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Title: Fuck 2015
Post by: darkmanx_429 on December 31, 2015, 07:28:08 PM
I just made a thread to vent I guess because I don't really have anyway to get these feelings out.

This has literally been the worst year of my entire life especially the last 6 months and literally no one gives a shit.

In this year, I lost my wife (who is just doing vindictive stuff to me now after being together for 8 years), almost got arrested on bs charges, lost my house, and most importantly I cannot see my little boy. I basically only really saw him for a month and then he was gone.

I was only out of school for 2 months only to try to get back to school and had to wait 6 more months to start again. Now I won't know any of the connections I had because they have all went and graduated and I won't be with my graduating class obviously either which consists of a whole 1 person that I started with who doesn't really keep contact with me.

I had to go from having my own place to living with 2 strangers I barely know in a small 1 bedroom with what's left of my possessions in storage.

I have no close family and not one single loyal friend. Not a one.

No matter how much effort I put in my studies, networking, or art I can't get a single job in the industry hence me back in school trying to get a Masters Degree for thirty grand.

No matter who much I read , pray, stay positive, be a loyal friend, or help people for nothing in return  I am constantly getting fucked over royally.

Many of you know the situation that just occurred to me at my ex-gym last week, so let just share what happened in just the last couple of days. I remind you I am royally fucking depressed at this point if it wasn't for my little boy I would even contemplate ending it all just so I can rest.

So I was at my new gym yesterday, saw a totally hot girl that I was interested in, started a conversation, gave her my number and got hers. Wasn't overally flirty just honestly trying to meet 1 new person where I am at to have some kind of real human interactions again returning to the "world."

We schedule a workout session, she gives me a time, I text as I don't hear from her assuming she's asleep. She show's up about a hour and a half later doesn't approach me right away, so I am assuming she wants me to make the first move so I go to her.

We work out together, I am trying to talk to her she's constantly has headphones in. (I have some too but of course I took them out since we are working out together.)

She leaves for a sec, comes to find out she has her step-brother and  step-sister in the gym with her today. She doesn't really make an effort to introduce me to them so I introduce myself to the step brother, he knows my name so I am assuming that she talked to him about me. She joins the convo but she is mainly talking with him off and on and not really to me, big difference from the previous day.

Mind you I didn't contact her the previous day at all even though I had her number. Didn't want to seem needy or paster her or whatever girl's don't like guys that they don't really know doing.

So we get done working out together, she really didn't want to do any of my workout but I had already got it in for the most part  before she arrived and the exercises she does I never do but I did a few sets of certain ones with her and then substituted the other ones with something else and worked beside her.

When we are done obviously I am intrigued and want to know when the next time we can do something together or work out. Here comes the I'm always busy and this and that...then she mentions that she has a boyfriend.  Really?

So I saw you peeping me the previous day had enough balls to convo with you and then you schedule a workout with me only to tell me you have a boyfriend? I wasn't being flirty in the slightest, basically doing everything opposite that I would normally do in the past. Totally disappointed. I just cut her off in the middle of her stick and told her that she can just text me when she wants to do something. (It won't happen.)

That was situation #1 today.

After the gym I go to redbox, as I had wanted to ask x girl to go out for NYE and obviously she mentioned it would be just her and her family as they are down and they always do something for New Years together. So after the non invite I figured that wasn't going to happen so I got some movies to drown my sorrows away with.

So the last week or so I been expanding to doing some online dating apps, what's popular with the girls in the now I guess,  (usually definitely not my cup of tea ) but you know having a hard time meeting anyone here. I don't know a soul and it's not like I am getting invited anywhere. So basically I get a ping from a pretty good looking gal who says she likes me as well. Been reading so social interaction materials and watching a few tip videos you know, trying to get back into the dating game.

I had a plan made out for NYE basically a place to go watch fireworks, bars etc. I hit her up with my number if she is interested. She responds she would like that. Actually calls me back once she got home from work. We have good convo, she and I ask each other basic questions about one another. She seems happy as she says she didn't have any plans today. We make a time so that we both can get ready and leave.

I wanted to pick her up, she suggests that we both meet somewhere. (My good nature I forget I guess it's kinda of stalker-ish ya know gal getting in strange car with guy she doesn't know online, makes sense..)I was cool with that.

We leave the same time (I assume) I'm there in about 30 minutes. I shoot her a text to let her know that I made it. She tells me she had to turn around as she forgot her purse and she would be 20 minutes out.

I wait outside. It starts to rain..hard. Of course I was in a park by a bar everyone runs for cover. I take shelter. To make a long story short about almost an hr passes, I try to call. No answer. I get it it's NYE, she had to turn around and then has to drive back. Parking may also be an issue, then she probably has to walk to where I am at and if she's dressed nice, probably might take a sec..

Over 30 minutes pass (I had updated her where I would be standing and wearing through text) no answer. I try to call again after another 10 minutes. No answer. I send her a text saying that if I don't hear from her by the top of the hour (when the fireworks start) I am going to leave.

So I had to pay for parking too, and got there on a decent hour. I got rained on and then basically got stood up for 2  hours for nothing. I sent her a text(on the dating app since I didn't hear back from her) basically telling her how rude that it was and good luck finding a decent man. Since she wanted to mention on her profile she was old school and want a chivalrous man.

What the fuck is wrong with my life?

I am telling you, I feel exactly like Steve Rogers. Unthawed in a world that I just don't understand anymore.


 
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: Mooning Freddy on January 01, 2016, 03:32:52 AM
Ah man, I feel you. My life is not as f**ked as yours, but the ending of the year for my was the biggest shock that I had in a while. Maybe if I share it would make you feel better (doesn't do it for me hearing about other people's misfortune but it's good to share).

As you might have heard I broke up with the lady I was in a relationship with for a year and a half. In retrospect, I admit that it was the right thing to do as we would have to break up eventually because we had totally different goals in life. I wanted marriage, a family and to consider having children, she was very career-focused, didn't believe in marriage and combining an intense career with raising children. Also we had quite different approaches to raising children.
Despite the fact I acknowledge the relationship has reached a breaking point, I still think today that perhaps I was an idiot because I was unable to break up with her despite not being okay with her choices in life. But the relationship was really fun and enjoyable while it lasted; it just didn't lead anywhere; which I guess made me quite bitter, cold and somewhat unhappy and I think ultimately lead to her being unhappy and dumping me.

