Topic: We should have gotten another LoS game

[Belmontoya]

Castlevania Lords of Shadow should have been Castlevania Order of the Dragon.

A reboot starting with a story about Dracula should be a story about Dracula.

Not some guy named Gabriel who decides to call himself Dracula.

[zangetsu468]

Castlevania Lords of Shadow should have been Castlevania Order of the Dragon.

A reboot starting with a story about Dracula should be a story about Dracula.

Not some guy named Gabriel who decides to call himself Dracula.

And calls his son Alucard because .... Reasons 

[X]

Castlevania Lords of Shadow should have been Castlevania Order of the Dragon.

A reboot starting with a story about Dracula should be a story about Dracula.

Not some guy named Gabriel who decides to call himself Dracula.

This would have been interesting. So long as it was Vlad and not some unknown pretender.

[piscesdreams]

IIRC LoS is the best selling CV is the best selling CV game ever made (and will probably remain like that) so i find that unlikely

I speak hypothetically.  Sadly, it is one of the best selling in the series and that really chaps my ass.

[Claimh Solais]

And calls his son Alucard because .... Reasons

He didn't know his son's name. And decided to call him "Alucard" due to it being the reverse of the name he was given by the people (Dracula). He gave him such a name because Trevor stood for the "reverse" of everything Gabriel stood for.

Because that's not convoluted at all and we could totally get all that from the short cutscenes that Gabriel and Trevor interact in.

[TheTextGuy]

I speak hypothetically.  Sadly, it is one of the best selling in the series and that really chaps my ass.

Speaking of sales, how did MoF and LoS2 fare in terms of sales?

[Lumi Kløvstad]

Speaking of sales, how did MoF and LoS2 fare in terms of sales?

They did okay. As I recall, MoF did better on PS3/360 than it did on DS.

LOS2 had some strong opening numbers after release, but in predictable fashion, as word about how awful the plot was started to spread, those numbers dropped off RAPIDLY.

[zangetsu468]

He didn't know his son's name. And decided to call him "Alucard" due to it being the reverse of the name he was given by the people (Dracula). He gave him such a name because Trevor stood for the "reverse" of everything Gabriel stood for.

Because that's not convoluted at all and we could totally get all that from the short cutscenes that Gabriel and Trevor interact in.

Therefore Simon = Alucard
Everyone who stands against Gabula = Alucard
Dumbest explanation ever

[SecretWeapon]

To be fair, Trevor was the first i think

[Neobelmont]

As much as I love LoS. MoF and LoS2 were not exactly up to par and killed any trust I had in Mercurysteam which make me think why work on a franchise that you have no connection to? The only reason why I think LoS did as good as it did was because of sheer dumb luck and a willingness to be different in away that still sticks to cv while MoF failed because it tried to please everyone and had less than thrilling gameplay, and LoS2 still baffles me because there is just alot of influence it could have taken from other modern day frachises like supernatural, shin megami tensei, hellboy, blade, heck I would even go with this new show called preacher (that's really good by the way). Also how can devil may cry do it so much better than cv in a modern day setting? Heck, Tales of Xillia 2 does a modern like setting better than LoS2.

[zangetsu468]

To be fair, Trevor was the first i think

I know what you're saying, but it's still a poor explanation and was not implicit in the story.
We're only aware of the name "Alucard" because of previous Castlevania games which have nothing to do with LOS in terms of context/ universe or lore.

[Lumi Kløvstad]

Therefore Simon = Alucard
Everyone who stands against Gabula = Alucard
Dumbest explanation ever

I'd like to point out that in the Iga canon, Alucard chose his name to symbolize his eternal opposition to Dracula's monstrous goals himself. It's the exact same logic MoF uses, just in Igavania, Alucard is the one calling that logic instead of Dracula himself in Mirror of Fate.

[zangetsu468]

I'd like to point out that in the Iga canon, Alucard chose his name to symbolize his eternal opposition to Dracula's monstrous goals himself. It's the exact same logic MoF uses, just in Igavania, Alucard is the one calling that logic instead of Dracula himself in Mirror of Fate.

Mate I understand that and if LOS was released prior to the original games it would be a different story.
But we only know who or what Alucard is based upon previous Castlevania games, that's my point. It's lazy on MS' behalf.

[Lumi Kløvstad]

Mate I understand that and if LOS was released prior to the original games it would be a different story.
But we only know who or what Alucard is based upon previous Castlevania games, that's my point. It's lazy on MS' behalf.

Rebuttal: I thought MoF was very clear that Dracula had figured it out, but only too late. Otherwise he wouldn't have tried to save Trevor.

Furthermore, the only people playing Mirror of Fate have pretty much been confirmed to be Igavania fans with scant exception, as that was who it was aimed at since production had started. That's why it doesn't fill in any major gaps (and the ones it does are pretty well covered in LOS2 for redundancy's sake). It's MS's take on a Metroidvania for Metroidvania fans.

So the idea that anyone playing wouldn't know who Alucard was from the moment he first was identified seems kind of silly. If you're playing this game at all, you're the sort of person who already knows the main canon versions of these characters.

[Shiroi Koumori]

So the idea that anyone playing wouldn't know who Alucard was from the moment he first was identified seems kind of silly. If you're playing this game at all, you're the sort of person who already knows the main canon versions of these characters.

That was the point of them including Alucard in the first place. Selling to IGA fans.
They shouldn't have, in my opinion. It just makes me hate them more.