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I'd still like to know who The Angel of Death is Dracula's confidante.

I prefer to think that he is in fact just a very powerful necromancer, or one of many beings, like the Japanese Shinigami.

I have the idea that if he was the grim reaper, humanity would have already lost a long time ago. I mean seriously.
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I miss the days where you just walk into Death's room and he just murders your ass instilling fear in you instantly. Cut this back story bullshit. Death is Death. He doesn't give a damn. He just wants you dead. The fact that there was no Death boss fight in LoS completely ruined the game for me because I was looking forward to it the entire time.
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Then go back to playing the old classics then.

I for one dont mind some change in my vania. If it can tell my why exactly Death is Dracula's confidante, Im all for it.

People IMO, need to step out of the past and accept that things change and evolve. besides, it's just one game so far. One which is supposed to be an origin story. Who knows what the next game will be like. And personally, I found the way they handled Death to be interesting. There are 3 facets to it- The Necromancers, who control it, the reaper things, which are the physical manifestations of the force called death and take the appearance which the viewer imagines,(most commonly the "grim reaper" figure) and Zobek, who is so powerful he is practically unkillable,(even Satan himself couldnt kill him, since he's alive in the epilogue, suggesting he eventually revived from that death) and is the master of the Death "force"- and all the Necromancers serve under him.

Also, Death has never been too threatening. Just another cool looking lackey who is incredibly hard to beat. Only perhaps LoI, where he was the final boss, did he actually feel threatening.
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When it comes to entertainment, especially something like video games, people don't need to accept anything that they don't like.

I don't mean to be a dick, but it's surprising that reading the need to "stop living in the past and accepting change" hasn't turned into a CVDF drinking game by now. It has been written so many times after the release of LoS it's almost the equivalent of taking an arrow in the knee.
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Have you guys heard Michael Bay's reboot of TMNT includes an entirely different origin? They're gonna be aliens from another planet now, instead of mutants from the sewer.



ACCEPT CHANGE

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Have you guys heard Michael Bay's reboot of TMNT includes an entirely different origin? They're gonna be aliens from another planet now, instead of mutants from the sewer.



ACCEPT CHANGE
Now that's a travesty,and hey, we know it's the Pearl harbor guy. HOwever people will like the new fdirection, don't like it? don¿t buy the ticket and read the comics, don't like LoS? Don't buy it and keep playing the olds ones, Tadaaa!!

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NEW REBOOT IDEA

Spider man is no longer has spider powers but instead can shoot fake elastic web out of his butthole

ACCEPT CHANGE OR LEAVE


NEW REBOOT IDEA

Sonic is no longer a Hedgehog and instead will be a roadrunner who speaks spanish

ACCEPT CHANGE OR LEAVE


NEW REBOOT IDEA

Mario is no longer a plumber and will instead be a male stripper who fights prostitutes and pimps on street corners and his secrete hideout is in the sewers

ACCEPT CHANGE OR LEAVE


My point?

It not always the best idea to accept all changes.

Don't look down your nose at people like "oh you can't accept change, your so close minded! Just go and play your classic games and leave LOS alone!"


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Hahaha you gave a good laugh  ;D

Eh, no LoS changes were as drastic as those, hyperbole much? If the most irked aspect is the Belmont Dracula thing, think that many, and by many I mean MANY fans think Alucard is Trevor's father meaning the Belmonts in many people's minds are already Dracula descendants. I can't think in any other big difference to the old series, at all.

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Déjà freaking vu.


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Death from the original CV series was the type of Death that has always been around since the beginning.
I don't think so, because if that was the case, as Flame said, then humanity wouldn't stand a chance. Reaper could simply kill them all in one blast and that's it. His power as ultimate force of nature should have allowed him to do so.
It more lilkely that Reaper from CV either some sort of Reaper's avatar and has only small part of his actual power or he is not THAT Grim Reaper at all and some sort of demi-god thing that poses himself as creature from folklore.

I wish we could learn more about his real motives of helping Dracula, since it was hinted in Judgement that Reaper just using Dracula to further his own goals, but alas, it was just another small hint for something BIG that never will be explained properly because of "awesome" IGA-storytelling.

