with Rondo of Blood's Requiem (Menu Theme):
http://soundcloud.com/wellmanicuredman/skin-of-grisaille (http://soundcloud.com/wellmanicuredman/skin-of-grisaille)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 17, 2015, 01:04:15 AM
My sister's fanart of Miriam.
http://azirahl.deviantart.com/art/Bloodstained-533571231 (http://azirahl.deviantart.com/art/Bloodstained-533571231)

If you want to comment on her work, please proceed to her devart page.
She is just hoping that the Bloodstained team notices her.  :D

I think we need a fanart page for this game for all the remixes and artwork.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 17, 2015, 01:06:14 AM
Okey guys now its not long to reach 2,250,000 right now its 2,203,326.  Retro level will be unlocked today;)  We will aslo reacg classic mode soon I know;)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 17, 2015, 02:07:02 AM
Very nice fanart, Shiroi! Tell your sister to get a tumblr and submit it to iga-bloodstained.tumblr.com :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleToastM on May 17, 2015, 02:15:34 AM
Okey guys now its not long to reach 2,250,000 right now its 2,203,326.  Retro level will be unlocked today;)

I wonder how many days until Classic mode is unlocked.

I hope Classic mode is like SCV4 mode. I really love that game, spent many summers with it when I was younger.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 17, 2015, 02:27:59 AM
Very nice fanart, Shiroi! Tell your sister to get a tumblr and submit it to iga-bloodstained.tumblr.com :D

Beat me to that suggestion xD

How much time it took to draw it Shiroi? Your sister really deserves to be noticed, look at these details and all! ;D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 17, 2015, 03:48:51 AM
Very nice fanart, Shiroi! Tell your sister to get a tumblr and submit it to iga-bloodstained.tumblr.com :D

She has a tumblr account but she does not know how to submit. Help?


How much time it took to draw it Shiroi? Your sister really deserves to be noticed, look at these details and all! ;D

She started drawing yesterday then slept on it. Then did the finishing touches today while watching a crime series.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 17, 2015, 04:02:09 AM
http://iga-bloodstained.tumblr.com/submit (http://iga-bloodstained.tumblr.com/submit)

*nibles*
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 17, 2015, 12:16:27 PM
Thanks for that link i was just about to ask the same. My copy of The Goetia arrived and I plan on trying my hand at some pixel art depictions of the various demons.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dark Nemesis on May 17, 2015, 12:50:56 PM
2250000 have been reached!!!! One more goal left!!!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 17, 2015, 01:47:30 PM
2250000 have been reached!!!! One more goal left!!!

Yes! Yes! Then we enter the dungeon area of the castle.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 17, 2015, 02:07:43 PM
Woohooo! :D
Somehow, I reckon that they'll have to add more goals...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 17, 2015, 02:15:59 PM
Getting closer to that Classicvania...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 17, 2015, 02:27:12 PM
Just give it another two days, and I'm sure that we'll have it.  It'll be two games in one, essentially, and the best of both worlds.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 17, 2015, 02:35:33 PM
I need to back this and get a physical copy now that a Classicvania is in.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 17, 2015, 03:08:51 PM
I wonder where this is gonna end. What is realistic? 3 million? 3.5? It's hard to say... It's slowing down, as expected, but it could always speed up again in the final 48 hours or so. I am reeeeaaaally curious about any further stretch goals. A Vita version would make me so very happy, though it's unlikely it would get a physical version.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 17, 2015, 03:48:37 PM
I would say 4 million at the absolute maximum. It certainly is slowing down, though we do have many days left, more than 20, so that's good. Add in last-ditch additions and I see 3 million being all but certain, 3.5 if we're lucky, and 4 if we're very lucky.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 17, 2015, 04:32:11 PM
Made some pixel art of two Ars Goetia demons. I think I will do more this week!
(ps. This is my 1st time posting images so i hope it goes well...)

(click to show/hide)

and at 3X

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleToastM on May 17, 2015, 07:00:41 PM
I asked a question to IGA, using a button on the kickstarter a day or two ago, if a PS3 version is possible, even with stretch goals.

This was the response back:

Quote
Koji Igarashi says:

Hi there, sorry for the late reply. Unfortunately, technological limitations and a 2017 release date make this a challenge.

I can assume that a PS3 release is not going to happen.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 17, 2015, 07:42:53 PM
why is it hard to release the game on handhelds ? Nintendo consoles ? or last gen consoles the answer is : Unreal Engine 4

let them craft the best looking game as much as possible I've had enough playing LQ side scrolling games, also look at Mighty no.9 the game graphics looks nothing special because it's getting ported on every console so they had to use a weaker engine to make it work on lower end devices which is meh :/
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 17, 2015, 09:49:22 PM
$2.25mil! I don't need to start that emo band now, woo! Oh man guys, I'm way too hyped for this. On the plus side I found my PoR collector's edition stuff while unpacking so...yeah, MOAR HYPE!

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUJmQriL.gif&hash=e10e726ebc2fd049bc1b128c54108a0e)

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 17, 2015, 11:42:46 PM
Ugh, no PS3 release. That sucks hard. Makes me rethink if I'll pledge.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 18, 2015, 12:24:15 AM
Bloodstained's Kickstarter just hit $2.25 million, which means the Retro Level has been unlocked! Next up: Classic Mode and the Basement Key

Source: https://twitter.com/swordorwhip
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 18, 2015, 07:12:34 AM
As someone who doesn't have a PS4 or Xbone and would probably need a GPU upgrade to run it on PC, I've still gotta say that given the 2017 release date, they're probably better off not porting to PS3 and 360. By 2017 very few games will be releasing on these systems, not to mention that they'd have to rebuild the game in Unreal 3 to do it I think. It'd probably cost them more than they'd stand to make on the platforms.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 18, 2015, 07:30:58 AM
and would probably need a GPU upgrade to run it on PC

I don't think this game is going to be THAT demanding, all things considered.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: shelverton. on May 18, 2015, 09:23:26 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: If you are a console gamer, save up for a PS4 (Or Xbone if that's your thing.). You have two whole years. TWO. YEARS. It's unreasonable to expect the PS3 to be relevant in 2017. Also, in two years time the PS4/Xbone will be much cheaper than it is now. Also, there will be more to play on them by then (if people don't want one right now because of lack of games). And if all else fails (and you have pledged $60 for a physical copy and STILL haven't bought a new console by 2017) you can always sell the game when that day comes.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 18, 2015, 09:32:09 AM
I've said it before and I'll say it again: If you are a console gamer, save up for a PS4 (Or Xbone if that's your thing.). You have two whole years. TWO. YEARS. It's unreasonable to expect the PS3 to be relevant in 2017. Also, in two years time the PS4/Xbone will be much cheaper than it is now. Also, there will be more to play on them by then (if people don't want one right now because of lack of games). And if all else fails (and you have pledged $60 for a physical copy and STILL haven't bought a new console by 2017) you can always sell the game when that day comes.

That's what I'm deciding to do.  What with Shadow of Mordor being really laggy on the PS3, The Witcher 3, and this, I think that I'm just going to try and save for a PS4.  Heck, I bought my PS3 for LoS and Assasin's Creed 2.

I've worked out that I can afford to pledge $100.  Pledge has been made. 

Quick question regarding the KS (having never made a pledge before).  When signing up, does it matter if your account name doesn't match your real name?  I want my Forum username as my name in the credits. 
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Strider Nemesis on May 18, 2015, 10:42:55 AM
I would say 4 million at the absolute maximum. It certainly is slowing down, though we do have many days left, more than 20, so that's good. Add in last-ditch additions and I see 3 million being all but certain, 3.5 if we're lucky, and 4 if we're very lucky.

Also, don't forget that they haven't posted how much people have pledged through PayPal. That should be at around $100k right now judging by Mighty No. 9 numbers.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 18, 2015, 11:03:07 AM
by 2017 the x360 & ps3 will be obsolete but ppl still want ports of CURRENT gen games on last gen hardware? come on son

its like when ps3 was still widely used but i was still hearing about ppl only owning a ps2 and gamecube. i bet some of yous still only have a ps2 and nothing else. its like using a 56k dial up modem in 2015. its like asking if avengers will see a VHS tape release. its like still using ur first email DragonLordXx27@aol.com for resumes. its like still using a flip phone when everything nowadays is touch screen. come on son
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 18, 2015, 11:20:44 AM
I don't know why people are freaking about performance issues. This isn't Crysis or some cutting-edge 3D game. I doubt it'll be any more demanding than Guacamelee.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: knightmere on May 18, 2015, 12:23:50 PM
I imagine I'll probably have a PS4 by 2017.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 18, 2015, 12:35:02 PM
Quick question regarding the KS (having never made a pledge before).  When signing up, does it matter if your account name doesn't match your real name?  I want my Forum username as my name in the credits.

They will contact you via e-mail asking all this kind of info (which name show in credits, for which platform you want the game copy, etc.) AFAIK.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 18, 2015, 12:58:29 PM
I don't know why people are freaking about performance issues. This isn't Crysis or some cutting-edge 3D game. I doubt it'll be any more demanding than Guacamelee.

Hah this is AMAZING. I have always wanted a non-handheld Igavania; the DS ones were great but I really wanted to see that idea done on a much bigger SCALE. With high production values. Nobody needs to worry, this game will be out in 2+ years, and if anything I think Iga would put money into making as many different art styles and assets as he can vs. making something really flashy and samey-looking.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 18, 2015, 01:16:22 PM
Thanks, Lelygax!  :)  What I figured, but wanted to double check. 
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 18, 2015, 02:56:03 PM
I don't think this game is going to be THAT demanding, all things considered.

There was a 2.5D game released this year that my PC ran at a silky smooth 24 fps so I'm still betting I'll need a GPU upgrade. Okay okay, it was 30 fps like 75% of the time but there were drops, sometimes to 24 and it was disgusting.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 18, 2015, 05:26:51 PM
A top of the line graphics card today will be super cheap in two years' time.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Rugal on May 18, 2015, 05:52:26 PM
Gonna hit that final stretch goal by tomorrow night I bet!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Maedhros on May 18, 2015, 06:01:42 PM
I don't know why people are freaking about performance issues. This isn't Crysis or some cutting-edge 3D game. I doubt it'll be any more demanding than Guacamelee.
It just depends on how much they push the engine, really. There could be all types of crazy effects and lightning in the game.

