Topic: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!(SPOILERS HERE, PLZ USE THE SPOILER TAG)

[jimmay17]

If I remember correctly, this is where people thought they could hear the revised waterfall tune:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DPETnG7ScE

It's wholly subjective, but it does sound a little like it; it has a similar, simple and repetitive piano line.

[BigDotBomber]

The truth behind if it was or wasn't originally Castlevania (And other interesting facts.)

http://www.ripten.com/2010/08/29/how-hideo-kojima-re-designed-gabriel-belmont-and-guided-lords-of-shadow-getsome/

[Kamirine]

If I remember correctly, this is where people thought they could hear the revised waterfall tune:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DPETnG7ScE

It's wholly subjective, but it does sound a little like it; it has a similar, simple and repetitive piano line.

...It does sound like the waterfall theme. It's easy to recongize, I'll admit. Sounds great, can't wait to hear the other remixes.

As for the facts posted by BDB: Interesting. I figured Kojima had a bit to do with the project but it's nice to know he had a hand in even the minor details. I figured he wouldn't stamp his name on a game without it be at least half way decent anyway. (Whether you like MGS or not, you gotta give him that with his games.)

[RichterB]

The truth behind if it was or wasn't originally Castlevania (And other interesting facts.)

http://www.ripten.com/2010/08/29/how-hideo-kojima-re-designed-gabriel-belmont-and-guided-lords-of-shadow-getsome/

Interesting, good read, but I don't agree with the following in BOLD:

"Dave Cox:  [On N64's Reinhardt Schneider] Yeah he was a bit like that, kind of this furry big armor, very brash, very one dimensional. . .

Schneider was one of the least one-dimensional CV heroes. Think of his inner conflict with Rosa, a cursed vampire woman that should be his enemy, and yet he struggles to save her. He goes out of his way to help out Malus, too. And supporting material notes he is a man who was plagued with "self-doubt" of his bloodline responsibilities from his youth. ...Moreover, did this interview have to use the later-drawn, Arnold Schwarzenegger-esque art for Reinhardt rather than the more accurate earlier official art (which actually better matches the in-game model and is much cooler)?

On another note: There's a new video out and about with Cox playing and narrating, and the game looks pretty convincing (I told myself I wouldn't watch anymore, too). I'm more or less sure now that it'll be better than the two PS2 Castlevanias. Will it be the best CV ever? I don't know. But aside from some quick camera transitions that seem just slightly awkward, it looks like a lot of fun. I like a lot how it's incorporating the whip so heavily.

[DragonSlayr81]

On another note: There's a new video out and about with Cox playing and narrating, and the game looks pretty convincing (I told myself I wouldn't watch anymore, too). I'm more or less sure now that it'll be better than the two PS2 Castlevanias. Will it be the best CV ever? I don't know. But aside from some quick camera transitions that seem just slightly awkward, it looks like a lot of fun. I like a lot how it's incorporating the whip so heavily.

I think, the Cox walkthrough gameplay, makes this CV look like the BEST 3D CV so far. Like I said, it seems to take aspects from all the 3D CVs, but also go in it's own direction. I really like how platforming is showed in two formats. One(in the old clocktower vid), it's in full 3D. Two(in the recent video), the camera shifts into 2.5D sidescrolling format.

[corneliab]

It's wholly subjective, but it does sound a little like it; it has a similar, simple and repetitive piano line.

It's not subjective. Cox confirmed it was the waterfall theme on his twitter.

[jimmay17]

It's not subjective. Cox confirmed it was the waterfall theme on his twitter.

I did not know that. Consider it official. It is a rather loose interpretation of the theme, however, at least from what little of it you can hear clearly inbetween the Charlie Brown Teacher in Spanish vocals intruding in the video.

[Oralox]

It's not subjective. Cox confirmed it was the waterfall theme on his twitter.

I thought he confirmed that the theme was in the game and I never read anywhere he said that the waterfall theme was in the gameplay video of the clock tower level.
So where is the proof for this?

Source:
http://twitter.com/CastlevaniaLOS/status/14375995598

[RegalX7]

It was greenlit as a Castlevania title, but then we were told it was going to be an original IP.  We said, “Ok we can work around that, we’ve got a great game here either way.”  Then we showed it as Lords Of Shadow at  a senior managers meeting in Japan.  Kojima-san was in the room, all the senior managers were in the room. When they saw the game . . . you could tell there was a change in the room, you could feel it.  There had been some resistance up until this point, but once they saw what we’d been doing, they were finally on board.

So, it was Castlevania, then it wasn't, then it was again?

[JR]

I found that a little hard to believe...almost sounds like an MGS plot twist to me. 

[Dtritus]

I thought he confirmed that the theme was in the game and I never read anywhere he said that the waterfall theme was in the gameplay video of the clock tower level.
So where is the proof for this?

Source:
http://twitter.com/CastlevaniaLOS/status/14375995598

Oscar Araujo's take on Waterfalls CV theme can be heard in the clock tower level. I hope this ends speculation 

[CastlevaniaX]

I missed the clock tower video. Would some one provide me with the link to it ?

And yes, I like it when it shifts to 2.5 D. Good work MS.

Yousef

[Kingshango]

So, it was Castlevania, then it wasn't, then it was again?

Basically:

Lords of Shadow planned as a the next console Castlevania against  IGA's and Konami USA's own Castlevania projects

Have it look like a new IP in case it wasn't chosen by Konami JP as the next console Castlevania since it already looked diffrent from the other potential CV projects. That way the game could still be developed instead of scrapping the project as a whole.(Similar to the Devil May Cry 1 was gonna be Resident Evil 4 thing)

Castlevania Lords of Shadow get's chosen by Konami JP as the next console Castlevania, Hideo Kojima like what he see's and offers assistance and IGA goes into despair.

[shelverton.]

I was thinking... It's quite possible that IGA and his team is still working on the TGS 2008 Alucardvania, but under a different name. It could be the foundation for an original IP. I mean, why throw an entire idea away just because the Mercury Steam game was greenlit? I honestly have no idea how stuff works in the industry, but it seems like a waste to just cancel a game and throw it in the garbage bin. Though I'm guessing it's common to takebits and pieces from cancelled projects, and put them in new games. Like, the Bloodletting became Symphony and stuff. Alucardvania could become.. dunno... omg NANOBREAKER 2! Or maybe not...

[Nagumo]

I think it will most likely remain a Castlevania game. There is no reason to change it to an orginal IP.