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Re: Make a remake of Legends?
« Reply #30 on: September 08, 2015, 11:16:13 PM »
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I'll gladly lend my artistic hand to anyone making a Legends remake.

Any help is awesome, man! I think we should all collaborate together, even if online. It can be difficult but it happens a lot. My brother is pretty good at making music, I could ask him to make remixes of the soundtrack.

I call dibs on narrative director(want to be a film major)! ;D
If we all settle on one of the plots we came up with then I guess one of us can get to writing the dialogue and opening scene.

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Re: Make a remake of Legends?
« Reply #31 on: September 08, 2015, 11:22:38 PM »
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Super Castlevania Legends

Sounds sexy as hell.

There should be a whole Super timeline. Ya know, the timeline that should of happened...
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Re: Make a remake of Legends?
« Reply #32 on: September 08, 2015, 11:24:53 PM »
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Super Castlevania Legends

Sounds sexy as hell.

There should be a whole Super timeline. Ya know, the timeline that should of happened...

Lol I agree!  ;D

There IS that Super Castlevania 3 floating around on the web... Hmmmmm

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Re: Make a remake of Legends?
« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2015, 11:48:20 PM »
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I was hoping for a Belmont's Revenge and Legends ReBirth following The Adventure, but that never happened.

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Re: Make a remake of Legends?
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2015, 05:08:08 PM »
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I was hoping for a Belmont's Revenge and Legends ReBirth following The Adventure, but that never happened.


Unfortunately. I'd argue BR doesn't really need a remake, but like Adventure, Legends has a LOT of issues that could be ironed out.

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Re: Make a remake of Legends?
« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2015, 10:16:46 PM »
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Finished a draft of the story. Needs some rewriting, and once I'm satisfied with it, I'll post it and see what you guys think.

A few peices of information:
-No Alucard
-Takes place in 1294
-Coller, the unused character from CV64, is a main character, and we learn why he would've betrayed Dracula.
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Re: Make a remake of Legends?
« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2015, 04:25:38 AM »
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Finished a draft of the story. Needs some rewriting, and once I'm satisfied with it, I'll post it and see what you guys think.

A few peices of information:
-No Alucard
-Takes place in 1294
-Coller, the unused character from CV64, is a main character, and we learn why he would've betrayed Dracula.

No Alulove for Alufans? :(((
Still better than the Alucard in Captain N who rides a rocket skateboard.
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Re: Make a remake of Legends?
« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2015, 01:52:47 PM »
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No Alulove for Alufans? :(((
Still better than the Alucard in Captain N who rides a rocket skateboard.

XD Oh man how they shat on characters in Captain N

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Re: Make a remake of Legends?
« Reply #38 on: November 09, 2015, 01:00:01 PM »
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XD Oh man how they shat on characters in Captain N

You know as bad a rendition Simon was in Captain N, by 90's standards as a kid he was actually good comic relief. By the time season 3 came around it seemed all characters were butchered.
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Re: Make a remake of Legends?
« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2015, 12:05:41 AM »
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Imagine a Captain N redone with 100% accuracy to the characters, then Launch the New Captain N in Smash Bros.

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Re: Make a remake of Legends?
« Reply #40 on: November 10, 2015, 12:29:54 AM »
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Imagine a Captain N redone with 100% accuracy to the characters, then Launch the New Captain N in Smash Bros.

Interesting article/ memoir behind the origins of Captain N http://www.nintendoplayer.com/feature/the-man-behind-captain-nintendo/
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Re: Make a remake of Legends?
« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2015, 01:01:58 AM »
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Interesting article/ memoir behind the origins of Captain N http://www.nintendoplayer.com/feature/the-man-behind-captain-nintendo/

Seems really interesting, man. I'll have to continue reading it when I have some more time to do so. I'm planning on finding a used Kindle DX, so maybe I'll have a more pleasant reading experience on that hopefully... Damn, why don't they still make HUGE ass screened ereaders anymore :(

Seems really fucking awesome, though. It's always nice to hear from people behind any product and get an insight into how they attempted to execute their vision of their work.

