Topic: The first sign rises with the full moon.

[beingthehero]

To be fair, it was fairly useful in CotM. The other games...kinda useless, unless it was the end of the game and all your stats were high.

. SotN also had floating platforms of course, but it had subtle explanations as to why they are there. You can see a crumbled stairway in the background in one such section for example. Later games kind off placed these platforms haphazardly around the levels, so it feels kind off cheap. It's a shame, since arguably this feeling of immersion was SotN's strongest point.

Aria did the same thing, where all the platforms were "realistic" insofar that they weren't just floating in space. Oddly enough, Harmony was half and half in that some of the platforms made sense in terms of reality and others, like the Wailing Way, just...floated in space. But it doesn't break my immersion either way.

[shelverton.]

I was more talking about the standing kick, not the sliding one.

[zangetsu468]

As useful as it was with Nathan Graves and Juste Belmont?
Meaning, only to get into small crevaces and probably not so good for running into enemies.

What Shelverton is saying is he doesn't know why there's a standing kick.
It's probably just a closer attack like the 64 games had.

it also would surprise me if Iga's adding just enough gameplay elements to differentiate BS from CV. There's no guarantee Konami won't sue him given their recent track record.

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

I suppose it's possible that she may lose weaponry at some point and would have to rely on it?
That'd be pretty weird, though.

[zangetsu468]

I suppose it's possible that she may lose weaponry at some point and would have to rely on it?
That'd be pretty weird, though.

It could comprise a challenge or set of challenges where Miriam may lose specific attributes or weapons/armour.

[CastleDan]

Just wanted to point something out. I don't think you have to worry as much about floating platforms.




As you can see here the platforms are connected to the pillars, so they seem to be thinking a lot about the actual reality of the environment. ( thankfully)

Also, an addition -

 

- her turn around

and

her pose -

[Jorge D. Fuentes]

Yeah that chandelier is probably a floating platform.

[affinity]

I dunno how people would nitpick floating platforms when Castlevania wasn't about realistic "logical" platforms in enviornments.   the IGAvania floating platforms whenever they are there, still make sense for the style of that type of game design/world.  It's still immersive. it's not like they just place floating platforms anywhere.
IGAvania/Bloodstained worlds are different worlds, and it is possible for floating platforms to exist, even if they are not connected to the background or foreground structures.    magic is a big part of these games and its possible for castles to have floating platforms here and there. 

if people are going to nitpick floating platforms, then I guess they will start demanding fall damage as well for the sake of atmosphere.

[KaZudra]

I dunno how people would nitpick floating platforms when Castlevania wasn't about realistic "logical" platforms in enviornments.   the IGAvania floating platforms whenever they are there, still make sense for the style of that type of game design/world.  It's still immersive. it's not like they just place floating platforms anywhere.
IGAvania/Bloodstained worlds are different worlds, and it is possible for floating platforms to exist, even if they are not connected to the background or foreground structures.    magic is a big part of these games and its possible for castles to have floating platforms here and there. 

if people are going to nitpick floating platforms, then I guess they will start demanding fall damage as well for the sake of atmosphere.

Floating platforms in the Classic games were okay, the backgrounds were vague enough for them to blend in, but in the more modern games it sorta made less sense since the highly detailed backgrounds could easily accompany the platforms, most of the time they do.

[affinity]

well yeah, maybe the kickstarters will tell IGA to try to make the backgrounds connect to the floating platforms. 

[Zargon]

Its a test map people, chill out. Its nothing to get riled up about anyway, but it isn't really fair to start freaking out until we see Miriam walking on platforms connecting to nothing in gameplay vids with finished backgrounds or something. And as has been pointed out, the stuff in the chandelier pic look an awful lot like platforms, and they are connected to things.

[X]

I've never had an issue with platforms in games. It's part of the mechanics. I think a lot of people tend to forget that there is (as another dungeonite put it) magic involved. Any castle that is magical or cursed is going to use a series of platforms that seem to defy reality. And since this is a game we're talking about here, then reality can go willy-nilly for all we care and shouldn't bother anyone.

[Nagumo]

I'm just saying SotN did a good job incorporating platforms into its game world, and that later games paid less attention to this. Since they went out of their way to do this since the beginning, they might as well be consistent about it, right? 

[KaZudra]

I'm just saying SotN did a good job incorporating platforms into its game world, and that later games paid less attention to this. Since they went out of their way to do this since the beginning, they might as well be consistent about it, right?

Yeah, some games do some games don't, it's mostly about how many background layers are in the stage, Which most can be fixed for the more open areas given another layer can be placed, but still, it's more of aesthetic nit-picking rather than game breaking.

[Belmontoya]

If I had a problem with floating platforms I would have a problem with almost every video game I've ever loved.