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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: Eric Roman on March 13, 2010, 04:22:35 PM
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First Richter busts his ass to save this Annette chick, and then during Symphony, she's nowhere to be found!
Now, we've got this CVIIILand-based slot machine with this really hot chick that gives TRalphor a hand by clearing a room full of skeletons...and it's not even Sypha!
What's going on here? o_O
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That's some clever observation, detective. Could it be there's a hidden agenda where the females are all succubus, tasked to lure the Belmont Clan from prosperity and battle Dracula forever [because he needs it]
Or am I just losing my mind
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At this juncture, we must consider every possibility! ::monocle::
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When Belmont children are born, the mother's soul is sucked into the Vampire Killer whip.
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scary! i can't think of anything that would discount that theory.
It's odd that Richter nor Maria made any mention of Annette in the radio drama as far as I can tell. I think someone else here theorized that Richter may have killed Annette when he was influenced by Shaft, and hence had no heirs.
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The Belmonts reproduce by mitosis. This is why there are no Belmont wives. They are fragile creatures that will die if they touch water.
When a new bud breaks off, it is family tradition to dye his hair a different color and pass the Vampire Killer to him.
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The Belmonts reproduce by mitosis. This is why there are no Belmont wives. They are fragile creatures that will die if they touch water.
When a new bud breaks off, it is family tradition to dye his hair a different color and pass the Vampire Killer to him.
LOL. In my opinion, the reason they aren't mentioned is because for the most part they are ordinary women (except for Sypha that is). I'm surprised that she wasn't in CoD, but she could have been home and possibly pregnant.
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if comics mean anything (and Iga at least had some input into them), Belmont women are usually warriors in their own right (according to an interview with one of the guys who made the Belmont Legacy comics at least). of course, Annette had to turn into a vampire for us to see it with her.
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I always thought Sypha was Trevor's bride and mother of his child, which was why Juste (simon's grandson) could use super magic down the line.
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yes, that has been the official canon since Harmony of Dissonance came out.
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Well the SotN is explained by Richter either failing to save his romantic interest, or the simple fact he was influenced by evil and headed off to resurrect Dracula alone without telling anyone. He vanished and then the castle appeared, causing Maria to search it assuming that he was likely in it's confines.
The one thing that irks me in Castlevania is how so many of the females we do see are a hapless harlots.
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blame IGA for that.
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We're all thinkin' it, I'm just sayin' it...
We need a PoR homebrew!
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Hmm, we've had a few outside refrences to the wifes and love intrests of castlevania, but they were less then flattering. I recall a number of horrid Japanese manga porn of Maria and even the lead of OoE that my friend showed me some months ago. Overall, women do not get fair treatment in anything related to castlevania, lol.
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There was this one time I was playing Symphony of the Night--I was probably slicing up some Venus Weeds with the Crissaegrim--and I suddenly thought, "...when did CastleVania become about brutality against women?"
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*cough!* IGA *cough!* I know we're not supposed to IGA bash but it all fits at about the same time he took over production of the series. The only woman we didn't mind killing was Medusa. Cause if you didn't kill her first then you were turned to stone and presented at the CV marble gallery.
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When news of Igarashi-sama brutally whipping Yamane and Kojima-san for shits n' giggles surfaces, I'll agree with you two.
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PPPPPPppphhh . . .
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When news of Igarashi-sama brutally whipping Yamane and Kojima-san for shits n' giggles surfaces, I'll agree with you two.
Couldn't be more right.
We're all thinkin' it, I'm just sayin' it...
We need a PoR homebrew!
PoR sucked. The only one of the 3 DS CV's to not win an Editor's Choice at GameSpy.
BTW, the only Belmonts with Wives (or Wive-to-be's) are Juste, Ralph and Richter. The rest, I have no idea how they have children. Yet the clan continues. What the fuck, IGA?
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. . . . Mm'kay, while anyone else out there is thinkin' it I'm gonna' go ahead and say it. You do realize that one does not have to be married to have children, right?
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PoR was great in that you could play with a variety of whips again, but if you didn't like whips, you could pretend you were Alucard.
Other Belmonts have wives if you look at non-canon sources, such as Haunted Castle or the Simon's Quest children's novel for Simon and the Belmont Legacy for Christopher (Lydie for Juste is just speculation). I wonder if Julius gets a wife in that novel they made??
Belmonts should really make sure they take the time to have children first before venturing into the castle though, just in case... But I suppose if they fail, their kids are as good as dead anyways.