The second plan that I had for the year came crashing down; I planned to study in the country of my ex and live with her for a year. Deep inside I guess something made me feel it's not really going to happen; which made me irresponsible and so I screwed up my visa request documents and got my visa rejected; leading me to have no choice but postpone my studies till next year.
Now I'm left in my country, working in a reasonably fun job, earning a nice wage. Had two dates, both of which ended in failure. I could elaborate more if you want to hear. Still keeping my hopes up and optimistic.

Girls on dating sites are total shit. I don't understand it. There were girl who gave me likes but didn't respond to my messages. WTF? Why did you "like" me then? The vast majority of girls that I messaged didn't respond. And it's weird. I'm quite a handsome, nice guy.
Then there were the few ones who responded to some of my messages, then disappeared. What the hell, girls? Why did you talk to me in the first place? At least have the courage to say "I found someone else" or something. Then there was the one bitch who said "intrigue me". I said "okay" and told her this and that, and asked her some questions about herself. Then she said "sorry, that's not interesting". Well, f**k you then! I'm having a conversation with you, I'm not here to entertain you! ugh. Such garbage. 
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: X on January 01, 2016, 10:28:09 AM
As low as you guys got shafted (and believe me I feel for you both) at least you were given the chance to experience romance or relationships. I have no such luck in my life. I'm the quintessential outcast of society. 36 years old and still have no-one to share anything with. Never given the chance. At all. And believe me 2015 was the worst I felt as my bodily functions were screaming for me to get it on with a woman. All I could tell myself was this: "Not going to happen body, deal with it. The women don't see you in that way. They never have and can't be bothered to do-so now. You're a loser. Just like the f@#ked up, broken down, outdated school system wanted you to be." Yeah... I'm glad I'm not a military dictator or a corrupt leader cause then everyones' heads would roll  :P

Other then that, the other thing that is f@#king stupid about 2015 is we still don't have hover conversion for cars, boards, etc. or even Mr Fusion to permanently retire all those outdated fossil fuels we're still (unfortunately) using. We should have had those a looooong time ago.
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: darkmanx_429 on January 01, 2016, 12:42:14 PM
Yeah, I think I just expect too much out of people, but I refuse to believe I need to lower my standards just to be accepted by society.

I never had anyone stood me up like that before in my entire life. That was a really shitty feeling and I was pissed.

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I am brand spanking new to the online dating scene. But I think I got most of them OKCupid, Coffee Meets Bagel,Tinder and I grabbed Instagram because alot of chicks use it.

I been casually trying to meet people at the gym now, but I am wary about that as I really go there to work out not to meet chicks and I don't want to be that guy. I start school again in a few days so I will be reaching out there too of course.

But honestly, from what I have been exposed too most uber hot girls are interested in guys that do drugs (namely weed) or likes to hang out the bar scene and drink at every social interaction.

For a guy like me who is pretty straight edged that's a no go for me and seeing hot women at the gym I think obviously these women care enough about themselves to maintain a level of dedication so they must have the potential to have their shit together.

I am not a bad looking guy,every serious relationship I have been in has been with dimes,but I have kind of realized I am not looking for that at this point in my life right now especially since the few serious relationships that I have had both went down in a blaze of glory. To include my last one.

But whatever the case, I have been slowly reverting to my way of thinking after doing some study and readings before I got married to my ex-wife.  It's still super hard man as this is 8 years later and of course alot has changed in the past couple of years in the dating scene.

The only chicks that basically throw themselves at me now (since my physical appearance has changed dramatically the last couple of years) are heavy chicks. I am not shallow but that doesn't work for me. I am not attracted to that and honestly it looks desperate to me. It's like, I'm not God's gift but I wouldn't throw myself at a super model without (at least in my eyes) not meeting or exceeding what someone with that stature may be expecting from a potential suitor.

As for the average 8.5-10 scale chicks that I may be interested in they do a great job of hiding the fact if they are interested in me and I am a nerd so I don't notice these things even when I make an attempt to show interested like trying to make eye contact things like that.

I also am cursed for some reason to always give off this potential boyfriend/husband vibe even if I am not acting flirty or suggestive so automatically a woman has her woman defense systems up. Fuck being that nice friend you just end up listening to all her problems in her relationship (been there) and that's like putting oil in a car that's already wrecked.

Anyhow, I feel like this stage in my life. I just need a hot f8ck buddy who doesn't mind chilling out and someone to talk to and share mutual interests. If it goes past that into a relationship that's cool too, but it's not something I am ready for just yet.

Honestly this is the first time in my life I am not really sure where I am going or what to do.

But make no mistake, I am not about to play these dating games with "entitled" women. All these rules and shit, I just want to be myself. I am what I am. That's been the most frustrating part right now.

As low as you guys got shafted (and believe me I feel for you both) at least you were given the chance to experience romance or relationships. I have no such luck in my life. I'm the quintessential outcast of society. 36 years old and still have no-one to share anything with. Never given the chance. At all. And believe me 2015 was the worst I felt as my bodily functions were screaming for me to get it on with a woman. All I could tell myself was this: "Not going to happen body, deal with it. The women don't see you in that way. They never have and can't be bothered to do-so now. You're a loser. Just like the f@#ked up, broken down, outdated school system wanted you to be." Yeah... I'm glad I'm not a military dictator or a corrupt leader cause then everyones' heads would roll  :P

Other then that, the other thing that is f@#king stupid about 2015 is we still don't have hover conversion for cars, boards, etc. or even Mr Fusion to permanently retire all those outdated fossil fuels we're still (unfortunately) using. We should have had those a looooong time ago.

As for you X. You sound like me a lifetime ago. It's going to suck for you as I hate it (even now)you have to get some notes that work through trial and error and approach all the women you are interested in first.

I know it sucks, because (and I fucking hate it) you are putting yourself out there first as well as the terrifying thought of being humiliated or rejected. But you have to train yourself to get through that, at least if doesn't go exactly as planned at least you can tell yourself you at least made the effort to seal a deal.
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: Gunlord on January 01, 2016, 12:59:14 PM
Yeah, that's another problem with the online dating scene--you're not the only one who's experienced it, brother, we feel ya. There are a lotta crazies and flakes on dating websites cause there's no easy way to filter 'em out, that's the problem :/
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: darkmanx_429 on January 01, 2016, 04:47:46 PM
Yeah, that's another problem with the online dating scene--you're not the only one who's experienced it, brother, we feel ya. There are a lotta crazies and flakes on dating websites cause there's no easy way to filter 'em out, that's the problem :/

Dude, and this is probably going to sound wrong because there's no way for it to sound right but females always have a list of criteria for guys even if they aren't models so here it is..(as fucked up as that sounds.)