We'll have to wait...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 18, 2015, 06:19:33 PM
Well, I guess that's true.

Gonna hit that final stretch goal by tomorrow night I bet!

Yeah, I was honestly not expecting us to be within range of classic mode so quickly. Also the latest update mentioned everybody $60 and above will have beta access for the pc version, so that'll be cool.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 18, 2015, 06:46:33 PM
Well, I guess that's true.

Yeah, I was honestly not expecting us to be within range of classic mode so quickly. Also the latest update mentioned everybody $60 and above will have beta access for the pc version, so that'll be cool.

Really? That's going to be something and if that's true who would want to watch or do a live-stream of that or a quick lp when the time comes? When I saw the live twitch of bloodstained I thought it was really cool and maybe we should do that one day as a dungeon community thing.   :)

edit : as of right now the KS is at 2,357,526.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but did it surpass mighty no.9 initially? I don't recall might no.9 gaining traction that fast did it? It's only been about less than a week and it's already at half what MN.9 is.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleDan on May 18, 2015, 10:32:14 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4BHVjRZ.png&hash=03aee3646e0eced6127419736f975edc)

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Notice how the new concept art matches the old teaser pic on the left. So I imagine the one on the right is still in play.

And the rest of the new concept art:
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Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 18, 2015, 10:42:41 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F4BHVjRZ.png&hash=03aee3646e0eced6127419736f975edc)

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Notice how the new concept art matches the old teaser pic on the left. So I imagine the one on the right is still in play.

And the rest of the new concept art:
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmSC9bld.png&hash=1b5922ed8ccf3fd7a2aa145d42ec20b8)
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   I really hope that picture is game screens plzzzzzz but source for new pictures you share?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleDan on May 18, 2015, 10:46:26 PM
It's from the update on the kickstarter. More art comes wednesday.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 18, 2015, 10:52:50 PM
(click to show/hide)

Notice how the new concept art matches the old teaser pic on the left. So I imagine the one on the right is still in play.

Okay, Im can be hallucinating here, but since they still calls this new castle Akumajou and there is a japanese shrine thing, what if this is indeed THE Akumajou? Maybe it happens years later in the same universe and this is indeed Dracula's Castle, but without Dracula. Think about it people, IGA didn't waited for a eclipse, but waited for a full moon before announcing this game.

Also Gebel isn't going to create a castle, he will summon one, right? Before someone come and says "so if its in the future, where are the lazer gunz and shit lulz?" remember that Getsu Fuuma happens even more in the future and he wears a samurai armor and a katana.


About the KS, I've wrote down how much they pledged in almost 27 hours (I wanted to count 24 hours but I forgot and remembered only now to check). 1322 pledged 97k in total. If we agree that people are pledging more or less 90k in 24 hours and interest is decreasing, if things continues as now with a peak of interest at the end, I think that this KS will end with 4,2kk more or less.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleDan on May 18, 2015, 11:05:07 PM
They said it takes place in the 18th century
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 18, 2015, 11:53:24 PM
Sh*t! Forgot about that.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 19, 2015, 01:57:01 AM
It's from the update on the kickstarter. More art comes wednesday.

Please post more when it appears.

I see a Japanese shrine. Hehehe IGA's really making Akumajou truly an amalgamation of random stuff.

And for all those who are worrying on whether they can play the game or not in 2 years time, remember, tech becomes cheaper as time goes by.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 19, 2015, 05:37:49 AM
Why I'm waiting, and saving up, Shiroi! :)

I sent Iga a message of support for teh game, and I got this reply:

Koji Igarashi says:

IGA here. Thank you for your support! I'm so glad to finally focus our efforts on creating the game. I’ll do my best to live up to your expectations. -IGA
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleDan on May 19, 2015, 09:06:08 AM
Weird how there's new concept art and yet no one is posting. lol
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Strider Nemesis on May 19, 2015, 11:28:23 AM
By the way their achievement game is failing, surely they have realized by now that we, the target demographic of this game, prefer to just give our cash instead of wasting our time (since most of us are working adults, and even parents) completing their social network tasks and creating fuzz. We're running out of achievements again, but the cash is still pouring. Also, no way in hell the Twitter account will reach 40k followers; they went too high. The high number of $60 and $100 pledges (which surpass the $28 ones when summed) indicates that we are not a cheap demographic, and are more than willing to treat this as a luxury and pay even more than MSRP for it.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 19, 2015, 12:39:21 PM
Well, we're within a $100K of the Classic mode goal, having reached the $2,404,970 mark now.  Easily reachable.  We're about £110K behind Yooka-Laylee's pledged money atm.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 19, 2015, 01:28:55 PM
What's up with the torii? I wonder if aside from the Ars Goetia demons there are going to put in deities from the Shinto pantheon?   
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 19, 2015, 03:09:54 PM
oh man, watching this "devs play" of sotn is soo cringeworthy

i luv the info IGA-san is giving & all the stuph i didnt know about (such as the beetles & grasshoppers on the trees in the intro) but the woman that's playing is just bad, like noobie bad. shes missing several rooms & even ignores IGA's advice here n there. theres so many things i wanna know iga's perspective on but she keeps skipping right over them, ugh

i wish Nagumo or Shiroi Koumori were playing instead
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 19, 2015, 03:57:31 PM
I've been making more pixel art based on the Ars Goetia and would like to share them. Can I post them in this thread or should I do that elsewhere?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 19, 2015, 08:47:18 PM
This thread should be fine, though you can also post them in the Spriteworks thread. Be sure to go to iga-bloodstained/submit though so we get more rewards :D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 19, 2015, 10:23:46 PM
oh man, watching this "devs play" of sotn is soo cringeworthy

i luv the info IGA-san is giving & all the stuph i didnt know about (such as the beetles & grasshoppers on the trees in the intro) but the woman that's playing is just bad, like noobie bad. shes missing several rooms & even ignores IGA's advice here n there. theres so many things i wanna know iga's perspective on but she keeps skipping right over them, ugh

i wish Nagumo or Shiroi Koumori were playing instead

Glad to know I'm not the only one who was cringing.
If I were there, I'd rather straight up interview IGA and replace the translator guy. He missed some parts of IGA's answers, not that they are important but that's what you get when you're translating on the fly. It would be nicer if they just kept IGA's answers subbed, although I feel bad for the girl who played for not understanding a thing.
When I played, I thought I sucked, oh but I didn't die on my playthroughs since I know the virtue of saving often and I know some of the magic commands by heart hehehe. I think Nagumo is a better player than me.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 19, 2015, 11:44:58 PM
oh man, watching this "devs play" of sotn is soo cringeworthy

Glad to know I'm not the only one who was cringing.
If I were there, I'd rather straight up interview IGA and replace the translator guy. He missed some parts of IGA's answers, not that they are important but that's what you get when you're translating on the fly. It would be nicer if they just kept IGA's answers subbed, although I feel bad for the girl who played for not understanding a thing.

you will cringe even more when you remember that this guy translating is IGA personal agent, so he does it constantly while IGA doesnt even notice this detail.

Also the people on this show should proof check what they write, they've written wrong IGA name and a lot of other things in this video.

edit: I know that we are simple mortals and all but... There is a way to make these people from marketing or something like that begin to work again? Man! They started this campaign with a viral site and all, but then stopped caring.

I don't like to compare, but give a look at Mighty No. 9 campaign. They updated the KS pretty fast and tried to entertain us all the time with new sneak peaks and things like that. If I noticed right, they did even less money today :-\

Maybe they have a great surprise for today since they closed the swordorwhip website and will reveal which was the real meaning of this poll game?

Sorry for this rant, but in a brief, at the first days I was more hyped than these last days while this doesnt happened with Mighty No. 9 until they closed the KS campaign, so Im worried that its lacking something... Hau auu~
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: VladCT on May 20, 2015, 07:33:23 AM
You may have noticed that someone submitted a JoJo reference to the tumblr. That someone was none other than Serio. lol
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 20, 2015, 08:24:52 AM
Serio-sama!!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 20, 2015, 10:55:41 AM
I wondered what ever happened to that lolita-loving jabroni. He was the most kawaii, even if he ran from that destiny. Anyways the new update includes some more concept art. Getting some OoE vibes from that image of the castle.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 20, 2015, 11:33:44 AM
I must be crazy but I thought the new update would state who won sword or whip?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 20, 2015, 12:08:02 PM
Maybe we'll get the sword whip from Aria. I mean they did put some guy's tweet there at the end suggesting the same thing.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: affinity on May 20, 2015, 01:25:37 PM
update, more in depth discussions going on

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1044304&page=118 (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1044304&page=118)

Quote
Do you honestly think Igarashi is a scumbag con artist, or is untrustworthy with money? He was making these ANNUALLY. And they were ALL BELOVED. He made a cool multiplayer online loot grind version of this game for like $15k total. He's proven he's good with a budget before, and is good at this kind of game. So what if a bad person will do a bad thing with a service? What bearing does that have on Bloodstained? He's been completely upfront with us from day one.

http://40.media.tumblr.com/684eb75413b635b8e3a3c6c2c281988d/tumblr_nom6sdw53V1uumf1jo1_1280.png (http://40.media.tumblr.com/684eb75413b635b8e3a3c6c2c281988d/tumblr_nom6sdw53V1uumf1jo1_1280.png)


the CASTLE is either small or super massive!!


http://40.media.tumblr.com/4906d7c5a4854bcdd867165fc282700f/tumblr_nons9nypGi1uumf1jo1_1280.png (http://40.media.tumblr.com/4906d7c5a4854bcdd867165fc282700f/tumblr_nons9nypGi1uumf1jo1_1280.png)

hard to say, since there is not even a tree to compare its size.  but think its massive. looks like it.   ;D

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 20, 2015, 01:27:33 PM
New update guys now number 6: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iga/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night/posts/1237015 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iga/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night/posts/1237015)

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW...

