Topic: Who gets the whip?

[Profbeanburrito]

Am I wrong or in the HOD is said that Simon made a kind of tournament to choose who gets the whip?

I'm not really big on HoD, and I haven't played that in awhile but I don't think thats stated. That sounds like one of those things you don't forget easily. And It kind of sounds lame if it is in there

[crisis]

The intro to CVAdventure states that, not HoD.

[Alutwon]

So wait Soleil was tainted similar to how Richter was but the Belmonts could still hold the whip? I'm a little confused.

[DragonSlayr81]

IGA said that something mostlikely happened AFTER SotN which resulted in the Belmonts loosing the whip. He said he had to address that "event", and seemingly he didn't really do that with OoE, nor the Radio Drama.

[Battler Ushiromiya]

In Reply To #20

OoE did explain something else, though. I remember hearing a while back that Alucard sealed himself away after SotN to keep Drac from coming back. So how did Drac come back anyways in Bloodlines and PoR? Ecclesia reveals that the Seal placed on Drac had been shattered (Durring the game, that is), which allowed Drac to be revived.

[Alutwon]

So Alucard did seal himself again? well that explains his abscence in OoE

[Super Waffle]

Would he even be aware of OoE?  Ecclesia was supposed to be a Super Double Top Secret attempt to kill / revive Dracula outside of the active Belmont channels without tampering with the existing continuity, and the castle itself only existed for a brief time in the middle of some wilderness.  Alucard could have just been as clueless as the rest of the outside world.

[Reinhart77]

So wait Soleil was tainted similar to how Richter was but the Belmonts could still hold the whip? I'm a little confused.

Putting aside questions of whether or not Order of Shadows is canon or not, Order of Shadows does indicate that Desmond Belmont's father was unable to use the Vampire Killer whip (at least at its full power) and was slain by Rohan Krause as a result.  Given the time period OoS is from, I like to think that Desmond is Soleiyu's son or grandson and the fact that Soleiyu got possessed had something to do with this little problem.  Desmond "earned back" that power by defeating Krause (or maybe the whip reawoke the moment Dracula returned, which was triggered by Krause's death).  This seems unrelated to whatever reason the Belmonts couldn't use the whip after Richter though.

[DragonSlayr81]

In Reply To #21

I don't recall hearing that. Then again, any info posted regarding the SotN radio drama didn't stick with me, so I don't recall the gist of it other than Alucard NOT sealing himself directly after the events of SotN and that he was chasing another vampire who was posing as him.

OoE's date isn't given, but from what I recall IGA first commenting on, he said it took place sometime in the mid-1800s, which meant there was a good time between SotN and that for stuff to have happened. Some of us think that the new PS3/360 CV game will take place sometime then(after the events of the SotN and the radio Drama, but before OoE), and it will somehow explain what exactly happened.

[Alutwon]

In Reply To #23

Well anything is possible in the CV universe. I don't see how he couldn't be aware. He woke from what was supposed to be an eternal slumber because the balance shifted. Since there was no "true" vampire killer (person not whip) around in OoE he should have sensed that immediately.

[Reinhart77]

In Reply To #21

I don't recall hearing that. Then again, any info posted regarding the SotN radio drama didn't stick with me, so I don't recall the gist of it other than Alucard NOT sealing himself directly after the events of SotN and that he was chasing another vampire who was posing as him.

OoE's date isn't given, but from what I recall IGA first commenting on, he said it took place sometime in the mid-1800s, which meant there was a good time between SotN and that for stuff to have happened. Some of us think that the new PS3/360 CV game will take place sometime then(after the events of the SotN and the radio Drama, but before OoE), and it will somehow explain what exactly happened.

The Alucard sealing Dracula thing comes from the google translation of Alucard's profile in the audio drama, which says "After sealing the revived Dracula, Vampire忌MI嫌I with the blood of their own, have hidden themselves. "  I had interpreted this as meaning Alucard sealed away Dracula with his own blood, but maybe the whole blood thing was just talking about the fact Alucard and Dracula were related.  But it does seem Dracula was sealed at any rate.

[X]

According to the super Castlevania 4 instruction booklet the Vampirekiller is passed on to the eldest child of the main Belmont family house. In other words those who are of direct descended of the first Belmont to ever use the whip. While other members of the family are trained in the skills of vampire slaying, they themselves would not carry or use the whip unless something happened to the one who is of direct decendent. And since The whip is given to the eldest child there is no excuse as to why we can't have a woman Belmont play the lone hero for a change.

-X

[Alutwon]

In Reply To #28

Well not that I'm saying theirs anything wrong with a CV heroine or that Castlevania is historically accurate in anyway, but look at the time period and its obvious tradition is heavily in play here so i doubt they meant 'female' eldest child.

[X]

True. But I do think that IGA's the one responsible for the so-called tradition. It wouldn't kill him to have a woman around once in a while. 

-X

[The Last Belmont]