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« Reply #3870 on: September 28, 2013, 09:08:33 AM »
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I think the B-Horror movie aesthetics were already dropped after CVI-III. Bloodlines may have the film reel opening, but it became more gothic atmospherically. Similarly, SCIV feels more like the stage of a gothic vampire novel instead of bad cinema slock. The GB titles never adhered to that concept in the first place.   

I didn't strictly mean B-Horror, but horror cinema(particularly classic, or in the case of the early CVs, up to that point[80s-90s]) as a whole. I thought Bloodlines felt more like something you'd see at that time in horror(particularly Charles Band's Subspecies). The opening scene for SotN(the view of the castle) reminds me of something very Roger Corman-esque. The CV64 games gave me somewhat of a Hammer-feeling. In the end, any one that references the Boris Karloff Frankenstein Monster really is channeling classic horror cinema. CV used that look up to OoE(in the Minera Prison lab). The classics always had staying power and were HIGHLY influential on horror as a whole.
 
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They'll say that it's the werstern manuals that matters. I think that this bullcrap of "taking itself seriously" was debunked so many times already, but people will always says otherwise.

A Japanese game will always have anime influences somewhere. I don't remember a big japanese series that didn't have anime influences.

I've said this before, I don't think having anime influences is bad, as long as it's GOOD anime(RoB is an great example, as is Bloodlines, which both have an anime style modeled after 80s/early 90s anime that offers great structure, detailing and shading). When it's "garden variety" fluff(which DoS and PoR seems to be more modeled after), that's when I have a problem.


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« Reply #3871 on: September 28, 2013, 10:01:49 AM »
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« Reply #3872 on: September 28, 2013, 06:41:15 PM »
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« Reply #3873 on: September 28, 2013, 07:15:40 PM »
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Bullcrap, 90's anime look like shit. Nostalgia is the only thing that saves it.
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« Reply #3874 on: September 28, 2013, 10:05:44 PM »
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Bullcrap, 90's anime look like shit. Nostalgia is the only thing that saves it.

I disagree. A lot of my favorite animes are from the 90's.
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« Reply #3875 on: September 28, 2013, 10:07:32 PM »
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Bullcrap, 90's anime look like shit. Nostalgia is the only thing that saves it.
Some are good, some are bad. It's not like I'd think Neon Genesis Evangelion, Devil Hunter Yohko, Ranma 1/2(or anything Rumiko Takahashi) Sailor Moon or X/1999(or for that matter, anything CLAMP related) are suitable artstyles for a CV anime look(even though, personally, I like all of those anime respectively, among others like The Slayers, Tenchi Muyo, Outlaw Star, among many MANY others). But something like Genocyber, Ninja Scroll, or Berserk. I wanted to say some, like Wicked City, but that was 80s, as was M.D. Geist and City Hunter.

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« Reply #3876 on: September 29, 2013, 02:01:12 AM »
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There were a lot of great animes made in the 90s. The recent animes just don't hold very well if you compare them to those made back then. It is not just about nostalgia, I believe there was more thought and less filler episodes. Yes, there are still some good animes nowadays, but they are few and far between. An improvement I can see in today's anime is the proper integration of 3d effects on the show, and much neater lines, since studios are no longer drawing cels by hand.

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« Reply #3877 on: September 29, 2013, 08:10:34 AM »
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And what about studio ghibli? Their films from the 90's look incredible today. I read an article where Princess mononoke was recently included in the top ten best animated films of all time.

Everything about that film is flawless. Even the score.

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« Reply #3878 on: September 29, 2013, 09:17:38 AM »
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And what about studio ghibli? Their films from the 90's look incredible today. I read an article where Princess mononoke was recently included in the top ten best animated films of all time.

Everything about that film is flawless. Even the score.

I know a lot of people seem confused about actual release dates of Ghibli films, especially since many of their older movies get re-releases, and it's not always clear what is an old movie and what's brand new. I'm still not sure and have to check wikipedia everytime a Ghibli film is being discussed... But yeah, most of those films look spectacular, old or new.

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« Reply #3879 on: September 29, 2013, 09:24:22 AM »
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And what about studio ghibli? Their films from the 90's look incredible today. I read an article where Princess mononoke was recently included in the top ten best animated films of all time.

Everything about that film is flawless. Even the score.
First, I'm talking about the usual budget release animes. Ghibli studio's movies were always ahead of their time.

What I'm talking about is the animation and the art of these animes that were shown on TV. Comparing them to most of the new ones makes them look like joke on these two aspects. I can't even start to say how many bad looking animes I like...

To the end of 90's we started to get some great looking animes. Probably the highest point of anime.

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« Reply #3880 on: September 29, 2013, 10:45:21 AM »
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First, I'm talking about the usual budget release animes. Ghibli studio's movies were always ahead of their time.

What I'm talking about is the animation and the art of these animes that were shown on TV. Comparing them to most of the new ones makes them look like joke on these two aspects. I can't even start to say how many bad looking animes I like...

To the end of 90's we started to get some great looking animes. Probably the highest point of anime.
I'm not talking animation more than I am character design and art direction. One Piece is sure a great anime series(manga too), and the anime has some great animation(fluidity in movement), but I wouldn't say the style is best suited for the CV series. Neither do I feel the same regarding FLCL, Excel Saga, Serial Experiments Lain. An artstyle in the vein of Cowboy Bebop, Spriggan or Blue Gender might work, though.

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« Reply #3881 on: September 29, 2013, 10:45:58 AM »
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Bullcrap, 90's anime look like shit. Nostalgia is the only thing that saves it.
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« Reply #3882 on: September 29, 2013, 06:05:06 PM »
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Bullcrap, 90's anime look like shit. Nostalgia is the only thing that saves it.

Define "good".

I always thought Ruroni Kenshin was animated pretty well, and I didn't actually watch it until well into the 2000s.

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« Reply #3883 on: September 29, 2013, 06:58:38 PM »
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Define "good".

I always thought Ruroni Kenshin was animated pretty well, and I didn't actually watch it until well into the 2000s.
It was a very good exception... even then, some episodes were pretty rough. The second ending is GODLY though.

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« Reply #3884 on: September 29, 2013, 11:53:27 PM »
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Konami leak guy did hint that there is a possibility something like this would be implemented into the game. Apparently the higher ups are the ones who think flashy QTEs are what most people want...

Not that QTEs are a deal breaker for me, but I'll believe it when I see it. Would be nice to have that option.