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WTF!!!: No Dawnguard for PS3 Yet?
« on: August 28, 2012, 08:37:23 PM »
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I know that there are some people on this forum that have and play skyrim.  And, unless you have been living under a rock for the last few months, you know about the Dawnguard DLC for Skyrim.  You would also know the Microsoft paid Bethesda Softworks to make the DLC exclusive to the Xbox360 for 30 days after which it was suppose to come out for PC and PS3.  Well, it's nearly a month since the 30 were up and while the DLC came out for PC on schedule, it hasn't come out for PS3 and there is no release date announced for the release either.  And, on top of that, I stumbled across an add for a second DLC scheduled to be released on September 2 of this year.  And again, that date is for Xbox360 only.  Which means that once again, they get it first.  It's suppose to come out for PC and PS3 as well, but no date has been announced for them.

What pisses me (and probably every other PS3 user) is that not only have we not gotten the first DLC yet, but now a second one has been announced and is going to be released for Xbox360 users before we even get the first one.  Seriously.  Bethesda WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I'm seriously getting the feeling that Microsoft is paying Bethesda to not release Dawnguard.  I mean they paid them for an 30 day exclusive window.   So, why not keep paying them to prevent it being released for PS3.  I can't think of any other reason why Dawnguard was released for the PS3 at the same time it was released for the PC.  And, it's not like Sony has done any fighting for us.

Do any of you feel the rage I feel?  Or, am I just crazy?
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Re: WTF!!!: No Dawnguard for PS3 Yet?
« Reply #1 on: August 28, 2012, 09:01:53 PM »
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You should be grateful for the delay.

Even though us PC owners have received Dawnguard a month after X360 owners, it sure was buggy as hell. At first I couldn't even start the game with it installed. Took an unofficial fix for me to play the blasted DLC without forcing myself to switch the base game's language to English. Quite a nasty surprise. Not to mention that most gameplay bugs from X360 are carried over to the PC version of the addon.

And the main reason Bethesda delayed the PS3 release is to make it a more steady, less buggy experience.

And despite that, they receive rants from people like yourself.

I stopped wondering why they release such buggy games in the first place. They just feel rushed by fans breathing down their necks, saying "release the damn game already!". I'd be almost expecting to see a big studio NOT count with players and just release a buggy product, telling players to go to hell if they don't like it. But no, they keep working to polish the game despite it having been released almost a year ago. Try comparing that to 2K Marin for example with their BioShock 2. They stopped issuing patches for it despite half the bugs remaining in the game and they were insolent enough to claim some bugs were fixed when they obviously weren't. To top it off, the last two patches were there only to make the DLCs work with the game. DLCs that have been initially cancelled and then horribly delayed before finally being released. And even now they're working only for half the playerbase judging from what I'm reading on their forums.

Face it. Sony is a bitch. It's expensive to publish games on their console, it's expensive to release downloadable content and patches for their console. You get less shots than with Microsoft, so you have to do it right. PC, X360 -- we're all gonna receive patches for both Skyrim and Dawnguard eventually. PS3's.... they might not be so lucky to receive as many patches so any product released there, including DLC, must be done right in the first place.

And the truth is, in its current state, Dawnguard feels a bit like an unpolished beta. Just wait patiently. It's way better than pushing Bethesda to release it just now.
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Re: WTF!!!: No Dawnguard for PS3 Yet?
« Reply #2 on: August 28, 2012, 09:16:09 PM »
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All I can really say is this.
http://www.destructoid.com/jimquisition-xbox-360-and-ps3-are-just-very-crap-pcs-230979.phtml and no matter how broken Dawnguard may or may not be on PC at launch, by the time the GOTY edition comes out it'll be completely fanpatched. And you'll still be able to play it on PC in 10 years after what, 60% of PS3s and 99% of 360s no longer work, their servers for DLC, DRM verification and updates long since taken down?
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Re: WTF!!!: No Dawnguard for PS3 Yet?
« Reply #3 on: August 28, 2012, 09:29:40 PM »
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Well, continuing this digression, I can say that due to the rampant piracy on X360 where every single DLC is pirated and works, all it takes to preserve content is to jTag your console and you can make yourself a handy backup of all the content and it won't go amiss. PS3 owners aren't that lucky. Modding the console in the first place is problematic and DLC are way harder to preserve and make backups of.

But yeah. The most important feature of Skyrim PC is moddability. Even though you can preserve X360 Dawnguard and play it 20 years later, it'll still be in the state the devs left it in. Which is more or less buggy. PC Skyrimists may safely make fan patches rectifying any and all problems Bethesda leaves behind after finalizing the last patch. Not to mention additional translations. Not to mention many other custom addons X360 and PS3 owners will never hear about.
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