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Re: LOS question
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2013, 12:18:01 AM »
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The pieces of the God mask were given when you defeated a Lord of Shadow. (also when you defeated the Dracolitch i think)
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2013, 12:27:40 AM »
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Ahh, the Dracolich. Just in case I thought MercurySteam had frontloaded the tedious boss fights at the start. All I'm really remembering is how much I disliked the game now.
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2013, 01:30:49 AM »
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Dracolich, the reason you praise the existence of the dark crystal...

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Re: LOS question
« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2013, 02:15:17 AM »
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Hey, beaumont, you haven't played the game. Stop lying.

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Re: LOS question
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2013, 03:36:12 AM »
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I played it about a year ago. In fact I think that was probably what spurred me to sign up for this forum.
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2013, 03:38:49 AM »
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I played it about a year ago. In fact I think that was probably what spurred me to sign up for this forum.
Sorry but the whole "I saw the artwork never saw them in game, oh so they were there I skipped the (unskippable) Patrick Stewart narrations, oh they weren't in the narrations? aah I was totally going for a soda in the 45 cutscenes of the game" is unbelievable by any means.
And if it's right, you need serious memory check.

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Re: LOS question
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2013, 03:42:30 AM »
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Again, I played it a damned year ago. I don't remember exactly the circumstances under which I missed these apparently critical plot details. Why would I have this question if I had not played the game and it was subsequently bugging the hell out of me?

Seriously? I have questions about the plot and I get "Oh, well obviously you haven't played the game". If that's how you're gonna be, you're not helping in this thread. Get lost.
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2013, 04:27:46 AM »
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Yeah, I think I'm with Beaumont here. No reason to be so confrontational, Ahasverus. Memories can get jumbled up in a year, if it's been that long it's unsurprising he doesn't recall a lot of stuff, especially if he wasn't paying close attention. I myself zone out of cutscenes a lot if they're unskippable. If you can answer his questions, then answer them cordially and peacefully. Act cool and he, I, and everyone else here will be happy to be cool to you in return. However, if you're just going to accuse him of "lying" or whatever, I'll politely ask you to leave the thread. No reason for any of that off-topic stuff.
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2013, 11:34:12 AM »
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I've played the game a bunch, but I won't lie, there are still things that don't quite make sense to me about the story. I wondered about why Gabe killed Claudia, but I assumed it was just because he needed the Gauntlet and the only way to get it would be to get the Dark Knight riled up. And of course the only way to do THAT would be to kill Claudia.

But the Devil Mask is one aspect of the game I felt like they could have explained better. Or at all.

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Re: LOS question
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2013, 12:13:00 PM »
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They do though. Or rather, it explains that Zobek has been manipulating Gabriel, causing him tragediesto push him on. The mask was simply a device to do that
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2013, 06:19:23 PM »
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Beaumont, did you play the game blind, or muted, (or blind AND muted) or something?
Or, did you play someone else's completed game file and just his "SKIP" on every cutscene?

Because the whole God Mask thing is, like, the main driving force of the game.  Though there's no mentioning of the Devil Mask in-game, it is alluded to quite a few times.
I do agree that the Devil Mask bit could've been explained a little better.

The Devil Mask is right there during the end credits.  You see the Zobek has it on during the cutscene after the Dracolich battle.
He mentioned that he 'traveled to hell itself' and that there he 'found knowledge'.  The devil mask is how he uses such knowledge.

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Re: LOS question
« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2013, 08:57:16 PM »
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I thought it was absolutly clear and explained in the cut scene above... To me it was obvious after watching this the first time that Zobek found this devil`s mask when he traveled to hell looking for power and it was used/gave by Satan to manipulate him as it was used by him to manipulate Gabriel the whole game...

But after reading this thread is hard to tell if he really missed the whole plot thing of the game or if he`s just trolling arround...
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2013, 09:00:19 PM »
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Jorge, isn't that introductory line in violation of the rules that you yourself posted against insulting/belittling other forum members? That aside, here's the Chapter 12 trophy to put to rest the idea that I didn't play the game.

See, I didn't know that was an actual mask. I thought that was just Zobek's face or something. My lack of understanding probably wasn't helped by the overly florid/theatrical language and the interminable length of the cutscenes (I have a short attention span sometimes, sorry). Still, none of this answers to me why Gabriel needed that Gauntlet and by extension why Gabriel murdered the blonde girl. How did this help Zobek? How did Gabriel's wife know about Zobek's plan? I understand Gabriel's motivations (wanting to resurrect his wife) and no one else's.

I apologize for forgetting what the game's McGuffin was, FFS. I haven't played the game since I finished it last year. I think some lapses in memory can be forgiven.
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Re: LOS question
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2013, 09:47:42 PM »
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I understand our friend Beaumont´s situation. The whole story of LoS is in times complex and plot-twist in the end (thanks to Kojima, I believe). The stuff with the masks was Cox creation. I remember that in the begining, he said that masks was important part of the Castlevania lore... well, aside from the Carmilla mask in Simon´s Quest and Dracula´s mask in SCVIV, I don´t know of other games wher the masks were an "important part" of Castlevania (Maybe the Dracula´s third form in CVA Rebirth...).

I play and finish the game a few months ago, and I find the Zobek dialogues a little tired... in fact, at the final chapters i prefer to skip it when the combat cross/loading was full, and the same to the messages of the fallen soldiers (I don´t remember his names). In resume, I simply don´t like the LoS history, but, as always, it is my opinion...

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Re: LOS question
« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2013, 11:02:41 PM »
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The primary thing I remember about Zobek's narration was about how DARK and CONFLICTED and SLEEPLESS gabriel was supposed to be even though he acted and looked the exact same way from the very beginning to the very end.

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