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Title: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on April 05, 2010, 08:15:20 PM
This is a hack made by my good friend CoolStark720 "and i helped ;) " and has now oficially been released on my CV website.
i wana know wut are your thoughts on this Hack that me and CoolStark made
here is the link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnYyUJndIbA
tell me your thoughts ;D
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Profbeanburrito on April 05, 2010, 09:33:19 PM
It looks cool, if only I could see the Sprite better. I don't like how its always bright red when you dash, but still pretty cool
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on April 05, 2010, 09:46:06 PM
It looks cool, if only I could see the Sprite better. I don't like how its always bright red when you dash, but still pretty cool

we'll the video uploaded in low quality for some reason so thats why some stuff doesn't look good in the video but trust me it looks MUCH better ingame.
me and Coolstark improved alot of things from the initial trailer before finally releasing it
oh and thanks ;D
glade to hear you think its cool
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Raphael Belmont on April 06, 2010, 04:45:22 AM
don't get me wrong dude, i support any kind of cv hack, any kind, but your changes, there are minors.....Serio made an awesome hack of HoD (unfinished) changing background to more "dead" colors and "vivant" ones too....he even changed some music....there's Nocturne in it!!!   :o

but he got bored, who knows....he vanished. Maybe you could get his, finish it adding some of your ideas and there....a cool hack in corporation and colaboration of true fans!!!   ;)
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on April 06, 2010, 06:21:07 AM
don't get me wrong dude, i support any kind of cv hack, any kind, but your changes, there are minors.....Serio made an awesome hack of HoD (unfinished) changing background to more "dead" colors and "vivant" ones too....he even changed some music....there's Nocturne in it!!!   :o

but he got bored, who knows....he vanished. Maybe you could get his, finish it adding some of your ideas and there....a cool hack in corporation and colaboration of true fans!!!   ;)
the changes may "seem" minor but trust me they are alot harder then it looks.
TLP "wich is the program used" makes it to were you
a.have to find the right type of color since the colors are diffrent on the initial sprite. like say Blue is black while green is light blue and etc. its very tedious having to find the right color.
and
b.you have to recolor ALL the animations tile by tile wich is litterly around 100 or so sprites. so doing so takes alot of time and effort.
and as i said me and Coolstark improved ALOT from the initial Trailer so you really should try the final release ;) And Serio's Hack was pretty awesome but its for the Japaness version while mine is one of the ONLY HOD Hacks for the American. ;D
also you have to realize that CV games are the HARDEST to hack since they aren't pc titles were they are completly open file
and another thing is i'm not sure wut program Serio used for his hack??? have any ideas?
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on April 06, 2010, 07:53:01 AM
Hello! I also made a hack of CVHOD that change some palettes and sprites,
Edit: new link:

http://www.filefactory.com/file/b25ge70/n/2CV_HoD.zip

sorry for my bad english.
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on April 06, 2010, 11:08:50 AM
@DarkPrinceAlucard it's acctually very easy to choose color for TLP if you are using VBA.
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on April 06, 2010, 12:53:51 PM
@DarkPrinceAlucard it's acctually very easy to choose color for TLP if you are using VBA.
useing VBA?
please explain more
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on April 06, 2010, 07:28:20 PM
Ok, i will try to explain, my english is not that good, so, pardon me if i said something funny, here is the explanation: using VBA(the gba emulator) you can view the palette for juste sprite, there are 16 block of palette from left to right, all you have to do is change TLP color to match the palette from vba left to right. That's all.
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on April 06, 2010, 07:33:28 PM
Btw, have anyone here tried my hack? I know it's a wap site but i don't know where to upload it.
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on April 06, 2010, 07:40:29 PM
Btw, have anyone here tried my hack? I know it's a wap site but i don't know where to upload it.
i'm not sure wut your hack is since its in a php format ???
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on April 06, 2010, 09:48:58 PM
Reuploaded to:

