Topic: What if...??? in a probable LoS Sequel...

[Mike Belmont]

Well, let´s continue with the 25th Anniversary celebration!!! ...

What if the gameplay, history and ALL elements present in LoS dissapear in the LoS sequel??? I mean, imagine a game with a new Belmont, a new plot, and totally new gameplay, totally different to the LoS one. In simple words, a new reboot. Yeah, I know that it´s crazy, but I don´t have any other thing to think after seen all the LoS story .

Or... what will going to happen to the gameplay and items in the sequel? Like the Combat Cross (TM), the faeries, daggers and holy water. And all the abilities gained along the journey. Will Rinaldo makes all the same stuff again? Or are we going to have a true Vampire Killer, like the old school? All of these, because the protagonist has become the antagonist, or maybe we are going to play with the antagonist, like in the Legacy of Kain saga?

P.D. I have read in one comment, that maybe LoS is Castlevania´s spiritual succesor, like Maximo was to Ghost & Goblins. But, I might be more happy with Lords of Shadow being a standalone game, like the first trailer...

[darkwzrd4]

Well, I think that there will be a game that continues after that cut scene in that modern city.  However, there may be another game that takes place in between.  This storyline could go in many directions.  Anything can happen.

[Chernabogue]

Well, I think that there will be a game that continues after that cut scene in that modern city.  However, there may be another game that takes place in between.  This storyline could go in many directions.  Anything can happen.

This.

[Renonsgoods]

I highly doubt MS is going to abandon Gabriel's saga for the sequel.  I'm thinking they'll deliver a more traditional CV motif by introducing a new Belmont protagonist to go after Drac years or centuries after the events of LoS.  I would also venture the guess that we'll get to see a bit more of the motivations behind Gabe's fall into shadow...and his state of mind after time has gone by.  I can easily see them bringing in Simon as the new hero character, seeing as LoS was originally supposed to feature him as the protagonist...and I think that MS is probably going to want to steer in a direction that more appeases the core fanbase.  Maybe it's all a bit wishful thinking at this point, but I really feel that the LoS sequel will serve to marry the unique origin story of LoS with the legacy of the original timeline.  And provided they do something unique in tying the new Belmont lineage to Gabe, it could all work out quite well.

As far as my thoughts on where the new Belmont lineage should come from...I'll quote an earlier post of mine from the other thread. I've removed the Alucard angle and changed a detail to reflect the events of Resurrection (mind you, I intended this as a backstory rather than as the events of a playable game):



"Gabe has a half brother back with his real Cronqvist family who finds out about him in his formative years.  This brother (let's call him Leon ) becomes furious when he learns that his father abandoned his own bastard child to some random monastery....and goes looking for Gabe.  Leon finds the remnants of the Order and the monks that raised Gabriel.  They tell him of Gabriel's legacy...how he became a great holy warrior and "died" destroying the Lords of Shadow for the sake of all humanity.  Leon, swollen with pride for his brother's accomplishments (and as an act of spite for his father) takes the name Belmont to honor his fallen hero of a brother.  He takes up arms in the name of serving the church, and helps to start rebuilding the Order of Light. 

Years later Leon has married and has a son (or sons).  He meets a long lost high ranking member of the Order who tells him of the vampiric presence that still haunts the hills about the town of Wygol.  This mysterious figure also tells him that the castle overlooking this town is where his brother Gabriel fell during his final battle against the Lords of Shadow.  Leon, naturally, volunteers to venture to this dark castle to try and root out all evil that still roams there........and to perhaps discover the resting place of his lost brother.

Leon journeys to Wygol, and fights his way to the spire of the Dark Keep.  When he arrives, he meets the keep's dark lord.....who only reveals himself as "Dracul".  Dracul recognises Leon's garb, and asks him his name.  When Leon tells him his name is Belmont......Dracul becomes enraged.  Convinced that the Order sent this man (labeled with his old surname as an  insult) to assassinate him, he attacks Leon. The battle is epic and hard fought (with Leon taking quite a pounding), but during the fight something curious happens.  As Drac's anger acts up, some of his power begins to bleed into Leon...apparently the result of TFO's "might" sensing the commonality of Leon and Gabriel's blood.  It turns into a more even fight, with Leon putting some hurt on his half-brother.  But Drac manages to rise to the occasion, his rage breaking his remaining human trappings......allowing him to better utilize his inherited dark powers.  Leon, mortally wounded, abandons his sword...and draws his bull whip, using it to make his escape from the Dark Lord's spire. Little does he know what effect his blood stained onto the whip will have when his son takes up the weapon in his stead years later.  But regardless, Leon manages to inform the Order of the new threat to the region before passing on...his son destined to take up his legacy.

