Topic: I finally actually read the Jap CV3 intro

[Flame]

LoI? Oh most definitely. In motivation, anyway.

[TheouAegis]

Just because Alucard is a dhampir doesn't specifically make D a vampire. If Alucard was conceived and born under some alechmic influence, he could have acquired his vampiric traits vis-a-vis his conception whilst D still remained a powerful human sorceror. Vampirism isn't genetic. And as we've been tossing around back and forth, D hasn't been following traditional vampire lore, so we can't explicitly assume a dhampir is born between the conception of a human and a full-blown vampire. Hell, Alucard could be a homonculus raised with the belief that he actually had a mother. We never see him born, do we?  It's all just hear-say.

[Flame]

Dracula mentions Lisa in SoTN. He even asks Alucard upon his defeat what her last words were, validating Alucard's presence at her burning.

Also, again, even if Dracula has vampiric traits by Sorcery and alchemy, he is STILL a vampire. He is an immortal who drinks blood, can turn others into vampires, burns in sunlight, (according to some of the games and popular culture, although it contradicts Bram Stoker) Is weak to holy weapons and items, etc etc. He has all the traits of the Vampire. Even though he was not sired and brought about his transformation through alchemical means, he should still be called a Vampire. The only thing is he is in a league of his own due to it's origins, and the fact that he is not JUST a Vampire, but a powerful Sorcerer and Alchemist, strong enough to raise a supernatural magical fortress for himself, that crumbles upon his death, control and summon legions of the undead and demons, and has become bound to the force of Chaos, which fuels his power.

He's not JUST a Vampire, certainly no ORDINARY Vampire, but he is STILL a Vampire nonetheless, and Alucard inherited half of his Vampiric genetic code, and seemingly some of his magical ability as well- the ability to steal souls seems to have become an essential part of Dracula's being, of his very soul, with or without the Crimson Stone, An ability passed down somewhat to Alucard, (SOUL STEAL!) and inherited by his Human reincarnation Soma.

[Nagumo]

Although I agree that Alucard was probably born as a dhampir, to give TheouAegis some credit, the Japanese manual of CV3 does say he was human before Dracula made his pact with the evil deity.

But they forgot about that, I guess. whoops

[beingthehero]

Vampire Killer's manual states that Simon's adventure was in the 11th century, so some details from the old manuals have been changed a wee bit over time.

[crisis]

your signature is driving me fucking crazy bro

[Flame]

Ive seen it's source, and it's really not much more than the sig. The wig falls on his head and he looks at his reflection, aaaand the trailer/discussion thing ends right about there.

[Super Waffle]

It's like a flying Medusa head, except instead of annoying you by knocking you off of ledges it just makes you cosplay Dante.

[Nagumo]

Vampire Killer's manual states that Simon's adventure was in the 11th century, so some details from the old manuals have been changed a wee bit over time.

Actually, I think tend to pay good intention to details established in the old manuals for the most part. Vampire Killer's manual doesn't really specify any time period, except that it takes place in the middle ages. It does mention the 10th century but only as background exposition that isn't really relevant to anything really.

[Hypocrates]

Ive seen it's source, and it's really not much more than the sig. The wig falls on his head and he looks at his reflection, aaaand the trailer/discussion thing ends right about there.

I think he also says something like, "No, not in a million years."

And that really pissed off a lot of fans.

But yeah, that's about it.

[Flame]

what i saw didn't have that line, so i dunno.

[Ratty]

your signature is driving me fucking crazy bro

If you've got adblockerplus, just right click and "block element http:/24.media.tumblr...etc.", all taken care of. Be careful when you do it though or you might accidentally block embedded images/sigs on the board in general, though even if you do that it's not hard to undo.

I think he also says something like, "No, not in a million years."

And that really pissed off a lot of fans.

But yeah, that's about it.

When it comes to Capcom's epically spiteful trolling of it's own fans though, nothing will top that NES cover art Megaman in Steet Fighter x Tekken.

[Flame]

Yeah, but it's not EVEN the BBA MM. it's BBAMM with like, 50 extra pounds of weight. I get that it was supposed to tie in with Universe and L3, but with the cancellation of both, the joke just plain falls flat and comes off as bad taste and poor judgement that they decided to go along with it...

[justin312]

I think there's a couple interesting points from this.

First, this intro very specifically identifies Dracula as the historical Vlad The Impaler.  It also makes clear that Dracula obtained his evil powers in the 15th century.  If it is established in this game that the Vlad Dracula from history is also the Castlevania Dracula, and that he obtained his powers through dark means in the 15th century... doesn't that mean that the plot of Lament of Innocence took major liberties with the story from CV3, and the Castlevania story in general up to that point?  Unless Matthias is not Dracula and has no part to play in the story after Lament, that game basically "retcons" CV Dracula being Vlad the Impaler, which was established in CV3.

The other thing made clear is that Trevor's battle with Dracula happened a century before Simon's. I know that both CV3 and Castlevania Adventure said the same thing, but this being the "main series" game on the console, and Adventure being the side series on the handheld (and a broken game to boot), doesn't the "tie" go to the main series game?  Shouldn't it have been Christopher's adventure that got bumped a century for the sake of continuity and a unified timeline?

[Gaawa-chan]

First, this intro very specifically identifies Dracula as the historical Vlad The Impaler.  It also makes clear that Dracula obtained his evil powers in the 15th century.  If it is established in this game that the Vlad Dracula from history is also the Castlevania Dracula, and that he obtained his powers through dark means in the 15th century... doesn't that mean that the plot of Lament of Innocence took major liberties with the story from CV3, and the Castlevania story in general up to that point?  Unless Matthias is not Dracula and has no part to play in the story after Lament, that game basically "retcons" CV Dracula being Vlad the Impaler, which was established in CV3.

Not if you assume that Matthias IS Vlad the Impaler.  Ever heard of Matthias Corvinus?

"At times Matthias had Vlad III the Impaler (his second degree cousin, known to Romanians as Vlad Țepeș), Prince of Wallachia, as his ally. Although Vlad had great success against the Ottoman armies, the two Christian rulers disagreed in 1462, leading to Matthias imprisoning Vlad in Buda. However, wide-ranging support from many Western leaders[who?] for Vlad III prompted Matthias to gradually grant privileged status to his controversial prisoner. Vlad was eventually freed and married Matthias' cousin, Ilona Szilagyi. As the Ottoman Empire appeared to be increasingly threatening as Vlad Țepeș had warned, he was sent to reconquer Wallachia with Hungarian support in 1476. Despite the earlier disagreements between the two leaders, it was ultimately a major blow to Hungary's status in Wallachia when Vlad was assassinated that same year."

Hmmmmmmm...  After all, Castlevania-verse is an alternate version of our own.