Topic: Dracula's Curse movie will happen.

[Reinhart77]

Just because I'm such a list freak, here's a list of games and the potential "gypsy"s that appear in them.

Lament of Innocence - None?  It's not known how "alchemy" and the craft practiced by the gypsies are related.  Could Mathias's family have some ties??
Dracula's Curse - Sypha + the "Seekers" counting the animation
Curse of Darkness - Isaac and Julia + 2 of Isaacs companions counting the manga
The Adventure/ReBirth/Belmont's Legacy - Barleys and Dracula's cult could be related to Gypsies
Belmont's Revenge - Possibly Dark Side weather wizard is a gypsy
Order of Shadows - Rohan Krause could be a gypsy
Castlevania/Haunted Castle/Vampire Killer/Super Castlevania IV/Chronicles - Old Crone merchant in VK and horn-playing druid and Ice Wizard in Chronicles
Simon's Quest - All merchants, spirits, ferryman, or otherwise cloaked figures
Harmony of Dissonance - The Merchant
Rondo of Blood/Dracula X - Shaft could be a gypsy, Ghost in Dracula X could be Shaft's ghost
Symphony of the Night - Ferryman, Shaft?
Order of Ecclesia - Necromancer
Circle of the Moon - Necromancer
Legacy of Darkness/Castlevania 64 - Ferryman, Carrie Fernandez, Carrie's Cousin
Stoker's Dracula - None?
Bloodlines - Drolta Tsuenzes, Water Wizard
Portrait of Ruin - Charlotte Aulin
Battle of 1999 - Surely there was someone present
Aria of Sorrow and Dawn of Sorrow - Yoko Belnades

[VGuyver]

Shaft was more of a unholy presit, since we was head of the cult that worshipped Dracula. He wore that clothing as a religious thing (and for an evil look) Overall, I doubt he's a Gypsy

Yoko was a witch. Though sometimes they are counted as Gypsies, but since she's with the church, then she is a old fashion witch. Not unless you count her as a descendant of witches. Same applies to Charlotte.

Bram Stoker's Dracula has brainwashed ghouls who do Dracula's bidding. though in the background of certain depictions you do see Gypsies, but I don't recall any being an actual part of the plot.

I don't count ferrymen as gypsies, ferrymen were typical Christians of those times and only wore those cloaks as protection to the elements. Which is ironic since everyone else in the games seems ot wear them just for the hell of it. The merchants though make perfect sense though since that reflects their image in that period.

Why are you counting the horn playing Druid as one? Aren't Druids... you know, druid? They have their own mysteries and myths pertaining to them, also much more older and very far off from the birthplace of Gypsies.

Everything else I either agree with or I don't have enough information to judge.

[Reinhart77]

yeah, these are all just speculations based on the whole cloaked thing and magical abilities and just dubbed "potential candidates".  the "horn playing druid" isn't his real name, just a description based on appearance that fans have used.  he could very well be the same type of cloaked being that was found in Simon's Quest.  

Shaft, Bartleys, Rohan Krause, Necromancer are all just speculations as well.  I just noticed that Isaac and his companions (who he killed eventually) were at Dracula's Castle and wore cloaks like that.  I wonder if there were more such people at Dracula's Castle and if the movement to resurrect him stems from these followers of him in the CoD manga.  Perhaps they started out as Gypsies, but eventually their cult spread and they accepted "normal" humans with lusts for power, immortality, and evil in their hearts, so that people like Shaft might not actually have Gypsy genetic roots, but their movement did.

The sprite used for the Ferryman in Simon's Quest was the same as the merchants and graveyard spirits.  I've always assumed they were unrelated because of the limited amount of sprites they created for the game, but what if the sprite is tying together an entire culture?  There's a clue that says the Ferryman loves garlic, but I wonder if that's just a translation issue and the clue might have been intended to refer to the graveyard spirit.  The origins of things in Castlevania may also be different than historical and mythological origins.  

