Topic: Finally played Sotn, personal conclusions...

[Giz]

Will you stop making up pointless, meaningless and unfounded percentages for every single post you make? It's rather annoying.

[Clara E. Leet]

In Reply To #15

Yet... you yourself are blinded by nostalgia with the N64 games, therefore making your argument invalid. If you had played SotN in place of N64 as a child, your opinion would be flipflopped.

[The Last Belmont]

I remember when I was younger I had a sega genesis and I always wished I had a super nintendo because I was convinced mortal kombat 2 was better on super. When I finally got a super nintendo in my late teens, late 90's, I realized that it was better on the genesis all along.

I'll get to symphony of the night, just wait a second. Mortal kombat 2 ran faster on the genesis even though the graphics are more washed out. It also has a darker soundtrack on genesis.

When I got my next system after the super nintendo I got a N64. So instead of playing Symphony of the Night, I played the 64 vania's.

I thought the same thing then, Symphony of the night must be amazing since everyone talked about it, and nothing or negative things were said about the 64 vania's.

After finally getting Sotn, and playing through it twice I feel as if I always had the best castlevania game, and I never even knew it. NOT Sotn, but the 64 vania's, the games that I played as a teenager. The games that I put 300 plus hours on, and couldn't get enough of.

Sure Sotn is great.... Not really. Wonderful music in the first castle, terrible music in the second. Beautifully drawn castle, but bland character drawings. Lackluster and monotonous game balance. Very functional yet unattractive menus. Completely terrible story. Reinhardt's story and Carrie's story is so much better.

I spent 25 hours on Sotn, and if I never play the game again I'm fine with it, though I would like to listen to the soundtrack from time to time, it does have some lovely music.

After 300 plus hours on the 64 games, I am still looking forward to playing them after only 10 months I feel compelled to buy a Nintendo 64 and a copy of CV 64.

I believe their was a perfect storm of negative elements that could explain why the 64 vania's got the shaft. They have wonderful gothic design in both level colors and character designs. A very interesting and unique story. And more important, I always got the impression that the development team really put their soul into the game, regardless of their lack of pushing the processing power of the system.

It really all comes down to preference. The 64 vanias were done in the oldschool style that prioritized action, hard difficulty as well as some new puzzles and twists to go along and the return of the day/night system (more realistic this time) from simon's quest. SOTN to me has always been incredibly easy. I would like the 64 vanias more if the controls were decent. I just can't get used to using the N64's joystick for those 2 games, it's too sensitive. I have to say I like symphony more than those 2 but the older games excluding those 2 are all better than symphony in my opinion.

In Reply To #1

Your problem here is the exact same as everyone that played SoTN when it was new. Cept your the exact opposite. You played the N64 CVs when you were younger and they were newer while most everyone either played only SoTN or both and at the time SoTN really WAS leaps and bounds ahead of the N64 ones.

You have the nostalgia factor workin for you with the N64 ones but you never felt any of that for SoTN cause it was new to you when you played it... what? 12 years late?

Its the same reason almost no one can go back now and play the N64 ones if they never played em then.

SoTN is still the better game tho regardless of how or who or why nostalgia clouds ppls perspectives

Well Symphony and the ones that follow in it's path are really completely different games. It all comes down to if you like the classic style or the metroidvania style better.

[Thunderbrand]

I like all 3 games very much actually.

I think SoTN is the superior game, based largely on it's fantastic gameplay and graphics. The score is also the best in the entire series. Storywise it's good too, as a direct sequel to DraculaX. Plus, the sheer AMOUNT of weapons/armor/items you can find is incredible. Trying to hunt down the most rare items in the game is half the fun. Sure...it gets almost too easy once your character gets strong enough, but getting to that point and having basically free-range to explore the castle is a blast!

As for the N64 games...they might not be earth-shattering but they are a lot of fun too and have great atmosphere. Reinhardt and Cornell are cool characters and fun to play. I'm not the biggest fan of Carrie, but Henry's little side quest is fun. The gameplay & graphics weren't the greatest, but the game had a real strong, dark "feel" to it and the music was excellent I thought. Overall 2 very solid games.

