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Offline Long John Silver

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Re: PLEASE HELP ME?
« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2007, 02:28:05 AM »
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It would help if you actually showed what you're capable of. So far it's all words of promises and no proofs of them.

Also use some more line breaks, your posts are hard to follow when it's all huge walls of text. :P
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Re: PLEASE HELP ME?
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2007, 03:17:14 AM »
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Why don't you start out with something more easy, like modding ROM's? With all of the game-specific editors available for NES Castlevania you could probably create a more competent and worthy playing experience than trying to develop an original game, becoming overwhelmed, and giving up.

Baby steps.

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Re: PLEASE HELP ME?
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2007, 03:59:19 AM »
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Why don't you start out with something more easy, like modding ROM's? With all of the game-specific editors available for NES Castlevania you could probably create a more competent and worthy playing experience than trying to develop an original game, becoming overwhelmed, and giving up.

Baby steps.

I agree, start out simple and work your way up , can't master calculus if you haven't grasp basic math. :)
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Re: PLEASE HELP ME?
« Reply #18 on: December 07, 2007, 03:43:48 AM »
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In Gamedev.net, every couple of days, some naive, young kid makes a thread asking help to build his MMORPG that will leave World of Warcraft in the dust. This kid's "talent" is that he has written many pages of story and designed enemies and characters (which more often than not are rip-offs from other games). Then, he somehow gets the nerve to ask everyone to code his entire game, paint all his art, model all his characters and compose all his music. People try to reason with the kid and tell him that what he is over his head and that no one will build his game for them, but he continues to babble on and demand cooperation, and resorts to being very annoying by doing stuff like writing in full caps and double, triple and even quadruple posting. His rating plummets, and nothing comes out of it except for wasted time.

Alternatively, some people make threads asking people to help them with their game. These people then show programs, art, etc that they have made in the past. People see their work, and if impressed might decide to help them out.

What is the lesson here? No one is going to help you if you have no skills or talent at all. You can't seriously expect anonymous, random people to work under someone and follow their ideas when they don't contribute anything at all. I am sorry, but splicing sprites is not something that is going to get people to make your game for you.

You say you want people to be equal to you, but clearly the workload is not equal at all. You can't seriously compare programming a game, composing the music, drawing the art to story line and character development. Everyone has storyline and character ideas, its not a unique talent and you aren't necessarily better than anyone at it.

And it doesn't help your cause that you are whining so much that you can't get gamemaker to work the way you want it to. You are doing very basic stuff, I am sure if you took the time to read some of th documentation you'd have no trouble getting what you want done. It's not exactly rocket science.

So, stop your bitching and get good at something, then ask for some help!
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1. I am not whining. I may have whined a little at the start, but that was because my frustration with my programing. I a however, getting sick of people only reading bits and pieces of what I post, instead of the whole thing. Now, that's annoying! I even made a list of parts for people that was as equal as I could figure out. Also, I am modeling my own characters, not asking someone else to do it. I also already said that some of them are classic, or forgotten. I'm not takeing credit for those. I also forgot to mention music, because I was going to do that myself. I think I can also handle mapping and stage creation my self. The list I made is for Phase 2, and only if there is that many people that wnt to help. I'm still in Phase 1, where I work by my self. I'm just asking for 1 little piece of programming, for me to compare and learn from. I'll get by just fine with only one other person to help me and give me pointers. As for that rip-off remark, all of the homebrew games made here on the forum are rip-offs... Castlevaina rip-offs.

2.I already asked what kind of sprites and art people would want to see. Nobody has answered yet.

3.I may be splicing sprites, but let's see you make sprites from scratch. using nothing but pxels with no referance what so ever. I never seaid that was all I would do. I said I would handle character creation(that includes sprite developement, movement, speed, and attacks), Story(that includes the beginning, character intos, events, character dialoge, character developement, and endings) and the tiles, but I also meant that I would handle the music too. And that's if somebody else dosen't want to handle the map and stage creations. Also I never said that I was better at anything. You are completely misjudgeing me.

4.Do you even own Gamemaker? If you do, than why don't you just tell me how to get the animations to stop looping and shut me up? Ive'read the instuctions and all they do is tell me how to make a ball bounce. It doesn't tell me anything about how to make a guy run around and swing a sword, or anything like that. Castlevania is copletely differant than that. I'm just asking for one little program to look at. Not a whole game. And I'm only asking, because nobody will bother to tell me what I'm doing wrong. What is wrong with you people? You act like a person has to practically be born knowing this stuff, or you won't even give him the time of day. If I had such a program, or knowlege, I'd give it. Expecially if it was the program. It would be quicker for both of us. I've posted a program before. It was the one I'm asking for help on. I'm just asking for one little bone to be tossed to me. ether in the form of a program, or instruction.

5. The only one bitching here is you, with your accusations.   

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Re: PLEASE HELP ME?
« Reply #19 on: December 07, 2007, 03:54:38 AM »
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It would help if you actually showed what you're capable of. So far it's all words of promises and no proofs of them.

Also use some more line breaks, your posts are hard to follow when it's all huge walls of text. :P
Hey, Lady! How are you? It's good hear from you again! :)

More breaks huh? How's this?

Anway, you told me that you can't see my stuff, because you either don't have, or can't use Gamemaker.
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Re: PLEASE HELP ME?
« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2007, 04:08:10 AM »
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Why don't you start out with something more easy, like modding ROM's? With all of the game-specific editors available for NES Castlevania you could probably create a more competent and worthy playing experience than trying to develop an original game, becoming overwhelmed, and giving up.

