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No metroidvania, for me, has ever topped the wonder and intrigue of either Super Metroid or SotN. Those games all feel like art pieces with organic environments, as opposed to designed gameplay loops that happen to feature good art.

Not that I think the genre is stale or anything, I just think it's one of those things that's incredibly difficult to get right. SM and SotN have many more detectable flaws than modern metroidvanias but their shadow looms impossibly tall over the genre. It's like boxers.
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https://youtu.be/mV2T3B9yixw?si=__RV2Da1j3Mdvh8m - Smash Bros
https://youtu.be/osfElsTiofo?si=D5ztgPN722Llsp-C - Brawlhalla
https://youtu.be/xveyurCavdo?si=DwBPw2puicsppc8 - Jail or Bail
https://youtu.be/i8nPR7aB62c?si=RzbdlU9fG23UjxW3 - Dead Cells
https://youtu.be/CkFP-XzRWrk?si=06BHVWyE1tUNQt4h - V Rising
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YEfRYKRr8s - Dead by Daylight

6 starting from Smash Bros that I can think of.  Did I miss any?

Edit: Oh, since Smash isn't a DLC, I guess that would make 5 CV DLCs in non-Castlevania games.  Also since Jail or Bail is a Konami game, that would give us 5 collaborations as well.

Looking through some of these old trailers - this is when original style Simon Belmont really made a come back.
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Fan Stuff / Re: CHRONICLES OF THE WOLF
« Last post by RichterB on May 15, 2024, 03:42:08 PM »
Sorry for the double post, but any updates or hints of when I can put some money down on Chronicles of the Wolf?  ;D
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YEfRYKRr8s

here we go again LOL

I'm losing count now. Is the 4th? 5th? Vania DLC in non Vania games?

With how busy I've been, I haven't had the chance to try any of this stuff.
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i'm enjoying the love from all of these.  the trailers are always fun to watch at the very least.
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General Castlevania Discussion / Re: NEW CASTLEVANIA-ISH ANNOUNCED!!!
« Last post by Eric Roman on May 14, 2024, 02:11:51 PM »
 ;D ;D ;D

wait which one was judgement again?
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General Castlevania Discussion / Re: NEW CASTLEVANIA-ISH ANNOUNCED!!!
« Last post by crisis on May 14, 2024, 11:01:56 AM »
Well I agree, but
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General Castlevania Discussion / Re: NEW CASTLEVANIA-ISH ANNOUNCED!!!
« Last post by Eric Roman on May 14, 2024, 07:36:38 AM »
adventure>legends, ror

but i think we can all agree revenge was best gmaeboy Blemont

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General Castlevania Discussion / Re: NEW CASTLEVANIA-ISH ANNOUNCED!!!
« Last post by LuxKiller65 on May 13, 2024, 08:44:36 PM »
judgment
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