[PFG9000]

Can we ban this douche already?  I couldn't care less that his opinion differs from mine, but his haughty attitude and his insults aren't welcome.

Oh, and he likes Manhunt.

[A n t r a x x]

In Reply To #15

You're free to leave, you know. Anytime, actually.

We're not holding you here.

Anyone that's going to tell me to write something more in the interest of what they want to read, is not welcome here IMO. You have copped an attitude over this game that is uncalled for.

We like SotN, deal with it or get out.

Man, I thought you were cooler than this, when I first met you, but I was mistaken.

[The Last Belmont]

The game is broken in difficulty.

No it's not. It's easier then the games you're talking about because the controls are way too oversensitive. I've played through them maybe twice the whole time I've had them because I love the plot and the atmosphere that's it. SOTN is a great game. One of the best out there and the best to alot of folks. Iga tried to make the game realistic in the sense that you're a creature of the night born with Vampiric Power. And if you don't like the voice acting turn it down and crank something else up. (I don't like the psx voice acting either).

I can see the game as it really is, very flawed, very overated.

Please elaborate. Considering millions of people are playing it all over the world and it's a big hit on Xbox Live. I'm sure all these new people playing it on their Xbox who probably weren't even old enough to hold a controller when it came out are all deluding themselves.

[Aridale]

I think everyone else cleared up the reasons why my "fact" was indeed fact. SoTN is the better game. Even aside from the reasons mentioned its still one of the games that always comes up in "best of" polls and talks regardless of genre or series and the fact that its STILL bein sold in any form is clear indication its the better game

I agree... take your tude elsewhere. We dont say SoTN is the better game cause were fanboys or clouded in anyway we say its the better game cause it is

[Malus]

In Reply To #21

No hard feelings, but I will not be returning to this forum. Their just is not enough people on here that I agree with to make it fun for me to be a member. This is the 3rd forum I've joined after projectmanhunt, and iberiansngrealm, for the game ninja gaiden.

I must say I didn't really enjoy my time here, nor was the effort worth what I put into it.

Sorry if I upset/offended anyone with my blunt and sometimes arrogant writing.

[Malus]

In Reply To #22

Quote from: Malus on July 08, 2009, 07:24:55 PM
The game is broken in difficulty.


No it's not. It's easier then the games you're talking about because the controls are way too oversensitive. I've played through them maybe twice the whole time I've had them because I love the plot and the atmosphere that's it. SOTN is a great game. One of the best out there and the best to alot of folks. Iga tried to make the game realistic in the sense that you're a creature of the night born with Vampiric Power. And if you don't like the voice acting turn it down and crank something else up. (I don't like the psx voice acting either).


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I can see the game as it really is, very flawed, very overated.

Please elaborate. Considering millions of people are playing it all over the world and it's a big hit on Xbox Live. I'm sure all these new people playing it on their Xbox who probably weren't even old enough to hold a controller when it came out are all deluding themselves.


    good argument. Very passionate you obviously love the game. I can see why many people feel the way you do, however I don't feel that way. I tried very hard to feel that way about Sotn, but in the end It just didn't captivate me the way other games in the series have, notably the underated, misunderstood 64 titles.

[crisis]

In Reply To #26

You're the one that made a fool out of yourself in the first place, bashing the community because a few of us debated with you doesn't help your credibility. Too bad, now that you're tucking your tail between your legs and fleeing because you got owned

[crisis]

blah blah i am Malus blah blah

I don't think I'm the one getting passionate about all of this. And guess what? You're not the only adult around here. That lame "i'm more mature than u kidz" line you keep spewing out is pointless, and makes you look even more foolish.

It seems you're making a mountain from a molehill by attacking other peoples topics for no reason, and also their character, all because we enjoy SotN more than your precious CV64? Go back to your manhunt forums already.

[Clara E. Leet]

Hey Malus, don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.

If you say you're gonna leave, then leave. Don't be all "I'm a martyr!" and then stick around to troll and flame. Because that just makes you an hero.

Bye!

That having been said, I don't think there's anything more in this topic to discuss. Go talk about LoS some more or something, guys. Nothing to see here.