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When it comes to entertainment, especially something like video games, people don't need to accept anything that they don't like.
It's not about disliking, it's more about being repetetive as broken record in an effort to once again remind your opinion.

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Have you guys heard Michael Bay's reboot of TMNT includes an entirely different origin? They're gonna be aliens from another planet now, instead of mutants from the sewer.
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This change is quite unneccesary to say the least. Besides given the quality of the stories in Bay's movies (or lack of thereof) there is serious possibility of said movie being shit, just like Transformers. With ot without storyline changes.

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Funny and smart. And relevant to the topic at hand. Just as always. Not.  :-X

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If the most irked aspect is the Belmont Dracula thing, think that many, and by many I mean MANY fans think Alucard is Trevor's father meaning the Belmonts in many people's minds are already Dracula descendants. I can't think in any other big difference to the old series, at all.

erm yea, to bad Legends was put in the "non canon" part of CV history.

So your argument=flawed.


Funny and smart. And relevant to the topic at hand. Just as always. Not.  :-X


pompous and douche'like. And trying to start yet another argument with me. Just as always. Yea. :-X
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The lack of real Castlevania news is making this forum revert to old long LONG dead arguments.

Might as well be playing this in the background till June 5:

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The reason I say accept the fact that things change is because

A: There is very little that can be done to change Konami's mind,

And,

B: The argument I always hear is "remember back when", or " I miss the old days"

And it's a nostalgia attitude that really bothers me, because when taken seriously, can result in games like Mega Man 9 and 10, which are slobbering all over Mega Man 2's dick and riding on 8 bit MM2 nostalgia alone. Same for the Bad Box Art. and both have as we have seen there is no MM11, worn out their nostalgia factor.

I understand that people, especially gamers- hate change, but the fact is, Symphony of the Night did the same goddamn thing, changing everything people knew and took for granted about Castlevania, and it's hailed as the greatest game in the series.

Granted- a Reboot is a slightly different beast, but still, its like people just don't see or ignore the Castlevania elements LoS has simply because it is not the same thing they have known for the past decade or so. Simply and for no other reason than because it is a new continuity and doesn't follow the old one to the letter.

I mean, different strokes and such, I see it as a Classicvania in 3D while others see it as a blasphemy worthy of lynching Konami, but the "GOOD OL' DAYS" argument just doesn't do it for me as a valid reason for disliking a game. because all that tells me is you dislike it because it's new and different, and nothing more.
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erm yea, to bad Legends was put in the "non canon" part of CV history.
Learn your math.
CVL possibly hinted (it never ever was proved) that Trevor Belmont is the Dracula's grandson. However being Belmont - Grandson of the Dracula and Belmont = Dracula are not the same thing.
So your argument is flawed.
Bye-bye.  :P

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I mean, different strokes and such, I see it as a Classicvania in 3D while others see it as a blasphemy worthy of lynching Konami, but the "GOOD OL' DAYS" argument just doesn't do it for me as a valid reason for disliking a game. because all that tells me is you dislike it because it's new and different, and nothing more.
Truth as it is.

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Learn your math.
CVL possibly hinted (it never ever was proved) that Trevor Belmont is the Dracula's grandson. However being Belmont - Grandson of the Dracula and Belmont = Dracula are not the same thing.
So your argument is flawed.
Bye-bye.  :P
Truth as it is.

Learn to read.
I know what CVL was hinting at. I never said that it did not hint at that possibility. But it was place in the "non canon" part of the games when IGA and Konami released the official CV timeline.

So your argument is pointless...




I understand that people, especially gamers- hate change, but the fact is, Symphony of the Night did the same goddamn thing, changing everything people knew and took for granted about Castlevania, and it's hailed as the greatest game in the series.


woah woah woah there, easy there cowboy.

changed EVERYTHING?

The only thing that was changes was the gameplay mechanics If I recall correctly....unless you know something I do not.

classic Enemies where still there
storyline was still there
classic areas like the clocktower,castle keep, and main halls where still there.
classic music was still there.
classic characters where still there

So yea, didn't really change as much as LOS did at all.

And I don't think people hate ALL change.

Just the change LOS  brought about.

I for one loved the changes that came with the Batman reboots.

Its all a mater of personal taste really.


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