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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #1830 on: June 03, 2012, 10:05:43 PM »
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Am I the only one that firmly believe's that Alucard and Trevor are NOT the same person? I don't think Mercurysteam would pull a repeat of what happened to Gabriel otherwise it would be a little too predictable.

I dunno...I would assume they wouldn't combine the two, but I'm very wary of it at the same time.

I'll say this: if they put titans in this one, in the same format they were in the first game, then I could totally see them combining Alucard and Trevor, too.  :P

EDIT: Crap, I'm talking about the wrong game.
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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #1831 on: June 03, 2012, 10:10:03 PM »
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Am I the only one that firmly believe's that Alucard and Trevor are NOT the same person? I don't think Mercurysteam would pull a repeat of what happened to Gabriel otherwise it would be a little too predictable.

But repeats are poignant when they add something to the story, like painting parallels.

For example, Gabriel became Dracula by willingly accepting vampiric and demonic power into his body. It could be cool if Dracula tries to turn his son into his follower by corrupting him, but Trevor resists, not wanting to fall under the evil influence of his dark power.

Then you'd have the vampire who willingly fell into darkness, and the vampire who never wanted it and tries his best to be good despite it.

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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #1832 on: June 03, 2012, 10:13:56 PM »
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Am I the only one that firmly believe's that Alucard and Trevor are NOT the same person? I don't think Mercurysteam would pull a repeat of what happened to Gabriel otherwise it would be a little too predictable.
I also like the theory that Alucard could be an alternate version of Gabriel, like his good side, from the future, or a version from an alternate universe who made different decisions.  That would be neat since in Bram Stoker's Dracula, it was Dracula who was using the name Alucard.  It seemed that they tried to hide "Alucard"s face in the trailer (other than the reflected eyes), as if you would recognize it if you saw it (either Trevor or Gabriel's).

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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #1833 on: June 03, 2012, 10:46:30 PM »
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I also like the theory that Alucard could be an alternate version of Gabriel, like his good side, from the future, or a version from an alternate universe who made different decisions.  That would be neat since in Bram Stoker's Dracula, it was Dracula who was using the name Alucard.  It seemed that they tried to hide "Alucard"s face in the trailer (other than the reflected eyes), as if you would recognize it if you saw it (either Trevor or Gabriel's).

That's the thing that puts a hole in the Trevor=Alucard theory. If Trevor was a vampire like Gabriel, he wouldn't be able to cast a reflection because well.....vampires can't cast reflections as demonstrated in the trailer by Dracula himself. Also, remember that Trevor can't be a dhampir either considering he was born before the event's of LOS so he's pretty much human.

And if Trevor did become a vampire this would also put a dent in Simons existance considering he's also human and a direct descendant to Trevor.

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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #1834 on: June 03, 2012, 11:06:31 PM »
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Am I the only one that firmly believe's that Alucard and Trevor are NOT the same person? I don't think Mercurysteam would pull a repeat of what happened to Gabriel otherwise it would be a little too predictable.

Let's hope.

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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #1835 on: June 04, 2012, 07:18:26 AM »
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But repeats are poignant when they add something to the story, like painting parallels.

For example, Gabriel became Dracula by willingly accepting vampiric and demonic power into his body. It could be cool if Dracula tries to turn his son into his follower by corrupting him, but Trevor resists, not wanting to fall under the evil influence of his dark power.

Then you'd have the vampire who willingly fell into darkness, and the vampire who never wanted it and tries his best to be good despite it.

It would certainly add some weight to the name "Alucard" as well, making him his father's equal and opposite in several interesting ways.

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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #1836 on: June 04, 2012, 07:20:35 AM »
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I don't think Mercurysteam would pull a repeat of what happened to Gabriel otherwise it would be a little too predictable.

Have you seen the LoS plotline so far? It would fit right in.

