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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #480 on: June 06, 2009, 11:48:38 PM »
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Now back to the discussion on Lords of Shadow meaning I am moving on from this discussion Giz.
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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #481 on: June 07, 2009, 12:10:25 AM »
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But even Aeon had the ability to act physically and it was obviously him and St Germain had the same powers.
Aeon* was in a special dimension located outside of normal space. In other words, a dimension where he can have a physical effect. The only thing he did was transport them there from their respective times, which isn't quite the same thing as physically and directly affecting standard space.
*As well as the rest of the cast of Judgment.

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I enjoy pissing someone off who speaks like they are an intellect.
I do hope you realize that you're never going to piss me off - especially now that you've declared your intent.
As for the latter statement, I speak as I am. No changing that. (Also the word is 'Intellectual'; your current sentence is incorrect.)

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Lament of Innocence was branded as a DMC clone because of the gameplay and camera so whether you think it doesn't there more people that think it does.
And in retrospect we can safely disregard such claims of similarity. The combat is still very different from standard DMC fare, and having a still camera is hardly a unique trait.

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In Curse of Darkness you summoned monsters to your aid with the powers of the forbidden art called Devil Forge Mastery. In Chaos Legion you used a forbidden art of summon stray souls to summon monsters. Both forbidden arts how does that not have any merit to them? Guess your dad told you they didnt right? Also both games take place three years after some kind of event that drove two best friends apart. Issac claiming it was because of Hector that Dracula was defeated even though he was not mentioned in Dracula's Curse at all and Victor trying to find the forbidden glyphs to use them to get revenge for against not only Seig whom he thought killed his woman but against the Order.
You make them sound so similar. The simple fact is that the context is completely and totally different, and the storyline is not nearly as similar as you'd like to imply. I will admit you almost had me, until I researched the story of the game and watched the cutscenes. Any story similarities present are honestly trivial at best and the execution, context and implications are so radically different that it invalidates the point.

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Curse of Darkness did nothing new what so ever other then give you the ability to make your own weapons all of which you could purchase from a shop or find laying around Castlevania some where.
Chaos legion's "Legion" creatures function completely and totally different from CoD's ID's; the legions resemble summons from Final Fantasy much more then they do the Innocent Devils of CoD which are much more companion-like in nature.

As for CoD; CoD introduces the trinity of the stealing, item creation and ID system. The item creation is a much better alternative to simply finding or buying weapons, although if I had been in charge of it I would've altered the mechanics to be a bit less linear. The Stealing system was quite possibly the best thing introduced in CoD and is (or would have served as) a nice alternative to the usual rare item drop system. The ID system is relatively unique in its execution and detail, and while it most certainly was not the most engaging part of the game it was still fun to play around with. If only it was streamlined a little bit more. The ideas were exceptional and all dealt with Hector's status as a forger very well; the execution was well enough although the potential of the mechanics wasn't fully tapped into.

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Guess your dad told you they didnt right?
Cool assumptions and nice attempt at an insult but I'm afraid its ultimately futile, the former remark was just a snarky last minute comment and I'm afraid any implications it may have had to you are actually meaningless.
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If there's anything that would make me hate the classic Castlevania games, it most certainly isn't the games themselves; but rather, that ignorant fraction of their fanbase.

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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #482 on: June 07, 2009, 12:12:14 AM »
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Now back to the discussion on Lords of Shadow meaning I am moving on from this discussion Giz.
Wonderful! No more flamebaiting, and now we can get back to talking about Goth of War. :D
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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #483 on: June 07, 2009, 12:12:51 AM »
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In Reply To #502

*Refuses to feed the troll anymore*


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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #484 on: June 07, 2009, 12:14:32 AM »
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I guess simply having a different opinion and yearning for discussion surrounding said opinion and its variances qualifies one as a troll. I will have to keep that in mind!

I would like to see if you have anything to say to my statements, though. I feel they're all very valid points.
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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #485 on: June 07, 2009, 12:24:55 AM »
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But oh well you do have a point with St Germain but Im still not trusting someone who looks like a railroad tycoon.
I lol'd.

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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #486 on: June 07, 2009, 12:26:35 AM »
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I Giz'd in my pants

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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #487 on: June 07, 2009, 12:31:13 AM »
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I guess simply having a different opinion and yearning for discussion surrounding said opinion and its variances qualifies one as a troll. I will have to keep that in mind!

I would like to see if you have anything to say to my statements, though. I feel they're all very valid points.

You know we got off on the wrong foot here lets start over.

Yes your points are very well written however I still think that CoD was a very horrible game.

Im sorry for attempting to insult you that was in poor taste for myself.

Now I have made several attempts to move on from this discussion and yet you have tried to keep me in with quotes like "I guess simply having a different opinion and yearning for discussion surrounding said opinion and its variances qualifies one as a troll. I will have to keep that in mind!

I would like to see if you have anything to say to my statements, though. I feel they're all very valid points. "

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"Wonderful! No more flamebaiting, and now we can get back to talking about Goth of War."

In what I see as an attempt to keep this argument going which would come off as troll like behavior I suppose.

Now maybe just maybe we can both be adults and agree to disagree and move on.

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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #488 on: June 07, 2009, 12:40:53 AM »
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I was actually kind of excited about talking about Goth of War again. ):

Though yes, I did want to hear what you had to say to my comments. But oh well~
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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #489 on: June 07, 2009, 01:20:44 AM »
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Back on topic. Lumas, you're getting cheeky; watch it.
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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #490 on: June 07, 2009, 01:53:58 AM »
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All this talk of Curse of Darkness is making me want to play through it again. Time to roll out the dusty ole' PS2.
If I forgot "everything I knew about Castlevania" I certainly wouldn't be excited about a new one coming out now would I?

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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #491 on: June 07, 2009, 02:59:35 AM »
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No please don't the gameplay was great but its too monotonous.

Anyhoo....Patrick Stewart. That is all.

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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #492 on: June 07, 2009, 03:08:11 AM »
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Oh yeh
it would take 3 hours just to get through some long hallways and such.

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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #493 on: June 07, 2009, 03:41:01 AM »
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 Can we PLEASE not call it Goth of War. It is an obnoxious title that will stick if too many people use it. The only similarity is that we are jumping around and fighting large monsters (the same could be said about ANY next gen action fantasy game), using a long ranged flame whip of sorts. Castlevania has had the flame whip for years, and there is just no other way to transfer the weapon to a 3D environment. There is no obvious influence here.
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Re: I knew it! Castlevania: Lords of Shadow!!!
« Reply #494 on: June 07, 2009, 03:44:09 AM »
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I dunno, man, I think Goth of War might already be catching. I sure as hell know I can't stop calling it that.

Of course, part of me hates calling it that because the fac that it isn't goth and has very little if any connection to anything gothic is what bothers me about the title in the first place~

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