Topic: Since the begining (of Castlevania)Dracula is not the voïvod Vlad III Basarab?

[Sindra]

I'm actually pretty content with CV's explaination the way it is. I've never been tender over the whole "not incorporating the historical facts behind Dracula into fiction", especially the CV series. Most of the adapatations of Dracula, which based on Stoker's book, are re-imagined to some extent. Whether they change the origin of Dracula, it never bothered be. Like I said, to me, the importance of Dracula(the infamous vampire) himself outweighs that of Vlad III(and his historical accuracies). Besides, I actually don't mind considering how these are works of fantasy. I've never been a stickler for historical accuracy.

Like alot of parts of different fandoms, you got the people who like story and people who don't care so long as the game is good. I've had an incredibly active imagination since I was a young kid, and adding onto stories that were already partially established helped me develop a taste for far-reaching and elaborate stories that had depth to them. Being a video game addict, this just transferred into the realm of gaming, and I liked thinking about the whole "What If" theoreticals.

To each their own. I'm just saying that it COULD be developed more.

[X]

I'd rather see a game that has CV's original Dracula kill off Mathias and show that prettyboy wannabe who the real bad@$$ in CV is.

[Inccubus]

Yeah, Stoker did a LOT for vampires. I forgot where I read, but the story of Dracula(Stoker's Dracula) has been made into over 200 different movies. And as I've been saying for a while, Stoker's Dracula is more "famous" than Vlad III himself. Almost EVERYBODY knows how "Count Dracula" is. Not many know as much about Vlad III the Impaler. Stoker's Dracula would be the inspiration for Graf Orlok(Nosferatu), and an early movie adaptation(starring Bela Lugosi as the title character) would give the world it's the most infamos depiction of Dracula, inspiring other fictional characters like Sesame Street's The Count, cereal's Count Chocula and personality Count Floyd, among many, MANY others. And at the root of it's base, Stoker's responsible for setting the cornerstone. As a kid, I knew who Count Dracula was before I even got the first Castlevania game. I knew who Count Dracula was, as did all my friends. It wasn't until years later did a lot of us learn than he was based on a REAL person. Believe me when I say this, when we found out, literally, the entire class(almost in unison) said, "He was REAL?!". Prior to that, Stoker's character, the movie depiction, Lugosi and Lee's depiction, they were and probably are STILL the standards of the name "Dracula". Yeah, it's odd, but to pop culture, the fictional character TOTALLY trumps Vlad III in sheer notoriety.

I remember the day I found out that Dracula was based on a real person. It was the day they first aired the episode of G.I.Joe where Dr.Mindbender was gathering DNA to base Serpentor on. I think it was Leatherhead that explained to ...Roadblock? that the reason that they got stuck guarding in old castle in Transylvania was because it housed the crypt of Vlad Tepes, Dracula. I remember how blown away I was by that. ^___^

[X]

I remember the day I found out that Dracula was based on a real person. It was the day they first aired the episode of G.I.Joe where Dr.Mindbender was gathering DNA to base Serpentor on. I think it was Leatherhead that explained to ...Roadblock? that the reason that they got stuck guarding in old castle in Transylvania was because it housed the crypt of Vlad Tepes, Dracula. I remember how blown away I was by that. ^___^

S**t! I don't recall that at all! I have to watch that episode again. Damn, how could I forget that!?

[DragonSlayr81]

I remember the day I found out that Dracula was based on a real person. It was the day they first aired the episode of G.I.Joe where Dr.Mindbender was gathering DNA to base Serpentor on. I think it was Leatherhead that explained to ...Roadblock? that the reason that they got stuck guarding in old castle in Transylvania was because it housed the crypt of Vlad Tepes, Dracula. I remember how blown away I was by that. ^___^

It's really one of those rare accounts that fiction and mythology trumps reality. Same could be said of King Arthur. For however interesting the real man's life was, it would never come close to being as infamous as the mythical tales of the Sword in the Stone, Lady of the Lake and all the other cool widely known mythology associated with the name. The myth is BIGGER than the actual man. That's what Stoker did for Dracula.

[Sumac]

Like alot of parts of different fandoms, you got the people who like story and people who don't care so long as the game is good.

There are also people who likes the story of the game for what it is, and don't pretend there is tonnes of hidden depth.

[DragonSlayr81]

Yes, I'm able to accept CV's story the way it is for what it is, just like I'm able to accept Dracula being Judas in Dracula 2000 or being some ancient pre-Roman monster in Blade Trinity.

[Flame]

I'd rather see a game that has CV's original Dracula kill off Mathias and show that prettyboy wannabe who the real bad@$$ in CV is.

The original CV Dracula is Mathias. Deal with it.

[Mystic Myotis]

I was reading a bio of Vlad III and noticed something interesting.
Matthias Corvinus was the King of Hungary/Croatia and he was buddies with Vlad III until Vlad pissed him off and Corvinus had him imprisoned in Buda.  Corvinus later released him and Vlad III married Corvinus' cousin.
Corvinus' fiance who died (I don't know the cause) was Elizabeth of Cilli.

Sooooo... one could speculate that in the Castlevania-verse Matthias Corvinus *coughCronqvistcough* and Vlad III actually SWITCHED PLACES.


Edit: Oh, looks like I wasn't the first one to notice this.  It's mentioned in the trivia section of Cronqvist's Wiki page.  Now I don't feel as crazy. >_>

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

The original CV Dracula is Mathias. Deal with it.

Indeed....

[X]

The original CV Dracula is Mathias. Deal with it.

Indeed....

Yep. Just like I remember high school. Ganged up on.

[Donvermicelli]

I was reading a bio of Vlad III and noticed something interesting.
Matthias Corvinus was the King of Hungary/Croatia and he was buddies with Vlad III until Vlad pissed him off and Corvinus had him imprisoned in Buda.  Corvinus later released him and Vlad III married Corvinus' cousin.
Corvinus' fiance who died (I don't know the cause) was Elizabeth of Cilli.

Sooooo... one could speculate that in the Castlevania-verse Matthias Corvinus *coughCronqvistcough* and Vlad III actually SWITCHED PLACES.


Edit: Oh, looks like I wasn't the first one to notice this.  It's mentioned in the trivia section of Cronqvist's Wiki page.  Now I don't feel as crazy. >_>

Now that would make for an interesting plot for a CV game.