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I'm wondering why Dave's and the @CLOS Twitter pages have been so inactive.  :-X
because LoS is over and there's nothing left to market or talk about. From now on time to look at Konami in general for this stuff, or the Castlevania twitter if there is one.
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Not to mention LoS2 has got to be one of the biggest failures in the franchise history. It probably had the biggest budget but so far it is one of the worst selling Castlevania games ever. That is a bad combination. Dave Cox is probably embaressed.

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Not to mention LoS2 has got to be one of the biggest failures in the franchise history. It probably had the biggest budget but so far it is one of the worst selling Castlevania games ever. That is a bad combination. Dave Cox is probably embaressed.
Nice source.
I recall Dave saying that despite selling worse than loS, it was still higher than previous CV titles.

Only 'failure" as far as LoS2 goes, is the mixed reception to stealth elements and the plot.
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Alvarez knows it too, though...maybe that's a good thing.
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Nice source.
I recall Dave saying that despite selling worse than loS, it was still higher than previous CV titles.

Only 'failure" as far as LoS2 goes, is the mixed reception to stealth elements and the plot.
High LAUNCH. Did it had legs? I fucking doubt it.

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It's all hearsay at this point anyways. Do we really need to argue about #s when it's basically Dave Cox vs VG Chartz?

We'll know how well LoS2 fared when we see Konami's next project. If it's a LoS game, in name or style, we can figure LoS2 at least kept execs satiated. If it's something else entirely, I'd imagine that it didn't do well enough to keep execs happy.

Since in the end, that's all that really matters.

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VGChartz may not be an entirely reliable source but they're not so far off that they can't be used for some kind of estimation. If LoS2 sold better than most other Castlevanias in the past, what is VGChartz getting their numbers from? Why did they get LoS1 reasonably right, but missed all those supposed sales of LoS2? I find it very hard to believe that LoS2 outsold other recent CVs, even if may very well have performed slightly better than they're saying.

But yeah, I am very interested to see the "real" sales figures. If my source is bad, fine. But I noone is proving me wrong either.

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But yeah, I am very interested to see the "real" sales figures. If my source is bad, fine. But I noone is proving me wrong either.
Your source is terrrible, they make up numbers, then they get "corrected" each time the NPD results come in each month, then they make up the next month again. Sorry but VGChartz is not only trash, it's less than that. There's a reason why they are BANNED from neogaf and of course evry news site.


High LAUNCH. Did it had legs? I fucking doubt it.
They are selling lots of weird merchandise of it (bags, clothes, etc) I think it did OK otherwise there would be no point of spending more money  to sell things no one would buy.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2014, 10:34:58 AM by Ahasverus »

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We'll know how well LoS2 fared when we see Konami's next project. If it's a LoS game, in name or style, we can figure LoS2 at least kept execs satiated. If it's something else entirely, I'd imagine that it didn't do well enough to keep execs happy.
Not entirely true. They can decide to continue the game simply based on the first game numbers and try to make a new game more like that one, which sold well. Or even another reason altogether... it's their call.

VGChartz are completely unreliable. There's nothing right there, they don't get the data from the stores, how the hell they know the numbers? They even admit themselves they simply take the numbers from their asses.
They update them when some information from NPD (who actually HAVE data from stores) or from the game company itself, but it's still a pretty shitty place to get numbers from.

In Neogaf, they posted some estimatives for LoS2 and it was a disaster in terms of sales.  Europe was the same thing. And these big games sales are, usually, pretty frontloaded (unless you're Call of Duty, Pokemon, Battlefield, Fifa, etc). But since we don't know the budget, we don't really know if it was good enough for them to make a profit.

But I doubt this game budget was low, at all.
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Regardless, anyone who's taking Cox's word on sales figures is fooling themselves. Dude seems to say what he can to make his games look good and appears to be brazenly full of himself.

And WTF is this thread even about, exactly? Developer shows picture of one of their ports, THEY'RE DOING THE NEXT CASTLEVANIA.
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Alvarez knows it too, though...maybe that's a good thing.

Oh no way.

He totally blames everyone else for not "getting" his grand beautiful vision. He thinks LoS2 is flawless.

Because that's how it goes with egomaniacs.

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