Topic: Things not explained but you'd like to know in Castlevania

[Chernabogue]

Sindra's thread about the Stop Watch theory inspired me to discuss this topic.

As some members said, they're HUGE holes in the timeline, universe or lore of the series (both in IGA's and LoS/Cox's). Things like that should be explained in next games, but we could discuss about it and try to find explanations or solutions until then (or never, haha). I have no idea about what we should start on, but each game has its own holes we can discuss.

[Koutei]

Similar old post

Castlevania - The Plot Hole Thread
http://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php?topic=2407.0

This might serve as a reference.

[Viper]

"...what the fuck is that orb anyway?"
How Dracula does put candles onto air?
What's the point to have so many Chapels in "Dark Demon Lord Castle, muhohoho". Dracula is christian?
Why "Dracula wakes up every 100 years" when he actually wakes up four-five times more frequently?

When Simon beated Dracula first time, who dismembered Dracula in parts and hided them in all those mansions?

[Danial]

"...what the fuck is that orb anyway?"
How Dracula does put candles onto air?
What's the point to have so many Chapels in "Dark Demon Lord Castle, muhohoho". Dracula is christian?
Why "Dracula wakes up every 100 years" when he actually wakes up four-five times more frequently?

When Simon beated Dracula first time, who dismembered Dracula in parts and hided them in all those mansions?

I don't know if there's ever been an official explanation for what the orbs are, but I always saw them as the energy of the creature you destroyed.

IGA once was asked why candles give you items.  He replied that the candles were souls that had been trapped in Castlevania.  When you whip them, you are freeing them, so they thank you with an item.  If they are really trapped souls then they could technically be anywhere, even in mid air.

The chapels don't have to be Christian, they could be to worship Dracula since he's the Dark Lord.  Satanists practice similar ceremonies as Christians, theirs are just dedicated to a different god though.

Dracula can be resurrected any time with the correct ceremony.  It's only every 100 years that he resurrects naturally with his full power.

I think it was said that Dracula's followers scattered his body pieces around so that Simon couldn't just go back to his grave and put an end to his curse.

[Successor The Cruel]

Where in the blue blazes did Elizabeth come from?  Dracula's niece?  Huh!? : x

[Sindra]

"...what the fuck is that orb anyway?"

I assume you mean the orb that drops after killing a boss that restores your health at the end of a level? It's just a game mechanic that made it a bit more fair when starting the next level so you weren't continuing on with 1 hit left.

The only possible way to describe that in an actual story-based logical sense would be to say it's the boss's life force transferring to the hero in order to replenish them. Doesn't make much sense though unless Belmont's have a relic that works like Alucard's Soul Steal.

How Dracula does put candles onto air?

Magic? Honestly, that's another game-based mechanic that made getting hearts and money a bit easier. That or the developers were just shyte when it came to making a better system. Having candles only in places were there was wall to explain how they were held would have excluded a lot of areas were they could be put, hence the easy/lazy way of doing it by just having candles floating in mid-air. For the sake of argument, I'll also be lazy and say they float due to magic.

What's the point to have so many Chapels in "Dark Demon Lord Castle, muhohoho". Dracula is christian?

According to Lament's story, Mathias was a devout Christian fighting in the holy Crusades. That's why it stung him so much when Elizabetha died - he thought that God was betraying all the love and loyalty Mathias had given him by taking his beloved wife away so young. He set out to denounce God and prove he would best God's divine cycle of life and death by becoming a vampire and never dying. When Mathias took for Castlevania and became Dracula, the chapels that were a part of the castle were kept as a mockery towards God. They were meant to be blasphemy. When Dracula met Lisa, perhaps the chapels took on a new meaning, and he kept at least one around for her sake - even after she died. Even though he was in a war against God, he wasn't going to subject his beloved to his views and hatreds. Maybe that's why they show up in games centuries after her death - he kept them there in Lisa's memory.

Why "Dracula wakes up every 100 years" when he actually wakes up four-five times more frequently?

Dracula's natural resurrection cycle, brought about by the power of the Demon Castle, is every 100 years. After those 100 years, Dracula is supposedly resurrected with full power. However, as has been made clear, those with enough dark power and resources can resurrect Dracula prematurely - before the 100-year cycle is complete. Death, Shaft, Carmilla, Barlowe and Elizabeth Bartley have all managed to resurrect Dracula before the 100 year anniversary. However, it has been stated that due to being resurrected prematurely, Dracula is not at his full power at those times.

