Topic: Another pretentious indie game yet...

[Abnormal Freak]

S'all good. I know how frustrating it can be at times when you're not seeing the kinds of games you'd like to be made. My own tastes are incredibly picky these days and not many developers are offering what I desire to play. But I'd never begrudge someone their likes and interests. I hate the Call of Duty series. Absolutely loathe. But how do I know a game in the series doesn't mean the same to some kid as the Super NES meant to me growing up?

Thankfully, there's still games I enjoy, and a lot of them are coming from indie developers, and many of which take things a step further than emulating action platformers of yesteryear. I love those types of new games, too; Contra 4 is great, but it's fun to have some variety and new and different things.

Sorry for being a bit harsh in my last post.

[Pfil]

Yes, it's very frustrating. When I come home from working, all I want is a nice game to enjoy. And it's not happening lately.

No, it's OK, I was the harsh one.
My best greetings.

[Inccubus]

Guacamelee seems like "Super Metroid + Castlevania + Batman - Gadgets". Just sayin'. With the Day of the Dead thing I can see why the comparison to CV; metroidvania cliche notwithstanding.

If you want to see some pretentiousness in gaming, I invite you to watch the trailer for Metal Gear Solid V. On second thought, don't. Wait until you're having a better week.

[Puwexil]

I liked that trailer. Oops. I guess that speaks for what I'm talking about.

Our tastes clearly don't align, Pfil, but they don't really need to. Acknowledging that other viewpoints exist and are equally as valid for other people, as well as there being various means of conveying them, is all I'm trying to say here.

[Successor The Cruel]

Seems to me like the reviewer was the pretentious one. It doesn't sound to me like the game asks any of those questions or portrays any of what he imagined up. Also, comparing Samus Aran to an archeologist makes me think that he never actually played the early Metroid games because it's made pretty clear that Samus was raised by the Chozo and she's concerned with eradicating the metroids, not uncovering the history of the ancient Chozo since, yeah, she already knows all about them.

Perhaps it's beside the point, but having grown up with Metroid, I had no idea Samus was raised by the Chozo until more recently. From what I could tell in the "olden dayz," she was a galactic bounty hunter doing a job for the Federation, who was concerned about space pirates using the Metroids as weapons. I didn't know how she was raised and I didn't care :T
Though, perhaps I somehow missed something?

[Lelygax]

Mother Brain is a creation of the Chozos, "she?" rebelled against the Chozos and with the help of the Space Pirates wanted to conquer the galaxy. You can discover in Super Mario Galazy that its all Bowser pulling the strings though.

[Maedhros]

So...
The games I "championed" in this thread as good examples of many things were:

Final Fantasy VI
Chrono Trigger
Valkyrie Profile 2
Super Metroid
Star Ocean: The Last Hope
Eternal Sonata
Cave Story
La Mulana
Touhou
RosenkreuzStillette
Portrait of Ruin
Order of Eclessia
Mirror of Fate
Contra: Rebirth
FF4: The After Years
Sonic 4
Modern Warfare 3

Only 2 of them are good...

OK... 

Sonic 4 being on the list invalidates everithing you said.

I can't take you seriously anymore.

[Lelygax]

I liked Sonic 4, but its very flawerd. The only way to acquire full speed is using spindash and then jimping. Its like if they really put a Sonic that didnt exercised his legs since Sonic 3 in this game.

[Pfil]

Sonic 4 was on the list as an example of a recent game in 2D that plays in a way that I enjoy (platforming, never mind the flaws... I personally prefer a lot of games like Sonic 4 and not a lot of puzzle indie games... and anyway, it was nice to have Sonic back in its full experience after so many years, so the mistakes of the game and the obvious fact that it was inferior to the Genesis games, were overshadowed by the joy of playing a new Sonic in 2D).
But be cool, this game isn't even on my Top 100 list. Although, Sonic 4 Episode 2 had a great soundtrack.

These are the games I mentioned that DID make it to my personal Top 100:

Final Fantasy VI
Chrono Trigger
Valkyrie Profile 2
Super Metroid
Star Ocean: The Last Hope
Eternal Sonata
RosenkreuzStillette
Portrait of Ruin
Order of Eclessia

Another day, I can post the complete ranking so anyone with a ranking can post it, and comment on mine's.

[X]

I didn't enjoy sonic 4 at all. The game looked spectacular, but that's all it had going for it. The game engine itself was off. I could feel it when I played the game and it made playing the game far more of a hassle then it needed to be. I couldn't even pass the beginning of the casino stage because the sonic game physics just wasn't there to utilize. What they should have done was keep the original sonic & Knuckles engine and then Sonic 4 would have been really great to play.

[Lelygax]

Well said. If they used this engine I could have enjoyed even more this game. +1

[Pfil]

That is true. I also don't like the lock feature.
But to me, it prevailed the fact that I was playing a new Sonic.
And also, I loved the look and music of the game.
But yes, the controls were a little broken if I have to be objective.

[Pfil]

I liked that trailer. Oops. I guess that speaks for what I'm talking about.

Our tastes clearly don't align, Pfil, but they don't really need to. Acknowledging that other viewpoints exist and are equally as valid for other people, as well as there being various means of conveying them, is all I'm trying to say here.

It's OK. Everything's fine. We all have different tastes.
+1 for you, I'm still sorry for being rude with my answer yesterday.

[Neobelmont]

Hmm I little to no knowledge about the independent gaming department so I do not have much of an opinion on it. However I will say that the reason I have little interest is well, I've seen nothing that makes me want to play most of them. The only one I guess that is an indie game that I have touched is cave story from my understanding and I like that.

As for the article well have not read it yet and what is this about a ad blocker?

I do however wonder what is pretentious about the article.

[Lelygax]

I'd read it, but IGN's site is so overbloated with ads that I can't even load their site on any of my computers.

Thats why I ever use adblock plus.

Pay more attention, after all its a post that I made right after he mentioned that. xD
I use adblock because of all this java and flash fest that happens without we even noticing, tracking us without asking and bloating sites.