One thing that I noticed that bugs me is big chicks constantly taking these uber close up pics of their faces trying to purposely leave their bodies out of the pic. It just looks dumb and you can tell what their doing.

Or throwing like 6 pics of skinny pics (I guess older ones) and then 1 or 2 of their current pics and then they look much different!

Or taking pics with super hot skinny friends!

I mean, if you aren't happy about your body instead of doing that stuff, just make a conscious effort to change your body. I mean doing stuff like that tells me something about a person that may not necessarily be a good thing.

(No I am not shallow, I am just looking for compatibility.)
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: Mooning Freddy on January 01, 2016, 11:52:59 PM
Dude, and this is probably going to sound wrong because there's no way for it to sound right but females always have a list of criteria for guys even if they aren't models so here it is..(as fucked up as that sounds.)

One thing that I noticed that bugs me is big chicks constantly taking these uber close up pics of their faces trying to purposely leave their bodies out of the pic. It just looks dumb and you can tell what their doing.


Ugh, so true! Why are they doing it? I salute fat girls who actually aren't afraid to show it on their profile pics. There are guys out there who like big girls, but not me. Don't hide, you're going to suffer more. I actually prefer curvy girls, even chubby ones, don't like girls who are sticks. But not fat ones.

Also, some girls actually try to hide the fact they're ugly by posting really weird photos. wtf?
Then there are the good-looking ones who still have awful photos. How about trying to make an effort?  :P

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Or taking pics with super hot skinny friends!

Oh yeah, What's up with that? put up a group photo as your profile pic? How am I supposed to know which one you are?  :P
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: Rugal on January 02, 2016, 07:08:49 AM
Why are you messing with women right now man? I think you should work on getting yourself back together first before trying to get with some leeching bitch that doesn't give a fuck about you or your well being.

Let's face it. It's 2016 now and people are more ignorant than ever. These dirty whores don't give a damn what they do to you and how they treat you. They are attention mongers and will do whatever it takes to get it. I skimmed the replies to this thread and saw something about fat girls. Please don't date a fatty. If you can take the time out of your busy, hard life and take care of your body, then you should at least get to be with someone who isn't a walking piece of grotesque excuse for a human being.
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: zangetsu468 on January 02, 2016, 09:31:05 AM
Tips for online dating(/ dating in general):

- Decide the sort of person/ parameters you're willing to compromise/ not going in. So many people say they can't find what they want (online) but they don't know what they want.
- Avoid people who don't know what they want (unless they're your kids etc) as a general note
- If you add a woman and she accepts, wait 60 seconds prior to initiating conversation (it's more casual and not so in her face) there'll be plenty of time for conversation if you're both willing.
- Always ask for pictures within a reasonable amount of time given the individual situation (each being different). The betting minimum is 3 photos where a person can clearly be seen.
- Not every woman will have scantily clad or topless photos online, don't expect it.
- The sort of photos someone puts up can tell you a lot about a person.
- Selfies taken from high altitude often hide excess weight. 
- Not all women are fucked up, but you get randoms online due to:
•Loose canons (real people)
•Hacked accounts (a random using an existing person's account)
•People looking for a random hookup/ shag who will never say it in those words
•The fact you could be talking to a sicko fuck, dude using a woman's pics (nobody knows who they're really talking to online until a meeting is organised)
- You will find randoms, because you wouldn't normally necessarily meet these people in real life.
- Beware hackers/ scammers, anyone who basically asks you for money and unless someone is foreign, bad grammar = good indication of a false profile. (Those sites are often funded by people who scam the general populous, why does anyone think they're "free"?)
- You have to sift through a lot of shit to find your gold.
- Expect nothing (1): even if someone adds you online, flirts, or 'likes' you there's no guarantee it will lead to anything.
- Expect nothing (2): even if you meet up with a woman, she seems keen and you hook up etc, you have no idea how many guys she's currently seeing and/ or sleeping with
- Expect nothing (3): even if you 1 & 2 happen and you sleep with a woman, there's no guarantee anything will happen out of that (again unless discussed and trust is established, you have no idea how many guys she's seeing)
- Expect nothing (4): even if 1-3 happen and you have a relationship but it doesn't work out, that's not the fault of using online, that's just life - a harsh mistress at times, at other times a loving overseer.
- Trust is important, don't date someone you don't trust/ believe you can trust. Unfortunately since it takes a while to build, the first few months (or relevant period of time) it needs to be instinctual.
- Trust your instincts, inconsistency is fickleness' ugly cousin on the dating field and beyond.
- Your heart is important, but don't forget to listen to your head - your head is smarter.
- If you're only in it for the pussy, disregard most of the above points but stay clean and keep your genitals out of harm's way and you'll be a winner'!.

From what I've seen it is possible to find one's suitor online. I even know people who've built successful marriages or gotten to the stage of engagement (still going).

Best of luck in 2016 all.   

Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: darkmanx_429 on January 02, 2016, 11:55:31 AM
Yeah, I am kinda finding out what you guys mentioned, online dating SUCKS.

Another gripe that I have. There are a lot of women sitting on their high horses with all these stupid prerequisites that they want for guys. Like I could give no kids a pass ( I used to be like that when I was younger), but under 6 feet, or can't be bald? Stuff like that irks me, especially when I am like ummm aren't you on a online dating site, so you must not be such the catch you think you are...

I had a girl hit me back today telling me that I looked older than 35. (Which was her cut off age.) Guess what bitch, I am 35 and I never heard that before in my entire life. If anything I always heard I look like I am in my twenties. That's why I had to grow my King Vegeta beard out. (Which you can't see in any of my pics.) I should of told that bitch so do you and then bye...but digress. I have a birthday at the end of this month too ironically.

I have also had girls hit me back with a No Thanks which I think is pretty fucking rude. I mean if you aren't interested why even take the time to respond back, to me that tells me that you got some uppity bullshit about you. 

Which I get to my main problem with fucking women in the US these days. How about some fucking humility. You are on a dating app and the moment someone is interested in you and not being a douche,they act like guys are coming up to them every 5 minutes and you have your pick of the litter...SMH


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Well, I am. But unfortunately there are going to be situations that I can't control so I might as well not be lonely and at least get some kind of companionship.