Baby steps.
What's modding ROM's?

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Re: PLEASE HELP ME?
« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2007, 04:15:25 AM »
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What's modding ROM's?

ROM-hacking. I used to do it all the time before I made the transistion to game dev. I would take NES Castlevania and change its graphics, levels -- almost creating an entirely new game.

Used to we did everything by Hex. Now there are game specific editors available that will allow you to rearrange the stages and change the graphics with the greatest of ease. No technical knowledge whatsoever is required to make significant changes to the game.

Google around until you find some resources.

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Re: PLEASE HELP ME?
« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2007, 04:28:13 AM »
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Interesting... I'm after 16, to 32 bit graphics. do you have any suggestions?

I don't like Iga either. I feel that he butchers every Castlevania game he hasn't made.

I just recently got the Dracula X Chronicles and found out that he made Maria more timid!

Made it so she got kidnaped along with her sister, Annete!

That's not how it happened! Maria stormed castlevania to try to save her sister, and then got captured.

That's how it really happend, not that bulls**t that Iga put in.

PM me if you want to discuss more.

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Re: PLEASE HELP ME?
« Reply #23 on: December 07, 2007, 09:19:41 AM »
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i get the feeling that if someone made an engine for you that you would leave and never be heard from for several months.

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I may be splicing sprites, but let's see you make sprites from scratch.
let's see you make sprites from scratch.

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Just give me this one little thing, AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT I'M TRUELY OFFERING.
if you can't make this, what makes you thing you can program enemy AI, multiple charachters and the like?

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The only one bitching here is you, with your accusations

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What is wrong with you people?
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Do you even own Gamemaker? If you do, than why don't you just tell me how to get the animations to stop looping and shut me up?
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Re: PLEASE HELP ME?
« Reply #24 on: December 07, 2007, 12:02:28 PM »
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Made it so she got kidnaped along with her sister, Annete!
Maria is NOT Annette's sister. Iga himself said they're not related in either rondo or dxc, and that it was dxx's fault everyone thought they were. :o

And yes, I can't use game maker. The games made with it crash instantly. I meant more of your sprites, artwork, stories, whatever you wanted to contribute to this project.

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Re: PLEASE HELP ME?
« Reply #25 on: December 07, 2007, 01:13:59 PM »
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Just give me this one little thing, AND YOU WILL SEE WHAT I'M TRUELY OFFERING

Yes but what you're asking is no little thing. Just look at all the moves you want your protagonist to have alone. That's straight up months and months of hard work for somebody. Who is going to want to attempt to do all that and put themselves through all the rigor when they're not even emotionally attached to the project in the first place?

You have to REALLY want to make a game in order to stick with it through thick and thin. This is hard work afterall.
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Re: PLEASE HELP ME?
« Reply #26 on: December 07, 2007, 01:16:31 PM »
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Sorry for the double post, but I would probably also say that he should also be using the time he could be ROM-hacking learning how to either use his GameMaker better or learn a progamming language.

It's more rewarding in the end IMO.
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Re: PLEASE HELP ME?
« Reply #27 on: December 08, 2007, 07:13:34 AM »
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All arguing aside, GameMaker isn't that bad. It's just not that good, either. It's a good place to learn if you don't really know anything about programming, etc. And to learn how to use it, the best thing you can do is to to their forums and use the search extensively.

Maybe you should start with a basic platform engine that's already made, and move on from there to make it your own (giving credit, of course). That's how I did it.


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Re: PLEASE HELP ME?
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2007, 07:28:22 AM »
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i get the feeling that if someone made an engine for you that you would leave and never be heard from for several months. 
 let's see you make sprites from scratch.
if you can't make this, what makes you thing you can program enemy AI, multiple charachters and the like?
etc.

1.If an "engine" is what you really call what i'm asking for, then yes.
And when I returned I would be offering hard and valid and usable characters that everybody can apreaciate, credit them to whoever gave me the engine, and ask people to join me in Phase 2.

2. I'm not even going to bother with trying to make sprites from scratch.
If you did, you would probibly have to go through months, or even years of trial and error, before you can get a fully funtionable character.
Thats why people rip sprites for games.
My point is that hardly any of us, if any of us at all, make their sprites from scrach.
That would take real talent.
And whoever can do that, I applaud and admire you. that is a real gift.
Don't look down on me, just because I splice sprites, while most people just use sprites that were already riped.

3.As things stand right now, I don't believe I can.
I need to learn first and that's why I'm here, asking for help.
I need some body to tell me why my animations are looping, and how to stop it, and how to program the backflip, kick combo, item crash, and whip brandish, either through example, or instruction.
The slide kick should also be able to give me a good idea on how to program combos. The Backflip too, now that I think about it... So, I guess I don't really need the slide kick.
As I said, I am still on phase 1. Phase 1 is where I make the characters so I can post them and get help with the rest of the game, going on to Phase 2.
But first I have to make them presentable and without flaws.
So, I've come here to ask for help in that department.
None of us are born knowing this kind of stuff. Somebody has to teach us.
That's all I'm really asking for. Just give me a chance. That's all I'm asking. 

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Re: PLEASE HELP ME?
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2007, 07:37:08 AM »
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Maria is NOT Annette's sister. Iga himself said they're not related in either rondo or dxc, and that it was dxx's fault everyone thought they were. :o

And yes, I can't use game maker. The games made with it crash instantly. I meant more of your sprites, artwork, stories, whatever you wanted to contribute to this project.
Do the sprites have to be mobile? Or can I just post the sprite sheets?

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