Topic: RUMOR: Castlevania 3DS made by MERCURYSTEAM

[thernz]

Well, that's what it basically was, and intended to be. I wish we had their sprite artists working on Castlevania though. ; - ;

opinion quip: also sotn looks better than secret of mana and super meat boy

[Joachim]

Oh I can guarantee you it was. Before Secret of Mana nothing like that was ever done in RPG land, not only the scale, magnitude and vibrancy of the graphics and size of the sprites + all other aspects

but none of those have anything to do with the actual quality of the graphics. vibrancy, scale, magnitude are nothing more than aspects or features irrelevant of the quality, intrinsic in the conception of the thing but ultimately possessing no bearing on its execution.

SoM came before FFVI, Chrono, SSFII, Metroid, DKC etc... and many other games who really tested the SNES capacity in 1994.

Flashback was released on the SNES the same year and has better graphics. its characters are simplistic, but that helps to differentiate them between the background and also results in them being incredibly well animated.

Even Super Castlevania IV's graphics are better; its sprites are often odd and awkward, but the backgrounds themselves are fantastic. the color usage and shading is infinitely more interesting than the often gaudy and poorly constructed graphics of Secret of Mana. The primary fault of the graphics in SoM can be traced to its color usage, shading and composition; the colors themselves are barebones and uninspired - dull and eastery but without any of that charm. further, it takes with it a lack of contrast, with results in a lot of issues with the composition. things bleed together and look jarring when there is really no excuse for them to do so.


And why does it supposedly being impressive for the time matter when the issue was originally a matter of retrospective?

[le052383]

Well, "fresh" was maybe the wrong word here, but the game felt new even though it's so faithful to the oldschool Contras. Maybe it was because Contra hasn't quite been itself since 1994 so it felt great to finally go back to the roots. I honestly dunno where you'd draw the line between a game that is faithful to its roots, and a game that is "a bunch of parts from previous contra titles". Contra is Contra. Of course WayForward could've thrown everything Contra out the window and created something totally different, but they decided not to. For me, it felt like a TRUE sequel to the Contra games I grew up with, not a rehash. It's definitely not quite as over-the-top as Hard Corps, but is more like a sequel to Contra III. The double screen didn't feel gimmicky but actually added to the gameplay. So Contra 4 was a fresh breath of air for me, in all its oldschoolness.

Not saying your opinion is wrong or anything, but I actually agree with Viper on his statement of the game felt more like a bunch of parts from previous Contra games.  The first few levels felt like loose remakes from Contra 1 and 2 despite the new abilities.  I wanted something new yet at the same time faithful to the old games.  The Rebirth was close, but it is way too short.

[Ahasverus]

Heey guys...
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://dswii.es/34171/rumor-mercurysteam-ya-trabaja-en-nintendo-3ds/

It could be the new Contra though (and that would be awesome so they won't take too much time away from CV)

Or what do you think about a Mercury-Igarashi collaboration?? O.o

[crisis]

Cox won't stop until he's re-made all of Konami's franchises in his image!

@MercurySteam: i hope you're not considering sticking with the "shaky" camera effect
in before the flood of comments "I didn't have a problem with the camera"

[Kingshango]

The million dollar question is will it be 2D (with a 3D gimmick tossed in for good measure), or a 3D game?

[Dremn]

So wait, Iga and MS are working on it together?

Holy shit.

[Ahasverus]

Cox won't stop until he's re-made all of Konami's franchises in his image!

@MercurySteam: i hope you're not considering sticking with the "shaky" camera effect
in before the flood of comments "I didn't have a problem with the camera"

The effect was right SOMETIMEs, for example, when the camera zooms out Carmilla's Castle's stairs and iot's a really windy night, it works perfectly. It's somewhat distracting in Pan's temple though.

On-Topic: It's not sure if it's a Cv, it could well be the much promised Contra Reboot.. or not

[Dremn]

On-Topic: It's not sure if it's a Cv, it could well be the much promised Contra Reboot.. or not

Why would Iga be working on a Contra title?

[Ahasverus]

Why would Iga be working on a Contra title?

The article doesn't state they ARE working with IGA, it's just that they COULD be working with IGA, or making a 2nd 3DS castlevania with Cox OR Making the long promised Cox-Reboot of Contra

[whitedragon_nall]

Any future MS vania should have a past vania producer as an advisor. I'd be down for a MS/IGA game.

[thernz]

3DS game: Hodespair with a Clive Barker touch.

[Munchy]

Eh... After LoS, I'm not too excited for stuff from MS. I don't want a Contra with QTEs, a needlessly melodramatic/unoriginal plot, and systems ripped from other games that do them better.

But money talks, and I'm sure Konami will want them making more games. All I ask is that they listen to criticism and don't just discount critics as people who "don't get it" like Cox did with the one early LoS 7.something review (which isn't even that bad a score!).

Now, if MS's rumored 3DS project is a 2.5D old-styled Castlevania, that I'd be all over. (Provided, as I'm sure I've made abundantly clear in pretty much every post I make, there are no goddamn QTEs.)

[Kale]

I hate this topic......

everytime I see it outside of the forum, it says Rumor: Castlevania 3.... and I keep thinking a cv 3 related thing is going on.

[Foffy]

Why would Iga be working on a Contra title?

He helped with Contra Rebirth.