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Re: Make a remake of Legends?
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2015, 02:05:17 AM »
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I'll post my so-far final draft of the story. I know it's pretty cheesey and fan-ficky, but hey, it's a Castlevania plot... for a Legends remake  ;D
So far I've had issues with the castle, and it's a plothole so far. Nothing final, there are plot holes, but if you guys are interested, I know some of you are WAY better storytellers than I am, and I think a Legends fangame would be quite an awesome project.


Castlevania Legends: Dark Night Prelude
The year is 1294, two hundred years after Leon Belmont's struggle against his former friend and fellow knight, Mathias. Leon had promised that his bloodline would devote themselves to hunting down the darkness and ultimately send Mathias to his grave, but Mathias had gone into hiding for years.

Many heirs to the Belmont name had searched for Mathias all over Europe, with no luck. After one hundred years, Victor Belmont (yes, a reference to Resurrection if you were wondering) developed a strategy; to spread the influence of the Belmont family throughout many parts of the world. Victor had spent his time growing a trade business, which eventually became a success, leading the Belmonts into aristocratic status.

Mathias grew fearful, as the Belmonts were growing getting closer and closer. He decided to settle down in Transylvania, and he had a plan to keep his enemies out.

The townspeople he knew were especially afraid of dark magic and supernatural pressence. Mathias had claimed the Belmonts were a family of superhuman ability (hence why the Transylvanian people fear the Belmonts before CVIII). Mathias  settles down, offers protection from them, and becomes somewhat of a deity to them. Mathias settles down in a castle in Romania, near the outskirts of Transylvania.

This sets back the Belmonts, as Transylvania has an army, as well as Mathias to contend with. Years pass, and while the Belmonts live peacefully in the mountains outside of Romania, the Belmonts raised Sonia, the next in line to seek out Mathias.

One day, after training with her grandfather, Sonia decides to practice by herself with the whip, hitting posts set outside. A man comes up the hill, and Sonia demands to know who it is. The man claims his name is Coller, a lone traveler and trader. He asks to see the head of the trade, and Sonia takes him to her father.

Later, that night, Coller stays the night in the guest room. Him and Sonia bid each other farewell, as he'll be traveling with her father in the morning on a trade expedition. Then, after falling asleep, Sonia is awaken by the screams of her family members and a sharp heat. She hears and smells burning. She rushes outside her room and sees the mansion burning around her, her family members on the foyer dead, along with a woman holding a large knife.

She rushes up to Sonia, but Sonia jumps out the nearest window and runs for the shed. After going into a secret tomb, she picks up the Vampire Killer and does battle with the woman, who claims to be named Carmilla. Sonia kills her, and with her dying breath, she puts on a mask.

Coller rushes outside, surviving the flames. Sonia is in shock of seeing her family dead, and the burning down of her home. Coller snaps her out, and then Sonia tells Coller of the struggle between her family and Mathias, and how she knows it must've been his doing. Coller claims he will accompany Sonia after she vows vengeance. Coller and Sonia use Coller's carriage, and travel for a few months. I that time, Coller and Sonia's relationship begins to grow.

Once they get to Transylvania, the town is protected by a gate. Coller and Sonia seperate, Coller getting in through the main entrance, with Sonia having to break in due to her Belmont relation. Sonia gets in through the east guard tower. She kills guards and fights a large bat at the top of the tower. She rushes through the town as guards chase, and meets Coller in front of the castle. They enter. After fighting through the castle together, Coller is wounded. He tells Sonia to go ahead and leave him.

Sonia gets to the top floor, and Mathias has Coller tied to a post in the room. Mathias tells Sonia that Coller was sent with Carmilla to confirm her target. Coller claims he felt guilty for what he had done, so he did what he could to help Sonia. Dracula says that if Coller wants to live, he has to challenge Sonia in combat. Coller refuses and Mathias stabs Coller in the stomach, killing him.

Sonia runs over to accompany Coller, and thanks him for trying to make up for what he had done. She says she loves him, and with his dying breath, Coller claims that a servant of Mathias will return just as Mathias himself can return in reincarnation. If Mathias rises again, so will he. Coller dies, and the floor breaks under Sonia's feet.

