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Re: An Incubus in future Castlevania games?
« Reply #75 on: November 03, 2010, 12:55:03 AM »
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I think the best way to incorprate an incubus would be to feature another female protogantist like Shanoa, after all incubi are suppose to feed on women. I think that unlike the succubi who play the more seductive temptress role, and incubus could be more sexually aggressive like a rapist as people said. Incubi are known to rape women in their dreams in order to force the mortal women to give birth to new demons. It is also believed that incubi were the consorts of evil witches and that witches would give birth to monsterous children from sleeping with incubi. What if the female heroine was an ex-witch, kind of like that ex-Devil Forgemaster Hector from Curse of Darkness? I could see an evil witch turned good having to face off against an incubus.

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Re: An Incubus in future Castlevania games?
« Reply #76 on: November 03, 2010, 01:13:11 AM »
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Perfect enemy for Sypha, if we ever got a stand-alone game for her.

I once had an idea for the Battle of 1999 that featured succubii for Julius and the male playable side-characters, and during the female playable side-character's run would be switched to an incubii, making each character's playthrough different.

An incubus torturing the female captive of the male protagonist could be a very interesting plot point as well, without all the "gay" connotations a male lead coming into contact with an incubus is apparently making.

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Re: An Incubus in future Castlevania games?
« Reply #77 on: November 03, 2010, 01:22:17 AM »
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Hah, imagine if a Belmont went up to one and to save the girl he goes "Take me instead!"  >.> Then the incubus would roll over and die from disgust >.>

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Re: An Incubus in future Castlevania games?
« Reply #78 on: November 03, 2010, 02:33:40 AM »
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hehehe... hahahah... wheahAHAHHAHA !!!  huehuahuehua(?)

Ok... are u serious? we got enough with gay character designs and now that homo incubus from that cheesy novel? thats pure fangirl service
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Re: An Incubus in future Castlevania games?
« Reply #79 on: November 03, 2010, 04:52:40 AM »
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Ok... are u serious? we got enough with gay character designs and now that homo incubus from that cheesy novel? thats pure fangirl service

Androgynous =/= gay. :/

I'll take pretty boys over those... steroid-addicted monstrosities...


Edit: Wait, did you mean gay as in not cool or gay as in homosexual? XD
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Re: An Incubus in future Castlevania games?
« Reply #80 on: November 03, 2010, 04:24:56 PM »
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Androgynous doesn't nesissarily, or automaticly equal gay. But yes, Castlevania has seen way too much of that kind of persons over the past decade. It'a also unrealistic for the time in that part of Europe. If we wanted to see a game featuring Androgynous beings, it would take place in France, spain or Italy. Not Romania

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Re: An Incubus in future Castlevania games?
« Reply #81 on: November 03, 2010, 04:47:24 PM »
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I don't really mind the androgynous males. I think they're one of the things that make Castlevania unique, and it kind of fits with what was considered attractive for European men at the time. In those days muscular rugged men weren't considered sexy, it was smooth-skin men who wore colorful silk clothes with clean trimmed hair and beards (as that was a sign of wealth and nobility). In my opinion the males from the older games like Simon and Richter Belmont really looked out-of-place with the European timeline. Ayami Kojima makes her characters look closer to what was considered normal in Europe during those days, except for how she dresses Maria. In those days no girl would ever dare to go around in an outfit like hers. Succubi can get away with dressing scantity-clad because they're suppose to be evil demons and represent what Europeans thought women shouldn't do, also they wear corsets which fit in with the timeline as corsets were very popular in Europe.

Anyways I wouln't mind an androgynous incubus as I feel it wouldn't be Castlevania without him being one. As long as he behaves as an incubus should, which would be the male equivalent to the succubus. I also think he would be better suited for a female heroine to face as a boss.

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Re: An Incubus in future Castlevania games?
« Reply #82 on: November 03, 2010, 05:58:27 PM »
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The androgynous designs worked for a few of the characters. Alucard's half-vampire and vampires in alot of fiction were depicted as very handsome and regal in human form (or could simply make themselves look that way to fool prey). It makes sense that he'd be supernaturally very pretty. His mom was a looker too so that helped.

Richter was around 18-19 when he fought Dracula, so technically its believable that he could still have some boyish looks about him. His image in Symphony could use a bit more of a chiseled look to it, but it's not totally unreasonable.

Trevor got pretty-fied during Curse of Darkness, but also was given some scars to still try and keep him in the "badass" category as best he could be.

Simon's redesign was un-needed and probably the worst example of Ayami Kojima's re-imagined designs.

