Topic: Prehistoric Cemetery Reveals Man and Fox Were Pals

[Highwind Dragoon]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20110204/sc_livescience/prehistoriccemeteryrevealsmanandfoxwerepals

Interesting....

[Oralox]

meehhh...I see no use of this thread unless there are photos

[X]

Atlantis and Lemuria existed long before the aforementioned time of the date of this burial. So the concept of Death and domestication of animals goes back long before this.

-X

[Gunlord]

Foxes are cute

[Mooning Freddy]

Atlantis and Lemuria existed long before the aforementioned time

Its very existence is a mystery that has not been ever proven by actual evidence. How can you speak so surly about that?

Sure the idea of an ancient superintelligent civilization which built the Pyramids and/or Stonehenge millenia before the appearance of the Pharaohs and the Greek empire sounds cool. Yeah, I heard about such theories. But does it have any evidence? Or is it just some mad archeologist's theory?

[X]

There is evidence and it has been a very slow and tedious process to collect it. Unfortunately our current technology still cannot breach the deep depths of the Atlantic or the Pacific in clear detail. However the islanders of the pacific will tell you stories passed down through oral their oral traditions. There's even a mural in one of the many ancient cities in south America that depicts a continent being submerged while it's inhabitants flea. And before the Great Alexandria library was destroyed by Julius Caesar, It would've contained scrolls that went into detail about the lost continent, their technology, way of life, spirituality, etc. But thanks to humanity's ego of the time, we've lost it all and that is what grieves me the most. People don't just make this stuff up out of the blue unless they're driven by greed or want to pull off a practical joke. But way back in the day, such pranks didn't exist and there never was a need for them either. People were far more honest with themselves and others and it's a damn shame that we've chosen to forget those days out of our own need for material wealth and substance. Okay I'd better stop before this goes into a full-blown rant. I apologize if I've offended anyone.

How can you speak so surly about that?

Because it's how I genuinely feel inside. If you hear about something and that something just feels right to you then it's true to you. This is also a characteristic that we've lost touch with as well.

-X

[Mooning Freddy]

You know, I like your statements, X. While disagreeing with most, I cannot remain unimpressed by their honesty and depth.
The inner-truth you speak of is something one can refer to as faith, or ideology. I respect any person who is honest about his ideology.

My belief about the people of antiquity is the opposite. While you say they were more honest, I think it was the contrary. Many years ago, when people still knew very little about this world and the forces in it, there was much more space for imagination. So I think those people's imagination was far wider than ours.
People could not understand natural phenomena, so they made up explanations. The ancient Greeks are a great example, as they actually had a god "representing" every phenomenon. Similar were the Egyptians, the nations of Mesopotamia, and the native Americans. Not being able to understand the world around them, people needed alternative explanations for diseases, drought, natural disasters.
So they made up dragons, monsters and heroes with inhuman might. They needed legends to understand, and as you said yourself, most of the legends were passed orally. Since there was no physical evidence to support the legends, after some time no one can say whether they are truth or fiction. 

While many legends have some factual fractions in them, most were so exaggerated by fictional additions, that the truth is very hard to find.   

[X]

You know, I like your statements, X. While disagreeing with most, I cannot remain unimpressed by their honesty and depth.

I try my best 

-X

[Kale]

It's not just coincidence that a fox's cry sounds like a woman yelling!

Ba Dum Tish!

[Harrycombs]

Atlantis and Lemuria existed long before the aforementioned time of the date of this burial. So the concept of Death and domestication of animals goes back long before this.

-X

However the islanders of the pacific will tell you stories passed down through oral their oral traditions. There's even a mural in one of the many ancient cities in south America that depicts a continent being submerged while it's inhabitants flea.

For one, continents don't just sink. Plate tectonics don't work that way. Second, oral traditions are horribly unreliable.

Now, Islands can sink, such as Helike (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helike), and its quite possible an island that was once called Atlantis existed, but its impossible for an entire continent to do so. However, we know nothing about Atlantis except for what Plato said, and none of that suggests a technologically advanced society.

However, like you said domestication of animals does go further back than that burial site, but it most likely took place in the middle east and not in Europe or around the Mediterranean.

If you hear about something and that something just feels right to you then it's true to you. This is also a characteristic that we've lost touch with as well.

Psychologists have found that more often than not intuition like this fails.

The inner-truth you speak of is something one can refer to as faith, or ideology. I respect any person who is honest about his ideology.

Ideology is supposed to come from logic and reasoning and not faith. You don't vote Democrat because it feels right to you, you vote Democrat because you want health care and gun control.


More on topic though, its fascinating that the Fox was domesticated in that society. Seeing that throughout the world there are many societies that hold the Fox in high regard, maybe the love for the dog and its cousins in all human cultures have a common link in the Middle East.