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Re: IGA's new project finally teased at PAX?
« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2014, 07:22:20 PM »
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I'm not so sure. I think Alucard from Hellsing might have been officially trademarked as "Arucard" to avoid conflicting with Konami. (At least I know for figures and things in the past he's been advertised as "Arucard") But I'm not sure. Konami could have a trademark on "Alucard" as related to games. But since the player character in the poster is just referred to as "Alchemist" I don't think it matters too much
The name Alucard can't be copyrighted. For one, the concept and name comes from the Lon Chaney Jr film, Son of Dracula, which is public domain by now, along with the original. Alucard is a OH SO CLEVER idea because it's Dracula Backwards. CV Alucard is VERY much inspired by the film son of Dracula, except he actually is the son of Dracula, where the movie has it just as Dracula in disguise.

Hellsing Alucard IS Dracula, which actually brings it much more in line with the movie.

Either way, Arucard is because the Japanese cannot into L's. Same way you might see Dracula spelled and or pronounced Dracura
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Re: IGA's new project finally teased at PAX?
« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2014, 09:22:51 PM »
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The name Alucard can't be copyrighted. For one, the concept and name comes from the Lon Chaney Jr film, Son of Dracula, which is public domain by now, along with the original. Alucard is a OH SO CLEVER idea because it's Dracula Backwards. CV Alucard is VERY much inspired by the film son of Dracula, except he actually is the son of Dracula, where the movie has it just as Dracula in disguise.

Hellsing Alucard IS Dracula, which actually brings it much more in line with the movie.

Either way, Arucard is because the Japanese cannot into L's. Same way you might see Dracula spelled and or pronounced Dracura

Nah Son of Dracula isn't in the public domain. Universal managed to renew the copyrights to it continually over the years and with a "reboot" coming you can expect it and the rest of Universal's classic monster movies to remain in copyright until after we're all dead. There are a lot of films from before during and after that time that are in the public domain, but most of them were either A.) Allowed to lapse into it because home video didn't exist and they were probably just forgotten about for decades. or B.) They were never copyrighted in the first place. Usually because they were quick cheapies and/or foreign films that it wouldn't have made sense to go to the trouble of copyrighting them at the time. This is why a lot of 70s Hong Kong kung fu movies are public domain. Or simply because of clerical errors like what happened with "Night of the Living Dead"

On the other hand the Universal monster movies have the unique position of having been near-consistently popular for about 4 or 5 decades. Universal's 1931 Dracula was already a beloved classic when Hammer "reimagined" it in 1958. Having (along with most of the rest of Universal's monster movies) found new popularity with TV re-runs in the 1950s.
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Re: IGA's new project finally teased at PAX?
« Reply #47 on: September 04, 2014, 01:10:59 AM »
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Alucard is Alucard in the Hellsing manga. Not sure why the subtitles for both anime series officially type it as Arucard, but in the English dub he's Alucard, SOOOO, I dunno.
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Re: IGA's new project finally teased at PAX?
« Reply #48 on: September 04, 2014, 04:18:17 PM »
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I know of at least one character in another game that has nothing to do with Konami who is named Alucard... and is a vampire.


And I found that BlazeBlue has a character named Rachel Alucard.


And there is no record of a trademark for Alucard in the database at www.uspto.gov/trademarks/
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Re: IGA's new project finally teased at PAX?
« Reply #49 on: September 04, 2014, 04:31:38 PM »
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Nah Son of Dracula isn't in the public domain. Universal managed to renew the copyrights to it continually over the years and with a "reboot" coming you can expect it and the rest of Universal's classic monster movies to remain in copyright until after we're all dead.

Anything prior to 1964 had something like 28 years of protection and required renewal to get another 28 years.
Another copyright act extended the second term to 50-something years for a total of 75 years.
Copyright Act of 1998 basically renders copyright renewal as nothing more than an optional formality.
Anything made in 1964 or after now has a maximum copyright protection term of 95 years.
So they will loose the copyright of the old films before we die.
Any new movies are a different story.

EDIT: shit, double posted. :P
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Re: IGA's new project finally teased at PAX?
« Reply #50 on: September 04, 2014, 05:34:08 PM »
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Anyway, I doubt Alucard name will even be used on this new game so... :)

I'm so fucking hyped, I was waiting for something from him for so long. If he can get Conception and IntiCreates to make his new game... hnnng!!