I'm a man. I have needs.

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Good advice.The majority of those should be common sense.

The bad part about all this is that this online game is starting to mimic real-life, the only difference is that I can't walk up to the woman face to face.
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: Mooning Freddy on January 02, 2016, 02:14:29 PM
Oh, that's funny, I can't believe you noticed it too - quite a lot of girls in my country too putting up "over 6 feet (1.80 m) tall" as a condition for men they're looking for. WTF? Why do you even care so much about a man's height? I mean, it's ridiculous. I understand if you're picky about a man's physique. But height? Most guys don't grow that high! And you're girls! You're all 5.2 - 5.6 anyway, why is that important? 
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: darkmanx_429 on January 02, 2016, 05:14:13 PM
Oh, that's funny, I can't believe you noticed it too - quite a lot of girls in my country too putting up "over 6 feet (1.80 m) tall" as a condition for men they're looking for. WTF? Why do you even care so much about a man's height? I mean, it's ridiculous. I understand if you're picky about a man's physique. But height? Most guys don't grow that high! And you're girls! You're all 5.2 - 5.6 anyway, why is that important?

It's fucking stupid. Then I saw the bald thing. Really fucking stupid. Now this 35 year old cap thing, but yet they think that can find 20 something old Christian Grey that is loaded with white anglo saxon protestant properties to come and sweep them off their feet. There are even woman who are like 31 saying that she won't date a 35 year old...reallly bitch?

I really don't know about the tall thing either. Do they think that they feel safer with a tall man because people normally tend to be apprehensive towards a taller person?

I kicked many a tall person's ass before. They are usually paper thin anyways. You know what they say the bigger they are, the more pieces they make..anyhow

Just had another stupid girl a moment ago. What the fuck is with these women? They have no humility at all.

Damn this video explained it all:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGyDItRfnCo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGyDItRfnCo)
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: zangetsu468 on January 02, 2016, 11:09:01 PM
I find the height thing funny as I found 90% of ppl don't even know their own height when asked. (Or weight for that matter, not that I ask, I hear things)

Guys, one last tip online dating has similarities to a gym:
- No matter how many women are there it's always a fuckjng "cockfest", the guys:girls ratio is more like 80:20 because many good women are taken
- No matter how many women are there, THEY get to filter men and decide who they talk to because of that ratio.

Darkmanx, I would ask myself is some online dime is on some stuck up bs, you have to wonder if there's nothing strange on the outside then what's going on on the inside for her to be online and not taken by the man of her dreams? Sometimes it's what people don't say that will tell you all.

Having said this online is also like telemarketing, particularly cold calls:
- It's cold literally and figuratively.
- If one call doesn't pay dividedends you need to be able to disconnect and "reset" for the next one. Having a specific mindset that it's doom and gloom or not is half the battle. If it's getting emotionally exhausting take a break, it's not worth emotional insanity.
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: Mooning Freddy on January 03, 2016, 12:04:51 AM
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Darkmanx, I would ask myself is some online dime is on some stuck up bs, you have to wonder if there's nothing strange on the outside then what's going on on the inside for her to be online and not taken by the man of her dreams? Sometimes it's what people don't say that will tell you all.

Well, the truth is, you need to consider why people get into online dating. There could be several reasons. Not necessarily people who have something wrong with them or too picky. Could be introverts, really shy people. People who were in a long-term relationship for several years that failed and now don't know where to look for someone new. People who don't want children (assuming that most people want children, it's hard to find someone you like and who also doesn't).
Then you have people like me. Nice, handsome people, a little shy, who found out they're 26 and all their friends are getting married or in a long relationship (all their friends who are not complete dorks and actually try to meet women, of course), and suddenly become scared by the shrinking market of single women their age and the ever shrinking chance to meet a single person whom you like IRL.
Since I believe most women on dating sites are over 24, I guess that's the age when people actually start thinking about that.

I had one date with a girl that I met online. It was a disaster. It didn't make me think all girls online are like that, but made me aware that this sort of thing is possible. It was really embarrassing. The girl was pretty and quite cute, but that's it; she was really weird. Slow-talking, probably not very intelligent, with a really annoying, tired voice. I sat there for an hour, talking about this and that, trying to take out any sort of enthusiasm from her, to no effect, she just shrugged and gave out weird comments. She had zero confidence, but not in a cute way; more like in a sickly way, as someone who has issues. I actually felt sorry for her; and that's not an emotion that you should feel on a date.  :P
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: JR on January 03, 2016, 12:44:56 AM
I tried online dating after a breakup with a long-time girlfriend who I moved to my current city with. It felt like a waste of time at first, but I eventually met my wife using one. It can be a good opportunity, especially for socially awkward people like me. Not socially awkward like creepy or anything, but I always assume that a woman is not that interested in me (only to find out otherwise from a third party sometimes, which is incredibly frustrating. You have no idea how many chances I've blown because I couldn't tell the difference between a girl just being flirty in general and taking a genuine interest in me. Yikes.). And plus, the anxiety of approaching a girl and potentially getting shot down has always been pretty comically high for me.

So yeah, online dating would probably be my best bet. It gets pretty good if you can find someone like-minded and level-headed, have some good chats with them, and finally go on a date.
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: darkmanx_429 on January 03, 2016, 02:20:21 PM
Before I was married guys, I just started on my journey through self discovery actually researching this shit reading things like"The Game", Mystery Method, etc. and not necessarily trying out any of the those techniques or anything it was more about really educating myself on my personal interactions with the opposite sex and being a study
of the game.

I actually did finds some buds and turned them on to the books and made Wingmen and actually go out and practice some of this shit though. So I do know it can be done.

I have been slowly reverting back to that mindset now. It's not about trying to run any game or people or anything like that but more about being the best version of yourself you can be. Maximizing the positives and minimizing the negatives till they are no longer a factor.

In 5 days I learned everything that I need to know about online dating. One thing that in my opinion should be stressed is, that online dating shouldn't be your main option of finding a potential suitor. It should just be another option that you have in your tool belt just in case you haven't found someone locally yet.

Now if you just happen to find someone online that lives locally that is cool beans too.

I  like having threads like this where guys can talk openly about issues like this. (No judgement here.)

