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Re: Help! SOTN question needs an answer
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2011, 01:07:38 PM »
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I know they have some resistance to cut, but this is ridiculous.  I have another enemy to add to the list - Catobeplas.  Anyways, here are his current stats.  Despite these stats, the final guards only take 7 damage, and Catobeplas takes a mere 1 damage !!!
Can someone plz study these photos and see if anything looks amiss?
(Sorry one of the photos is blurry, but he is at level 51 in case you can't see)

From what i can see in the pictures, his attack is very low, try the equipment i mentioned above and see what happens. Try ring of varda, ring of ares, king stone or ring of feanor. Also, i don't remember any enemy on the game with that name Catobeplas??? Maybe you mean Gorgon??? He is also high resistant to cut attacks, especially from the front. Try attacking him from behind and see what happens!!!
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Re: Help! SOTN question needs an answer
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2011, 05:22:42 PM »
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His attack is almost the same as mine, the difference is minimal, and my swords are doing much much more damage than his.  And..catobeplas?  am I thinking of the same enemy but different game?  I must be, if you knew what I was talking about.
Is it because my game is a replay?  I know I had Ring of Varda during the part with final guards, but is that enough to make my attack do over 60 damage while his does just 3-6 ?

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Re: Help! SOTN question needs an answer
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2011, 08:01:08 PM »
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Ring Of Varda gives all your stats a large boost: +40 strength, +35 defense, +30 intelligence, and +15 luck. That i believe is enough to make a difference!!!
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Re: Help! SOTN question needs an answer
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2011, 08:20:17 PM »
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Opium,  try equipping the following:
dragon's helm
twilight cloak
ring of varda

These should help.  The ring of varda gives you a significant boost to all stats and the dragon's helm increases your attack by 5.  Plus, according to its description, it lowers the enemy's defense.  You (or your friend) has the stone mask equipped to the head.  I'm starting to think the reason you are doing so little damage to those enemies is because you don't have the dragon's helm equipped.

Oh, and to all of you who don't know what catobeplas is, I think Opium was talking about that stone bull monster in the Black Marble Gallery near where the Guardians are located.  They're actually called gorgon if memory serves.
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Re: Help! SOTN question needs an answer
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2011, 09:53:23 PM »
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Opium I tried your friend's setup and had the same result. I did about 1 damage to Gorgon ad 7 damages to the final guards. I tried removing the accessories(Necklace of J and Nauglamir) with the same result.After a while I unequipped the stone mask and I could do normal damages again. Darkwzrd4 is right. It's the stone mask.
It's supposed to boost Intelligence and Defense. It's not supposed to  affect your attack power though. Is it a bug or something? Or are these enemies strong against some element that might be present in the Stone mask ? If you look at the bestiary you'll see that the Gorgon is strong against Fire, Stone, Cut and hit. The final guard is strong against Cut ,Fire, Ice, Thunder and absorbs Dark. Not sure which one is added by the Stone Mask, but either way at this point of the game you better use the Dragon's helm or Wizard hat. They're by far the best head gear you can get in the game. Hope I could help.
Btw I encountered this problem while playing the Japanese version.
EDIT: OK so I tried equipping the stone mask with Muramasa and i could do normal damages. It's not the stone mask. These enemies are strong against Cut, so any sword like Crissaegrim or even Rune Sword won't do much damage. The final guards are immune to Fire. If you equip the Firebrand it makes a clinging sound and the word Guard appears on the final guard. Again at this point of the game it is better to equip stronger armor and weapons and a ring of varda if you have one , if you don't want to spend too much time on those enemies.
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Re: Help! SOTN question needs an answer
« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2011, 05:54:19 AM »
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I've used the crissaegrim on the aforementioned enemies in the past many times and they all went down within a few seconds. Even if I un-equip my rings of Varta I still defeated them easy. It has to be a bug in the disk or something that's causing this issue. Not all disk copies record perfectly.
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Re: Help! SOTN question needs an answer
« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2011, 01:23:14 PM »
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I've used the crissaegrim on the aforementioned enemies in the past many times and they all went down within a few seconds. Even if I un-equip my rings of Varta I still defeated them easy. It has to be a bug in the disk or something that's causing this issue. Not all disk copies record perfectly.

I was about to say that I'm retarded for misjudging what a difference varda made, and I must have simply forgotten how strong those enemies were since the last time I played a fresh game, until I read this. 

I don't know wtf to think now.  Is there nothing wrong with the game and my memory is just failing me on how it's supposed to be? - or is this something that certainly isn't right and I just can't figure out what the problem is?  Knowing how code runs, I tend to disbelieve that it's a 'bug' which behaves so specifically yet is unknown up until now.

At any rate, we're both finished with our games now and we're moving on.  Super Mario Land 3D is where it's at until Sunday, then Skyward Sword.  I'm just gonna tuck this issue away until the next time I dust off SotN.
« Last Edit: November 15, 2011, 01:25:02 PM by Opium »

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