http://www.filefactory.com/file/b25ge70/n/2CV_HoD.zip

it's in ips format, patch it to the US version.
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on April 06, 2010, 10:03:06 PM
Reuploaded to http://www.filefactory.com/file/b0h7713/n/CVHODhack_zip it's in ips format, patch it to the US version.
hmm i just played it and it seems you just took away Juste's blue Aura.
wut program did you use and how did you do it?
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on April 06, 2010, 10:49:45 PM
I just use TLP to recolor juste's blue aura to black, using his black palette.
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Eric Roman on April 07, 2010, 06:16:37 AM
This Al looks like Mario to Juste's Luigi.  Is that supposed to be a bat silhouette when he jumps around?  At first it made me think, "He does a handstand he jumps?!"
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on April 07, 2010, 10:53:27 AM
Please try my hack too, and give your comment.
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on April 07, 2010, 10:56:54 AM
This Al looks like Mario to Juste's Luigi.  Is that supposed to be a bat silhouette when he jumps around?  At first it made me think, "He does a handstand he jumps?!"
how exactly does a bat posibly look anything remotely similar to a handstand?.
that puzzles me how you could draw such a conclusion since its obviously a bat
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Eric Roman on April 07, 2010, 01:04:54 PM
I was just going by what the video quality presents.  Have you ever heard of the Rorschach Test?

All I'm saying is perhaps it wasn't so obvious.  Why would someone have to transform just to jump or drop?

...and I don't know if you're familiar with Portrait of Ruin, but Richter's mid-air gymnastics is one heck of a stupid-looking double jump.  That's what Juste's first hop looked to me; like a smudge was doing something crazy.

DarkPrinceAlucard knows what it's supposed to be because DarkPrinceAlucard knows what he meant to do.  Unless something is made to be absolutely clear, there is no way to tell how other eyes and minds will impress upon it. 
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on April 07, 2010, 01:12:08 PM
I was just going by what the video quality presents.  Have you ever heard of the Rorschach Test?

All I'm saying is perhaps it wasn't so obvious.  Why would someone have to transform just to jump or drop?

...and I don't know if you're familiar with Portrait of Ruin, but Richter's mid-air gymnastics is one heck of a stupid-looking double jump.  That's what Juste's first hop looked to me; like a smudge was doing something crazy.

DarkPrinceAlucard knows what it's supposed to be because DarkPrinceAlucard knows what he meant to do.  Unless something is made to be absolutely clear, there is no way to tell how other eyes and minds will impress upon it. 
but is a BAT i used a BAT sprite and everyone clearly saw it as a BAT because its to obvious to be anything else because i used a BAT image.
your the ONLY person that saw it as something else ;D
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Raphael Belmont on April 07, 2010, 01:56:34 PM
Please try my hack too, and give your comment.

looks pretty good dude...you took off that weird blue aura around Juste....i'll play more later to see what else is changed, but so far, nice work!
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Eric Roman on April 07, 2010, 04:19:27 PM
your the ONLY person that saw it as something else ;D

So far as I've seen, the only other folks to identify that thing as a bat did so with a bit of mockery...  (Referring to my favorite drawing game,) if you drew a random line on a piece of paper and handed it to me as a challenge, you'd be quite surprised at the picture you'd get back.

I might not have caught on as quickly as 'everyone' else, but give me a little credit, DP; the blotches in that video are the first time I'm seeing Al's SotN Bat Form reproportioned to Juste's dimensions.

::sigh::  Another day at the CVDF!  :D
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on April 07, 2010, 06:48:23 PM
So far as I've seen, the only other folks to identify that thing as a bat did so with a bit of mockery...  (Referring to my favorite drawing game,) if you drew a random line on a piece of paper and handed it to me as a challenge, you'd be quite surprised at the picture you'd get back.

I might not have caught on as quickly as 'everyone' else, but give me a little credit, DP; the blotches in that video are the first time I'm seeing Al's SotN Bat Form reproportioned to Juste's dimensions.

