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Re: Judgment: canon or not?
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2012, 05:17:12 AM »
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CotM: I believe it was confirmed in a Japanese magazine
Konami Magazine (Japanese Konami's free magazine) VOL 20, 12 page.
http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/File:Konamimagazinevolume20-page012.jpg

本作のストーリーは、今までのベルモント家やモリス家とは異なる時間軸で流れていく。
"This story is a time axis different from the former Belmont family and Morris family"

But I couldn't find the same sentences "time axis" except for this.
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Re: Judgment: canon or not?
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2012, 06:49:14 AM »
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Most games these days have stories. How would all those characters meet up unless time's natural flow was being disregarded somehow?

True. I suppose that doesn't really say much. 

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Re: Judgment: canon or not?
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2012, 08:34:37 AM »
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I think that you should question IGA. "Did you get fired from the producer of Castlevania series?"

That'd be kinda rude to ask =3

Perhaps something more subtle like if Konami is still open to making more 2D or 2.5D Castlevanias or CVs on the original timeline.

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Re: Judgment: canon or not?
« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2012, 08:38:55 AM »
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Re: Judgment: canon or not?
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2012, 09:12:40 AM »
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I think it's supposed to be canon.

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Re: Judgment: canon or not?
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2012, 09:18:45 AM »
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@Naggermo,

you should ask iga if he's aware of the Anti-Chapel/Dungeon forums, because we're his biggest fans. Ask him that for us??

Also, if he still has a 3DS kit ;)

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Re: Judgment: canon or not?
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2012, 12:25:52 PM »
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I think that Castlevania timeline (original) just gives a perfect opportunity to bring all characters together via timetravel. There is really nothing else that you can do to unite them in one single game.

If rumors are correct than initial roster of the CV64 should have consisted of Simon Belmont, Maria Renard, Reinhardt Cornell and Corler. If that's the true, then I still wonder how they intended to make Simon and Maria co-exist in the same timeframe?

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Re: Judgment: canon or not?
« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2012, 04:37:03 PM »
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If judgment is indeed, canon, its story would reticon the battle of 1999 in theory, cause why would gala need to send the time reaper back in time to destroy dracula, he should be dead. time reaper: "I came from 10,000 years hence forth" so it would be same to assume Soma does in fact become dracula, or dracula never perished and returned in 2099 or 2100, going by the AOS in game facts that he supposidly died in 1999. then again judgment could take place in an alternate dimesion, giving the fact Aeon is basicly like St Germain, a keeper of the order of time, to many variables and no sequels likely ever to clear things up, at least smash brothers cleared some stuff up with brawl and raised further questions
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Re: Judgment: canon or not?
« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2012, 11:13:00 PM »
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I think Galamoth wanted to erase Dracula from ever existing.  From the few bits we know of his story, Galamoth wanted to be the Dark Lord and Dracula kept that from happening.  Galamoth is obviously no match for Dracula, or his son, so the easiest way to defeat him would be by erasing him from reality.

This also brings up the interesting idea that Dracula, although "evil", really does serve a vital role in keeping the forces of darkness in check.  Aeon obviously knew that Galamoth would have been a far worse Dark Lord, probably causing unbridled chaos in the world.  So he chose to aid Dracula, who seems to follow certain rules about when he can return, what he can and can't do, and generally controlling the all the creatures of chaos that the castle spawns. 
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Re: Judgment: canon or not?
« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2012, 10:17:35 AM »
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This also brings up the interesting idea that Dracula, although "evil", really does serve a vital role in keeping the forces of darkness in check.  Aeon obviously knew that Galamoth would have been a far worse Dark Lord, probably causing unbridled chaos in the world.  So he chose to aid Dracula, who seems to follow certain rules about when he can return, what he can and can't do, and generally controlling the all the creatures of chaos that the castle spawns.

And why not. Dracula maybe the embodiment of all that is evil in CV however he is an East-European nobleman with set-standards, just like Vlad was during his reign. He was a tyrant and murdered thousands (grotesquely I might add) but he kept order in his poor, sickened, war-ravaged country and even protected it from foreign invaders such as the Ottoman Empire. If someone like Galamoth comes in it'll be nothing but utter chaos which would mean that Earth as we know it and see it, would be non-existent. Is Galamoth more evil the Dracula? I have my doubts. While Dracula has proven himself as evil in nature, Galamoth comes off to me as a 'Chaotic wild beast' with absolutely no shread of order. Both "Evil" and "Chaos" are different in the natural world. Evil comes from the the darkness of human emotions, thoughts and feelings whilst chaos is the opposite of order. Chaos isn't evil, it's just chaos. It wouldn't make any sense to look at it because it's chaos and our minds are grounded in order and logic. I think Galamoth is a threat based on that he is chaos and not evil. No one can live in a chaotic world.
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Re: Judgment: canon or not?
« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2012, 12:23:21 PM »
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I view Judgement as in the same vein as Capcom Vs SNK, King Of Fighters, Capcom vs Tatsunoko, NeoGeo Battle Colliseum, and the like.

I mean, really, a guy can spam fireballs out of his hands and people are pissing themselves about someone a guy wearing spandex with a high-tensile liquid grappling compound hidden under his sleeve? (MvC) You mean Nakoruru could be one of Athena's biggest fans? (NGBC) Epic showdown between Chun-Li and Haohmaru! (CVS)

Hell, even KOF series has continuity issues that prove the game series isn't canon to anything, just a mash-up of other games. (Although back when Mai and Andy were both staple characters, there was some continuity there, but that was about it). ... Hell, Clark and Ralph don't even recognize each other anymore! (Has to do with Playmore sucking ass, more than anything.)

So no, I don't think it's canon. I think IGA is just trying to make Judgement sound like it's not simply another mash-up. But it is. All mash-ups have shitty plot excuses to explain why everyone's together. MvC3 had the intro video to do that. Hell, though. At least SNK never really gave a shit. They're like, "Yeah, we'll mix a bunch of characters together from various franchises and have them fight to stop a powerful enemy. How did they all come together? Fuck it, who cares?"
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Re: Judgment: canon or not?
« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2012, 12:32:51 PM »
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That's why i lol when someone says the Smash Bros. series has a story/plot. you gotta be kidding me lmao

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Re: Judgment: canon or not?
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2012, 03:07:30 PM »
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Hell, even KOF series has continuity issues that prove the game series isn't canon to anything, just a mash-up of other games.
Actually KOF probably on of the rare examples of stable continuty in the fighting games genre (aside form non-aging characters). Developers always put a huge amount of attention at the storyline, so saying that series doesn't have contiunity is a bit of a stretch, to say the least.
The only non-continuty game in the series are "compilation games" KOF98, KOF2002 and KOF12.

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Re: Judgment: canon or not?
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2012, 09:20:15 PM »
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Point taken.

Which is also why KOF is the best 2D fighter on the old market. Sorry, but SF just looks and sounds stupid, especially later ones. I never did like it. The graphics were too cartoony/bulky and the soundtrack was forgettable. But I remember when I played my first KOF game. And the next. And the next. And listened to the soundtrack. And again. And again. And again. SNK just made better fighters, period.  Morrigan and Felicia are hot and all, but Athena survives the test of time. ... But I'm getting off track here...

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Re: Judgment: canon or not?
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2012, 09:37:09 PM »
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well, we're not supposed to think too hard about this.  so each fan should just believe what their gut tells them. 

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