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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #1837 on: June 04, 2012, 08:26:03 AM »
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Well I guess I really am alone on this then. :(


So since if everyone believes that Trevor is Alucard, what does that mean for Simon? If Trevor became a vampire, That mean's that Simon will die in Mirror of Fate. And the Belmont clan, (who are still hunting Dracula in Lords of Shadow 2) will be non existant.

Wait a minute, what if it's not the Belmont clan, maybe it's another clan who replaced them:

The Morris Family! :D

Ok im convinced now, I now believe with all of you that the Belmont clan are vampires and that the Vampire Killer will fall into the hands of their once rival clan. Get ready for the return of Jonathan Morris and Charlotte tag teaming against Zobek and Dracula at the end!

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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #1838 on: June 04, 2012, 08:37:30 AM »
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Well I guess I really am alone on this then. :(


So since if everyone believes that Trevor is Alucard, what does that mean for Simon? If Trevor became a vampire, That mean's that Simon will die in Mirror of Fate. And the Belmont clan, (who are still hunting Dracula in Lords of Shadow 2) will be non existant.

Wait a minute, what if it's not the Belmont clan, maybe it's another clan who replaced them:

The Morris Family! :D

Ok im convinced now, I now believe with all of you that the Belmont clan are vampires and that the Vampire Killer will fall into the hands of their once rival clan. Get ready for the return of Jonathan Morris and Charlotte tag teaming against Zobek and Dracula at the end!

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Well it's possible that Trevor has a human son before he turns (if he does), so the Belmont's can still exist even though Gabriel and Trevor are vampires. Maybe we'll see Sypha in this game?

Also I`m curious about Vampire Killer. It has to be made after Trevor since he doesn`t use it, maybe he`ll make it a similar way Sarah was needed in LoI... If he becomes Alucard then I suppose he could count as an innocent vampire. Or VK just has a new origin story altogether.

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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #1839 on: June 04, 2012, 08:37:35 AM »
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I also like the theory that Alucard could be an alternate version of Gabriel, like his good side, from the future, or a version from an alternate universe who made different decisions.  That would be neat since in Bram Stoker's Dracula, it was Dracula who was using the name Alucard.  It seemed that they tried to hide "Alucard"s face in the trailer (other than the reflected eyes), as if you would recognize it if you saw it (either Trevor or Gabriel's).

I definitely am behind this idea over Trevor being Alucard. However, I do have to point out that the name Alucard was never used in Bram Stoker's Dracula. It's an invention of Hollywood's sequels.
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« Reply #1840 on: June 04, 2012, 09:36:52 AM »
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I feel like the Trevor being Alucard idea would sort of cut against what they're trying to do with this game--i.e. appeal to people who the LoS universe sort of offended. Making a "change" like that in what the LoS timeline is like vs the regular timeline would just be another potential offense to that crowd.

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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #1841 on: June 04, 2012, 01:37:42 PM »
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I feel like the Trevor being Alucard idea would sort of cut against what they're trying to do with this game--i.e. appeal to people who the LoS universe sort of offended. Making a "change" like that in what the LoS timeline is like vs the regular timeline would just be another potential offense to that crowd.

But it's important to remember that it's still a LoS game, so while the gameplay might be trying to appeal to that crowd, the story needs to mesh with LoS and LoS2, which aren't taking any precautions against radical changes

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Re: Castlevania: Lords of Shadow - Mirror of Fate 3DS (Discussion Thread)
« Reply #1842 on: June 04, 2012, 01:48:41 PM »
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Um, G4 just showed a new gameplay trailer with animated cutscenes. I guess there will be an online version soon.

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« Reply #1843 on: June 04, 2012, 01:54:59 PM »
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Um, G4 just showed a new gameplay trailer with animated cutscenes. I guess there will be an online version soon.

Cannot wait to see it tomorrow I hope it will be worldwide live from them on the big nintendo screen when it get's presented I hope thousands upon thousands see the trailer.
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« Reply #1844 on: June 04, 2012, 01:56:20 PM »
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Um, G4 just showed a new gameplay trailer with animated cutscenes. I guess there will be an online version soon.

How did it look?

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