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« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2013, 02:32:49 PM »
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It's the arrogant upstart mentality you see a lot nowadays.
Add the Corporate Culture you see now to this and you already have the perfect recipe for the death of an industry...or at least some companies. I wonder how Nintendo's doing?
It is precisely because it never cared, that people do care.  It's something which it's lacking, because that which it has, it has lackluster of.
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« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2013, 03:02:25 PM »
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Even if big companies went out of business, gaming industry won't really ever collapse. It would just change.

Back in my neck of the woods, I'm actually hoping for the opposite. As in, I wish at least one company would keep itself after its big break. But usually a bigger company buys them and/or their IP. And I don't mean companies that make minigames or social media games. They make money and that's cool, but it's not what I'm talking about.


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« Reply #32 on: April 19, 2013, 03:21:38 PM »
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Even if big companies went out of business, gaming industry won't really ever collapse. It would just change.

Back in my neck of the woods, I'm actually hoping for the opposite. As in, I wish at least one company would keep itself after its big break. But usually a bigger company buys them and/or their IP. And I don't mean companies that make minigames or social media games. They make money and that's cool, but it's not what I'm talking about.
I wouldn't want ANY of these companies to collapse. I'd rather have them come to a sudden epiphany regarding their situations and the means to change it. A lot of these companies gave use such great franchises in the past, so they ARE capable, when their heart is in the right place, of doing GREAT things. They just got to reconnect to that adventurous spirit. It might be wishful thinking, and these companies might be too far gone with a case of the serious stubborns, but I still hope for the best. I think it really is a case of the whole "blinded by their own hubris". They hit big with "something", and makes them think they can do no wrong. And even after failure, they still continue to think they are doing more right than they are wrong, and every chance at turning the situation around(a crossroads where they can either choose the RIGHT path or WRONG path), they continue to dig their holes deeper. It's kinda like I mentioned in another thread, the whole drug addict mentality. They are chasing the dragon.

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« Reply #33 on: April 19, 2013, 03:30:58 PM »
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I wouldn't want ANY of these companies to collapse. I'd rather have them come to a sudden epiphany regarding their situations and the means to change it. A lot of these companies gave use such great franchises in the past, so they ARE capable, when their heart is in the right place, of doing GREAT things. They just got to reconnect to that adventurous spirit. It might be wishful thinking, and these companies might be too far gone with a case of the serious stubborns, but I still hope for the best. I think it really is a case of the whole "blinded by their own hubris". They hit big with "something", and makes them think they can do no wrong. And even after failure, they still continue to think they are doing more right than they are wrong, and every chance at turning the situation around(a crossroads where they can either choose the RIGHT path or WRONG path), they continue to dig their holes deeper. It's kinda like I mentioned in another thread, the whole drug addict mentality. They are chasing the dragon.

If they want to chase a dragon so be it, but like many knights in the stories they will fall till that one knight comes and defeats it. But even then will some "knights" change their ways afterwards?
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« Reply #34 on: April 19, 2013, 03:36:53 PM »
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I think we all saw this coming when Cox made his comments about Castlevania during the production phase of the first LoS game. All I can say is that 'the writing was on the wall.'
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« Reply #35 on: April 19, 2013, 03:50:45 PM »
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I think it all depends on the knight's armor. Take Arthur from Ghosts n Goblins for instance; one hit from the weakest of enemies & the armor immediately collapses. Armor made of durable metal should be able to withstand at least a couple of attacks, so this is very odd. If you use that same armor against the dragon then you're pretty much committing suicide. I think you first have to re-evaluate the situation by perhaps carrying a shield with you, and paying the extra gold to afford a better blacksmith to create a stronger armor. But you also must take into account any magical abilities the dragon might possess. The armor will have to no doubt be enchanted to deflect the altering magic and maybe turn it into mana. Dragons have minimal intelligence so it all depends on the knight, however he must not underestimate the dragon because the dragon could be centuries old which equates to a long battle history. Dragons don't need to be einsteins to kill a knight. It's mostly brute force. But if the knight comes prepared with enchanted armor, shield and mighty sword, perhaps even a trinket of good luck from his beloved or fallen comrade, then the knight indeed has a chance in slaying the dragon and freeing the countryside of the dragon's oppressing evil. That's just my 2 cents on the matter.

