Topic: Lollipop Chainsaw

[KaZudra]

I think I'll pass on this one, I'm all Zombied out for a Decade...

[Abnormal Freak]

Mofoz, it be hittin' US shores TO-MOR-ROW. My initial plan to get to the store when it opens and rush home to play it all day is being hampered, though, 'cos of work. D:

Hopefully I'll have some free time in the evening to ravish in it.

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

I might pick it up tomorrow.  If not, next week.

[Lumi Kløvstad]

I'm currently on the fence about it.

It looks fun and all, but I've heard that one of the VA's in the English version has had some child molestation charges filed against him. I don't doubt that the friend who told me that believes it to be true, but it may just be slander/libel meant to tarnish the reputation of the game's English release. If it IS true, I'll have to bite the bullet and not buy this game, even though it looks stupidly fun and awesome.

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

That's a pretty unusual reason to  not buy a game, in my opinion.  And one I disagree with.

If a game is made with a team of 20 or as much as 100 people, there is bound to be at least one person who isn't the best of the apples.  By that logic, would you boycott all games?

[BingleGod]

If you're considering not buying this game because of a Bad Thing one of the people involved did (spoilers: there is probably at least one person on every game dev team who has done a really terrible thing), I don't know what to tell you. Not because child molestation isn't a an awful act -- it is one of the most harmful things a human can do --, but because Lollipop Chainsaw is already awful-looking enough itself. It's simply more violence porn and sexual objectification with some sort of "But wait -- it's all ironic!!!" slant that doesn't excuse the perpetuation of the aesthetic grossness one bit. And the irony is overdone, anyway. Get a new schtick, Suda.

[Lumi Kløvstad]

That's a pretty unusual reason to not buy a game, in my opinion. And one I disagree with.

It's not all that unusual, really. I simply don't want to put my money towards a product where some of that money would wind up in the hands of a person who may have molested a child. I pass up a lot of games these days for similar reasons.

Then again, the guy may actually be clean. If he is, I will bite my words and buy the game, because it is one I've been looking forward to. If that's the case, show's over and everyone goes home happy.

If he's guilty, I won't sob myself to sleep over missing out on a single game; there are always more fish in the sea.

I'm sure Suda51 would be happy to have my money, but I doubt they'd cry over missing one purchase, especially because this game will likely sell rather well.

Agree to disagree, but that's how I do my best to operate. How you spend your money is your business, and how I spend mine is my business.

I'm admittedly a little disheartened by your conflicting viewpoint on this matter, but I won't try to force my views on this. It just means we have slightly different codes of honor/morals concerning our favorite entertainment medium.

We cool? 

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

We would be, except you somewhat just took a jab at my code of honor.
Eh, we're still cool.
Guess you'll wait for the verdict before purchasing.

[Lumi Kløvstad]

Guess you'll wait for the verdict before purchasing.

Yep. I trust the friend I heard it from, but he hasn't given me a specific name, which leaves open the possibility he made it up. If I DO get a name from him, I'll do what any curious and interested net denizen does: consult Sage Google and his brother, Brother Bing.

I'll let you know what I find, if you're interested.

[Edit]

The guy in question is legally clean, and he goes by the stage name of Jimmy Urine. He HAS written some songs with, well, shall we say "questionable lyrics".

Seriously not digging those lyrics in an old school way.

I may or may not get the game at this point, but the guy himself is definitely kind of creepy.

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

Haha, if I like the game, I do not care of the arguably dubious escapades of one of the people in the team.
Hell, even if I don't like the game, I generally do not care for such trivial matters.

[Lumi Kløvstad]

Haha, if I like the game, I do not care of the arguably dubious escapades of one of the people in the team.
Hell, even if I don't like the game, I generally do not care for such trivial matters.

That I get.

I'm definitely giving the game more thought. Still, the man's getting paid, no matter what I do. So, Suda51 may get my money yet.

[Abnormal Freak]

The guy in question is legally clean, and he goes by the stage name of Jimmy Urine. He HAS written some songs with, well, shall we say "questionable lyrics".

Seriously not digging those lyrics in an old school way.

I may or may not get the game at this point, but the guy himself is definitely kind of creepy.

Ha ha, oh man, I was racking my brain trying to think who this person might be, and if I'd heard of anything about child molestation. When you mentioned Jimmy Urine, it was kind of a "lol" moment for me. I'm not a Mindless Self Indulgence fan, but I've heard plenty of their songs, and far as I can tell it's totally tongue-in-cheek type stuff. Pegging Jimmy Urine for child molestation is about as easy and ridiculous as saying Dario Argento is a potential murderer or Marilyn Manson is the devil—it's a wild assumption based on theatrics and mistaking art for real life.

And Jimmy's part in the game is awesome. Totally off the wall punk rock zombie who screams profanity at you and the words literally attack you. And he wrote the song during his boss fight. It's badass.

--, but because Lollipop Chainsaw is already awful-looking enough itself. It's simply more violence porn and sexual objectification with some sort of "But wait -- it's all ironic!!!" slant that doesn't excuse the perpetuation of the aesthetic grossness one bit. And the irony is overdone, anyway. Get a new schtick, Suda.

No. Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never. SUDA51 is a beautiful godlike being who must continue doing everything he's done so right all these years.

[Munchy]

I'm currently on the fence about it.

It looks fun and all, but I've heard that one of the VA's in the English version has had some child molestation charges filed against him. I don't doubt that the friend who told me that believes it to be true, but it may just be slander/libel meant to tarnish the reputation of the game's English release. If it IS true, I'll have to bite the bullet and not buy this game, even though it looks stupidly fun and awesome.

Not to belittle your hesitance in purchasing (and not knowing all the particulars of that accusation), but I don't think VAs on video games get residual checks.

Anyway, I'm waiting on it because it's a Suda 51 game and you just know it's going to drop in price very quickly. I was pissed when Shadows of the Damned dropped to $20 literally the week after I got it for $40.

[Neobelmont]

To busy with other stuff like trying to learn how to drive, pratice my tennis first time too  , oh and darksiders,onimusha,soul calibur V, and slient hill collection too with a little of tales of the abyss/vesperia 

I look at this and maybe I should cut back on some of this stuff. No wonder why it's so hard for me to complete a game I should just concentrate one at a time.

[BingleGod]

No. Never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never, never.

Sorry. It's true. I mean, if you're going to keep buying his stuff, at least own up to it being embarrassing murder-boner kitsch with a side helping of misogyny. I think Killer7 is the only worthwhile project Suda has been involved with -- mostly because of its richly interpretable character roles and politically charged world --, but it's brought down pretty hard by the banal mechanics. No More Heroes was kind of a cute, although shallow, "Fuck You" if you read it as a critique of videogames (spaces for power fantasies) and videogamers (people who will engage in endless murder for the sake of the spectacle and sense of climbing ranks). NMH2 was a sequel that didn't push the patronization hard enough. Shadows of the Damned was technically competent and forgettable. Penis jokes where the joke is "haha I'm using a euphemism for a penis (or just outright saying BONER! LOL!)" are not funny. And now Lollipop Chainsaw is just another addition to that vacuous history, only now your avatar is a sexual fetish given physical form, and you're killing zombies (surely not an overused trope!). But gamers seem to love zombies, because it's easier to not get uncomfortable about gorily killing legions of humans when they look less human.