(For what it's worth: That final image is known, around the campaign, as "That castle picture, you know, the really awesome one.")   
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Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 20, 2015, 01:50:25 PM
Looks like there are some sub-castles or something, in front and behind the main one.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 20, 2015, 02:42:27 PM
That castle art is effin gorgeous.
Looks like there are some sub-castles or something, in front and behind the main one.
What if this is just one of many castles, and we're in for a Belmont's Revenge scenario?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 20, 2015, 04:04:58 PM
(For what it's worth: That final image is known, around the campaign, as "That castle picture, you know, the really awesome one.")   
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Much as I love Kojima's work....this is looking like a mighty fine substitute.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 20, 2015, 05:41:21 PM
dont get me wrong this artwork is great, but the artists that did Lords of Shadow 2 were on a whole other level

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the artwork for bloodstained better be as good if not better than this
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 20, 2015, 06:43:29 PM
Mercury Steam's art was the best thing about the LoS series. I don't expect Bloodstained to look as gorgeous, but that isn't an issue for me because I think the concept art they've released looks phenomenal for what it is.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: uzo on May 20, 2015, 07:20:06 PM
GET THAT LOS SHIT OUT OF HERE

THIS IS BLOODSTAINED IGAVANIA BABY
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 20, 2015, 07:38:37 PM
Yea to bad LOS2 wasn't as good as its artwork.

The game could have been much better if they had put the entire focus on the castle which was gorgeous but noooo,, they had to go with a modern city that really did not fit IMO.

And then those lame stealth sections killed the pace of the game whenever they popped up, not to mention the fact that according to this game those Hell Guards>>>>>Satan himself since they are still able to pwn you even after you regain all your powers.

But I digress, this topic is about the bombasticness that is Bloodstained, but since LOS was brought up (even though it was only artwork) I just felt the need to vent a bit.

Anway, really looking forward to the classic mode for Bloodstained!

I'm more interested in how they are going to handle this within a metroidvania game.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 20, 2015, 07:49:17 PM
The Los2 art ....


(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Foriginal%2F000%2F003%2F617%2Fokayguy.jpg&hash=1fa773a90b00085dac3034341729eef0)

Why did it end that way... the sorrow...

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 20, 2015, 08:10:34 PM
/me hugz NeoBelmont

Anyways, who did the LoS art? That is some pretty good artwork, in all honesty. =o
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 20, 2015, 09:30:19 PM
Quote
$275,000
IGA's Biggest Castle

The real stretch goals start here.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 20, 2015, 09:30:51 PM
The Los2 art ....


(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fentries%2Ficons%2Foriginal%2F000%2F003%2F617%2Fokayguy.jpg&hash=1fa773a90b00085dac3034341729eef0)

Why did it end that way... the sorrow...
It really is a massive shame how things played out.

If that art direction was put toward a true Castlevania game...man, it would be one pretty game. I really should pick up that art book one of these days.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 20, 2015, 09:34:14 PM
:o Excite!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 20, 2015, 09:36:56 PM
Oh man we are very close to Classicvania mode. Hyyyyype.

Guessing and hoping that last stretch goal after IGA's biggest Castle is a WiiU port.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 20, 2015, 09:40:44 PM
I'm not sure about a Wii U port...it's doable, but it might be expensive even with all the extra money, since Unreal Engine doesn't work well with the Wii, IIRC. They might be better served to spend the money on other things. ;_;
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 20, 2015, 09:46:15 PM
From the backer email, with the current pledges + paypal pledges we're at $2.5 mil! Classic mode, super get!

/cue Simon's Theme (https://youtu.be/AKVmvVRXXCM)

I'm really excited for these dungeon stretch goals. Do you think they're designed to pander to us dungeonites?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Captain Sheepy on May 20, 2015, 10:12:13 PM
Hey guys, just curious but with the #IGAVANIA Stream poll that Neobelmont and I posted, we are trying to bring the community of the Castlevania Dungeon together for fun times on whatever you guys vote which game we should play to support Bloodstained. But imagine if we somehow got Igarashi involved in the chat room. Course, that might not happen be a long shot since he must be pretty busy now but just imagine it....yeah, probably a fantasy we wish could come true.

But otherwise, hype hype hype for that classic mode. Harmony of Dissonance is right now in the lead and Neobelmont is gonna kick some butt, and me...I'll probably be somewhere there behind.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 20, 2015, 10:18:07 PM
Hey guys, just curious but with the stream poll that Neobelmont and I posted. We are trying to bring the community of the Castlevania Dungeon together for fun times on whatever you guys vote which game we should play. But imagine if we somehow got Igarashi involved in the chat room. Course, that might not happen be a long shot since he must be pretty busy now but just imagine it....yeah, probably a fantasy we wish could come true.

But otherwise, hype hype hype for that classic mode. Harmony of Dissonance is right now in the lead and Neobelmont is gonna kick some butt, and me...I'll probably be somewhere there behind.

We just want more opinions that's all.  :)

 Anyway classic mode is here  :D

And truthfully does anyone think this can reach the 3 million goal in time? It's slowed down abit.

Also I have a question is virt the same person that did shovel knight? Jake kaufman?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 20, 2015, 10:21:35 PM
AAAAAY WE GOT A CLASSICVANIA

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Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 20, 2015, 10:23:05 PM
AAAAAY WE GOT A CLASSICVANIA

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Dang it OSM my eyes to many Christophers x-x

It really is a massive shame how things played out.

If that art direction was put toward a true Castlevania game...man, it would be one pretty game. I really should pick up that art book one of these days.

Also if you get the book one day tell me how it is and if it's worth it.
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Post by: Captain Sheepy on May 20, 2015, 10:23:37 PM
We just want more opinions that's all.  :)

 Anyway classic mode is here  :D

And truthfully does anyone think this can reach the 3 million goal in time? It's slowed down abit.

Also I have a question is virt the same person that did shovel knight? Jake kaufman?
I believe it can be reached. It has to >,<. I would love having a Igavania on Wii U, it'd be mega awesome.
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 20, 2015, 10:25:51 PM
My mind is having trouble wrapping around the fact that in Less than a week or so that it's reached this much then it slows down.

It's good, but crazy and what more can possibly happen if it goes over 3mil?
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Post by: Dremn on May 20, 2015, 10:30:21 PM
This castle is going to be massive, pretty sure that last stretch goal is attainable at this point.

I'm really, really hoping this isn't another Mighty No. 9 in the making. I trust IGA WAY more than Inafune, but this still has the happenings to go wrong.

I said I wouldn't back this until I saw gameplay, but then IGA promises a Classicvania and that just ruined my tenure lol
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Post by: Neobelmont on May 20, 2015, 10:33:30 PM
This castle is going to be massive, pretty sure that last stretch goal is attainable at this point.

I'm really, really hoping this isn't another Mighty No. 9 in the making. I trust IGA WAY more than Inafune, but this still has the happenings to go wrong.

I said I wouldn't back this until I saw gameplay, but then IGA promises a Classicvania and that just ruined my tenure lol

Don't remind me off MN.9. the "chaos" in the forums turned me off and way too many things happened that I stopped before I could even start and then when I went back there it did not feel welcoming to me. I got out before things got super, super ugly.

Also OSM or anyone. people have been saying MN.9 looks bad or something could someone explain as to why?
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Post by: Dremn on May 20, 2015, 10:43:30 PM
Also OSM or anyone. people have been saying MN.9 looks bad or something could someone explain as to why?
Gameplay and level design leaves much to be desired, and the Zero DLC/whatever left a bad taste in my mouth.

There's an entire level that's practically a hallway with a couple jumps. Even earlier Mega Man games had more creative/interesting level design than that.
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Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 20, 2015, 10:55:01 PM
Shovel Knight music was killer virt will be a good composer to have on board.
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Post by: Captain Sheepy on May 21, 2015, 12:24:22 AM
Hey so, let's talk special moves guys. What kind of special moves do you think will appear in the game possibly? Neobelmont already knows what I'm hoping for X3. Well, two things if he really guesses aside from one that Richter has. The other is my top fav (and probably might never appear.)
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Post by: shelverton. on May 21, 2015, 01:22:07 AM
I haven't backed this yet, but I 100% will. Hopefully there are quite a few people who are also holding off just a liiiiittle bit longer, so we can reach that $3 million. I'm expecting things to speed up again in the final 48 hours.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Captain Sheepy on May 21, 2015, 01:34:50 AM
I haven't backed this yet, but I 100% will. Hopefully there are quite a few people who are also holding off just a liiiiittle bit longer, so we can reach that $3 million. I'm expecting things to speed up again in the final 48 hours.

Just gotta raise some money on the side toward this game when I am able to so I can get it.
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Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 21, 2015, 01:41:02 AM
Can someone contact Igavania/Bloodstained and ask if the Dungeon members can get a special clan?

Oh my gosh 22 days to go... My Gebel cross stitch is still not yet 1/4 done....
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Post by: shelverton. on May 21, 2015, 02:35:50 AM

Oh my gosh 22 days to go... My Gebel cross stitch is still not yet 1/4 done....

You are officially my favorite person of the day. Cross stitch ftw! I have only ever attempted very simple 8-bit sprites, which look very cool and all, but one day I'm gonna try to make something more complicated!

I am really impressed by this kickstarter so far. From a pure marketing perspective, and how they really involve/engage the backers by encouraging us to create all sorts of great stuff, this is how you do a campaign in the days of the internetz! The big companies should take notice.
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Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 21, 2015, 02:42:44 AM
Can someone contact Igavania/Bloodstained and ask if the Dungeon members can get a special clan?

Oh my gosh 22 days to go... My Gebel cross stitch is still not yet 1/4 done....

I sent them a private message giving my support, and Iga did reply, so yeah, it's easy to do that, or, alternatively, just leave a comment on the KS main page.  :)  That would actually be pretty awesome to have.

Go, Shiroi, go!  You can do this, you can get Gebel done!  :D  *Pulls out a pair of black and gold cheer-leading pom-poms*


Dang it OSM my eyes to many Christophers x-x

Also if you get the book one day tell me how it is and if it's worth it.