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Hey Felix you forgot about Haunted castle. Simon was just married at the intro of the game. at the end of the game the happy couple are watching Dracula's castle sink into the ground. Simon married a woman with blond hair and blue eyes. I think he must have a thing for california girls... ;)
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There was this one time I was playing Symphony of the Night--I was probably slicing up some Venus Weeds with the Crissaegrim--and I suddenly thought, "...when did CastleVania become about brutality against women?"
Considering the amount of male monsters you cleave through dwarves that of female monsters, I don't see anything wrong with what IGA did. Equal opportunity, no? Hey, if you're workin' for the Dark Lord, male or female, the Vampire Killer whip chooses no favors as far as the sexes are concerned. All who align themselves with darkness feel's thy wrath! ;D
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True enough. But the only sexual equality I want to see is on the heros side of CV. no more women playing the sidekick. It's getting old. I wanna see women as the main characters. Like with OoE but with Belmonts instead of dracula-killing first timers (which shouldn't be possible cause it messes with what's been established.) okay I'm ranting again. Back to the Belmont Wives, yo!
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I'd actualy like to see Dracula try to ressurect himself via woman's body.
Dracula: "Ahh... yes my servents! I have returned your grand and glorio... w-wait? Why do I have breasts!?"
Shaft: "Sorry my lord, we ran out of evil young males a decade ago. On the bright side, the Shaft digs them baby!"
Dracula: "..."
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I'd actualy like to see Dracula try to ressurect himself via woman's body.
Dracula: "Ahh... yes my servents! I have returned your grand and glorio... w-wait? Why do I have breasts!?"
Shaft: "Sorry my lord, we ran out of evil young males a decade ago. On the bright side, the Shaft digs them baby!"
Dracula: "..."
LOL
You know what, a female equivilent of Dracula as the main Villain would be a pretty cool idea.
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LOL
You know what, a female equivilent of Dracula as the main Villain would be a pretty cool idea.
Well there is Carmilla and Elizabeth Bartley..
To have one of them with greater roles would be awsome.
Carmilla have been used a number of times, but have not gotten any bigger part. And Elizabeth Bartley I'm not so sure how much she have been in.
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Castlevania Resurrection was going to have a female Dracula (The Countess, possibly Elizabeth Bartley, but we don't know, she was dubbed Dracula's lover, which would be odd for his niece, but vampires probably don't care about such things) that would team up with the male Dracula. This would make it an even fight for a female and male Belmont.
http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/File:Res_concept-art2.jpeg
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Dracula visit's Jusenkyo in china and slips.
"Ooh, you fall in curse spring of drown girl. Very tragic story of beautiful girl who drown in spring one thousand, five hundred year ago."
Excript from Ranma 1/2
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yea i heard about this "women" from the slot machine helping out Trevor but Sypha is CONFIRMED mother of his child and wife through CVHOD.
maybe that women was a fling or something ;)
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my theory was that Angela was a relative of Sypha's who worked for the church as Sypha's replacement after she settled down. and a major tease to her "big brother" Trevor...
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Interesting about Darcula's past love interests, they were all reincarnations of the same woman he loved when human, and before he became Dracula. Him suddenly getting a countess as a lover. Well that makes me wonder...
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Annette obviously left Richter because he was spending way too much time with Sara.
blame IGA for that.
Castlevania's useless females predate IGA (http://www.chapelofresonance.com/forum/index.php/topic,5627.0.html).
I recall a number of horrid Japanese manga porn of Maria
(https://castlevaniadungeon.net/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi44.tinypic.com%2F10omtlw.jpg&hash=b6218ae8490c6084b09c5e9609b745be5acd7b89)
hows it goin
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It's true that they do. But once IGA took over the reins the usless female-ism increased a hundred fold.
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Let's see, when only considering "good" women:
Usefull females (can fight) by Iga :
Yoko Belnades
Charlotte Aulin
Stella (but still victim of vampirism)
Loretta (but still victim of vampirism)
Shanoa
"Usefull" reimaginations of earlier characters by Iga:
Maria
Sypha
"Usefull" females not reimagined by Iga:
Carrie Fernandez
Sonia Belmont
Carrie's cousin (but still a victim of vampirism)
"Useless females" (can't fight) by Iga:
Liddy Erlanger
Mina Hakuba
Sarah Trantoul
Lisa
Elizabetha
Rosalee
Julia
Misc female Wygol villagers with just as many "useless" males, so they kind of cancel each other out.
