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They are still working on the 3DS, explain why Cox said, and bolded, that they are working on projectS, more than one. MS is a 100 people studio, no way they are making 2 AAA games.

@Thunderbird: The most legitimate news we have recently are those photos from motion capture proccess and Cox ridiculously teasing in twitter in a way it's not even funny.

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Not to sound lime a broken record, but I wonder if their other project they're working on is even Castlevania-related. It's probably a safe guess that it is, but in light of the past year or so, I don't want to make any assumptions either.
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When was it said the project was canned?

I don't think we're ever going to get Vania 3DS now, Konami is too busy milking MGS and Love Plus games to care.

Oh, please.

There hasn't been a console Metal Gear since 4 in 2008, which was in development for 5 years. Peace Walker was released in 2010. Rising has been cancelled and rebooted twice due to it not being up to Kojimas standards.

Aside from its HD collection (which every game series is "guilty" of right now), the only series that Konami is guilty of milking to death is Castlevania circa 2000 up to Lords of Shadow release.

Think about it.

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Oh, please.

There hasn't been a console Metal Gear since 4 in 2008, which was in development for 5 years. Peace Walker was released in 2010. Rising has been cancelled and rebooted twice due to it not being up to Kojimas standards.

Aside from its HD collection (which every game series is "guilty" of right now), the only series that Konami is guilty of milking to death is Castlevania circa 2000 up to Lords of Shadow release.

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Damn, you're actually right.

I guess I'm just impatient after how let down I was by LoS. :(


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Well, I personally prefer complete stories not some bit and pieces that could potentially be interesting, but never elaborate upon not because author can't do that, but because he  doesn't give a damn about it.
Wait, what?
And what about some general information why it did happen? It is very important thing to the Castlevania (old) timeline and to the OOE storyline. OOE was a perfect opportunity to finally let that cat out of bag. I mean, story was directly related to the Belmonts dissappearance and it never was properly explained why it happened in the first place. They just...dissappeared and that's it. Sorry, but it is shitty storytelling in its purest, no matter how you look at it.

And idea that you don't need to know all details in the story, works only when said details are really insiginificant. Other wise you just accept that author didn't care enough to explain important plot points and treat as it's a normal thing. For that matter Belmonts disapperance is not an insignificant detail by any margin.
I think for OoE it was more of a setting thing. Building mystery with omission. The plot itself was not terribly involved with the Belmont sub-plot except for a plot by Balthier that only required the whereabouts of the Belmonts, and not why they were amnesia-stricken. Though it would be interesting to know why! But Shanoa or the player knowing wouldn't affect the story at all. Instead, it would probably give rise to a desire to see that conflict resolved, despite that not being the premise of the story. If that would happen, the story would become convoluted because it'd gain two conflicts with competing importance.

In regards to the meta-story, it's mostly vague rather than filled with a lack of logic or inconsistency. Of course, you said that. But while incomplete, it still doesn't contradict itself. So I don't really find those sort of elements detrimental to the storytelling. I'm not sure how it's really significant when it's never directly referenced in a way so that the plot, internal logic, or conflict demands it.

Now a real plot hole would be SoTN's inverted castle. because how does that even pop up, why is shaft a ghost still, i thought he was defeated, god iga you are terrible go rot in hell why dont yu asasd  i

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According to the PoR timeline poster, Shaft was a ghost ever since Drac X, because he placed his spirit in an orb or something like that. So, he died only after Al shattered it before fighting his dad.


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Do I spy Belmont (Sumac) and Dracula (A-Yty) going at it in this thread?  Holy water arcs out but Drac just laughs and teleports.

THE LEGENDARY BATTLE CONTINUES.

I get this impression that when Sumac plays the game he will be quite intent on taking down every enemy in the damnable castle (must check your Marathon thread!)--a very focussed individual.


It's my feeling that some mystery and mystique is everything and more for a dark series like Castlevania.  I don’t necessarily want to know the full background of characters like Death or Shaft.  The more story 'hiding-behind', I would say INDEED the more 'bad-ass' they seem.  Make a vague mention of an event of piece of history by all means, but leaving it open-ended is not a bad thing.   Allows us to use our imagination.

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They are still working on the 3DS, explain why Cox said, and bolded, that they are working on projectS, more than one.

Yeah, until it got canned.

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Yeah, until it got canned.
Prove it.

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You prove it didn't.

Here, take a look and see if there was any mention of it; http://www.castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/index.php/topic,2165.0.html

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Have fun. I'll be waiting for the next 3 months while you sort through all of that. The clock's ticking.

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^^^

Man what a mess that thread ended up being. The only thing that could top that clustermuck of a thread is well....Lords of Shadow 2.

Also, even long after the game was announced and released, the thread title still remained the same lol.
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Nice to see them rolling (or plank-walking, get it, it's a really funny joke) along. But what is SIDE? Uzo, industry guru, do you know?

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You prove it didn't.


The burden would be on you to cite the source since you're actually making the claim.
So far no information of the sort has been cited, and I for one have never seen Cox specify that. If he did, cite it. Cripes.
If there's nothing to cite, I vote for dropping the whole argument.
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