The artbook is gorgeous, and it does explain a couple of small details of the plot.  It's not a huge book in terms of thickness, and I'd have loved more than just a few pages devoted to the character designs for Gabriel, Alucard, and Trevor, but that said, it is still very pretty, and worth picking up.  I have both the signed limited edition version and the regular version.  The art and the music were definitely LoS2's greatest strengths.  The castle sections were almost like a different game compared to the lack-lustre modern city, I'd have loved a whole game set in *that* castle.  It felt like the creativity got stomped on somewhat.  :'(  *Ends rant*

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Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 21, 2015, 02:47:12 AM
You are officially my favorite person of the day. Cross stitch ftw! I have only ever attempted very simple 8-bit sprites, which look very cool and all, but one day I'm gonna try to make something more complicated!

Shiroi's Nocturne of Recollection cross stitch is gorgeous - she has piccies of it in the fanart thread.  I really look forward to stitching it as well at some point, when I finally manage to finish my beast of a SotN embroidery (9 years of working on it on and off now), which Shiroi's given me the motivation to start working on again (once I have a small project that I need to finish by July out of the way).
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Post by: CastleToastM on May 21, 2015, 02:57:31 AM
I just now caught up with this thread since my last post. I didn't notice anyone talking about the Beta access information that was included in the kickstarter email update #5

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We're happy to announce that all backers at $60 or above who choose PC copies of Bloodstained will be granted beta access via Steam. What does this mean for you?

    Get a chance to play early builds of the game.
    Help the development team squash bugs and make the best Igavania possible.
    See the game's development from a different perspective.
    Provide valuable feedback.

All $60+ digital and physical PC copies will be eligible for the beta, but the beta version will only run on Windows. It's definitely going to be the biggest group of beta testers IGA has ever worked with, but he and the team are looking forward to your help.

This means that if you pick to receive a PS4 or Xbone version of the game, you won't get Beta access.

If you choose the PC version, you could help shape how the game will eventually end up in a small way.

This pretty much cements my decision to pick the physical PC version of the game.
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Post by: Sindra on May 21, 2015, 04:22:26 AM
https://twitter.com/virtjk/status/595708872406540288

You fucking heard the man, people. MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!


Actually, FUCK IT, if this ends up being a real thing and not a hoax, I'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN.

YOU'RE ALL FUCKING WELCOME! =D
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Post by: Chernabogue on May 21, 2015, 04:24:45 AM
virt would rock on a CV-like soundtrack. Bloodstained's sound team is already excellent, but it'd be crazy to have him on board.
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Post by: shelverton. on May 21, 2015, 04:35:12 AM
So, from what I understand, the 8-bit music from Virt will be used in the classicvania mode (plus the 8-bit songs from Yamane and the other guy). These 8-bit tracks are all mini stretch goals. BUT! What would happen if we only unlock one or two of these mini stretch goals? It won't happen but what if? We're left with only one-two 8-bit tracks for the classicvania mode. I sometimes don't understand how these stretch goals work. By the look of things, we're getting them all, for sure. But still... WHAT IFFFF

Maybe they're going for a regular soundtrack for the classicvania mode, and these remixes are just a bonus and not the intended soundtrack for the actual levels.. Perhaps you'll be able to choose the music before you start playing?

Virt is so awesome btw.
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Post by: Kingshango on May 21, 2015, 04:38:59 AM
YOU'RE ALL FUCKING WELCOME! =D

This is exactly what I wanted! :D
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Post by: beingthehero on May 21, 2015, 04:40:40 AM
BUT! What would happen if we only unlock one or two of these mini stretch goals? It won't happen but what if? We're left with only one-two 8-bit tracks for the classicvania mode.

Then it'll be called "Circle of the Moon mode", and it'll be an 8-bit remix of Sinking Old Sanctuary playing for most of the areas.
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Post by: crisis on May 21, 2015, 06:59:19 AM
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This castle is going to be massive, pretty sure that last stretch goal is attainable at this point.

I'm really, really hoping this isn't another Mighty No. 9 in the making. I trust IGA WAY more than Inafune, but this still has the happenings to go wrong.

I said I wouldn't back this until I saw gameplay, but then IGA promises a Classicvania and that just ruined my tenure lol

as optimistic as every1 is, dont get ur hopes up too high. as i say once the dust settles and reality starts to kick in and people give it a playthru a few times, people will begin to pick this game apart as always. "this game was way too overhyped" mightwill be a common expressio, calling it now

i hope im wrong but cmon, iga never received this much praise during the gba/ds era and his gameplay/story decisions were being criticized left n right. sure he has way more development time this time, but i can still see people say "he had over a year to make this & this is what we get??" "theres still a severe lack of platforming, just like the other metrovanias" "too many useless items & magic, just like sotn" "the game is too derivative/not derivative enough" "i think i still like DXC more" "well at least it had good artwork & music" etc etc. this is inevitable

the fanbase is fickle, always has been and everyone is just super high rite now
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 21, 2015, 07:02:19 AM
Man, I'm just starting the realize that the scope of this game is going to be mind boggling. Not only is this potentially (I'm pretty sure it will be) the biggest castle IGA's ever designed/developed we're getting all of this awesome bonus content (http://partnercdn.fangamer.com/uploads/asset/9/bloodstained_desktop_wallpaper.png) on top of it. 2017 can't come soon enough guys. D: Guess I'll have to dust off my old CV games to occupy the time until then.
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Post by: shelverton. on May 21, 2015, 07:48:13 AM
As long as people keep their expectations on a reasonable level, I'm sure we'll be fine. This is just a video game. It will most likely have its flaws and imperfections, just like 99.9% of the video games that came before it.

And it's probably not gonna WOW you like the first time you played SotN. Not that it necessarily have to be worse than SotN - we don't know that yet - but it's going to be a metroidvania, and we've played soooo many of those since SotN came out. We know the deal already. Also, we're older now and less likely to be super impressed by things. I hope people realize this and don't expect GROUNDBREAKING INNOVATIVE NEWNESS!! But we never know with gamers today. Nothing is ever good enough for some of them.

Many of them are probably just desperately trying to recreate their own childhood but can't seem to hit that level of enthusiasm anymore. And it's fine and perfectly normal. Lower dat expectation, child!

I hear people saying Witcher 3 looks like "shit". Which only proves how unreasonable and impossible they are to please. Yes, it looks worse than it did in the trailer from 2013 but it's still a gorgeous game.

Some people will, without a doubt, hate on Bloodstained. It's just how things work. I'm lowering my expectations, not expecting "the best IGA game ever" cause that it not realistic. I hope it's on par with the GBA/DS games, but larger. And with some catchy tunes. Anything more than that is just a nice bonus  :D

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Post by: Chernabogue on May 21, 2015, 07:56:33 AM
^Agreed.

It may not be IGA's best game, but at least it'll be the one he wanted to make.
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 21, 2015, 08:13:57 AM
I'm pretty easy to please, I thought PoR was good (or at least I look back and remember enjoying it) and I know some here in the Dungeon were knocking on it. Beyond gameplay, which I'm giving IGA the benefit of the doubt and imagine it'll be high quality like all of his games, and music (which we know will rock) and graphics (which is kind of a moot point); I'm most looking forward to exploring this new world IGA is creating, learning its lore and story. Could I get dissapointed in this aspect? Probably, but I'm sure the rest of the game will make up for it.

If not? Well, that's what you guys are here for. :3
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Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 21, 2015, 08:55:32 AM
Haters gonna hate. People will likely tear it apart the way they tore apart POR and the DS one. People also tear apart kickstarters in general, often because they have no clue how many resources it takes to make a game, and have insane expectations.

This is going to make me sound like a grumpy old man but that is fine: Gamers on the whole these days are super entitled. When I was a kid being able to play a SNES game on another system was a far-off fantasy. The idea that I could have every game ever made at my fingertips is also something that only existed in my dreams. I hoped and prayed there would be another 2D Mario after SMW, and now we have people rolling their eyes at the most amazing CGI psychedelic 2D Marios ever. People are used to having it all and wanting more and whining about it endlessly if they don't get it. The power of the internet.

That being said, I think the true IGA fans will love this. I have my faults w some of the Igavanias but when I played them was totally sucked in and ABSOLUTELY IN LOVE with all of it. I could not understand why people didn't like the anime style. I could not understand why people didn't like Jonathan/Charlotte ("Charlotte is a waste of time just use Jonathan LOL"). Then again there were people upset that SOTN did not feature a burly man.

I don't understand those criticisms. I play these games and think "This is the kind of experience I don't get from other games". The attention to artwork, the variety in enemies (even if recycled, which will not be an issue now that he has to make everything from scratch), the music, the weird juxtapositions of steampunk elements, gothic horror, supernatural dark fantasy from around the world, etc. These games are unique and always true to themselves, and if Iga tries something new (like he tends to do each game to make it fresh) and falls on his face I will still probably be fine w that. At least he tried something new.

It is what separates these games from every other cookie-cutter shooter or RPG or action game out there.
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Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2015, 09:25:59 AM
Gamers being entitled these days was something motivated by the publishers.
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Post by: shelverton. on May 21, 2015, 10:07:25 AM
My only big problem with the sidescrolling igavanias was always that they ended too quickly. I wanted more! But guess what? That is part of why they worked so well IMO. They never overstayed their welcome, and they ended on a high note, when I was still wanting more.

It's interesting how this "flaw" was actually why I was so f**king PUMPED every time a new game was released. Cause I never got bored of them. There simply wasn't time for that. Even the recycled levels and graphics in PoR was easy to stomach when the game was reasonably short. Adding 10 hours would not have made it any favours whatsoever though.

Now that these games are far and few between I am ready for a longer game though, or at least bigger. Just lemme in those castle gates and I will explore all of it. I'm looking forward slashing at walls and ceilings, looking for secret rooms and areas. I hope that's what we're getting!
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Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 21, 2015, 10:30:58 AM
Let's not get too ahead of ourselves here. There's a distinction between "entitled" and wanting a quality product. Are you considered entitled when you order a steak and instead you're served lutefisk? When you buy a new car and it turns out to be a lemon (not the fruit)?

