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Re: Was "Devil Forging" Meant to be Some Sort of Necromancy?
« Reply #15 on: January 04, 2016, 01:07:32 PM »
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It might be overthinking this, but doesn't the way how Devil Forging fits into the overall lore of the series mean it's exactly the same? This is just my interpretation and I may have a couple of wrong assumptions, but I got the feeling from one of IGA's interviews (can be found in the sources database) that the nature and creation of Innocent Devils is exactly the same as "normal" demon/devil-type enemies that you fight in the games. The difference being that the former are "innocent". Which got me thinking, assuming Devil Forging one of the methods Dracula uses to increase his army, does that mean that, say a Succubus, is a sculpture infused with a soul? I suppose the difference with a golem would be that this Succubus would have a recognizable human-shape. What I'm trying to say is does that mean devils/demons in the CV universe are not from another place like hell or something, but instead man-made creatures?

I hypothesised this ages ago (and it even got posted on TV Tropes):

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WMG/Castlevania

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My hypothesis also explains why creatures of cosmic level/gods that could potentially overpower Dracula with relative ease are his underlings or aren't as powerful as their home-lore demands.

BUT nowadays I think there are real demons along with man-made demons. There is evidence supporting the existence of a "world" populated by demons that get summoned to Earth through the Demon Castle.

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It would add some sort of theme to the games that all evil originates from humanity somehow in one way or another. 

In fact, even without this hypothesis, this is precisely where the demons come from.

Chaos is a product of humans, as explained on "Ricordanza". In the same novel, Death is revealed to have been born out of Chaos, along with other demons.

So yeah, it appears that the demons are born from chaos, which is born from mankind.
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Re: Was "Devil Forging" Meant to be Some Sort of Necromancy?
« Reply #16 on: January 04, 2016, 01:22:19 PM »
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@Nagumo I had thought about something similar years ago but I'm trying to establish if you're asking whether all the enemies are made like ID's? For every single enemy of Dracula's army? The answer is no imo. It is established some beings are demonic, some angelic (and even then Dracula has dominion) and some human (such as the Zombie soldier in AoS.) Not only this but some of the ID's such as faeries, and the evolution of some of the others are not fought in other games. If anything ID's seem to be more Akin to Alucard's familiars, most prominently the Faerie, Devil. 

How about the enemies made of stone or natural organic material ? Stone (and wood golems), gargoyles, and in a couple of instances such as LOI Medusa starts off as a Stone Statue that comes to life. Maybe I'm reading too far into this, probably am. After all Medusa turns to stone at will, Gargoyles cloak themselves as statues, but ID's originate from stone but evolve into other creatures. (none of which I can remember actually turn to stone, but it's been years since I've played COD.) 
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Re: Was "Devil Forging" Meant to be Some Sort of Necromancy?
« Reply #17 on: January 04, 2016, 06:42:58 PM »
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That's really neat, plottwist. I agree with the theory to the extent that some, but not all, Dracula's monsters are creations of Devil Forgery, like zangetsu said. Which ones are and which ones are not is probably something left up to interpretation for the sake of mystery.

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