Topic: If Castlevania Legacy of Darkness/Castlevania 64 was released today

[Johnny]

If it was released today in HD with better graphics, voices, and even some extra areas could this game be as good if not exceed the PS2 Castlevania games and/or the Lords of Shadow series. How do these 3D titles compare for the better and for the worst as compared to some of the other 3D titles? Some peoples opinions actually have been that Legacy of Darkness actually tops Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness. Seeing as how its non canonical to the series where would it take the series if it was released today?

[Lelygax]

They would need to make a better camera system for today standards, apart of that it would be very well received.

[X]

If CV64/LoD were re released with upgrade graphics, sounds, voice actinggameplay, and most importantly the camera,  then I have no-doubt that it would top LoI and CoD. Oh hell I'll say it anyways; It'll be light years beyond LoS too.

[Pfil]

What kind of question is that? 
The way I see it, LoD and CoD are Castlevania games, and LoS is something else.
That said, LoD is already better than all 3, as it is today.
If it were released today with those conditions, provided they do everything allright, we don't have only an excellent CV game. We'd maybe have the best 3D game ever made, and one of those rare 10/10 games that are almost non extant.

[DoctaMario]

The 64 games are near the top of my list of favorite CV games. But the atmosphere and level design of those games (especially the levels in CV64 which are far better than LoD's) is top notch and if they were to fix the camera and update the graphics, then it would make already fantastic games even better.

[uzo]

The only thing that could save the N64 titles would be a complete remake, from the ground up.

When comes right down to it; the N64 games failed to have good gameplay, unable to transition itself properly into a 3D space.

[X]

The only thing that could save the N64 titles would be a complete remake, from the ground up.

When comes right down to it; the N64 games failed to have good gameplay, unable to transition itself properly into a 3D space.

I do agree with this. The engine itself would need to be a built from the ground-up as it is very dated. I've gotten used to CV 64/LoD's physics over my many play-throughs, but but a remake would need a totally new engine for today's standards. But only so long as they keep it simple and not go the LoS route ie sponge enemies and ridiculous amounts of attack combos that waste my f**k'n time for no good reason. I'd be okay with it otherwise.

[darkwzrd4]

I do agree with this. The engine itself would need to be a built from the ground-up as it is very dated. I've gotten used to CV 64/LoD's physics over my many play-throughs, but but a remake would need a totally new engine for today's standards. But only so long as they keep it simple and not go the LoS route ie sponge enemies and ridiculous amounts of attack combos that waste my f**k'n time for no good reason. I'd be okay with it otherwise.

Exactly. No QTEs would also be nice. They suck!

[Johnny]

The only thing that could save the N64 titles would be a complete remake, from the ground up.

When comes right down to it; the N64 games failed to have good gameplay, unable to transition itself properly into a 3D space.

Well that's what I mean. If the game were made today it likely wouldn't have the same engine that it had on the N64 but rather a more advanced engine. I'm talking storyline, plot, environments, etc etc. Would the game be marketable as a new game with extra features had we never known about or played Castlevania 64 or Castlevania LOD before.

Though you do propose an interesting idea with what you're saying. A reimagining of Castlevania LOD/64 is a great concept. If someone put some work into something like that and Mighty No 9'd the concept (making a Castlevania LOD-like game and calling it something else with new characters) I would certainly back it on Kickstarter.

[Lelygax]

Well that's what I mean. If the game were made today it likely wouldn't have the same engine that it had on the N64 but rather a more advanced engine. I'm talking storyline, plot, environments, etc etc. Would the game be marketable as a new game with extra features had we never known about or played Castlevania 64 or Castlevania LOD before.

Though you do propose an interesting idea with what you're saying. A reimagining of Castlevania LOD/64 is a great concept. If someone put some work into something like that and Mighty No 9'd the concept (making a Castlevania LOD-like game and calling it something else with new characters) I would certainly back it on Kickstarter.

Call it Legacy of Shadows instead of Legacy of Darkness, then we can have a 3D game called LoS that erases what LoS really stands for from our minds    j/k

[Inccubus]

If it was released today in HD with better graphics, voices, and even some extra areas could this game be as good if not exceed the PS2 Castlevania games and/or the Lords of Shadow series. How do these 3D titles compare for the better and for the worst as compared to some of the other 3D titles? Some peoples opinions actually have been that Legacy of Darkness actually tops Lament of Innocence and Curse of Darkness. Seeing as how its non canonical to the series where would it take the series if it was released today?

Magic 8 Ball says; "It is certainly so".

[chainsawmidget]

How do these 3D titles compare for the better and for the worst as compared to some of the other 3D titles?

Well, they have worse graphics and play control, but they have better characters, story, level design, and atmosphere.

[Johnny]

Call it Legacy of Shadows instead of Legacy of Darkness, then we can have a 3D game called LoS that erases what LoS really stands for from our minds    j/k

A tribute to the Castlevania 64/LoD title may be cool and calling the game 64 Hours of Darkness. Basically still having a plot similar to Castlevania 64/LoD basically still having to find the hidden evil and defeat it in 64 Hours. If you don't beat the game within 64 Hours of playing time, you will have a different final boss and the hidden evil will still exist a.k.a you will never get to fight the true final boss.

Anyways I suppose anything is possible. Yuji Shibata, Takeo Yakushiji and Hiroshi Shibata seemed to be most involved in making Castlevania: Legacy of Darkness. Yuji Shibata also made Kirby's Epic Yarn apparently. So I suppose he must do work with different companies and he is not just exclusive to Konami.

[Beaumont_Belmont]

Improve the camera, add a save-anywhere-not-in-combat feature (or reconfigure the infamous Nitro puzzle) and give it a few shiny graphical touches, and I bet it would sell a fair few units.

[X]

Exactly. No QTEs would also be nice. They suck!

Thanks for adding that, I knew I'd forgotten to mention something. Yeah QTE's are bad for CV. They can go sit and spin.