I think it's fair to criticize developers and publishers for shoddy products, without this feedback they don't know what areas require improvement. I loved Assassin's Creed when it came out, but it wasn't without it's faults. The media and gamers criticized Ubisoft for this and we got the absolutely amazing Assassin's Creed II in return. Were the media and gamers being entitled when they voiced their opinion on AC? I don't think so, but some may disagree.

When I start thinking of entitled gamers I think of those that whine, "Why isn't x feature there?/I don't like your artistic vision, change it!/etc."  This isn't criticism of the product, this is wanting the product to pander specifically to you and your tastes with no regard to the developer's artistic vision. These are the cries of entitlement, imo.
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Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 21, 2015, 11:03:19 AM
Ok otm. Also kind of sorry i used that word, hope it doesn't offend anyone directly, it's just I'm trying to pin down the change from "I would give ANYTHING to have a Super Mario World 3" to "Oh no another Mario game Nintendo never does anything new <eyeroll>" Not that anyone in this thread is making that argument but I feel like that's the kind of fundamental shift games have undergone.

I understand not wanting a bad product but looking at Igas track record, it's been pretty flawless. He probably also has everyone in the world right now suggesting ways for him to do his game, so maybe we shd sit back and check out what HE has in store.
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Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 21, 2015, 11:30:19 AM
be positive..that's all I'm gonna say
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Post by: crisis on May 21, 2015, 12:35:17 PM
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I understand not wanting a bad product but looking at Igas track record, it's been pretty flawless

journey back to the cv dungeon (not just here but at several other forums) around 2003-2007 and read peoples general opinions on iga during his tenure as cv producer & metroidvania. entirely different place than it is now lol

1 quote i distinctly remember from someone, right around the time poultry of ruin was revealed was, "...well, here we go again."

i just think its interesting how general opinion went from "ughh we need a break from iga already" to "IGA welcome back we missed youuuu!!!"
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Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 21, 2015, 01:00:21 PM


i just think its interesting how general opinion went from "ughh we need a break from iga already" to "IGA welcome back we missed youuuu!!!"

I know right?

I remember constantly having to defend IGA and his games when I first joined from people who where in love with the LOS reveal and constantly took dumps on IGA and his games at every turn.

Its weird seeing this board for the most part suddenly pro IGA all the sudden...
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Post by: Rugal on May 21, 2015, 01:09:02 PM
Are you surprised? After the shit heap what was Lords of Shadow, everything that has happened lately has been amazing.

Thing about it. IGA is no longer going to be restricted by Konami. The man can finally do what he wants and how he wants to do it. He's not getting some shitty budget this time. He has support from everyone, especially his fans. Just take a look at his team. Michiru Yamane, David Hayter, Jake Kaufman, etc.

Order of Ecclesia was an AMAZING game and IGA was able to make it as such with such a small budget. Now just imagine what he's capable of doing with Bloodstained? I can't even fathom how fucking brilliant it's going to be. The man has nothing but passion and love thrown into his games and most of the time has made it work.

You don't know what you haven until it's gone. This is the case with all these IGA haters suddenly jumping ships after experiencing travesties such as the Lords of Shadow series.
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Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 21, 2015, 01:12:50 PM
I have to admit I haven't used this forum for very long, and was more or less detached from videogames for most of 2000-2010 aside from retro emulators etc. I've never had an interest in 3D Vania but never gave the handheld titles a chance until only a year or two ago, and was blown away.

Let's stay positive, otm! It's kind of amazing this is happening right when Konami is kind of self-imploding, I'm sure that's a big reason for everyone suddenly into a new Igavania.
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Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 21, 2015, 01:15:05 PM
Btw I think some people (maybe not on this board but others) are getting confused with Classic mode and thinking it will be an entirely 8-bit game, it seems like the 8-bit level is a separate thing and classic mode will be re-arranging of 2.5D assets. Maybe I'm the confused one =)
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Post by: Nagumo on May 21, 2015, 01:19:24 PM
I think the critism of IGA during that time was mostly because of Metroidvania fatigue. And of course around 2009 Dave Cox was spreading stories to anyone who was naive enough to believe it that LoS was going to be totally like SCIV but in 3D for the real fans, and as someone already mentioned in this thread, launching a smear campaign against the Metroidvanias. Couple that with the fact that MoF was a very pathetic replacement to the previous handheld games, which are all gems in their own right, and Konami's currently salting the earth while retreating their way out of the console industry, I think I can understand why people here are welcoming IGA back with open arms.
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Post by: shelverton. on May 21, 2015, 01:29:03 PM
It's perfectly fine to be tired of something and then welcome it back when a whoppin 7 years have passed. People are like that.
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Post by: Dremn on May 21, 2015, 01:31:25 PM
And of course around 2009 Dave Cox was spreading stories to anyone who was naive enough to believe it that LoS was going to be totally like SCIV but in 3D for the real fans,
They got me bad with that. :(
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Post by: Intersection on May 21, 2015, 02:11:24 PM
I know right?

I remember constantly having to defend IGA and his games when I first joined from people who where in love with the LOS reveal and constantly took dumps on IGA and his games at every turn.

Its weird seeing this board for the most part suddenly pro IGA all the sudden...
I can second this. I joined the forums expecting to run into legions of IGA fans - instead, I was mostly greeted by 16-bit nostalgics and Lords of Shadow converts. But now everyone's realizing that IGA is probably the only person left who's still willing to create something akin to Castlevania, so our former producer is getting a fresh popularity bath. After all, four years of absence can do wonders.

Are you surprised? After the shit heap what was Lords of Shadow, everything that has happened lately has been amazing.
Lords of Shadow wasn't a shit heap by any stretch of the imagination: it was just being marketed as the wrong title in the wrong franchise. I'm still convinced that if Konami had chosen to publish Lords of Shadow on its own, the game would've been hailed a gorgeous tribute to Castlevania, and four years of poisonous bickering the CV community would never have happened.
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Post by: Somanyte on May 21, 2015, 02:23:25 PM
About the $3 million goal...

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Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 21, 2015, 02:29:04 PM
journey back to the cv dungeon (not just here but at several other forums) around 2003-2007 and read peoples general opinions on iga during his tenure as cv producer & metroidvania. entirely different place than it is now lol

1 quote i distinctly remember from someone, right around the time poultry of ruin was revealed was, "...well, here we go again."

i just think its interesting how general opinion went from "ughh we need a break from iga already" to "IGA welcome back we missed youuuu!!!"

I think perhaps many people didn't totally appreciate it until it was gone. For some, having a game of a specific type coming out almost yearly is a godsend and those people were fine with the volume of CVs coming out; for others it tended to make them want some time to breathe or more extreme variation than even PoR or OoE provided.
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Post by: Sir Nicko on May 21, 2015, 02:30:35 PM
About the $3 million goal...

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OHHHH man! I will be so ready to double-dip if true. Playing on the gamepad would definitely resonate with me, as I was first fell in love with CV with the portable entries (CotM to be exact!). I'm definitely willing to give more support if so!

BTW, I third the fact that I'm happy to see IGA getting some more love on these boards! It's good to be back indeed!

Nicko
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Post by: Dremn on May 21, 2015, 02:56:20 PM
About the $3 million goal...

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YOOOOOO
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Reinhart77 on May 21, 2015, 03:54:21 PM
i've seen concerns that if a Wii U version is done that the quality of the game on the other platforms might suffer in order that you can essentially get the same game on all platforms.  it seems they're not going to let that happen.  so we could end up with an inferior wii u version.  what are the chances they might end up making essentially a remixed game on the wii u instead?  kinda like when they made Dracula X on the Super Nintendo rather than a more direct port of Rondo of Blood, which I appreciated since it could stand on its own as a separate game instead of being constantly reminded how inferior it was. 

edit: on second thought, maybe the saturn port of symphony would be a more likely analogy.  they had to take out some stuff because of hardware limitations, but they added some stuff kinda to make up for it.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 21, 2015, 04:11:10 PM
I think the critism of IGA during that time was mostly because of Metroidvania fatigue. And of course around 2009 Dave Cox was spreading stories to anyone who was naive enough to believe it that LoS was going to be totally like SCIV but in 3D for the real fans, and as someone already mentioned in this thread, launching a smear campaign against the Metroidvanias. Couple that with the fact that MoF was a very pathetic replacement to the previous handheld games, which are all gems in their own right, and Konami's currently salting the earth while retreating their way out of the console industry, I think I can understand why people here are welcoming IGA back with open arms.

Yeah but we got ACCEPT CHANGE and that gif of gabe and patrick stewart shaking hands, with gabe labeled as TRUE CASTLEVANIA FANS and stewart as Mercury Steam. And I would never want to give that up, especially in given how the epic mature reboot for mature gamers turned out.

Another sign of how things have drastically changed around here? Rugal is getting upvoted again instead of downvoted.

I can second this. I joined the forums expecting to run into legions of IGA fans - instead, I was mostly greeted by 16-bit nostalgics and Lords of Shadow converts. But now everyone's realizing that IGA is probably the only person left who's still willing to create something akin to Castlevania, so our former producer is getting a fresh popularity bath. After all, four years of absence can do wonders.

To be fair this place was kinda worse from 2005-2007. People just pretty much lamented how Circle of the Moon was the last great Castlevania. Which is fine, but then there was this creepy meme of posting pictures of IGA and Yamane speaking Engrish to mock them. It's like, come on.

I kinda miss Blu Cheese and Redrum though, even though they'd have no fucking clue who I was.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2015, 04:20:45 PM
Quote from: Intersection
Lords of Shadow wasn't a shit heap by any stretch of the imagination: it was just being marketed as the wrong title in the wrong franchise. I'm still convinced that if Konami had chosen to publish Lords of Shadow on its own, the game would've been hailed a gorgeous tribute to Castlevania, and four years of poisonous bickering the CV community would never have happened.

i would say this is a fair assessment. witch is why los is better viewed as "castlevania: the movie"

but enuff of that. i am wonder what the future of bloodstained as a potential franchise is? is iga planning a trilogy, or will he pass it off to other developers in the longrun? how many of u are willing to stick around for 25+ years of bloodstained? ?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 21, 2015, 04:24:38 PM
Quote from: beingthehero
I kinda miss Blu Cheese and Redrum though, even though they'd have no fucking clue who I was.

haha i rmember them too. we r old man
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: theANdROId on May 21, 2015, 04:47:58 PM
Dang!  This thread (and the KS) are going places so quickly!  School needs to hurry and let out so I have more time to...well...waste! ;-P

Another Kickstarter question...if you donate, and later come across some more spare moolah...can you add to your donation and get a higher tier?  Can you "level up" in that sense?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 21, 2015, 04:55:26 PM
YOU'RE ALL FUCKING WELCOME! =D

For what?