I'm guessing it's best if Gabe doesn't reveal himself to Leon, as it better preserves the hero's motivations where this new "monster" is concerned (and also his views of his fallen brother's exploits).  It's very likely Leon would associate responsibility for Gabe's death with this Dracul character. Plus, it could provide for a really interesting twist in events several games down the line for Drac to reveal himself as the original Belmont to his usurping descendant.  A little bit of psychological warfare, so to speak.  At the same time, having Dracula not know why a bunch of guys bearing his former surname keep cropping up to try and kill him..........could all make for some interesting twists and turns in the saga as well.  Definitely good fuel for building his hate of the Order, the church, and all those they employ.

[Renonsgoods]

And also, I'd like to make my official bid for the design of the next Vampire Killer.  I'd like to see a more traditional style whip, but one with lots of metal bindings along the length (to give it some weight for the heavier attacks), a barb of some kind on the tip, and a retractable blade in the handle (not just a spike)....so it can be used as a short sword at close range.  Yes, I'd like it to be a hybrid of the traditional leather whip and the Combat Cross.  If the sequel is chronologically the next game in this series, I'd love to see the new VK get implemental upgrades as you progress...similar to the Cross in LoS.  Have it start off as the original leather whip in the beginning, with it turning into a gnarly monster ripping device by game's end.

[Ahasverus]

@OP: Not gonna happen

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

Nice story Renon.

That could be a way for the belmonts to reapear into this saga and have a grudge against Dracula (Gabriel).

I just think It would have been better to just have Gabriel stay a belmont and not have Satan at all and instead have Dracula but thats just me.

[Renonsgoods]

Nice story Renon.

That could be a way for the belmonts to reapear into this saga and have a grudge against Dracula (Gabriel).

I just think It would have been better to just have Gabriel stay a belmont and not have Satan at all and instead have Dracula but thats just me.

Definitely agreed.  It's what most of us expected after seeing the early trailers for the game.  I'm just rolling with what we have to work with...attempting a story telling salvage of sorts that could make this new continuity palatable for those of us who want a strong Belmont vs Dracula legacy to look forward to.

[Chernabogue]

I'd see Galamoth or other evil creatures being Dracula's nemesis.

[Munchy]

Throw out the QTEs, wall-shimmying "platforming", generic high fantasy/Hollywood garbage, and I'll be much more interested.

Also actually put Dracula in the game this time.

[Renonsgoods]

generic high fantasy/Hollywood garbage

What does high fantasy have to do with Hollywood?  Are games like TESC Oblivion and Dragon Age considered "generic Hollywood garbage" also, by this definition?  I fail to see where Hollywood comes into play here.  You want to complain about the high fantasy motif or the classical orchestral soundtrack in LoS, that's fine.  But Hollywood has nothing to do with it.

[Flame]

its called people not knowing the difference between different types of fantasy and Lord of the Rings.

thus everything fantasy is "LORD OF THE RINGS HOLLYWOOD FANTASY"

[thernz]

that balore-like ogre was kinda lotr heh

though los was more of a blend between lotr, pan's labyrinth, and clive barker than just lotr alone
and varying influences from other things

but they should really get rid of the qtes. it's pretty stupid when the only interesting things that happen in battle only happen with a qte, like the armor of the forgotten one being smashed. it's just vapid.

[Renonsgoods]

I wouldn't mind the QTE's if they were used to expand upon the combat possibilities rather than to just try to make cutscenes interactive to the player.  I understand why QTE's came into being, but they really need to evolve if they are going to continue to be around. For instance, upon grasping hold of a creature, you could have a choice of 2 or 3 buttons to press that will lead to a different set of actions that could also be further expanded upon with more choices (particularly with bosses).  This would allow for these more unique action sequences to remain in place while allowing the player a choice of how they unfold (kind of like those interactive comics...allow the player to create their own unique series of events within each QTE event, instead of it being pre-determined with the player just getting the activation button timing correct).  Reaction time could still be part of their challenge, but the player would retain control of what happens as a result of these events.

Otherwise...yea, they should just go away and get replaced with a more robust combat system. And regardless, they need to be implemented less frequently.