After fighting her way to the underground sanctuary, Sonia fights and defeats Mathias. The castle crumbles, and Sonia escapes Transylvania. She later gives birth to the next heir to the Belmont legacy.
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I know its cheesey and flawed. I do have dialogue, but I use Film Writer to develop in screenplay form and it doesn't allow you to just copy and paste, so I just typed up a quick barebones version.

I originally thought of Mathias promising eternal life to the townspeople to achive his status, but then wouldn't they be afraid of him too? I think it could still work, and I like that approach, but I also liked this idea, because these events make the townspeople even more paranoid, which can in hand lead to Lisa'a execution, so his plan kind of ends up biting Mathias/Drac in the ass.

I also contemplated whether or not having the Belmonts live in Transylvania, and Mathias tells them that the Belmonts are supernatural so they're the ones who burn down the manor and kill the family. I LOVE CVIII's witchhunting sorta backstory, and I loved the idea of using it like that, but I thought if the Belmonts were so close to Mathias, then why not kill him earlier. I guess I could change to Mathias moving to Transylvania and using the townspeople to take the Belmonts out for him.

I wrote Coller like that to give his unused story arch in CV64 it's purpose, like why Coller would fight against Drac. He still loves Sonia, and will attempt to hurt Drac any way he can to right the wrong he did back in this story. I know we never got Coller's backstory besides speculation of him being an experiment by Drac, similar to the lizardman in Castle Center, but I wanted to incorporate some unuesed material here, and I'm a huge fan of Coller's design and the mystery behind what he might've been.

If you guys took the time to read, let me know what you think. I know it still needs some work, and it wasn't presented nearly as well as other fanfics on here, but hey, I'm not a grwat story teller without my voice ;D

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Re: Make a remake of Legends?
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2015, 09:55:11 AM »
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If you want to implement Coller into your version of Legends, he'd have to ditch the shotgun and chainsaw arm to be more believable. Are you okay with that?

Anyway, though the story has pretty neat ideas, particularly Mathias turning the people against the Belmonts, it doesn't seem to be structured with regards to a game's flow that well. Sure, it'd work on its own or as a film/animation's story, but not that well for a game's narrative structure IMO, especially if said game is a classicvania. If you want to work it in as it is, it'd need too many cutscenes which might end up breaking up the game's flow, I think.
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Re: Make a remake of Legends?
« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2015, 12:56:44 PM »
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If you want to implement Coller into your version of Legends, he'd have to ditch the shotgun and chainsaw arm to be more believable. Are you okay with that?

Anyway, though the story has pretty neat ideas, particularly Mathias turning the people against the Belmonts, it doesn't seem to be structured with regards to a game's flow that well. Sure, it'd work on its own or as a film/animation's story, but not that well for a game's narrative structure IMO, especially if said game is a classicvania. If you want to work it in as it is, it'd need too many cutscenes which might end up breaking up the game's flow, I think.

Oh yeah definitely would ditch Collers shotgun and chainsaw. I forgot to mention that lol. I pictured him looking like his conept art, the indiana jones like hat but with normal hands, and he gets that once the 64 games would've commenced.

And yeah, that was something I noticed while starting it a few months ago, I typed it out like a film screenplay with a three act structure. I'm wanna be a film major so I'm kind of cursed with that lol, but yeah, I knew there'd have to be quite a few cutscenes, especially for the bits of College and Sonia travelling so that their relationship didn't feel rushed and them having a baby could be more believable, not just "Hey, let's bone" cus that stuff bugs me when writers think it's good chemistry to do it that rushed.

But yeah, the only bit where the townspeople against the Belmonts comes into play would be the stage where Sonia breaks in and fights the guards. I thought I'd make that minimal cus I wasn't sure how a CV game where fighting ppl instead of monsters would be handeled for gameplay.

But thanks a lot, man! Still look forward to developing this a bit further. I also made a Sonia sprite in my free time, a recolor of her ending animation. Walking looks jerky so I'd have to fix that. Not too skilled with Game Maker lol

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