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Re: Frozen Half's description in SOTN PSP
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2007, 09:19:37 PM »
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Only in the CastleVania Dungeon will an argument arise from a video game to what constitutes as a transvestite...

That and on gamefaqs, where arguments whether or not Posion from Final Fight/Street Fighter is a transexual character despite the japanese bio havin her as a new half, how the recent american capcom arcade games for the console system, Capcom Collections, referred to her as a transvestite, and how she has a crush on Cody.

For those who do not know the character, Posion, she is this "chick":



I think some ppl defend such characters since they are in denial for they probably thought the character is hot before findin out that she was a he.
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Re: Frozen Half's description in SOTN PSP
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2007, 09:22:03 PM »
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Well, I never masturbated to Frozen Halves anyways, so I don't really care what gender they are.

If those Salomes turn out to be men, though...heads will roll >:[

Same here.  I didn't know who Frozen halves were until I read that CV girl enemies thread months ago.  I played SOTN when it was new, but the Frozen Half characters never stuck in my head, while Salomes did.

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Re: Frozen Half's description in SOTN PSP
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2007, 09:27:12 PM »
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I think transvestite is a very broad term to determine whether or not a person is gay or not.  I don't know why they use the term Transvestite in Capcom Classic Collection and DXC since the term "Transexuals" is less ambigious and is a more accurate translation to the term "New-half".

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Re: Frozen Half's description in SOTN PSP
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2007, 11:12:33 PM »
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Isn't the Frozen Half actually called Frozen Shade and not Frozen Half on both original and PSP SotN?

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Re: Frozen Half's description in SOTN PSP
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2007, 11:28:53 PM »
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Frozen Shades are a different enemy--the blue ladies in the caverns.  Frozen Halves are the edited, palette-swapped Aliorumnases that hang out in the inverted catacomb.

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Re: Frozen Half's description in SOTN PSP
« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2007, 01:19:27 AM »
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As far as i remember the japanese version described them as transvestites. The whole newhalf thing was usa made.

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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2007, 11:58:22 AM »
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The use of "new-half" comes from the Japanese version.  See for yourself; it's number 139.

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Re: Frozen Half's description in SOTN PSP
« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2007, 12:12:25 PM »
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Just so ppl know, this is one weird topic :P , If this is still about the fact if the new-half thing was USA version or JAP version, it is/was in both versions.(last time I played it annyways)

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Re: Frozen Half's description in SOTN PSP
« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2007, 02:19:44 PM »
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As far as i remember the japanese version described them as transvestites. The whole newhalf thing was usa made.

Well, new half is a japanese term for transexuals so I don't think it was USA made, especially with the ttwo post before me, saying it was in the japanese version.

I think the original localization team just did a literal translation of the word rather than replacing it with an english term.

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Re: Frozen Half's description in SOTN PSP
« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2007, 02:23:53 PM »
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Just so ppl know, this is one weird topic :P , If this is still about the fact if the new-half thing was USA version or JAP version, it is/was in both versions.(last time I played it annyways)

I suspected as much.  The term was replaced with Transvestite in the PSP version.  I guess they changed it since a lot of ppl do not know what new half means, considering it is a word used in japan.

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Re: Frozen Half's description in SOTN PSP
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2007, 04:22:47 PM »
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I guess. That page's all in moonspeak, so I was just trusting the word of someone who translated it.

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Re: Frozen Half's description in SOTN PSP
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2007, 09:51:44 PM »
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I decided to babel fish the link Steve provided to see if new half shows up once it is translated and this is what I got:

139 Frozen half 45 118 Water It is not Flame Flame Necklace Circlet of consequence boulder 600 The subordinate of evil spirit ガラモス of the new half which works the cold air

If you guys don't believe me, try babel fish and you see that the japanese version has the word "new half" in it.
here is the babel fish link:

http://world.altavista.com/

just paste the link Steve posted on the babel fish site to see for yourselves.
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Re: Frozen Half's description in SOTN PSP
« Reply #27 on: November 15, 2007, 04:49:34 AM »
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Still, Frozen Halfs look hot >.> andnot to mention they always seemed like one of the more powerful enemies, too bad they fall after 3 slices of a blade. (They can probably own shaft a couple times over >.>)

Anyway... Babelfish is a pretty litteral translationand not always accurate, its better if you get a translator. the term "new half" could just mean transvestite in english cuz they might not have "transvestite" in Japanese.

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