Man, I'm just starting the realize that the scope of this game is going to be mind boggling. Not only is this potentially (I'm pretty sure it will be) the biggest castle IGA's ever designed/developed we're getting all of this awesome bonus content (http://partnercdn.fangamer.com/uploads/asset/9/bloodstained_desktop_wallpaper.png) on top of it. 2017 can't come soon enough guys. D: Guess I'll have to dust off my old CV games to occupy the time until then.

That is nothing new, older CV also did have official wallpapers, but yes it still good.


Some people will, without a doubt, hate on Bloodstained. It's just how things work. I'm lowering my expectations, not expecting "the best IGA game ever" cause that it not realistic. I hope it's on par with the GBA/DS games, but larger. And with some catchy tunes. Anything more than that is just a nice bonus  :D

Maybe it will feature a inverted castle, a mirrored castle AND a 90º castle LOL


kinda like when they made Dracula X on the Super Nintendo rather than a more direct port of Rondo of Blood...

edit: on second thought, maybe the saturn port of symphony would be a more likely analogy.  they had to take out some stuff because of hardware limitations, but they added some stuff kinda to make up for it.

You were right before the edit, since the Saturn version wasn't bad because of hardware limitation but lazyness from the team/lack of time. Maybe they will use this extra money to do similar shaders to Unreal Engine older version?


Another sign of how things have drastically changed around here? Rugal is getting upvoted again instead of downvoted.

People downvoted before because they had been brainwashed by Dave Cox, now that we found a Holy Glasses we've saved some users here. I've never downvoted him until now since I find his posts to be fun and a straight opinion.

but enuff of that. i am wonder what the future of bloodstained as a potential franchise is? is iga planning a trilogy, or will he pass it off to other developers in the longrun? how many of u are willing to stick around for 25+ years of bloodstained? ?

IIRC he said in a interview to a website, that he wanted to do a new game where they could recycle assets in the future, so I think that he plans atleast 1 sequel.


Dang!  This thread (and the KS) are going places so quickly!  School needs to hurry and let out so I have more time to...well...waste! ;-P

Another Kickstarter question...if you donate, and later come across some more spare moolah...can you add to your donation and get a higher tier?  Can you "level up" in that sense?

Yes.


I'm really curious to know what they have in the basement. The hints that they gave us implied that the Wii U or Nintendo 3DS would be there, since they said about a Nintendo platform and a secret being hidden in the basement.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 21, 2015, 05:22:20 PM
IIRC he said in a interview to a website, that he wanted to do a new game where they could recycle assets in the future, so I think that he plans atleast 1 sequel.

No, please not more recycling...
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Maedhros on May 21, 2015, 06:05:43 PM
Every game from long franchises reuses assets at some point.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 21, 2015, 06:22:37 PM
Quote from: IGA on Polygon
..."I understand people’s desire to own a company and make it their own thing," he says. "It’s very easy to understand that sort of ambition that naturally occurs. But I just want to make games. Building a company from the ground up is incredibly difficult. Management, hiring — it’s just a huge amount of work."

Instead, Igarashi says he wants to turn his Kickstarter game into a franchise that will allow him to collaborate with external developers, iterate on it, reuse art assets and make sequels.[/u] Basically, he wants to turn it into a new Castlevania.

"This sort of a game is one that, as you build out multiple iterations of it and make sequels, then it naturally gets better and better and more crafted and more polished," he says. "So from my perspective, I’d like to make future versions of it. Because with each version, it should hopefully become a better and better game."...

Source: http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/5/11/8576141/koji-igarashi-day-in-the-life (http://www.polygon.com/features/2015/5/11/8576141/koji-igarashi-day-in-the-life)

Nothing wrong with that. If you are going to use the same enemy and the art is at the same level than the rest of the game then it is totally okay to reuse it. In Castlevania they only recycled enemies and bosses and they never clashed with a background, character or enemy, so I don't understand why people criticize this detail so much.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Sindra on May 21, 2015, 07:35:29 PM
I kinda miss Blu Cheese and Redrum though, even though they'd have no fucking clue who I was.

Who the hell is Blu Cheese? I started here around 2002-03 and that name rings no bells.

Lelygax: Virt and I had been joking a bit on Twitter when he said he'd love someone to start a petition to get him into Bloodstained, and I said I'd totally do that. I poked @SwordorWhip about it. One week later...and we got us Virt on the stretch goals.

Coincidence? I THINK NOT!!! But probably
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: riverman on May 21, 2015, 07:49:02 PM
What happend to redrum? Remember his rom hacks!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 21, 2015, 07:56:14 PM
Who the hell is Blu Cheese? I started here around 2002-03 and that name rings no bells.

http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1914 (http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1914)

Next you'll forget Ralph and Bloodreign. :(

...I miss Bloodreign.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 21, 2015, 08:03:29 PM
Well, maybe its a coincidence... maybe not... :rollseyes:
Atleast you didn't go overboard like Operation Akumajo did. If you said something to @SwordorWhip I think that you surely helped atleast a bit at them noticing him.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: JohnSnow73 on May 21, 2015, 09:26:45 PM
after absent for 10 years finally back i backed IGA with my money
but i do Hate Ippo Yamada.
His music is electric techno kind of music which
i do not like and his music is total crap. Please let us ask iga to trow him out.
Second the main character looks like a japanese pop idol.
And that dress is pure and simple chosen because it does not need animation so is that short hair.

I do hate inti creates concept art
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 21, 2015, 11:34:16 PM
And that dress is pure and simple chosen because it does not need animation so is that short hair.

The animation is going to be on her stained-glass legs I think.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 21, 2015, 11:42:12 PM
Some Goetia-inspired sprite art. I'm still trying different resolutions. This is the first pixel art I've done in a long time so go easy on me =)

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Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 21, 2015, 11:46:55 PM
Can be interesting for some people. Its Mega64 commenting about their 8 hour livestream with IGA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p2RH4DU1rU&feature=youtu.be&t=21m25s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5p2RH4DU1rU&feature=youtu.be&t=21m25s)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: JR on May 21, 2015, 11:56:12 PM
as optimistic as every1 is, dont get ur hopes up too high. as i say once the dust settles and reality starts to kick in and people give it a playthru a few times, people will begin to pick this game apart as always. "this game was way too overhyped" mightwill be a common expressio, calling it now

i hope im wrong but cmon, iga never received this much praise during the gba/ds era and his gameplay/story decisions were being criticized left n right. sure he has way more development time this time, but i can still see people say "he had over a year to make this & this is what we get??" "theres still a severe lack of platforming, just like the other metrovanias" "too many useless items & magic, just like sotn" "the game is too derivative/not derivative enough" "i think i still like DXC more" "well at least it had good artwork & music" etc etc. this is inevitable

the fanbase is fickle, always has been and everyone is just super high rite now

I know I've said it before, but I've never been impressed with the storylines in IGA's games, and I don't think Bloodstained will be any different. I always preferred the simple but effective plots the classic CV games had, and I thought IGA's plots always had lots of potential, but failed in the execution. But the games themselves have always been fun to play, so I don't really care how the story turns out, especially with this being a brand new series.

I'm just excited to see what he can do with a decent budget, without all the Konami fuckery that we've come to know and love.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 22, 2015, 01:15:29 AM
You are officially my favorite person of the day. Cross stitch ftw! I have only ever attempted very simple 8-bit sprites, which look very cool and all, but one day I'm gonna try to make something more complicated!

Thanks! Just go to my deviantart page (http://shiroikoumori.deviantart.com/). for more needlework goodies.

I sent them a private message giving my support, and Iga did reply, so yeah, it's easy to do that, or, alternatively, just leave a comment on the KS main page.  :)  That would actually be pretty awesome to have.

Go, Shiroi, go!  You can do this, you can get Gebel done!  :D  *Pulls out a pair of black and gold cheer-leading pom-poms*

I left a question on their tumblr page anonymously. I just hope they give out a reply. Alternatively, some of you guys are also ask the same thing "please give the CVDF members a special clan name?" or something like that. More people who ask, more likely they'll do it.

Thanks for cheering me on. I really need to finish this by mid June.
My eyes are getting tired.... It is hard to stitch dark threads on a black aida....
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: LoneChild on May 22, 2015, 05:13:22 AM
Aaand this is what I was thinking about a more Shanoa-like design for the main character. 100% less jpop-star looking. Opinions? (Artwork's from a close friend, btw).
http://iga-bloodstained.tumblr.com/post/119565183196/miriam (http://iga-bloodstained.tumblr.com/post/119565183196/miriam)
(https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11107731_1757465627813140_5157953676576482383_n.jpg?oh=6f5831f21d57f0c66326c6cd937c610a&oe=560467F7)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 22, 2015, 05:30:53 AM
We already get the first Yamane 8-bit track.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: JohnSnow73 on May 22, 2015, 05:39:01 AM
Yes i like your design it has a gothic feel to it but why the dull colors!

Especially the face and hair of the main character is boring.

Inti Creates concept design it a total fail.

Bytheway Nobody reacted on the horrible music of Ippo Yamada.

By God listen to the stuff he already made and on Iga's KS

We should have a petition page to kick him out!

Last but not least everyone minus plus agrees the disgusting
art desing of Inti creates even the castle has the same New Age
feel to it.

We need to petition to IGA to stop these 2 main problems!
By god use the Money we have given you for an other Concept Artist
and a Second Music Composer.

Not dumb Goals like cheat codes and other rubbish targets which he is asking
too much money for.

The only thing we ask is a Better Artist an please dump Ippo Yamada.

Thank you will not wine again.