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Re: IGA's new project finally teased at PAX?
« Reply #51 on: September 04, 2014, 05:41:03 PM »
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I dunno. Iga said more than once that he is going to give his fans what they want.
Could you imagine if he actually did the 1999 game, but from the point of view of a new character with no direct mention of the Belmonts?
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Re: IGA's new project finally teased at PAX?
« Reply #52 on: September 04, 2014, 06:02:19 PM »
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I dunno. Iga said more than once that he is going to give his fans what they want.
Could you imagine if he actually did the 1999 game, but from the point of view of a new character with no direct mention of the Belmonts?
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Indeed, that would be very interesting... I mean, the 1999 Wars is no copyrighted by Konami, isn´t? Its only mentions that I remember is in the Aria of Sorrow game, but I can´t see the R for Registered in the 1999 war mention...

...So, I believe that a 1999 game is possible...
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Re: IGA's new project finally teased at PAX?
« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2014, 06:38:49 PM »
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Nah, he won't even mention Castlevania anymore. Maybe as a cameo, if Konami gives authorization.

You guys need to understand that he got out of Konami to work on games that his fans wanted (metroidvania). That doesn't mean that he'll do a Castlevania, just a game that's similar enough. The history will be completely different. It will be a new ip after all.

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Re: IGA's new project finally teased at PAX?
« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2014, 07:31:54 PM »
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You guys need to understand that he got out of Konami to work on games that his fans wanted (metroidvania). That doesn't mean that he'll do a Castlevania, just a game that's similar enough. The history will be completely different. It will be a new ip after all.

I think people understand full well that he will not being doing a Castlevania game completely, but there is the likely chance that he will use elements from the CV series for his game whether that be a creepy castle, the name alucard, Dracula and vampires,zombies,ghosts, or even having a game take place within the 1999 lunar eclipse.

All those elements are not trademarked by Konami and he could very well use any number of them if he chose, obviously the history is going to be different since this is a new IP, but that does not mean the game can't feel very castlevania'like aesthetically,story and gameplay wise.


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Re: IGA's new project finally teased at PAX?
« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2014, 07:44:35 PM »
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I think people understand full well that he will not being doing a Castlevania game completely, but there is the likely chance that he will use elements from the CV series for his game whether that be a creepy castle, the name alucard, Dracula and vampires,zombies,ghosts, or even having a game take place within the 1999 lunar eclipse.

All those elements are not trademarked by Konami and he could very well use any number of them if he chose, obviously the history is going to be different since this is a new IP, but that does not mean the game can't feel very castlevania'like aesthetically,story and gameplay wise.

Totally agree.

I take Mighty No. 9 example. Is Inafune first project? It takes A LOT of the classic Megaman elements (8 robot masters, platforming, appareance, music style, gameplay... Even a Proto Man and Roll-like characters).

I join all of the ones who wants a Castlevania-esque game. After all, the image at the begining of this thread indicates something like the Castlevania ambience... Even if is fake...
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Re: IGA's new project finally teased at PAX?
« Reply #56 on: September 04, 2014, 08:08:35 PM »
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I hope he keeps whips in it...heroes with whips.  I like heroes with whips.

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Re: IGA's new project finally teased at PAX?
« Reply #57 on: September 04, 2014, 08:14:12 PM »
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Alucard is Alucard in the Hellsing manga. Not sure why the subtitles for both anime series officially type it as Arucard, but in the English dub he's Alucard, SOOOO, I dunno.

It's also officially "Arucard" on at least some of the merchandise. I've got the bust that came with the special edition of the first Ultimate DVD and it's got "ARUCARD" emblazoned down the side of the box in big dumb letters. Kind of a sucky wall plaque TBH, the Andersson one was much better. They never released the 3rd one in the states but I'd be kind of uncomfortable with hanging the Major with a big swastika behind him on my wall anyways.

Anything prior to 1964 had something like 28 years of protection and required renewal to get another 28 years.
Another copyright act extended the second term to 50-something years for a total of 75 years.
Copyright Act of 1998 basically renders copyright renewal as nothing more than an optional formality.
Anything made in 1964 or after now has a maximum copyright protection term of 95 years.
So they will loose the copyright of the old films before we die.
Any new movies are a different story.

EDIT: shit, double posted. :P

But then shouldn't the original Dracula and Frankenstein both be in the public domain now? They're like 83 years old. Also cool to hear Alucard isn't trademarked, at least in the US. Could be that they just branded Hellsing's Alucard as "Arucard" so the Japanese could pronounce it. Then people decided the Japanese pronunciation was "better" like the people who insist on calling Guts from Berserk "Gatts" or "Gattsu"
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Re: IGA's new project finally teased at PAX?
« Reply #58 on: September 05, 2014, 02:41:59 PM »
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No Castlevania at next TGS, apparently.

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Re: IGA's new project finally teased at PAX?
« Reply #59 on: September 05, 2014, 06:48:39 PM »
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People will have to wait a bit for the next Castlevania project from Konami, it can take a few years of development.

Specially if it's being made by Kojima or does have his involvement somehow (he has MGS V and Silent Hills after that to work after all). Maybe another oversee role.

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