Gabriel is the happy medium. He's hard-edged but still very handsome. I have confidence that if Kojima's character designs were given the same treatment he got, they'd probably get less flack for being "too" pretty. I'm hoping if and when a 1999 game is done, they keep Julius with some chin fuzz to even the look between "handsome" and "realistic".

And honestly, I thought we were in an age when using the word "gay" to describe how something looks was outdated and passe. I'm honestly surprised its still used like that. Thought that crap stopped around 2005.

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Re: An Incubus in future Castlevania games?
« Reply #83 on: November 03, 2010, 07:20:41 PM »
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I thought the whole point of Chronicles Simon was to make him a bizarre wild man. He has some pretty feral eyes to him. Of course, I guess Kojima didn't harden the face enough so the whole thing brings another feeling to people. I would pin that more just on the way she draws than an intent to draw him as handsome though. I'm hoping that with her technical improvements from Harmony of Despair, that it might hint at greater range of looks if she designs more characters.
Of course, I would've preferred a more minimalist reserved approach to Simon. He always struck me as this stern, no frills, quiet man.
I don't personally mind the androgynous or buff men. I wish they would have both, and of course, characters that balance between the two.

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Re: An Incubus in future Castlevania games?
« Reply #84 on: November 03, 2010, 08:04:29 PM »
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I think the high heels on the boots, the neckbuckle (which screams BDSM) and the black-feathered/furred boa ruined it.  The armor wasn't that bad.  I'd still take the single-pauldron brown armor and blonde hair and conan boots from the original design instead (anyday).
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Re: An Incubus in future Castlevania games?
« Reply #85 on: November 04, 2010, 12:31:13 AM »
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Well, in terms of appearances of characters, it depends.  In the case of the Belmonts, it depends on how you see them.  For example, at first they seemed to be rugged warriors who fought evil, but that changed.  They now seem to be somewhat refined.  In other words, to me at least, it's like a poor person living "off the grid" becoming upper middle class.  They're actually fully clothed instead of wearing that armor that seemed to not cover everything.  They actually seemed barbarian like and now it's like they're nobles.

I don't know.  If you ask me, the Trevor from CoD was the best example of what a Belmont should be.  He was buff, but not overly muscular and his clothing reflected the times.  As for Alucard's appearance, it is about what it should be.  Being the son of a count, his clothing should be that of a nobleman.  And his "inhuman" beauty is standard for how vampires are described in most novels these days.

Regarding an incubus, he should be a "pretty boy".  After all, if an incubus is the male equivalent of a succubus (as we all know) then he should be attractive to women and from what I know, most women like pretty boys.
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Re: An Incubus in future Castlevania games?
« Reply #86 on: November 04, 2010, 01:09:04 AM »
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Regarding an incubus, he should be a "pretty boy".  After all, if an incubus is the male equivalent of a succubus (as we all know) then he should be attractive to women and from what I know, most women like pretty boys.

I agree, an incubus should be attractive just like a succubus. But he should also have the same level of deviousness that the succubi have, like you know he means something evil. As for how an incubus should dress, succubi are often potrayed as wearing leather corsets, thongs, and sometimes high heel boots and gloves. Amusingly when you see the outfit the first words that pop in your head are "S&M", but it actually fits the succubi as they are demons of sinful sex. I think an incubus should dress kind of similar, but not in a Heavy Metal Rockstar way like the one from Nocturne of Recollection. Maybe he could wear a black loincloth with boots and gloves, and have tattooos marking his body? Maybe throw in a black leather armband or two.

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Re: An Incubus in future Castlevania games?
« Reply #87 on: November 04, 2010, 01:59:00 AM »
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Not really, an incubus doesn't have to be a pretty boy. Often, it's men who does the raping, and women who do the seducing... and when you're a rapist, you don't have to look pretty.

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Re: An Incubus in future Castlevania games?
« Reply #88 on: November 04, 2010, 02:14:47 AM »
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Not really, an incubus doesn't have to be a pretty boy. Often, it's men who does the raping, and women who do the seducing... and when you're a rapist, you don't have to look pretty.
True, but I thought that incubi tempt and seduce women into sinful sex like succubi do to men. 
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Re: An Incubus in future Castlevania games?
« Reply #89 on: November 04, 2010, 02:22:01 AM »
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Well they do both, sometimes they seduce women and sometimes they rape them. The same can be said about succubi. But I guess that way would could work, having the succubi be the seducers and the incubi be the rapers. But just because incubi are the rapers doesn't mean they can't be good looking like the succubi.

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