Since i backed this project with 500 dollars

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: LoneChild on May 22, 2015, 05:54:21 AM
Maybe i wasn't clear enough about it. The artwork's from a friend, not mine (I wish i could get this quality with my abilities).
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 22, 2015, 06:01:54 AM
Yes i like your design it has a gothic feel to it but why the dull colors!

Especially the face and hair of the main character is boring.

Inti Creates concept design it a total fail.

Bytheway Nobody reacted on the horrible music of Ippo Yamada.

By God listen to the stuff he already made and on Iga's KS

We should have a petition page to kick him out!

Last but not least everyone minus plus agrees the disgusting
art desing of Inti creates even the castle has the same New Age
feel to it.

We need to petition to IGA to stop these 2 main problems!
By god use the Money we have given you for an other Concept Artist
and a Second Music Composer.

Not dumb Goals like cheat codes and other rubbish targets which he is asking
too much money for.

The only thing we ask is a Better Artist an please dump Ippo Yamada.

Thank you will not wine again.

Since i backed this project with 500 dollars

dude calm down....kicking 1 person this early from the team will cause a fall on the other members. what if they're all attached to each other ? the sample I listened from Ippo's piece sounds perfect for a boss battle, it's totally your own opinion.

about the concept art..it looks fine to me also Miriam design looks really great Idk why everyone is thinking she looks like a k-pop or j-pop ?
you're just overreacting tbh :/
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2015, 06:16:38 AM
Ippo's song on that kickstarter page is great. Gives me the vibe of symphony of the nights type rock tracks. The art design is a bit anime but the characters are fine otherwise. Kirch picking peoppe
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 22, 2015, 07:46:15 AM
No, please not more recycling...

There's almost no other way for low budget games to survive these days. IGA specifically said in an interview recently what everyone already knows: the recycling done on the CV titles was to cut down on the budgets of the games to keep the games above the unprofitable line, i.e. the death line. Huge, high selling franchises are what can afford all new assets every game, and even they probably reuse a lot of stuff people wouldn't notice or that feels natural to carry over. For example, CoD probably reuses gun meshes and textures because why remodel the same model of gun for each game? Also generally games like that only have a tiny enemy variety because they're limited to humans by the setting, so that helps them in a way something like CV couldn't take advantage of. In CV we expected a huge enemy variety and the only way to keep the budget low and still have it was the plumb the depths of past games for assets.

Aaand this is what I was thinking about a more Shanoa-like design for the main character. 100% less jpop-star looking. Opinions? (Artwork's from a close friend, btw).
http://iga-bloodstained.tumblr.com/post/119565183196/miriam (http://iga-bloodstained.tumblr.com/post/119565183196/miriam)
(https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/v/t1.0-9/11107731_1757465627813140_5157953676576482383_n.jpg?oh=6f5831f21d57f0c66326c6cd937c610a&oe=560467F7)

Wow, I like that more than the official art. I'm still "okay" with the official art though, although I do wish it was darker, but maybe it won't make too much of a difference for what the model looks like in-game, which is what matters. In-game models will often look a bit different than the concept art (although less so in 2.5D).
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 22, 2015, 08:00:42 AM
There's almost no other way for low budget games to survive these days. IGA specifically said in an interview recently what everyone already knows: the recycling done on the CV titles was to cut down on the budgets of the games to keep the games above the unprofitable line, i.e. the death line. Huge, high selling franchises are what can afford all new assets every game, and even they probably reuse a lot of stuff people wouldn't notice or that feels natural to carry over. For example, CoD probably reuses gun meshes and textures because why remodel the same model of gun for each game? Also generally games like that only have a tiny enemy variety because they're limited to humans by the setting, so that helps them in a way something like CV couldn't take advantage of. In CV we expected a huge enemy variety and the only way to keep the budget low and still have it was the plumb the depths of past games for assets.

Wow, I like that more than the official art. I'm still "okay" with the official art though, although I do wish it was darker, but maybe it won't make too much of a difference for what the model looks like in-game, which is what matters. In-game models will often look a bit different than the concept art (although less so in 2.5D).

I am fine with recycling enemy types and general bestiaries. Hell, Castlevania had always done this. I am just saying if they do, add new attacks if they reuse enemy sprites. Freshen it up. Don't just copy and paste an enemy.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 22, 2015, 08:46:38 AM
i agree that is awesome artwork your friend did LoneChild. it evokes a reminiscence of Circle of the moon artwork, which is very underrated
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TheCruelAngel on May 22, 2015, 09:12:29 AM
Pretty awesome redesign, though I noticed your friend switched her gauntlet arm and her sword swingin' hand. The design aesthetic is what I imagine Ms. Kojima would pen, something that feels more historically appropriate.

As for the J-pop design of the original...I don't see it? Are you just complaining because the skirt is a little poofy? Not enough zippers and belts to appease a Nomura-fetish? I mean, these are all J-pop stars and their outfits (some of them promotional) so...yeah. Maybe layoff the slightly-racist crack?

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnme.assets.ipccdn.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2F2014Kiss_Press_2_211214.jpg&hash=a87c292790919f0512a5b5ba76ca5365)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnekopop.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F04%2FNekoPOP-Momoiro-Clover-Z-Dragonball-Z-Frieza-2.jpg&hash=c6c7a9543b6e1f5bc0a86a21cd3ed9d8)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdata.tokyogirlsupdate.com%2Fwp%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F04%2Fimg_Z_no_Chikai_04.jpg&hash=e2e1c0af436c2d5e0b96474041ba7623)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jpopasia.com%2Fimg%2Falbum-covers%2F2%2F13590-breakinouttothemorning-6c8g.jpg&hash=d7b98505cd7ae92d7be5395ad512fae7)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi12.tinypic.com%2F6aju32v.jpg&hash=4e9414fe47bd54be2755bdac906dcfdf)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 22, 2015, 09:56:29 AM
Pretty awesome redesign, though I noticed your friend switched her gauntlet arm and her sword swingin' hand. The design aesthetic is what I imagine Ms. Kojima would pen, something that feels more historically appropriate.

As for the J-pop design of the original...I don't see it? Are you just complaining because the skirt is a little poofy? Not enough zippers and belts to appease a Nomura-fetish? I mean, these are all J-pop stars and their outfits (some of them promotional) so...yeah. Maybe layoff the slightly-racist crack?

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnme.assets.ipccdn.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fgallery%2F2014Kiss_Press_2_211214.jpg&hash=a87c292790919f0512a5b5ba76ca5365)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnekopop.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F04%2FNekoPOP-Momoiro-Clover-Z-Dragonball-Z-Frieza-2.jpg&hash=c6c7a9543b6e1f5bc0a86a21cd3ed9d8)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fdata.tokyogirlsupdate.com%2Fwp%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F04%2Fimg_Z_no_Chikai_04.jpg&hash=e2e1c0af436c2d5e0b96474041ba7623)
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.jpopasia.com%2Fimg%2Falbum-covers%2F2%2F13590-breakinouttothemorning-6c8g.jpg&hash=d7b98505cd7ae92d7be5395ad512fae7)
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....this looks nothing like what we got on Miriam
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 22, 2015, 10:02:02 AM
If it's a design less grounded in reality = anime/J-pop according to the internet because people don't know how to properly label it.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: X on May 22, 2015, 10:19:05 AM
To be honest I don't see what's so J-pop-ish about Miriam's design. J-pop is not clothing, it's a type of music that is heavily influenced by western pop music and given a Japanese flavor.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 22, 2015, 12:15:34 PM
The redesign is quite nice, but there are a few issues.  The side of the coat-dress without a strap would be unlikely to stay up without some sort of strap.  Not for when fighting.  Secondly, that mini dress is so short it would be waaaay too short without shorts on underneath to protect her modesty (as seen in the official design).    The J-fashion influences in her outfit that I can see are themselves inspired by Victorian fashions.  This makes sense considering the time setting of this.  They look like short, frilly bloomers.  I would prefer a longer outfit on Miriam, but hey, I still like it.  Besides, Miriam is not Shonoa, and never will be.  She is a brand new character in her own right, and Shonoa belongs to Konami.


As for the certain voice of dissent regarding Yamada's presence in the game, and Miriam's design, we are damn lucky to be getting this game.  Plus Yamada's preview track is brilliant imho.  Music tastes is subjective.  If you dislike everything you're seeing, then don't back it. Simple as that.  You're coming across as rather entitled here sorry to say.  Just because you're clearly coming across as hating so much about this game we have to boycott it?  Overall, I have seen a huge amount of positivity about the stuff you're complaining about, including here.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 22, 2015, 01:09:34 PM
Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night  NEW Interview about KICKSTARTER:

http://www.thejimquisition.com/2015/05/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night-interview-koji-igarashi/ (http://www.thejimquisition.com/2015/05/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night-interview-koji-igarashi/)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: CastleDan on May 22, 2015, 01:14:03 PM
Regardless the artwork has looked quite cartoony compared to this -

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffantasyanime.com%2Fvalhalla%2Fcastlevaniasotn%2Fimages%2FcastlevsotnArt23.jpg&hash=83722ee6e7c316bc3acd6d66fdcf800e)



Vs(https://ksr-ugc.imgix.net/assets/003/771/703/96604819672297a658279ff19c1d35db_original.png?v=1431371831&w=700&h=&fit=max&auto=format&lossless=true&s=9ac3aaf5f4134abc8e3cf304962b815a)

one looks like gothic artwork the other like a cartoon.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Aiddon on May 22, 2015, 01:15:19 PM
I think the critism of IGA during that time was mostly because of Metroidvania fatigue. And of course around 2009 Dave Cox was spreading stories to anyone who was naive enough to believe it that LoS was going to be totally like SCIV but in 3D for the real fans, and as someone already mentioned in this thread, launching a smear campaign against the Metroidvanias. Couple that with the fact that MoF was a very pathetic replacement to the previous handheld games, which are all gems in their own right, and Konami's currently salting the earth while retreating their way out of the console industry, I think I can understand why people here are welcoming IGA back with open arms.