So I don't know everything, but I can share at least things that worked for me and my studies:

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Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: X on January 03, 2016, 07:21:20 PM
That is some awesome advice! Glad to know you've done your homework  ;)  Believe me I'm always on the alert when it comes to negativity. I'm what you'd call empathic--someone who's more emotionally sensitive then others. Be it through word of mouth or reading threads I will feel the emotions behind the words. Especially the negative comments. Granted i will not always understand the online reads which is why I take my time and mull it over first before replying. I wish others would do the same as it avoids much unneeded conflict. That one of the main reasons why I try to stay away from conflicts on this forum or when I'm with other people, as I just absorb negativity like a sponge and I feel somewhat sick afterwards. And it's very difficult to get out of that spot too. It sucks being empathic but I'm stuck with it unfortunately.
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: zangetsu468 on January 03, 2016, 09:09:20 PM
Darkmanx that is great advice to all, even to those who don't date or do but wish to remain single.

That is some awesome advice! Glad to know you've done your homework  ;)  Believe me I'm always on the alert when it comes to negativity. I'm what you'd call empathic--someone who's more emotionally sensitive then others. Be it through word of mouth or reading threads I will feel the emotions behind the words. Especially the negative comments. Granted i will not always understand the online reads which is why I take my time and mull it over first before replying. I wish others would do the same as it avoids much unneeded conflict. That one of the main reasons why I try to stay away from conflicts on this forum or when I'm with other people, as I just absorb negativity like a sponge and I feel somewhat sick afterwards. And it's very difficult to get out of that spot too. It sucks being empathic but I'm stuck with it unfortunately.

X just remember that people who argue in forums/ threads more often than not barely know one another from a bar of soap.
I understand some people are emotional/ feel emotion more so than others, however, it is important to realise that the people writing those posts (that leave individuals such as yourself with a bitter aftertaste) may not even be investing that sort of emotion into it in the first place.
A posts something that is offensive to B, B reads it and is offended but A never intended this level of emotion. C reads the same thing and goes "Meh, what was that about?" forgets about it and has a good night's sleep.

What I'm saying is, don't change how you are for anyone else, but be wary of what you invest in - emotionally among other things. I only say this because I used to be slightly more this way inclined too.
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: Flak Master on January 05, 2016, 08:00:24 AM
NOTE: This post of mine was made when I was really tired and should have been sleeping. But I just had to get this off of my chest. I realize it isn't the most coherent thing I ever wrote, but it is what it is.

I haven't gone through nearly as much as darkmanx or any of the other guys this past year, but hoo boy was this last year crazy. First, there's a bunch of drama involved in one of my older brother's relationships that, thankfully, worked itself out and led to him getting married.

Then, I finally took the class that I for the field I was majoring in, but had so much trouble that I had to withdraw from the class lest I risk an F on my academic record, which has sent me down a dark path of questioning what field I want to go into. I am considering programming, but that is not something that I have been working towards. On the bright side, if I can pass this semester, I would have taken all of the classes needed to get my Associate's and possibly transfer to a bigger university, if the finances will allow me to do so. What makes all of this bad is that, outside of chores I do around my parents' house, I have not had an actual 9-5 job ever in my life. What makes it difficult for me to go job searching is that I have a hard time with college as it is, what with having to study as much as you do compared to high school, which takes time out of what could have been me looking for jobs and sending out applications.

Last, but not least, there is this idiot of a "friend" of mine. He wants me to play COD: Zombies All. The. Damn. Time. Even when I have a big test to study for, I get a text, "do you want to play online?" For one thing, I am tired of playing the same maps over and over, and I also am tired of him as well. He is unwilling to compromise and play something else, and he will make excuses about why he won't do something, and, when I accuse him of doing so, he accuses me back of being judgmental, when he was judgmental over me wearing a shirt over to his house that he didn't like. This wasn't some shirt that was shaky or anything; it was just a picture of Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare. However, since this friend of mine is a Treyarch and Xbox fanboy, he will do whatever he can to tick me off if I don't agree with him about everything.

Another thing I had going on this last year was me building a gaming PC, and he did not like that due to him wanting me to get the Xbox One. For what, you may ask? Call of Duty Black Ops 3, a game with system requirements that he could afford more easily than I could. (the game is not demanding at all) He has two part time jobs, where as I had to go and practically sell all of the systems and games that I had to get the PC put together that I am using right now to type all of this. If he wants to accuse anyone of being judgmental, he should be realizing he's no better. But no, he's always right, and I'm wrong. He was so desperate that he bought me an Xbox One even though he said he would not do so. All of this contributes to the latest problem that occurred last night, where I told him that I don't want to play Black Ops 3 until he goes to bed since I had stuff to do when I arrived home, and, not to mention, I had spent my afternoon playing the game with him, and had other games I'd rather play. We got into a heated argument before I left, and, while he thinks I'm his friend, the truth is, I just want to be done with him. He does not respect me for who I am, and he does not take responsibility for how he treats me. I put up with him ever since high school and, while I enjoyed being around him then, it just pissed me off to no end when I started going to college how he just didn't care for my goals and what it takes to accomplish them.

Throughout all of this, I just wish I had someone who was willing to accept me for who I was, and not criticize me destructively for what I am not. Not to mention, my big goal in life right now is getting a job so I can get a consistent stream of income for myself so that way I can be financially independent of my parents and do some of the things that I really want to do. But when you have friends from your high school days that don't mature, classes that you thought you could pass being much harder than anticipated, and unnecessary drama, I just about lost it at times near the end of 2015 in particular.

I apologize for this long post.
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: darkmanx_429 on January 05, 2016, 08:41:27 AM
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First off, he doesn't sound like a true friend. Let me give you some advice, it doesn't get easier when you get older so you need to be particular about the social relationships you make with so call friends and find loyal friends.

Case in point, I recently let go a childhood friend of 25 years.

Not to go into super detail , but when you mature you start noticing things you might not paid mind when you were younger. For me I noticed that not only was he extremely cheap (which I really didn't care about), but he was a selfish friend and looking back on it he was always this way.

The other thing was that he was still stuck in the past. A past I didn't care to revisit or harp on.

When you mature and become more career oriented, you may find that you don't want to harp on what happened back in High School. (Which his whole life revolves around 4 years, twenty something years ago.) When you start getting degrees, and trying to better yourself worrying about your career, you find that those same people that you may have been cool with are still doing the same shit you were doing in school and you may find out that you guys don't have anything in common anymore.

