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Chronicles Simon
« on: November 28, 2011, 11:16:41 PM »
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It seems a lot of people have a love/hate relationship when it comes to Simon's Chronicles look. Dracula's redesign was universally loved, and I remember way back in 2001 there was a lot of love for Simon's design despite the stripper undertones. Since then, opinions have gotten more stronger and divisive, and many prefer his original X68000 appearance. What do you all think of it?

To be honest, it's actually my favorite design of him. I grew up with CV2 Simon, yet for some reason I think of his Chronicles look as the definitive one in my mind. When I think of Simon Belmont, I think of Chronicles' radical US cover. I can understand the hate, but it's the one I prefer the most.
Then again, I also like the arranged version of Vampire Killer, so maybe I just like things that are actually terrible.

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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 06:11:32 AM »
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I kinda like this design, the flowing red hair and "eyeliner makeup" is what turns most people off about it. If I recall correctly IGA said the reason for this was because the game had a "red" color theme so he gave Kojima much freedom with the design. The outfit itself is fine, nothing really weighing him down except for his sword. I might have preferred dark brown or black hair, though. Also, in the artwork, the whip is way too long..

Perhaps Kojima should've gave him a beard? I wonder how Simon would look like with a scruffy beard.. Besides Julius and possibly BR Christopher, he's the only other character I can picture with one. And not like that douchy pretend beard Gabriel has.

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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 06:22:19 AM »
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Considering Simon's previous designs at the time, it was in my opinion the best middle ground they could have come up with. It is still somewhat barbarian like, but with a sort of elegant Kojima twist. I still like it to this day.

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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2011, 08:05:41 AM »
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It's my favourite Simon design. I couldn't care less about his hair color, I just think he looks rather awesome. I did hate his Judgment look though. That was simply not Simon.

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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 08:44:41 AM »
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Nothing wrong with the red hair. It actually gives him kind of a cool, rebellious aura. It's the boots, the eyeliner look and the almost-too-perfect Kojima face that I don't like.


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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2011, 09:09:46 AM »
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The worst look Simon had in years. Alongside his Judgement appearance.
I grew up with classic Simon desigh and this new incarnation was totally outlandish and bizzare.

I could have been OK with, if not crazy combination of red hair and black leather clothes. It made him look like a fashion victim, even more so than Juste, who save for him being Alucard rip-off still ended up more fashionable and decent design. At this point I get used to Kojima's "typical face" for all men, so it was not a big deal.

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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2011, 09:48:16 AM »
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I grew up with the classic Simon design too but I still prefer the redesign. Some people automatically suggest that you're a n00b just because you don't worship the 80's Conan look. Not that anyone did that here, but still.

Also, I think more guys should wear eyeliner.

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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2011, 10:31:20 AM »
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I like the Chronicles design, I just like the CV4 one better.

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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2011, 10:40:13 AM »
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Red hair made him more unique. Tell me what other Belmonts have red hair. And as the most popular Belmont, I think he deserves to stand out a bit more. I thought he looked plenty barbaian while still retaining some Kojima class.
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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2011, 11:32:23 AM »
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I'm not fond of a number of things in his design:

1. The overuse of leather in his neck (makes him look like an S&M enthusiast).  I can deal with the Roman-style studded leather skirt, but not the neck buckle things.  The other games that have him in leather have it up to his neck, but never as a leather-with-metal-buckles-turtleneck thing.
2. The furry black boa stuff he's wearing (it would've been better if it were an actual animal skin, like a gray wolf skin or something)
3. The 3-inch heels he's got in his pointy boots. Also, the pointy boots.
4. It's not that it's red hair... it's that it's bright red hair.  Slightly more brown but still red would've been fine, like his Judgment hair color (which is kinda a wine/burgundy color) or auburn.
5. He's wearing tights.  Leather tights.  Studded black leather tights.  That's just too far gone, for me.

Here is what I like about his design:
1. The gloves are well done.  I like seeing him with full gloves (even if they are open at the fingertips, which is kinda not cool) instead of just bracers.
2. It's nice that they kept the "off-center" design on his armor from the older iterations of his costume.
3. The use of red in the armor is really cool.  Kinda gives it a Simon's Quest air.
4. I dig the leather straps on the boots, even if I don't like the black fur, the heels, and the tips.
5. The chains and metal work are done well, as is the sheath for his sword/subweapons.
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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2011, 11:39:27 AM »
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I like the Chronicles design, I just like the CV4 one better.


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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2011, 12:02:22 PM »
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I just like the CV4 one better.

Ditto.

I wonder what he would look wearing the headgear of (Japanese) SCVIV, the hairs of Chronicles and CV and the armor of SQ. And maybe sporting a beard of suffering.


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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2011, 06:21:17 PM »
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3. The 3-inch heels he's got in his pointy boots. Also, the pointy boots.
All Ayami's Belmonts have heels and pointy boots. Hell, even Soma has Heels and pointy shoes.

Trevor is really the worse offender.

I think only Alucard's boots are somewhat sensible looking. (Maybe Juste's too)
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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2011, 06:51:47 PM »
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Hey, He's the only Ayami Kojima Belmont with a Trench or Tail Coat on.

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Re: Chronicles Simon
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2011, 07:01:36 PM »
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Julius wears a trench coat. Tail Coat maybe though. He's certainly a more classy Belmont, but then again, he got sucked into adventure on short notice, so he never really got to switch to "work clothes" I guess.

Or he's just that fashionable.
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