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« Reply #36 on: April 19, 2013, 03:55:22 PM »
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I think it all depends on the knight's armor. Take Arthur from Ghosts n Goblins for instance; one hit from the weakest of enemies & the armor immediately collapses. Armor made of durable metal should be able to withstand at least a couple of attacks, so this is very odd. If you use that same armor against the dragon then you're pretty much committing suicide. I think you first have to re-evaluate the situation by perhaps carrying a shield with you, and paying the extra gold to afford a better blacksmith to create a stronger armor. But you also must take into account any magical abilities the dragon might possess. The armor will have to no doubt be enchanted to deflect the altering magic and maybe turn it into mana. Dragons have minimal intelligence so it all depends on the knight, however he must not underestimate the dragon because the dragon could be centuries old which equates to a long battle history. Dragons don't need to be einsteins to kill a knight. It's mostly brute force. But if the knight comes prepared with enchanted armor, shield and mighty sword, perhaps even a trinket of good luck from his beloved or fallen comrade, then the knight indeed has a chance in slaying the dragon and freeing the countryside of the dragon's oppressing evil. That's just my 2 cents on the matter.

Yet what are the chances of most of these knights doing this? Their pride and ego blind them thus killing themselves in the end.

But I will say Sir Atlus, Sir Nintendo, and even Sir monolith (soft) are shining examples of knights that are dragon slayers.
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« Reply #37 on: April 19, 2013, 05:11:44 PM »
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Terribad. 1.1M copies as of right now.

It's really sad that a game can sell this much and still be considered a failure. Companies really need to think about aligning expectations with reality and start budgeting properly.

But I digress.

Well, like anyone else, Jose is entitled to his opinions. But all of these statements smack of arrogance and lack of a critical eye. And sure, you're going to be upset when people crap on your creative baby... but 7s really aren't a bad score. I'm reminded of Cliffy B's "Hate out of 10" remarks. I'm sure he'll come back to it being away for a few months and see that some things could have been done better. I find evidence for that in some parts of MoF.

As for the music, again, it's his game and he's entitled to his opinion but... well, it's kind of sad and kind of telling that he feels that way. I personally thought some of the music was a better fit for a Castlevania this time around. But there's still not enough of it and Araujo needs learn to stop worrying and love the melody.

Granted, I really enjoyed MoF for what it was. But if you want to improve, you've got to be willing to look at your mistakes.

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« Reply #38 on: April 19, 2013, 08:12:54 PM »
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Araujo needs learn to stop worrying and love the melody.
From what I've heard from his previous works, he just love to do always this. Listen to some movies' soundtracks by him and you'll see the same basic structure and composition characteristics. Anyway, it's one more game and then we'll have to see (struggle with again?) another composer.
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« Reply #39 on: April 19, 2013, 08:14:46 PM »
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Though I did like, overall, the melodies of the songs in both Sonic 4 games, even though the synthing was terribad.
I liked the music from both Sonic 4 games, especially Sylvania Acts from Episode II.

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« Reply #40 on: April 19, 2013, 09:35:47 PM »
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« Reply #41 on: April 20, 2013, 01:04:11 AM »
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« Reply #42 on: April 20, 2013, 04:14:58 AM »
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Sonic series has good music, overall. Pretty consistent through all the eras.

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« Reply #43 on: April 20, 2013, 05:11:41 AM »
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Sonic series has good music, overall. Pretty consistent through all the eras.
I really dislike the buttrock stuff they've been incorporating into the series since Adventure. Some songs are good(non-rock ones, of course), but others I just find blah. Anything pre-Crush 40's involvement was fine. 

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« Reply #44 on: April 20, 2013, 07:36:39 AM »
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I liked the 4 Genesis games' soundtracks, a part of Generations soundtrack and both Episodes of Sonic 4. So, 7 soundtracks of Sonic that I really liked (though one of them (Generations) consists only of remixes).

There's been some Sonic games with music I don't care about because it inspires me nothing.

And there's been some others that I didn't really like (some 3D games especially).

But it's all about personal tastes.
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