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Re: Most Overated game(s) In Your Opinion
« Reply #75 on: April 07, 2012, 04:25:47 AM »
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Just because it is not mainstream doesn't mean it cannot be overated.

Are you talking about Doom? Cause dude, doom is the most "mainstream" PC game ever. At least it used to be 15 years ago. I remember that I was 10 and every fucking person with a win95 used to have Doom on it.

For FF7, yeah, I think this game deserves a remake. PS1 graphics doesn't do it justice. I believe there's a sequel for it on PSP, but it's still not a remake. They really should make a remake.

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Re: Most Overated game(s) In Your Opinion
« Reply #76 on: April 07, 2012, 12:55:44 PM »
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It actually is, though!
But it's not?
GoW has only a few flaws here & there, but they're nothing so glaring that it makes you go "WTF THEY REALLY SCREWED THAT PART UP, THIS GAME IS SHIT NOW." I DO see & acknowledge the few (too much reliance on QTE's, design errors in some boss fights especially the scorpion in GoW3, to name a few), but they're not game-breaking in the least. FF7, on the other hand, has been heavily criticized thousands of times more than GoW, because it contains way more flaws (and it has 6 previous entries to live up to).

Over reliance on QTE is quite a glaring flaw.
You basically said "the game is shit, because it has flaws & the praise/accolades it's received are unwarranted because of it's flaws." That's just not true, but hey, that's how you feel. It's not overrated, it's rated just fine. The reviewers point out it's flaws but like I said, the good far outweighs the bad and it's obvious. Can any game just be good or excellent nowadays without it instantly being labelled "pff, overrated, NEXT"? I'm just staunchly defending it because I said I would... and I'm a man of my word *joker voice*

No, I said it's shit... because I think it's shit. Flaws, do help out in that department though. I'm not gonna deny that. Lots of games can be excellent without it being called overrated. GoW is definitely not one of them.


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Re: Most Overated game(s) In Your Opinion
« Reply #77 on: April 07, 2012, 01:40:02 PM »
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But it's not?
Are you asking me a question?

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Over reliance on QTE is quite a glaring flaw.
QTEs are part of the game's makeup, some battles were designed with them in mine, like in RE4. They're not hard to do, just press a few buttons in order, and they flow with the gameplay. OMG GLARING FLAW. Other copycat games are more guilty with the "over reliance," and they do them worse. That's almost like saying "constantly changing weapons in Symphony is a flaw because you're forced to do it."

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No, I said it's shit... because I think it's shit.
So your argument has basically been "it's overrated because I think it's shit," or
"it's shit because I think it's overrated."

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Re: Most Overated game(s) In Your Opinion
« Reply #78 on: April 07, 2012, 06:17:27 PM »
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Are you asking me a question?
QTEs are part of the game's makeup, some battles were designed with them in mine, like in RE4. They're not hard to do, just press a few buttons in order, and they flow with the gameplay. OMG GLARING FLAW. Other copycat games are more guilty with the "over reliance," and they do them worse. That's almost like saying "constantly changing weapons in Symphony is a flaw because you're forced to do it."
So your argument has basically been "it's overrated because I think it's shit," or
"it's shit because I think it's overrated."

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Rhetorically, yes.

That's what makes it such a glaring flaw, using a bad system as a crux on which the game rests.

No, that isn't my argument, I've already given you my argument. That line was simply there to express that it's shit because it is shit (obviously due to the reason I've been giving)

EDIT: If you've noticed... I didn't just say it sucks because it sucks without reasons.

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Re: Most Overated game(s) In Your Opinion
« Reply #79 on: April 07, 2012, 08:24:46 PM »
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Well that's an absolute lame reason(s) to say something is shit/overrated, since what you consider a "flaw" really isn't a game-breaking one in the least. I still respect your opinion, though.


Likewise, if someone were to say "SMB3 is overrated amongst platformers because it contains Tanooki & Frog suits which is glitchy as hell," I would have the same or similar reaction. SMB3 is damn-near platforming perfection in my eyes, despite it's glitches/flaws, and I see GoW in the same fashion, which is why I'm so passionate in defending it  :)

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