Topic: How does Shanoa compare with the previous DS protagonists?

[wcarnation]

I liked all of them.

Soma and the Sorrow plotline seemed the most detailed of the entire series, though.

Johnathan was kind of a dunce, but it was cool how he was half-Belmont in a way, using whips and other things instead of one or the other. He was like if Richter and Alucard had a baby, which I imagine is in a fanfiction somewhere.

[Azmodan]

One thing I don't get is that there seems to be a thought that after the DS games each character must have this loud, flashy personality, if that makes any sense. Shanoa had the same level of personality as Alucard and Nathan Graves.

[thernz]

Soma wasn't loud or flashy. He was the complete opposite. It was only Jonathan, then again his game is the one that... yeah.

[darkwzrd4]

Well, I think that she is on par with Alucard and Soma.  However, if she didn't loose her emotions, I think that she would have been a lot different.  Then again, at the beginning when she still had them, she was just as serious.

Soma is only a little immature because it the future and his life isn't as hard as the other characters from the past.  I think that his immaturity is on par with that of a teenager of our age, Dracula reincarnation or not.

[Kamirine]

I dunno, I like Shanoa.

I mean Soma is right up there peronality wise with Alucard, except he seems to be a little more friendly (He's pretty nice to every new person he meets in Aria except Alucard but then if I ended up in who knows where, my friend is knocked out and some guy shows up out of know where, I wouldn't be pleased either...) and gets upset a little easier.  He doesn't really stand out in Aria until "OMG...HE'S DRACULA? Technically?!".

And in Dawn, he was just...meh. Again, he didn't stand out at all and he seemed to be a bit more serious than in Aria.  So honestly, I'm indifferent to Soma.

Johnathan just comes off as the generic "overconfident anime hero who actually has underlining self doubt".  I couldn't take him seriously, but then again, I couldn't take the story that seriously given the Saturday Morning Anime feel it had.

And Shanoa..again, her personality itself doesn't stand out (except she's more robotic in Alucard) considering she's very serious, just like Alucard.  The only difference is her reasoning behind it, which almost makes you wonder what she's like with emotions. I mean we saw her at the beginning but she was about to do something crucial so her being serious made sense. 

But then again, out of the three games, I like OoE's story better so. :shrug:

[DoctaMario]

A lot of folks here basically said what I was going to say. For one, I don't understand how losing one's memories=losing one's emotions.

In all, I thought making Shanoa emotionless was something of a cop out. Johnathan had more depth as a character really. At least we know something of his lineage and something about him, whereas Shanoa just kind of shows up, does her thing, and leaves without much explanation.

[Long John Silver]

In Reply To #21

and yet she's still at least 100x more interesting and cool than the lame portrait animu-protagonists or dos caricatures of aos's heroes.

[Battler Ushiromiya]

What's with all the Portrait of Ruin bashing? Jeez, it's like every other topic I visit, someone's throwing in the obligatory "BAW BAW ANIMU ART STYLE SUXORZ BAW BAW!" comment. It really gets annoying after a while.

Actually, It's probably the reason it took me a year after registering to finally make a post. Jeez. So the art style isn't your cup of tea. get over it. As long as the game plays well, I'll be satisfied.

On topic, whether Shanoa's really a better character or not (Don't know yet, I won't have Ecclesia until late December), people will automatically put her above Soma, Jonathan and Charlotte because her art style is more reminiscent of Castlevania's trademark art style. Though from what I've heard, she's got the least personality out of the three... *ibn4flames*

[paletteswapmonster]

In Reply To #23

I'll presume now that you're a fanboy(or you're just a silly person overreacting). No one is bashing PoR. People are just saying how lame Jonathan is because it's, I don't know, relevant to the topic. And by the way, people don't like Shanoa better because of the art style, it's because she's actually a better character. Her personality is on the same level as Alucard's. People just need to be more open-minded instead of saying things like "omigawd shanoa iz leik a robawt n haz leik noe personalitee lawl lawl lawl".

[Battler Ushiromiya]

Ya know, if someone has no emotions, they're like a robot.  : That said, I havn't played Ecclesia yet, as I've said. If she isn't as emotionless as people say, or she gets a decent amount of character development, I'd consider her the best.

And yes, there is wanton bashing of PoR characters when it's not even on topic. a lot of bashing I've seen here involves the art style. If it's not SotN's art style, it's BA-A-A-AD! A few people have even gone as far as hanging Jonny and Charlotte's sprites, and so on.

[paletteswapmonster]

Play Ecclesia, and be open-minded.

People hate the DoS and PoR art style because it's bad, not because it isn't Kojima. It's just stupid, silly, and generic. You honestly can't say it's good. And people hang Jonathan and Charlotte sprites simply because the characters are utterly fucking horrible and they hate them with a passion. It shouldn't be hard to see why, really.

[Battler Ushiromiya]

In Reply To #26

Wait, you tell me to be open-minded, and then you rant on how much Jonny and Charlotte suck? Wow, ironic. Jonny's actually a pretty decent character once you get past the catchphrases. He sure as hell beats the pants off a good portion of Video Game characters out there.

Also, I'd love to play Ecclesia. Given the opportunity, I'd go out and buy it right now. Why don't I? Because I'm BROKE. Just because you haven't played a game doesn't mean you don't plan on playing it eventually.

[thernz]

I'd prefer emotionless over Jonathan's angst with dad, arrogance, and etc.

[paletteswapmonster]

In Reply To #27

Johnathan just comes off as the generic "overconfident anime hero who actually has underlining self doubt".

And there's also...

"NO PROBLEM!"

"I MAY NOT HAVE THE WHIP'S POWER BUT I CAN STILL KICK YOUR ASS!"

"NO PROBLEM!"

"ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OOUUUUUUTTT!"

"NO PROBLEM!"

[Battler Ushiromiya]

I'd prefer emotionless over Jonathan's angst with dad, arrogance, and etc.

Then never watch a Gundam series. Ever.
Exception being Wing. No, wait, Wufei angsts there too.

Quote
"NO PROBLEM!"

"I MAY NOT HAVE THE WHIP'S POWER BUT I CAN STILL KICK YOUR ASS!"

"NO PROBLEM!"

"ONLY ONE WAY TO FIND OOUUUUUUTTT!"

"NO PROBLEM!"

Ya know, I bet the writers REALLY regret writing that "No Problem!" line now. He doesn't even say it that often.

Jesus, Jonathan's called a piece of shit character because he says "No Problem", yet Resident Evil's Leon Scott Kennedy gets praised for lines like " Your right hand comes off?" and "No thanks...BRO!!!". WTF?