EDIT:  Soooo, for people that read my initial post about getting stood up on New Year's Eve check this shit out, this particular female that I met online actually messaged me! 4 days later none the less!

She says hi and she just wanted to apologize about not getting back with me after trying to meet and that she had intentions to wanting to meet and didn't. (No shit.)

She then goes on to say sorry, and then hopes all is well with me and to new beginnings!

I don't plan to nor didn't even respond to her text.

All I know she could have dumped me to go out with some other guy and now that didn't work she could just be trying to use me as her plan B. I dunno if this is actually the case but I already have an over active imagination. lol

What do you guys think about this turn of events?



Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: zangetsu468 on January 05, 2016, 09:38:15 AM
Last, but not least, there is this idiot of a "friend" of mine. He wants me to play COD: Zombies All. The. Damn. Time. Even when I have a big test to study for, I get a text, "do you want to play online?" For one thing, I am tired of playing the same maps over and over, and I also am tired of him as well. He is unwilling to compromise and play something else, and he will make excuses about why he won't do something, and, when I accuse him of doing so, he accuses me back of being judgmental, when he was judgmental over me wearing a shirt over to his house that he didn't like. This wasn't some shirt that was shaky or anything; it was just a picture of Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare. However, since this friend of mine is a Treyarch and Xbox fanboy, he will do whatever he can to tick me off if I don't agree with him about everything.

Another thing I had going on this last year was me building a gaming PC, and he did not like that due to him wanting me to get the Xbox One. For what, you may ask? Call of Duty Black Ops 3, a game with system requirements that he could afford more easily than I could. (the game is not demanding at all) He has two part time jobs, where as I had to go and practically sell all of the systems and games that I had to get the PC put together that I am using right now to type all of this. If he wants to accuse anyone of being judgmental, he should be realizing he's no better. But no, he's always right, and I'm wrong. He was so desperate that he bought me an Xbox One even though he said he would not do so. All of this contributes to the latest problem that occurred last night, where I told him that I don't want to play Black Ops 3 until he goes to bed since I had stuff to do when I arrived home, and, not to mention, I had spent my afternoon playing the game with him, and had other games I'd rather play. We got into a heated argument before I left, and, while he thinks I'm his friend, the truth is, I just want to be done with him. He does not respect me for who I am, and he does not take responsibility for how he treats me. I put up with him ever since high school and, while I enjoyed being around him then, it just pissed me off to no end when I started going to college how he just didn't care for my goals and what it takes to accomplish them.

Throughout all of this, I just wish I had someone who was willing to accept me for who I was, and not criticize me destructively for what I am not. Not to mention, my big goal in life right now is getting a job so I can get a consistent stream of income for myself so that way I can be financially independent of my parents and do some of the things that I really want to do. But when you have friends from your high school days that don't mature, classes that you thought you could pass being much harder than anticipated, and unnecessary drama, I just about lost it at times near the end of 2015 in particular.

^This chunk of text^ curiously was the longest you've posted, the rest was relatively short.
Strange thing is that this part of the text, well these aren't real problems I'm afraid. You have an obnoxious friend.. Make another one, or whip this one like he's stolen something. Your job/ college situation is much more important, I'd focus on those elements instead. One day if you're ever unemployed, living in poverty or homeless and jobless (God/ causality forbid) your friend won't mean shit, and you won't mean shit to them. They will continue to live their life and take zero responsibility for yours. Be aware.
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: zangetsu468 on January 05, 2016, 09:46:18 AM

EDIT:  Soooo, for people that read my initial post about getting stood up on New Year's Eve check this shit out, this particular female that I met online actually messaged me! 4 days later none the less!

She says hi and she just wanted to apologize about not getting back with me after trying to meet and that she had intentions to wanting to meet and didn't. (No shit.)

She then goes on to say sorry, and then hopes all is well with me and to new beginnings!

I don't plan to nor didn't even respond to her text.

All I know she could have dumped me to go out with some other guy and now that didn't work she could just be trying to use me as her plan B. I dunno if this is actually the case but I already have an over active imagination. lol

What do you guys think about this turn of events?
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"No shit" Lol that's hilarious to me :)

I feel you dude, I'm happily involved with someone and have been for the last 3 years. The end of last year and beginning of this year I've been contacted by 2 girls I was supposed to meet online.... Only that was 5 FUCKIN YEARS AGO lmao. How the hell they still had my email and number, I have no fucking clue tbh.

Must be the year of "Regret" for some. Oh well in the words of Prince Vegeta "A lesson learned too late".

I'd wait like a month or two and just msg her back for shits and gigs. But nah, really though I wouldn't fuck with a chick that stood me up because in reality it screams "I had somewhere better to be". Not that I know you but you seem like an honest guy, if you're being true to yourself then I would think you deserve that too, at least.

EDIT: Fuck, sorry for the double post guys, thought it was another thread (it's late here :-X)
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: X on January 05, 2016, 11:05:27 AM
Flak Master@ This friend of yours sounds like a borderline sociopath to me. He wants people to like him and expects them to agree with everything he says or likes. If not then he throws a fit relating to that of a child. He's got a severe ego problem resting on his shoulders and nothing short of whipping his ass till it bleeds isn't going to change him anytime soon. Get rid of him. It's not healthy and you could do much better then have him as a friend. It's going to be very difficult or it could be very easy, but you must tell him that unless he shapes up, he's no-longer welcome in your life. You are the most important person in your life. You want to get on with your life and have a career. Others around you need to know this, and to recognize it. This so-called friend of yours doesn't recognize this and doesn't care either. Cut him off.

darkmanx_429@ She could be playing with you, she might not be playing with you. But considering how she didn't make the effort to tell you she couldn't make it to the get-together that was planned, shows a lack of responsibility on her part. And it has been 4 days. You need to sit down with her and have a conversation like adults. This should help you get a better grasp on her as a person. If anything comes up that raises red flags then politely tell her you're not interested. You could also make a deal with her too. That if she isn't going to be responsible about dating you then the relationship will end right then and there. Go with your instincts bro.
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: Mooning Freddy on January 05, 2016, 01:33:28 PM
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All I know she could have dumped me to go out with some other guy and now that didn't work she could just be trying to use me as her plan B. I dunno if this is actually the case but I already have an over active imagination. lol

Didn't go all that way yet, but already met a woman who answered several of my messages and offered to talk on facebook, so I agreed and added her as a friend. Then messaged her and she didn't respond. (even though facebook told me she read the message and saw she was active) Messaged again, again no response. So several days later, unfriended her. After about a week, sends me another friend request. wtf? lol, rejected obviously.
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: darkmanx_429 on January 09, 2016, 10:50:39 AM
Hello guys, so this last week for me has been a little stressful as you may know I have been out of school the last 5 months and my first day was Tuesday. All new crew, there is only 1 student that I originally started with left and he is on month 10. (Go figure.)So he only has 2 months left.