::sigh::  Another day at the CVDF!  :D
meh
its no big deal its just that it seems so obvious regardless of the video quality ;D
but wutever its nothing major nor i'm i offended or anything so lets just drop it ok ;)
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on April 07, 2010, 07:57:30 PM
looks pretty good dude...you took off that weird blue aura around Juste....i'll play more later to see what else is changed, but so far, nice work!
thanks for your comment, btw, is there any palette changed when you play it? Because if no, it could be that my hack didn't really work on your rom.
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: VGuyver on April 08, 2010, 10:10:36 AM
all you have is a couple of functioning sprites in place of several dozen missing sprites. Also not that great a hack so far because it with a lot of work it can be a great thing for fans. But this is a big let down for fans who were hoping for something else. Don't over hype the thing, otherwise fans will just mock it, as evident at youtube.
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on April 08, 2010, 10:34:08 AM
all you have is a couple of functioning sprites in place of several dozen missing sprites. Also not that great a hack so far because it with a lot of work it can be a great thing for fans. But this is a big let down for fans who were hoping for something else. Don't over hype the thing, otherwise fans will just mock it, as evident at youtube.
there really isn't that many CVHOD hacks out there that are "OUTSTANDING".
CV roms aren't easy to hack dude lighten up seriously.
and people aren't saying its bad or anything. infact i've received SEVERAL pms from people that actually like the mod and the only negative feedback we have gotten is from you and that Osaka guy ;)
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on April 08, 2010, 10:36:22 AM
also i'm positive you haven't even PLAYED it yet so why are you being so judgemental without even giving it a try?
atleast play the FULL and BETTER version and see how it is before saying things like that. as i've said many times me and CoolStark improved ALOT of things in the final release so please go and play it and THEN maybe i'll listen to your critisism ;)
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on April 08, 2010, 11:04:17 AM
I just played your hack DarkPrinceAlucard, and i noticed Alucard looks brown! I didn't watch the youtube video, is that the way Alucard is supposed to looks like? It could be my rom, but i just wondering...
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on April 08, 2010, 11:10:00 AM
I just played your hack DarkPrinceAlucard, and i noticed Alucard looks brown! I didn't watch the youtube video, is that the way Alucard is supposed to looks like? It could be my rom, but i just wondering...
it has to be your rom dude.
make sure you use a unedited and CLEAN US rom
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: VGuyver on April 08, 2010, 11:19:28 PM
I'm not insulting you in anyway, so please do calm down. But like I said, gave the impression that you can actually play as (or like) Alucard. So that left some people disappointed. Not that I don't appreciate the effort, but it's just not an enjoyable hack for me. Judging from other people's reactions on youtube, many consider the work laughable at best. Like I said, if the animations were actualy made more complete such as the dashing and jumping, then I might like it more.

 I cannot see your PM's, and it's odd that not many posted positive comments on youtube (but supposedly did in the PM's for god know's what reason), as well as the low rating, so I assumed many fans were bashing the work. So sorry if that is not the case, and that I was mislead in everything I read and saw people posting of their reactions there. Because frankly, a good number of them just mock it.
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on April 09, 2010, 01:11:28 AM
it has to be your rom dude.
make sure you use a unedited and CLEAN US rom
this is how your hack looks when i play it, i am pretty sure my rom is clean unmodified US rom.
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on April 09, 2010, 01:21:45 AM
I'm not insulting you in anyway, so please do calm down. But like I said, gave the impression that you can actually play as (or like) Alucard. So that left some people disappointed. Not that I don't appreciate the effort, but it's just not an enjoyable hack for me. Judging from other people's reactions on youtube, many consider the work laughable at best. Like I said, if the animations were actualy made more complete such as the dashing and jumping, then I might like it more.

 I cannot see your PM's, and it's odd that not many posted positive comments on youtube (but supposedly did in the PM's for god know's what reason), as well as the low rating, so I assumed many fans were bashing the work. So sorry if that is not the case, and that I was mislead in everything I read and saw people posting of their reactions there. Because frankly, a good number of them just mock it.
i'm perfectly calm and i know i can't expect everyone to like this mod so wutever.
but the only guys that i've seen give negative comments or you and the Osaka guy so i can' understand were your getting the "many" consider it laughable at best.
it seems your just trying to be a jerk so i'll just end the conversation and i'm sorry you don't like it.
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on April 09, 2010, 01:26:29 AM
this is how your hack looks when i play it, i am pretty sure my rom is clean unmodified US rom.
it doesn't look brown to me.
i used the color black and thats how its supposed to look ;)
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on April 09, 2010, 02:15:48 AM
it doesn't look brown to me.
i used the color black and thats how its supposed to look ;)
hmm... It seems you didn't change any palette, you know, i think alucard will look better like this:
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Eric Roman on April 09, 2010, 11:27:31 AM
Let's face it: DP is not receptive to constructive critique.  Would you pass this comment on to your partner?  I keep getting errors each time I try to submit it.

