Topic: The power of humans and Alucard's unknown potential

[Thomas Belmont]

And if Alucard was able to defeat Dracula at full strength, there would have been no need for Trevor to intervene in the first place. The Belmonts could have retired. Alucard would have been the one to go up against his father every time he resurrected. However, of course, that's not the case. And Alucard even told Trevor that he needed his help to defeat Dracula after Trevor beat him. Even with hundreds of years of experience, Alucard is no match for a Belmont or Dracula at full strength.

[Hypocrates]

While there is no official reason for me to think this and it's pure speculation, I like to think that Hammer is a descendant of Grant.

In DoS, Hammer was supposed to fill the Grant role for the CV3 inspired extra mode.  Hammer would have been the odd man out in that if he had no relation.  Yoko is a Belnades, descended from Sypha (Or her family, anyway), Julius is a Belmont, Alucard is, well, Alucard so he's the same exact person.  If Hammer were descended from Grant, that would not only explain why he would be part of the group, but also explain how he survived the castle.


Of course, he wasn't in the final product, and it's possible that him not making sense/not being related was part of why he didn't make it in as a playable character.  But I like to think it was just cut for time and he was supposed to be related to Grant.



I also sometimes like to look at the difficulty of CotM and OoE as being because they're [more or less] ordinary people aided by magic and not super powered Belmonts and Belnades and such.  Other times I think Nathan just beat Dracula with his Yu-Gi-Oh skills.  Heart of the Cards and all that.

[Phoenix7786]

  But I like to think it was just cut for time and he was supposed to be related to Grant.

That's probably the case. Rippers have found Hammer's dialogue in the text dump indicating he was supposed to have joined. Although I don't know if they looked through the audio files.

Julius : You. Why are you here?
Hammer: Why? I'm here for Soma! My man's in trouble, I tell ya!
Julius: But it's of no concern to you.
Hammer: Heck yeah, it is! Soma's my pal, after all. Laying his life on the line for a pal... That's what a man does.
Julius : Wrong. An ordinary human is no match for a foe like this. Being a man has nothing to do with it.
Hammer: Hey, bud, I served in the military! I know weapons a whole lot better than you! And I'd like to think I've got enough sense to retreat if it gets too crazy.
Julius : Fine, then. But if you ever fear for your life, get out immediately, understood?
Hammer: Loud and clear. You have my word.

[TheCruelAngel]

And here I  thought Hammer was just a badass who didn't give a frak. Being a descendant of the Danesti family would be pretty winsome though...

[Neobelmont]

Well you can't deny the fact that he managed to defeat him alone, even though he wasn't on full power. Trevor had to bring 3 other allies in order to defeat Dracula. I think this makes Alucard even more badass, especially if you take into consideration that he helped Trevor in Dracula's curse.
Oh and don't forget that if Alucard somehow didn't use the goggles given by Maria, he wouldn't have been able to see Shaft's orb, so he would have been forced to take out Richter.
If the Belmonts need the help of other warriors like the Belnades or the Lecarde family, or even Alucard, in order to defeat Dracula, then maybe they're not that supreme as we might think. Games like Simon's quest, and SOTN, have showed us that Belmonts are humans, and as such they can suffer a curse, or be controlled by a Dark priest. Julius even suffered from amnesia. They're humans, so they have weaknesses, and sometimes they need the help of other warriors,as it has been showed in Dracula's curse, and maybe in the 1999 game, if it ever comes out.

well yeah but also games like cv cva cvbr also showed us that belmonts can take dracula by themself's out in fact in the cv chronicles instruction manual was it not said that it has been at least 100 years or something since dracula(dracula is suppose to be at full when it's 100 years right?) was around that and something about easter day while cva/br showed Christoper beating him not once but twice in his much later years.

  Other times I think Nathan just beat Dracula with his Yu-Gi-Oh skills.  Heart of the Cards and all that.

Now I wish that if konami made a remake the god cards should be there or at least a blue-eyes white dragon

[Lelygax]

It's a part of what makes Castlevania, Castlevania. It just wouldn't be nearly as interesting or epic if any one person (say a drunken bum off the streets) could march right up to Dracula's castle, conquer it and then Kill Dracula himself.

That would be a interesting plot for a fangame, imagine the bum throwing baptized water as a sub-weapon and a old bread that is hard as a rock to attack. Castlevania: Chant of Misery. xD

[Mathias_The_Resolute]

You can't simply underestimate Alucard's power. You have to take in consideration of his powers, but he would most definitely lose to Richter if he was at full strenght and even Dracula at full power but I always like to think he has a slim chance against richter given the fact that he can change into mist to dodge his HYDRO STORM!! or Grand Cross, but then again Richter is the one with more abilities even Physical considering Alucard has lesser powers, Hellfire? Richter can simply Backflip from the flames. Soul Steal? No way. I doubt it would be able to steal a soul of a human, Tetra Spirits? Richter would use his cross or bible to dispel it so yeah the ONLY thing that could probably save alucard's butt is if he used his mist form to dodge most of belmont's attacks but he would grow tired after using so much that it leaves him fatiqued and BAM Richter gets the killsmack. Now lets not talk about Hero-VS-Hero because that would never happen -_-

[X]

That would be a interesting plot for a fangame, imagine the bum throwing baptized water as a sub-weapon and a old bread that is hard as a rock to attack. Castlevania: Chant of Misery. xD

I'm imagining the bum would use a Molotov cocktail. 

[Mystic Myotis]

I always liked to imagine the Lecarde family were the result of Alucard and Maria's coupling, and then Alucard makes the spear for his child, then goes to take a nap because he's a horrible father figure. 

I've always imagined that the Lecardes were Alucard's and Maria's adopted children, given Alucard's rather dismal opinion of his own blood.

While there is no official reason for me to think this and it's pure speculation, I like to think that Hammer is a descendant of Grant.

I thought so as well, but isn't there a confirmed descendant of Grant in that book sequel to DoS?

It's more likely that Hammer went all Metal Gear Solid in the castle like others have said.



Alucard is powerful; I don't care to get into a debate about whether or not he's stronger than X Belmont, but we've seen him do some pretty impressive stuff both in terms of intelligence and physical feats.  Unlike the Belmonts, he isn't restricted by time; he's almost certainly progressed in every respect.  He's undeniably much more powerful and skilled than he was in the 1470's, where, if I'm doing my math right, he was not very old all things considered.  As to whether or not he has untapped power from his human side... eh.  I think Alucard's human side is supposed to manifest most strongly in his personality/decisions rather than his physical skills, though it's worth noting that he can use holy items.