The program is scrambling to find a place for me as I am coming in and quite frankly everyone else has been with each other for the last 5 months and got their connections and such. You guys know how that is trying to come in as the black sheep. Even though I have industry experience and game credits since attending school, I am basically trying to come in as a Producer on the Production Track so they are trying to make a place for me.

I basically refuse to work on anyone else's projects for the next 8 months. (I have already gone above and beyond to get game credits from school and on my on personal time freelancing. I have several video game ideas and high concepts flushed out ready to go and just need a team of serious talented bodies.

At this point I am just trying to do my thing and stay positive with all the mess I have going on in the background.

UPDATE: So back to topic, after carefully weighing my options after reading everyone's opinions of that woman hitting me back, I decided to give her another go. Of course I was going to be much smarter about it this time..lol (I normally wouldn't of did this, but she is cute..)

I waited a couple of days to respond to her apology and even then was very brief. Amazingly, she went so far as to call and I didn't pick up right away. To make a long story short I gave her as little attention as possible and she went stir crazy hitting me back up until finally we had some meaningful text and then she asked if I would call her and we had actual conversation.

Well since last week, we have been talking on a regular basis and she even sends me pictures of her and such. We still haven't had a chance to have a re-date (we may actually do it today) as her family is in town. She even made me a video today like I didn't believe her! (Which is good.) Since we have been talking she always sends me a good morning greeting when she is up and about. (Which is nice. I never got that before in any relationship.)

Now also after listening to all you guys I did some serious research on some of those online dating apps and adjusted my profile accordingly. (I didn't even know you could or people were basically hacking those systems to cheat to get more matches..this is a thing? lol) but basically, I just was myself and added a ton of positivity to my profiles. Now I have women that I am talking to in the local area that I have been chatting to. Nothing serious yet, but it's nice to have some meaningful conversation with the opposite sex again.

Oh yeah, just recently heard from one of my female classmates that I was in my undergrade with that I had somewhat of a crush on back then. We fooled around, but at the time she was with a BF and such so it didn't go anywhere. What is funny is that when we were talking there was the chance to hook up then but I basically disappeared of the grid and she was dating around but nothing serious. But she laid it out to me and basically told me that she liked me too but was kinda stuck in a situation at the time.(Go Figure)

Anyhow I think it's just funny that all this stuff is happening now, at least the first week of the new year is pretty chill. Like I said I am really concentrating on having more positive aspects in my life and concentrating on my career.

Just giving you guys an update.
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: X on January 09, 2016, 11:26:56 AM
It's good to know that your situation is turning around for the better. But remember--be vigilant. You never know when it will all go south and you'll need a back-up plan in case it does. The last thing you need is to be caught with your pants down over a misunderstanding. Other then that, I wish you luck darkman_429  ;)
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: darkmanx_429 on January 09, 2016, 11:30:17 AM
It's good to know that your situation is turning around for the better. But remember--be vigilant. You never know when it will all go south and you'll need a back-up plan in case it does. The last thing you need is to be caught with your pants down over a misunderstanding. Other then that, I wish you luck darkman_429  ;)

No doubt X, my Spidey Sense is always up. Thanks!

Didn't go all that way yet, but already met a woman who answered several of my messages and offered to talk on facebook, so I agreed and added her as a friend. Then messaged her and she didn't respond. (even though facebook told me she read the message and saw she was active) Messaged again, again no response. So several days later, unfriended her. After about a week, sends me another friend request. wtf? lol, rejected obviously.

She sounds like an attention whore. What does she think your just there for her FB Likes? SMH
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: Bloodreign on January 12, 2016, 12:06:23 AM
2015 was the year I hit the dreaded age of 40, felt like shit that entire day, not sick, just down. I'm over it though, but the years seem to be flying by faster and faster now. And you guys seem to stay the same age. ;)
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: Shiroi Koumori on January 12, 2016, 12:57:52 AM
2015 was the year I hit the dreaded age of 40, felt like shit that entire day, not sick, just down. I'm over it though, but the years seem to be flying by faster and faster now. And you guys seem to stay the same age. ;)

Oh don't think about that, as some people would say, life begins at 40.
Or just use this as motivation:
"I'm not 40. I'm 18 with 22 years experience."
Then you'll forever be 18!  ;)
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: X on January 12, 2016, 01:31:28 AM
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Or just use this as motivation:
"I'm not 40. I'm 18 with 22 years experience."
Then you'll forever be 18!  ;)

LOL! Interesting way of an outlook Shiroi. Part denial, part motivation  ;D
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: darkmanx_429 on January 15, 2016, 07:25:06 AM
UPDATE XXXX: Sooo, well if you have been following my online saga with my "NYE" Stand Up. No surprise after I gave this woman a second chance, whenever we both would have the opportunity to meet up  and do something together she would flak out with some excuse. She even recorded me a video once showing me a video with her sister and then how we could link up later on one weekend, put alas no avail. I didn't respond to her a couple of days after that, wasn't mean or anything.

When I did she told me she was waiting for me to properly ask her out, which I did, admitted she did stand me up, and told me that her availability after work was at 5 and this was a Friday. Hit her up around 7 no response then 8. Finally after some pondering at midnight I sent her a text with three simple words: I'm done, bye. I then proceeded to delete all traces of her out of my phone, her pics, vids, messages, all that. I'm not going to be made a sucker a second time after she stood me up on NYE night.

As I may of mentioned before, I had been talking to some other women in convo through the app some which started to text me, but guess what? none never wanted to meet (even the ones that were so called interested) or wanted to take a ridiculous amount of "baby steps" before a meet up. (I mean what's the point for even online dating if the goal is not to at least go out on a dates?)There were alot of women that I chatted too and then just never heard anything back from again even in mid conversations.