"Useless females" before Iga but re-imagined by him:
Annette
Tera
Iris
Rondo sacrifice girl
"Useless females" before Iga but not re-imagined by him:
Legacy of Darkness sacrifice girl
Simon's bride in Haunted Castle
Ada
Rosa (probably couldn't fight until turned to a vampire)
"Useless males" by Iga:
Hammer (ironically)
Vincent
All male wygol villagers
The Merchant / Master Librarian (might not count, as they're somewhat of enigmas)
And some others created by others, but "overseen" by Iga
Michelle Danasty (novel) - Usefull
Illyana Riktor Belmont (Belmont Legacy) - Usefull (but still got captured)
Pasha Totoyan (Belmont Legacy) - Usefull
Liza (LoI manga) - probably usefull
Justine Gandolfi (LoI manga) - useless (vampire victim)
Angela (Pachislot) - usefull
Zoe Belmont (Order of Shadows) - usefull, but not shown fighting
Dolores Belmont (Order of Shadows) - usefull, but not shown fighting
Lady Gunner (Arcade) - usefull
Little Witch (Arcade) - usefull
didn't get any "worse" during Iga's reign, though it does depend how you count them.
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Misc female Wygol villagers with just as many "useless" males, so they kind of cancel each other out.
That Belmont baker was totally fighting for the fate of the world with his delicious pastries.
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Wait didn't Vincent actualy turn into a Vampire if you took too long? Not that he was a terribly tough boss. But still...
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ha, there's two "Vincents" who were turned into vampires. Charles Vincent from Castlevania 64. I didn't count him as useless because he can fight, although he sucks. I was thinking of Vincent from Portrait of Ruin. Too bad you didn't get to fight him for a few laughs when he got turned into a vampire.
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oh right, that irritating priest. Hmm, I was sorta hoping he would turn into a cool villian since his character was so... "Blah!"
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Other Belmonts have wives if you look at non-canon sources, such as Haunted Castle or the Simon's Quest children's novel for Simon and the Belmont Legacy for Christopher (Lydie for Juste is just speculation). I wonder if Julius gets a wife in that novel they made??
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Oh hey, I guess Lydie for Juste isn't quite as speculative as I had thought. I didn't realize there was a "best best" ending in Harmony of Dissonance where Lydie leans on Juste and clings to his arm if he completely furbishes that one room. Guess their relationship might not be totally platonic after all.
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Well in a technical sense, the shopkeepers (chief among them Julia) weren't entirely useless per se. They did provide you with goods and services after all, especially the ones that actually were willing to buy back useless equipment. Also, Sarah Trantoul proved useful in death by powering up the vampire killer to its final stage of evolution.
Not to go overboard here though. I personally draw the line of usefulness at uttering tips for progression from the safety of a castle entrance.
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Useful Character: Actually helps you through the game. Recall how Genya helps Soma.
Not so useful: You may have to find him in order to make him help you. Recall all merchants.
Useless:
uttering tips for progression from the safety of a castle entrance.
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most useless would have to be the CV2 NPC's some talked utter nonesense to confuse and prank you like "Bang your head agaisnt the cliff's wall to find your way." It was rather irritating at times that you could travel all of transelvania and there was not a single hint to actualy let you pass the level from the NPC's you had to read a guide to beat the game. >_>
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Agreed. If there is ever a CV II redux, there should be more concrete clues as to where to go and a few helpful NPCs. For instance, the crystal knights commenting on the power of the crystals. "This orb can change the course of rivers/command the four winds." Then later on a helpful old man who sees one of the crystals in your possesion tells you that "only the penitent man may pass through Deborha Cliff." Just a thought. ^_^
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yes, like a 7 year old is going to figure that out right away. XD It's why I went right back to playing Ninja Gaiden after the 8th time geting stuck at the cliff part.
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::) Yes of course. Silly me. Always believing children old enough to speak and ask questions would be capable of doing something bold and radical like... Ohhh I dunno... Asking their parents for some help? Doing some research? Following through on their passion for the game, that's all. Guess I take these things like that for granted seeing as how back in the days before the internet existed, I would pick up a dictionary. ^_^
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If the Belmont women weren't useless, why else would the blood of a Belmont female make you a half-useless Morris or something of the like?
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try asking adults 2 help you in a game when they couldn't even manage a vcr (I had to always program it.), simply maddening.