And of course Belnades being gypsies is also speculation, but I think it nicely ties things together.  In the end, it's all speculation.  According to the Japanese, Sypha was a witch, but she was essentially raised by the church, who took pity on her, after her family had been killed.  The Belnades, including Charlotte and Yoko, stems from a long tradition of siding with the church, and is a bit of a case of strange bed fellows.  Siding with the church or Dracula seems to be a decision based on who an individual gypsy holds responsible for the humans/church's persecution of their people.

[VGuyver]

if there is one thing known about established churches, is that they can be two faced. If only castlevania would use that in their plots. Afterall, we've had blood thirsty popes in real life history. The closest we had to that was death pretending to be a priest or monk (don't remember exactly now) in Curse of darkness.

The whole cloak thing, It's probably just a common look and item for anything related to horror and mystery. That fits perfectly with castlevania, but it would definitely be more interesting if your gypsy ideas came to fruition (why the hell is this last word spelled without an "a"?).

[darkwzrd4]

if there is one thing known about established churches, is that they can be two faced. If only castlevania would use that in their plots. Afterall, we've had blood thirsty popes in real life history. The closest we had to that was death pretending to be a priest or monk (don't remember exactly now) in Curse of darkness.

The whole cloak thing, It's probably just a common look and item for anything related to horror and mystery. That fits perfectly with castlevania, but it would definitely be more interesting if your gypsy ideas came to fruition (why the hell is this last word spelled without an "a"?).

"Zead" (Death) was a priest.  What about the Celia in DoS?  She was somewhat "two-faced" claiming her cult worshiped God, but she controlled monsters with dark magic and tried to create a new dark lord.

[Bad Wolf]

Celia believed that perfect evil was needed for perfect good to be good, so she wasn't two faced, just misguided and misinformed.

[DingusBelmondo]

"Zead" (Death) was a priest.  What about the Celia in DoS?  She was somewhat "two-faced" claiming her cult worshiped God, but she controlled monsters with dark magic and tried to create a new dark lord.

Don't forget Ecclesia

[uzo]

if there is one thing known about established churches, is that they can be two faced. If only castlevania would use that in their plots.

Ouch! Harsh!

Well, I would say that the church's use of witches (Sypha, Yoko) is pretty two faced in Castlevania. Judgment seems to indicate that Sypha is actually being forced into service.

[Reinhart77]

interesting, i've never gotten that from Judgment.  seems being a church warrior gives her plenty of opportunity to rid the world of beings like those she held responsible for her family's murder.  now, the church might have "used" her, but i think it was her own ambition to become a "priest".  but Dracula's Curse definitely states that she led a bad life and not very happy.

[Felix]

Last night I had a crazy idea.

Having Kojima draw EVERY frame and make the movie made enterily on it.

[Reinhart77]

ha, considering how famously long it takes her to make one piece of art, it'd never be finished.  though i suppose she's done Castlevania manga too.  maybe they could just have her create a manga and then they can adapt the manga to anime?

[Fahrenheit]

Huh, it's on Dracula's Curse? I did not know that. Well, I suppose it's the best game to make a movie out of, what with all the characters and all. Will it have anything to do with Curse of Darkness though, or will it end with Trevor, Alucard, Sypha, and Grant defeating Dracula? Because if it did, then that would be bound to be a cliff hanger...(The curse Dracula made would still be around untill Hector came along three years later)

[Kale]

if there is one thing known about established churches, is that they can be two faced. If only castlevania would use that in their plots. Afterall, we've had blood thirsty popes in real life history. The closest we had to that was death pretending to be a priest or monk (don't remember exactly now) in Curse of darkness.

That's like everything in the world. It's not like it's exclusive to churches. Governments are a definite big one. Other religion, etc. Sides, maybe that was what they were going for, corrupt priests/monk are evil that infiltrated the church.

[Reinhart77]

Nagumo, were you able to get a sense on if they were still thinking of maybe making this a movie in the theater or go with direct-to-dvd as originally planned?

[Nagumo]

No sadly, that one sentence I quoted at the beginning of this thread was the only thing that was said to us. I think the guy tried to brush us off.