When Simon beated Dracula first time, who dismembered Dracula in parts and hided them in all those mansions?

I believe it was Simon himself who dismembered Dracula. In Germanic and Slavic folklore, it was a common practice to decapitate a vampire after slaying it, and separating the body parts. This was believed to guarantee the vampire could not heal itself and rise again. (or in some real-life stories, it was a way to hasten the departure of the soul from the vampire's body)

[DragonSlayr81]

My question would be, why did the Belmonts have to go in hiding during the 1800s adn the VK whip had to be given to the Morris clan to take up the reigns in their absense. No real official word has been stated, only fan speculation involving Richter being "tainted" when Shaft possessed him in SotN.

[Nagumo]

What happend after the OoS cliffhanger? And what about the Simon's Quest one? 

[crisis]

What dark force was behind Maria's transformation, that it didn't matter to Alucard?

[Sindra]

Where in the blue blazes did Elizabeth come from?  Dracula's niece?  Huh!? : x

This is another theory of mine that I was going to write into its own separate article, but I supposed here is as good a place as any.

Elizabeth Bartley - the "niece" of Count Dracula who was introduced in Castlevania Bloodlines, and based on Erzsébet Báthory from Hungarian history. In the games, she is a vampire who associates with Dracula as her uncle, and was executed in the early 1600's for vampirism, and later resurrected by the witch Drolta Tzuentes in the early 1900's. How does she fit into the scheme of things?

It is said Mathias "became" Dracula at some point before Dracula's Curse in 1476 (which is the historical year the real Vlad Tepes "died", so the timeframe is the same), and Vlad Tepes had several brothers, at least two of whom reached adulthood. It could be said that either of these brothers of Vlad sired offspring, making them the nephews and nieces of Vlad himself. Therefore, Elizabeth could very well be a niece of the human Vlad Tepes, several generations removed. Mathias taking over Vlad's life/stealing Vlad's lifeforce would make Elizabeth's claim still hold some validity, especially since the historical Bathory's uncle was a Voivode (governor) of Transylvania - which Vlad III had been at one point as were his brothers after him.

Elizabeth Bathory was historically a countess who married the son of a Baron and managed his estates while he was away. He ended up supposedly dying while at war with the Ottomans and she inherited everything. Now, according to the Castlevania timeline, this timeframe would be between the games Castlevania: The Adventure and Belmont's Revenge. Bathory/Bartley would have been a very influential person in the same area that Dracula would be in - having fled the battle with Christopher Belmont and biding his time until his power grew back. Dracula would need minions and power, and here was Bathory/Bartley - having the land, power and influence he could use. It would be nothing for Dracula to present himself to Elizabeth, claim familial relations to her in order to coerce her aid, and turn her into a vampire. She supplies him with servants and shelter for him to recover his power, and he turns her into a immortal bloodsucker. Win/Win for them both.

This would also coincide with Bathory's reign of terror in Hungary beginning just after Dracula's defeat in Belmont's Revenge. A few years after Dracula's death at the hands of Christopher in 1591, rumor begin persisting around Hungary of horrific torture and blood-draining Bathory was committing against the daughters of lesser nobility who had placed them in her care in order to teach them, as well as the murder of several maids and other female servants in her castle of Čachtice. She convicted of the murders and died in early 1600's. Historically, Bathory died after years of house arrest in a set of walled-up rooms. The Castlevania history lists Bartley of dying around the same time, but of being burned at the stake after being discovered as a vampire. Either way, after her death, somewhere between 100 and 200 corpses were found in the Čachtice castle - earning her the nickname "The Blood Countess".

Due to her starting out as a human member of nobility, then becoming a bloodthirsty vampire, in the Castlevania universe it wouldn't be hard to assume the "Bathory" name and "Bartley" name could have been separated (by Hungarian officials or covered up by the Vatican) in order to avoid the public from mass hysteria if they found out vampires existed.



THAT is my theory, anyway.

[Munchy]

How is it that the Vampire Killer changes from a leather whip to a chain whip to a shiny whip all the time?

[Ahasverus]

Sindra, you have the most interesting theories about the old saga I have EVER read. My God Konami needs you right NOW it's awesome how you connect things, they make sense and they are intriguing at the same time!  Congrats man! 

[crisis]

[Kingshango]

How is it that the Vampire Killer changes from a leather whip to a chain whip to a shiny whip all the time?

The power of love?

jk, Maybe it has something to do with alchemy I guess.

[Dremn]

What is the point of the orbs?

Why doesn't Simon wear any pants?