That would be me (in bold). I never understood the bizarre contempt people showed for Iga out of nowhere. There is not a single bad Metroidvania. SotN through OoE are all either incredibly well-crafted or outright classics and none of them are even close to bad. It reminds me of how people tried to justify the attempt at a Devil May Cry reboot a year ago, basically claiming that the old games were never good to begin with and that Dante was never cool. And then it backfired because they had pissed way too many people off and because the designers were revealed as a bunch of hacks with incredibly large yet fragile egos. Goes to show how far arrogance will get you in the world. And that's before we get into the legions of contrarians who seem to think liking something is stupid and use the word "fanboy' as a pejorative, but that's for another time.

To be honest I don't see what's so J-pop-ish about Miriam's design. J-pop is not clothing, it's a type of music that is heavily influenced by western pop music and given a Japanese flavor.

Because people like using anything relating to Japan as an insult.

Anyway, looks like things have slowed considerably, but I can see the game hitting at least the $3 million mark by the end of the campaign. A Wii U version is thankfully a stretch goal and will probably be my system of choice. I hope they do interesting stuff with the Gamepad.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Castle34hk on May 22, 2015, 02:06:36 PM
Update 8 is up now ;D  https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iga/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night/posts/1239627 (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/iga/bloodstained-ritual-of-the-night/posts/1239627)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dengo vlad tepes on May 22, 2015, 02:14:33 PM
Cartoon,Cartoon, J-pop, J-pop

people..like seriously...I don't know what to say, but can you freaking like the art style as it is ? you need to accept that the artist is not Ms.Kojima it's someone with a different style and different view stop comparing and looking back a lot..it's so disgusting. if you see something beautiful like it for it's beauty and stop comparing with something else, this goes for different matters in life. I really got sick of people comparing the art style with Ayame's...ok Ayame has an amazing style and fits this genre well ! but she's not the only one who can draw in this whole planet she got busy and she can't participate with this project so they got someone else who's doing a flawless job imo..
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: piscesdreams on May 22, 2015, 02:52:36 PM
BeingtheHero got a question answered in the new AskIga.

http://youtu.be/2clrGu-ecec (http://youtu.be/2clrGu-ecec)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 22, 2015, 03:51:44 PM
Cartoon,Cartoon, J-pop, J-pop

people..like seriously...I don't know what to say, but can you freaking like the art style as it is ? you need to accept that the artist is not Ms.Kojima it's someone with a different style and different view stop comparing and looking back a lot..it's so disgusting. if you see something beautiful like it for it's beauty and stop comparing with something else, this goes for different matters in life. I really got sick of people comparing the art style with Ayame's...ok Ayame has an amazing style and fits this genre well ! but she's not the only one who can draw in this whole planet she got busy and she can't participate with this project so they got someone else who's doing a flawless job imo..

This exactly.   Yes, it's a different artist, with their own style, so of course it looks different.  Bloodstained is its own entity, it's not Castlevania, although it's as close as we're going to get in the foreseeable future, sadly.  Yes, it would be amazing to have Ayame Kojima's involved, but hey, she's busy. That's completely excusable and understandable.  Different artists have their own styles, doesn't make them inherently better or worse than others.  The art style here is a little less intricate in the tiny details, but it's still pretty.  Heck, just look at that castle vista!  It's stunning.  It reminds me a little of the castle in The Neverending Story.
I remember a time when one of the complaints about the Metroidvanias was that Kojima's character designs were too feminine, too bishie pretty boy, and not buff, ripped manliness, like in the older games.  Yes, we've been a bit spoilt by having such amazing artwork from Ayame Kojima's, and the artists for LoS, but it's still good. Heck, it's less anime styled than the art for Rondo, or for PoR, and DoS.  Even then, anime comes in so many styles.  Just look at the gorgeous Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust, or Hellsing Ultimate, and compare it to the overly cutesy, stereotypical anime styles such as in say, Cardcaptor Sakura (which I admit to having a soft spot for).
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 22, 2015, 04:17:08 PM
BeingtheHero got a question answered in the new AskIga.

I came here exactly because of that. Congratulation Beingthehero, now that senpai noticed you, use your charm to bring him to our dungeon ;D
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 22, 2015, 04:29:27 PM
just becuz ayami kojima wasnt available to do the artwork for bloodstained, doesnt mean she wont be able to make some renditions later on. case in point, dawn of sorrow:

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(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv119%2Fc0mbat%2FUntitled_zps12ktirqe.jpg&hash=2352c765fc6afc6ce281d701a6c31115)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: beingthehero on May 22, 2015, 04:32:13 PM
Congratulation Beingthehero, now that senpai noticed you

(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FhWYot%2F9e8b6438b0.gif&hash=dd71187e1baa43bb898b2ad04c248394)

I guess I'm kinda surprised he's making it based entirely within the castle a la SotN or DoS, given how Curse, PoR, and OoE mixed it all up. But I guess this is going to be a fairly gigantic castle anyways.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: TatteredSeraph on May 22, 2015, 04:42:38 PM
Aye, it would be wonderful if she could do some Bloodstained art, at some point. :)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Charlotte-nyo:3 on May 22, 2015, 05:05:28 PM
I guess I'm kinda surprised he's making it based entirely within the castle a la SotN or DoS, given how Curse, PoR, and OoE mixed it all up. But I guess this is going to be a fairly gigantic castle anyways.

My guess is if he makes more Bloodstained games, for variation's sake if anything, chances are he might open it up again and go outside the castle. And unlike Castlevania he isn't even really locked in to always having a castle.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: aalluuccaarrdd on May 22, 2015, 05:37:31 PM
"It takes place in England around the late 1700's, a decade or two into the Industrial Revolution." - Ask IGA #2

Definitely some steampunk stuff in here!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: VladCT on May 22, 2015, 05:38:33 PM
The new Backet Tier is called... Play a Hayter?
http://instantrimshot.com/ (http://instantrimshot.com/)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 22, 2015, 05:56:04 PM
"It takes place in England around the late 1700's, a decade or two into the Industrial Revolution." - Ask IGA #2

Definitely some steampunk stuff in here!

Ooooo, late 1700s! That's SotN-era stuff, baby! Schweeet!

Some of that artwork of the dungeon/alchemy lab gives me CoD feels with the Innocent Devils(which also had that whole "crystal" theme going for them).

Looks like IGA's going to use the Lesser Key of Solomon/Goetian demons as a main theme, but also be open to pulling other mythologies into the mix(like CV). I hope, considering like CV, this is historically set in our world, there will be some references to various occult figures, like John Dee or Roger Bacon.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Neobelmont on May 22, 2015, 06:12:36 PM
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2FhWYot%2F9e8b6438b0.gif&hash=dd71187e1baa43bb898b2ad04c248394)

I guess I'm kinda surprised he's making it based entirely within the castle a la SotN or DoS, given how Curse, PoR, and OoE mixed it all up. But I guess this is going to be a fairly gigantic castle anyways.


That gif.....

It's not Lilina  :P but still kawaii as heck. Maybe too kawaii....

Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 22, 2015, 08:14:05 PM
I wonder if Miriam will be the start of a new bloodline similar to the Belmonts if there will be more games after this one.

If it plays out that way, it reminds me of how Sonia almost started the Belmont family until IGA retconned her.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 22, 2015, 09:53:53 PM
I wonder if Miriam will be the start of a new bloodline similar to the Belmonts if there will be more games after this one.

If it plays out that way, it reminds me of how Sonia almost started the Belmont family until IGA retconned her.
Would be interesting. We'd need to know what her surname is, though. The family needs a name.

Also, considering this takes place in the late 18th century, that means her children and their children, if this series expands, will have their adventures during the Victorian era.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on May 22, 2015, 11:33:57 PM
Spriters! Get to work. :)

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Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Donvermicelli on May 23, 2015, 02:34:19 AM
Spriters! Get to work. :)

On it! :p
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Lelygax on May 23, 2015, 03:20:21 AM
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Norin LOL

Would be interesting. We'd need to know what her surname is, though. The family needs a name.

Also, considering this takes place in the late 18th century, that means her children and their children, if this series expands, will have their adventures during the Victorian era.

Miriam Bullwhip, Miriam Katana, Miriam Broadsword, Miriam Cat O' Nine Tails, etc. :rollseyes:
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 23, 2015, 03:49:44 AM
Hero-sama's famous! I'm gonna see if I can get mentioned on IGA time too :D What's this weeks' theme?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Nagumo on May 23, 2015, 04:04:43 AM
"Monsters and Boss Battles", I believe.

I wonder if there going with the secret history angle like the Castlevania series, or go full-blown Megami Tensei with demons taking over the world. IGA also said in one of the podcasts he wanted to make both Miriam and Gebel have gray aspects to their charcters instead of making them just good and evil. I wonder how deep they are going to delve into that, though I expect probably not a whole lot. I wouldn't want them to copy Castlevania series too much so I think adding a Belmont Clan expy would probably be a bit too derative. Also don't forget IGA mostly tried to dance around the issue of the Belmonts having to be the protagonist, so might as well avoid that from the start this time around. 
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: crisis on May 23, 2015, 05:15:29 AM
i dont think there will be a not-belmont clan a family bloodline, but rather a holy organization/team thats tasked to fight these monsters throughout the generations. like ecclesia
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 23, 2015, 06:08:54 AM
Thanks nagumo, I sent Iga-sama an ask :D let's see if I get featured!
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Dremn on May 23, 2015, 11:15:14 AM
Spriters! Get to work. :)
Yeah, gonna give this a go.
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: DragonSlayr81 on May 23, 2015, 02:39:54 PM
Hey, how do you get in contact to ask one of those questions to IGA? Is it on Twitter or the comment section on the Kickstarter page?
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Chernabogue on May 23, 2015, 03:07:28 PM
Hey, how do you get in contact to ask one of those questions to IGA? Is it on Twitter or the comment section on the Kickstarter page?
The Q&A videos use tweets. ;)
Title: Re: The first sign rises with the full moon.
Post by: Gunlord on May 24, 2015, 09:51:02 AM
Hmm...though this may be a little pessmisstic, here's an interesting post I found on how big kickstarters like IGA's might hurt smaller indie producers:

http://www.polygon.com/2015/5/19/8624665/big-indie-kickstarters-are-killing-actual-indies (http://www.polygon.com/2015/5/19/8624665/big-indie-kickstarters-are-killing-actual-indies)

It raises many of t