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Re: I think I know why the powers of good weaken every 100 years
« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2015, 12:53:33 PM »
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I recall there being Simon wraith(s) in HoD too. Since there is no (official) bestiary, how did they come about being as Simon was long gone at that time (supposedly).
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Re: I think I know why the powers of good weaken every 100 years
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2015, 01:42:10 PM »
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Let's not forget that Haunted Castle is also way more different as well yet it was supposed to be a retell of CV1 since they share the same japanese title, logo and artwork as well.

Simon's goal all along in CV2 was to destroy/burn the remains of Dracula to undo his curse and he never meant to resurrect Dracula, just my two cents.

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Re: I think I know why the powers of good weaken every 100 years
« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2015, 03:38:40 PM »
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I recall there being Simon wraith(s) in HoD too. Since there is no (official) bestiary, how did they come about being as Simon was long gone at that time (supposedly).

They're actually more like joke enemies. In the original version they are called Shimon, as a pun on Simon. They also appear in CVIII and Getsa Fuuma Den. In Harmony of Despair they are called "Hellmont", which is much closer to the original intention than "Simon's Wraith", which make them sound more serious than they actually are.   

Let's not forget that Haunted Castle is also way more different as well yet it was supposed to be a retell of CV1 since they share the same japanese title, logo and artwork as well.

That's not true actually. I'll quote an interview with one of the game's programmers:

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You worked on Haunted Castle. Why wasn't it called Castlevania? In Japan it was still known as Akumajo Dracula.

The original Famicom and arcade version differ in mechanics and gameplay. In the arcades, complicated mechanics pose a problem, so it became a very different game. It is an Akumajo Dracula game, but very specifally made for the arcades and not a port. I think that's why the Castlevania title was not used in favour of an original title. The marketing plan for the Japanese market was probably built on the name recognition value of Akumajou Dracula.
 

Seems like the game was only was known as Akumajou Dracula for marketing reasons. Also, most likely they just reused the art and logo to make clear it was related to the FDS version.

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Re: I think I know why the powers of good weaken every 100 years
« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2015, 03:39:20 PM »
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Simon's goal all along in CV2 was to destroy/burn the remains of Dracula to undo his curse and he never meant to resurrect Dracula, just my two cents.

And you'd be correct. Simon's goal was to undo the curse placed upon him but didn't know where to start. That's when he had his visitation in the cemetery. No-doubt God's agent telling him about the locations of all the remains and that destroying them will undo the curse. Simon has absolutely no intentions of reviving the Count as it is his job and the job of his family to do otherwise; Destroy Dracula for the preservation of humanity. And while Simon was not spared the effects of Dracula's curse, he and his fellow brethren are immune from the evil influence of Dracula himself. It was different with Richter as he was influenced by Shaft who is not Dracula, nor does Shaft use any of Dracula's powers.
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Re: I think I know why the powers of good weaken every 100 years
« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2015, 04:06:20 PM »
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This conversation has made me wonder about that... the Belmonts are supposed to be immune to Dracula's power/influence/whatever, but Richter fell to Shaft's power/influence.  I guess they're different so it should make sense, but it still seems a little silly.  If they resist Dracula, you might think anyone lesser is no problem.

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Re: I think I know why the powers of good weaken every 100 years
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2015, 09:12:19 PM »
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This conversation has made me wonder about that... the Belmonts are supposed to be immune to Dracula's power/influence/whatever, but Richter fell to Shaft's power/influence.  I guess they're different so it should make sense, but it still seems a little silly.  If they resist Dracula, you might think anyone lesser is no problem.

That POR timeline written in English states that "Shaft's curse seeps into his [Richter's] heart, left defenseless by his Battle with Dracula." It's fair to say this would've been ample time to strike. I've always assumed when the Belmonts fight Dracula, in a real life sense they would be sustaining injuries, mentally and physically exhausted etc. so this isn't really far fetched imo.
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Re: I think I know why the powers of good weaken every 100 years
« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2015, 09:24:59 PM »
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And you'd be correct. Simon's goal was to undo the curse placed upon him but didn't know where to start. That's when he had his visitation in the cemetery. No-doubt God's agent telling him about the locations of all the remains and that destroying them will undo the curse.

Strange isn't it though that God's agent told him exactly what to do, where all the remains were but left out the location of the last remain... Dat Fang ????
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Re: I think I know why the powers of good weaken every 100 years
« Reply #37 on: August 23, 2015, 02:27:18 AM »
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Those daggone villagers!  A curse on those that sometimes lie to you! ;-P

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