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My Vampire Killer whip question
« on: January 22, 2013, 08:26:51 PM »
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Hi there just wanted to ask something that’s been on my mind for some time.

Does anyone knows why some members of the Belmont clan’s Vampire Killer is a chain whip and others have leather whip. Is it something to do with power levels or which one matches the wielder’s personality best Has someone on the CV team ever said why, Is there a fan idea ?
So yeah thanks for the read.  :D

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Re: My Vampire Killer whip question
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2013, 08:57:09 PM »
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It's purely just for gameplay purposes. There's no plot-point how or why it transforms from leather to chain, but if you need an explanation, just chalk it up to "magic," nothing more!

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Re: My Vampire Killer whip question
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2013, 09:07:07 PM »
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The first time I heard about this special-ultra unique whip "Vampire Killer" was in Lament of Innocence. Simon from Simon's Quest are using several whips along the way. For example, one of them is called "Morning Star". "Flame Whip", "Chain whip", but no Vampire killer. There are 2 or 3 games in the series where "Vampire Killer" is mentioned.

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Re: My Vampire Killer whip question
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2013, 09:20:41 PM »
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I may be remembering this wrong, but I believe the first mention of the whip being "unique" and not just an ordinary whip was first mentioned in CVAdventure's manual. It was described as the "Whip of Christopher's ancestors," the "ancestral Holy Whip of the Belmonts" or something like that.

If it wasn't CVA then it was another early CV game.

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Re: My Vampire Killer whip question
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2013, 09:32:42 PM »
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It was mentioned as being enchanted way back in '86.

http://www.vgmuseum.com/mrp/vkill/documents/CVVKJ.txt

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Re: My Vampire Killer whip question
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2013, 09:37:20 PM »
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yeah but now all that has been shifted  so that all Belmonts use the vampire killer whip.

And yeah if i remember  right in the fist game's  manual they called it  the magic whip so i'm not sure when it was dubbed Vampire killer.

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Re: My Vampire Killer whip question
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2013, 10:06:56 PM »
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I believe LoI or PoR may have been the first time it was officially called the Vampire Killer, but of course the name comes from the overseas release of the MSX2 Akumajo Dracula, making it seem like that was always the official name.

I have always understood the different forms to be shape-shifting upgrades that reflect the power of its user.  It could be argued that every whip used in Simon's Quest is just a different form of the magic-infused Vampire Killer.  In ordinary circumstances, it seems to remain in the form of a leather bullwhip, and as it gathers power, it will shift according to the will of its user.  In Haunted Castle, it even morphs into a sword, which just seems weird to most CV fans.  LoI definitely provides the most in-depth history of how the Whip of Alchemy became the Vampire Killer, but PoI goes into greater detail about how it's connected to the wielder's health and capability.
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Re: My Vampire Killer whip question
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2013, 10:21:44 PM »
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yeah i always thought it was connected to the users, its cool to see some else does too.
And it would make sense as richter  can't  power the whip up as it already at its max and they call him one of the most powerful  Belmonts. So it all really fits nicely. 

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Re: My Vampire Killer whip question
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2013, 11:43:50 PM »
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I've always considered Simon to be the greatest of the Belmonts, but I guess that might be a boring viewpoint.  Richter is definitely one of the most developed.
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Re: My Vampire Killer whip question
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2013, 11:54:36 PM »
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I don't know the first time the whip was called Vampire Killer offhand, but it was at least as early as '94.




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Re: My Vampire Killer whip question
« Reply #10 on: January 23, 2013, 12:27:28 AM »
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No its not a boring view point, i just read on the CV wiki that Richter was the most powerful but i don't know what they base it on so yeah Simon  could be the best whose to say.

And 94 huh thanks i will note that as its always helpful to know this sort of thing.

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Re: My Vampire Killer whip question
« Reply #11 on: January 23, 2013, 12:31:40 AM »
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I don't know the first time the whip was called Vampire Killer offhand, but it was at least as early as '94.



Good catch.  I head-slapped myself for not remembering that, especially since I was playing Bloodlines as recently as LAST WEEK!!     Duh....
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Re: My Vampire Killer whip question
« Reply #12 on: January 23, 2013, 12:33:24 AM »
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Does anyone knows why some members of the Belmont clan’s Vampire Killer is a chain whip and others have leather whip. Is it something to do with power levels or which one matches the wielder’s personality best Has someone on the CV team ever said why, Is there a fan idea ?

Game mechanics and artistic preference is what we see throughout the series for the Vampire Killer. My personal taste is the Vampirekiller looking like an 8 foot long chain whip with a morning star spiked ball at it's tip. The art that shows this type of Vampire killer in the art is Rondo of blood, SNES Dracula X, and Super Castlevania IV.
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Re: My Vampire Killer whip question
« Reply #13 on: January 23, 2013, 12:34:18 AM »
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This has always perplexed me too. Maybe:

1. During the Belmonts' many quests to defeat Dracula, they each were able to temporarily  upgrade the Vampire Killer in some way, maybe through some type of magic.

2. Every time a Belmont defeated Dracula the Vampire Killer grew in strength and by the time it was handed down to Richter it was at maximum power.

3. Richter was the strongest Belmont and was able to wield the whip at maximum power. Once it was passed from the Belmonts to the Morris' it's power weakened and retrograded.

Either way, I think had Richter and Alucard actually fought, Richter would have annihilated Alucard and the world would have been doomed. Good thing for Maria's help and for the Holy Glasses.

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Re: My Vampire Killer whip question
« Reply #14 on: January 23, 2013, 12:49:33 AM »
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Yeah that  sounds really cool too.

growing stronger very time it kills him  i like that.