Topic: In your honest opinion...

[Sonic_Reaper]

In Reply To #105

What a frustrating person you are.  It's almost pointless to provide evidence seeing as you either use your own biased interpretation of that information or ignore it completed (or are just terribly terribly wrong).

The fact that it attacks twice makes it unique?

Yes.  That and there is no other weapon of its kind in SotN.  I honestly have no idea what definition of unique you're going by, but I'm using the standard dictionary definition.

Useless and reckless.

The thrust is very useful against flying enemies since it can be used in the air, has a surprisingly wide area of affect and the range is quite good as well.  Besides, I was making a lits of unique attacks.  And this is one of them.

not too useful.

Wut ... ?  The katanas are arguably some of the strongest most versatile weapons in the game.  The whirlwind attack covers a large area and is quick and powerful.  And the Muramasa is just broken, don't even get me started.  IIRC, either all or some of the whirlwind attacks be used while running (very useful).  So ... yeah, you're completely wrong.  Imagine that!

but still very alike

Yeah, no, not really.  Stabbing is extremely fast, but has poor range.  Great to use with Dark Metamorphosis to recover HP quickly.  The daggers also have a special attack that lets them be used like normal swords, which refutes your point even further (that they are still alike--if this were the case, why bother adding the special attack?).

I haven't seen this one.

Thank you for showing me your ignorance.  If you're going to  argue, at least be familiar with the game.  At least go and TRY OUT these combinations.  It seems like you're just being a stubborn jerk about it.  You:  "Even though the evidence is here, and these are good points, I'll completely ignore them, since my mind is already made up 100%".

useless.

Wow.  Again ... wut ...?  The Rapier and Werebane special attacks are some of the strongest in the game as far as damage per second goes.  Are we even playing the same game?  Not to mention this ability kicks ass and is very unique.

cheap and there is really no point in having it

You can't be serious?  Have many swords are there in AoS that fall under this same category?  Yeah, SotN has them too (clone swords), but AoS has them just as well.  Ugh.  UGH.

*bangs head against a wall repeatedly*

[paletteswapmonster]

In Reply To #106

Now you're just taking this too seriously. Why get angry and call me a stubborn jerk?

[Long John Silver]

if you're going to suggest sotn's swords are all the same and not unique, why aren't you attacking aos, dos and pork? they're total copyfests.

let's take dos
swords:
short sword = does a slash with sotn animation. special does the same thing.
long sword = see short sword
hrunting = see short sword
joyeuse = see short sword
ice brand = wow, original. it creates an ice cube, special sends an ice cloud
burtgang = see short sword

now let's move to big swords:
claymore = does an overhead slash. special does the same thing.
great sword = see claymore
dainsleif = see claymore
balmung = see claymore
claimh solais = see claymore. special has a large sprite added instead, but it still does the exact same thing.

and so on. each of the "weapon classes" is just one weapon copied over and over, there's less unique weapons in dos and pork than 1/4 of sotn's unique weaponry.

see the problem here?

[paletteswapmonster]

In Reply To #108

True. If only they had SotN's special attacks just for some variety.

[erimocard]

But that's exactly what I meant. In DoS, there are quite a few different classes of weapons, like short swords, axes, lances... in SotN there's one. I never talked about special attacks or something. And even they are better in DoS. Though there are none in AoS, you're right.

[Long John Silver]

In Reply To #110

sotn has punches, stabs and sword slashes. that's more than 1.

and wow, big deal, most of the sword types use one animation for al. so? it's just an aesthetic, plus sotn was the first game in the series to even have equippable weapons, as an experiment. it still had way more original stuff than all of the ds titles combined.

btw. from the looks of it, ooe also has one animation per hand for its glyphs, whether it's a sword, fireball or spear.

[erimocard]

In Reply To #111

I noticed that too. Though it's not really necessary, it's cool, they put that much love into the animation.

[Long John Silver]

no i mean, ooe has the alucard syndrome. chanoix uses the exact same animation for all the glyphs from what i saw, no matter if it's a sword, a spear or a knife she throws.

she has separate animation for each hand (which is cool), but other than that she seems to use less animations than even alucard, from the trailers at least.

we'll see in 17 days if it's true, along with the area sizes, if they're really just 10-20 rooms large.

[erimocard]

The only two things I saw were her standard attack animation and the animation, when she throws knives. There she throws her arm up into the air.