So with that mentioned and the fact that it's always a daily battle with me to have more positivity than negativity anyways I have decided to delete ALL dating apps from my life.
It didn't take me long to get rid of them. I didn't like how they made me feel and the abundance of self entitled, absorbed, shallow, and unattractive desperate women was not a hill I wanted to die on.

I think I tried them out for a total of 2 weeks and to be honest I found out everything I needed to know after that initial week. I believe that at least in regards to Western women most of these women on these sites have absurd (and unrealistic) criteria for males, unattractive women use them to date outside their league (and yes I know how that sounds) because of the endless drove of thirsty men that don't care about standards, and the remaining women on that site are attention whores that just want a male to basically lick their @$$ clean and not serious about dates or anything. Smh

I find it sad that women on these kinds of sites can judge men all day till the cows come home and still not be satisfied, but yet if a general reasonable male calls them out on their bs then it's oh," he's just hurt", "he has no game"," boring or a loser", "just can't take rejection well" etc. If you don't act like a douche guy (which all women like to claim that they don't want on those sites) and respond to an attractive female tactful and respectfully then instead of ignoring you, you may get a passive dismissive response but if you read between the lines it's always belittling the male in the guise of trying to let you off easy. Because how dare that you approach them because you may find some interests in them. Smh

Anyways, rant over. Just wanted to post my feelings about online dating being how it was the first time and all. I wouldn't recommend it at all to the decent, normal, respectfully male. I would recommend it to all the players, douches, sugar daddy's and Christian Grey's (laughable) out there though.
Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: zangetsu468 on January 15, 2016, 08:09:42 AM
@Darkmanx I just would like to offer you some advice, that is so long as you'd like to accept it.

Man, I know exactly how you feel about all the online dating/ networking stuff.
I went through a long patch on and off where I used it, and 90% of the time it didn't feel great.
At times I felt like people were making me feel like shit, some people were a bit fucked in the head themselves, and some had wayyy unrealistic expectations which could be seen from a mile away (reading the first 3 lines of their profile, you know those are trouble..)
Other times I met people, it was fine and it didn't last, but it ran its course.
At one point I had so much disdain for online anything that I deleted my facebook account, and I was much happier for it.

However, I will say this especially about the italicised part above. The only person responsible for how I felt was 'Me'.
In truth nobody made me feel like shit but myself. I felt like it was other people because I was probably in a place of self discovery, maybe not truly knowing what I was expecting or not being totally ready or open to what life had in store for me next.
I'm not saying everyone is exactly like me as people are all hardwired differently, all I'm saying is "don't let the bastards grind you down."
Don't sweat the small stuff; you miss a bus you catch a train or a cab, a woman doesn't text you - another will be calling you at some point.

I see some frustration toward specific situations re: online, but the one thing that IS a plus with it is putting yourself out there in the first place, so good on you for doing that. Hey, if it's not for you at least you gave it a shot. It may or may not serve you down the track if you choose to use it again. It's always an option. (Not sure which apps you were using, but I always found oasis or rsvp worked the best and had the most normal women.)

All I'm saying is mate, there are decent people out there. It sucks when there don't seem to be any but don't focus on those aspects because if someone stands you up for one night (even being NYE) you can spend an hour thinking about it or one week, but you have to ask yourself, what emotional dividends or other is this gaining me? After all, you only get in what you put out. when you train at the gym, you wouldn't focus on not getting results because no matter how much you lift nobody and I mean nobody is getting results with negative mindsets. As an example, The other way to think about it is: This woman stood me up, Thank GOD!! She saved me dating her for a year to find out she was aloof."  ;D

Anyways hang in there man, online or not you will find your way. CVDungeonites are all on the same team here, and by that I mean Team Charlie Sheen ("Winning" not AIDS) :-X

Peace

Title: Re: Fuck 2015
Post by: darkmanx_429 on January 15, 2016, 10:43:06 AM
@Darkmanx I just would like to offer you some advice, that is so long as you'd like to accept it.

Man, I know exactly how you feel about all the online dating/ networking stuff.
I went through a long patch on and off where I used it, and 90% of the time it didn't feel great.
At times I felt like people were making me feel like shit, some people were a bit fucked in the head themselves, and some had wayyy unrealistic expectations which could be seen from a mile away (reading the first 3 lines of their profile, you know those are trouble..)
Other times I met people, it was fine and it didn't last, but it ran its course.
At one point I had so much disdain for online anything that I deleted my facebook account, and I was much happier for it.

However, I will say this especially about the italicised part above. The only person responsible for how I felt was 'Me'.
In truth nobody made me feel like shit but myself. I felt like it was other people because I was probably in a place of self discovery, maybe not truly knowing what I was expecting or not being totally ready or open to what life had in store for me next.
I'm not saying everyone is exactly like me as people are all hardwired differently, all I'm saying is "don't let the bastards grind you down."
Don't sweat the small stuff; you miss a bus you catch a train or a cab, a woman doesn't text you - another will be calling you at some point.

I see some frustration toward specific situations re: online, but the one thing that IS a plus with it is putting yourself out there in the first place, so good on you for doing that. Hey, if it's not for you at least you gave it a shot. It may or may not serve you down the track if you choose to use it again. It's always an option. (Not sure which apps you were using, but I always found oasis or rsvp worked the best and had the most normal women.)

All I'm saying is mate, there are decent people out there. It sucks when there don't seem to be any but don't focus on those aspects because if someone stands you up for one night (even being NYE) you can spend an hour thinking about it or one week, but you have to ask yourself, what emotional dividends or other is this gaining me? After all, you only get in what you put out. when you train at the gym, you wouldn't focus on not getting results because no matter how much you lift nobody and I mean nobody is getting results with negative mindsets. As an example, The other way to think about it is: This woman stood me up, Thank GOD!! She saved me dating her for a year to find out she was aloof."  ;D

Anyways hang in there man, online or not you will find your way. CVDungeonites are all on the same team here, and by that I mean Team Charlie Sheen ("Winning" not AIDS) :-X

Peace

Nan, advice is always good man.

That Charlie Sheen thing made me laugh.

You do have a point about being responsible for how you feel, but it still doesn't help if when like you said other people make you feel like crap. Yes, you may get over it but is still rubs you the wrong way.

And you are right about sweating the small stuff, that's why I decided to delete all that.

I haven't heard of RSVP or Oasis so if I do decide to try back on online dating I will take a look at those but it won't be anytime soon.