Topic: Lords of Shadow sequel is coming out this year, hinted by David Cox over twitter

[uzo]

Just because change is new doesn't mean it's acceptable or good.

Likewise, just because the past is established, doesn't make it good or acceptable.

"Get with the times" has never been a valid argument in itself.

[Ahasverus]

classic Enemies where still there
storyline was still there
classic areas like the clocktower,castle keep, and main halls where still there.
classic music was still there.
classic characters where still there

Oh yes they were, SOTN must be given the Greenpeace lifetime award for ROB recycling.
(and FFS, we all know everything sans Storyline you mention there are in LoS too, stop beating a dead horse You-Can't-Win this argument, never, ever.)

Can we get back on topic please? What about the new moCap photos? Intriguing!




^This one looks like the walking on wood animation.

I'm glad they are making new animations, that shows they are not lazy, and it could be hinting that the new characters IS NOT Gabriel Belmont.

[A-Yty]

A: There is very little that can be done to change Konami's mind

Aand..so what? That doesn't mean people should say they like something they actually don't like.

As for Death..I personally like him better as a mysterious god-like entity. I don't want to see him in a flashback as a kid skeleton who daydreams in Grim Reaper Elementary School that he will one day serve a mortal turned vampire lord. I don't want to know too many details.

But hey..what's wrong with this; "IGA hinted Death has his own motives, which is cool. But he never told what that motive was, so it's just another crappy IGA stunt ".

To me, it sounds reasonable for a series whose story and mythology has lived on like CV's has. It's also a smart move from a guy who has admitted he doesn't like creating plots.

I think this is less about what used to be and more about what could be. People don't necessarily long for whippable candles, medusa heads and wall meats just because they used to be there. They mention them because they're small bits that made CV stand out. LoS didn't just ignore them - it had little to nothing to offer instead of things like that. It had neither the interesting new elements nor did it properly acknowledge the original materials.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

Oh yes they were, SOTN must be given the Greenpeace lifetime award for ROB recycling.

Can we get back on topic please? What about the new moCap photos? Intriguing!

Oh yes they were, SOTN must be given the Greenpeace lifetime award for ROB recycling.

My point still stands,

Comparing the changes that came with CVSOTN with the changes that came with LOS just seems like a big stretch to me.

Saying that CVSOTN did the EXACT same thing LOS did and changed just as much stuff as LOS did just seems ridiculous IMO.

Not denying the recycling that happened, but at least they kept alot fo the original CV lore in it.

[Ahasverus]

^^^^^

The Photos the Photos in topic please!!

[crisis]

The photos just prove there'll be more plank walking & shimmying, which a lot of us here didn't like in the first place.

[Kingshango]

How bout this, can we discuss the possibly of there being two Lords of Shadow sequels revealed at E3 this year? One being a Metroidvania like Order of Ecclesia for the 3DS and the console sequel that's non liner like Arkham City? That is what we should really be talking about.

I didn't think Mercurysteam was that big of a studio to work on two games at the same time.

[thernz]

Lords 2 actually to be on 3DS.

Didn't Cox mention the 3DS before anyway? Maybe they might make a Lords-esque game on the platform. It's probably powerful enough. I can't imagine them doing a 2D game, considering their history.

[uzo]

Didn't Cox mention the 3DS before anyway?

The project got canned.

[Sumac]

But it was place in the "non canon" part of the games when IGA and Konami released the official CV timeline.

So your argument is pointless...

LOS is another timeline. Just like CVL. So your argument doesn't make sense.
Have a nice day.

classic Enemies where still there
classic areas were still there
classic music was still there.
classic characters where still there

The same is true for LOS.
So, there Cowboy. =)

But hey..what's wrong with this; "IGA hinted Death has his own motives, which is cool. But he never told what that motive was, so it's just another crappy IGA stunt ".
To me, it sounds reasonable for a series whose story and mythology has lived on like CV's has. It's also a smart move from a guy who has admitted he doesn't like creating plots.

It's bad for two simple reasons:
1) Hinting at some very important plot point and never explaining it, is shitty storytelling, not some "deep-meta" stuff. At least when it comes to Castlevania, which always had simple plots and never pretend to be deep and thought-provoking. If you hinted at something, please, explain. If you don't want to do it, then you shouldn't hint at it in the first place.
2) It not the first time when IGA made hinted at something important storywise and then completely abandoned idea. Time travelers? Secret behind inability of Belmonts to use Vampire Killer? What's the deal with Galamoth? More than once he could explain it, especially in the games that were relevant to the issue at hand (POR, OOE), but...nope.
The fact that he doesn't like to make stories is not an excuse. If he doesn't like make stories fine, but if he absolutely must to write it, than why not ask someone else to help, instead of butchering what could be otherwise interesting story with his own lazyness and carelessness.

[DarkPrinceAlucard]

EDIT

Not worth it.......

will lead no where fast.

please excuse this post everyone.

[thernz]

The project got canned.

RIP

[A-Yty]

It's bad for two simple reasons:
1) Hinting at some very important plot point and never explaining it, is shitty storytelling, not some "deep-meta" stuff. Blah blah blah..

And I never claimed so. If IGA did anything, he suggested Death might serve another purpose besides being a servant of Dracula. And I think that's cool and it's better he won't be the one explaining that any further (if there's a need for it). Same goes for pretty much all the loose ends worth tying up. And I don't think the man would even like to do that, because he seems to acknowledge his weaknesses.

[thernz]

Omission of details that aren't really needed to serve or further the plot isn't really as bad as Gabriel not knowing who Zobek was, even though Zobek didn't change his name at all when he founded the Brotherhood. The disappearance of the Belmonts is all you need to know for Order of Ecclesia's story to flow along. Same with Death's intentions being vague, because well, Death never actually does anything that encourages you to know why. Until the reason why actually comes into play, it's not a plot hole, it's a plot point. This is basically the same as why you never needed to know why mikael miers had his mask in Halloween.

Or maybe Zobek is a common name.

[KaZudra]

you know what would be cool?

If LOS put in Time Reaper as an Enemy towards Death (Zobek) and/or the New Protagonist.

Omission of details that aren't really needed to serve or further the plot isn't really as bad as Gabriel not knowing who Zobek was, even though Zobek didn't change his name at all when he founded the Brotherhood. The disappearance of the Belmonts is all you need to know for Order of Ecclesia's story to flow along. Same with Death's intentions being vague, because well, Death never actually does anything that encourages you to know why. Until the reason why actually comes into play, it's not a plot hole, it's a plot point. This is basically the same as why you never needed to know why mikael miers had his mask in Halloween.

Or maybe Zobek is a common name.

I agree, it isn't a bloody shonen Jump anime where every detail of existance had to be explained.

I though Zobek was some sorta anagram to the COD Zead