Quote from: DYNAKYRIS @ Youtube

Hey, CoolStark.

The best thing to do would be to wait for the Next-Gen Alucard game to actually come out with more pictures, then you'll get the best idea of how your hero should actually look.

As far as the video itself, it could do with a much nicer title card.  The choice of music doesn't really help much, either.  There's all this rockin' going on that isn't reflected in what I'm seeing.  Next time, try cutting some action-packed highlights in time to the music.

It might also help to unlock your forum and not spam about it so much.  I wouldn't want to bother with another registration just for something like this.

Thanks.

...I wonder if the CVIV Simon and Chibi-Richter hacks of HoD were ever finished...
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on April 09, 2010, 03:59:15 PM
but its NOT CoolStark's Forum its mine ;)
i say haveing to join the forum hardly is hard so how is it to much to ask to just take 1 minute and join and download and leave?
if you honestly don't think its worth it then fine you don't have to play it.
sorry you honestly dislike this mod so much :-\
and i'm fine with "constuctive" criticism were your actually trying to be nice and in a nice way make usefull suggestions but criticism were your generaly TRYING to be mean i'm not because its just rude.
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Raphael Belmont on April 09, 2010, 05:27:33 PM
mine too... ;)
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on April 09, 2010, 05:38:35 PM
mine too... ;)
wuts yours lol? :)
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on April 28, 2010, 02:58:28 AM
Hello! I have updated my CVHoD hack, I have removed Juste and Maxim's black outlines and changed the castle B Sky Walkway colors.

EDIT: fixed a few palettes and changed the CV1 Simon into CV2 Simon.

Download link:
http://www.mediafire.com/?6qonnz2o51lcebi (http://www.mediafire.com/?6qonnz2o51lcebi)
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Inccubus on April 28, 2010, 12:30:56 PM
It's about time someone did that.
Those outlines were really fu-gly
Thanks for doing it.
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: X on May 01, 2010, 12:23:41 PM
This Alucard hack looks interesting but my only complaint is that the sprite still looks like Juste and he still moves in that cumbersome way. If I were you DarkPrinceAlucard, I'd redo the entire Juste spritesheet so as to smoothen out all the well-known rough stuff and see how it goes from there. When it comes to doing hacks you should go all out of your way to impress even if knowbody feels impressed. Besides, it'll show IGA's team how a character sprite should be done.

-X
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: X on May 02, 2010, 12:28:09 PM
I really enjoyed that harmony hack you made Pemburu Vampir. In fact it's way mor professional then what IGA's team had done. Iwas actually engaged in playing the game rather then feeling bored of it. If you wanted to, do you think you could fix up Juste's sprite so that he's not so choppy as we courrently see him? I do find his movements way too stiff in animation and it would work very well to 'soften' him up somewhat. But this is a good hack! My hat's off to you for reading my thoughts on this game without me telling you!  :D

-X
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Pemburu Vampir on May 03, 2010, 12:36:17 AM
I really enjoyed that harmony hack you made Pemburu Vampir. In fact it's way mor professional then what IGA's team had done. Iwas actually engaged in playing the game rather then feeling bored of it. If you wanted to, do you think you could fix up Juste's sprite so that he's not so choppy as we courrently see him? I do find his movements way too stiff in animation and it would work very well to 'soften' him up somewhat. But this is a good hack! My hat's off to you for reading my thoughts on this game without me telling you!  :D

-X
Thanks for your comment! I'm glad you like it. As for Juste's sprite, i'm afraid i can't do anything about it since i don't have any skills in making sprite.
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Inccubus on May 03, 2010, 09:52:46 AM
Asking for more fluid animation is easier said than done. It's a much harder thing to improve animation or +/- frames unless you have an intimate knowledge of the language the game is compiled into.

That said, I do have a suggestion, Pemburu. Have you considered trying to use the DoS Alucard sprite in HoD?
The games are set up similarly and that sprite might just fit into Juste's with minimal editing needed.
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: DarkPrinceAlucard on May 03, 2010, 11:30:43 AM
Asking for more fluid animation is easier said than done. It's a much harder thing to improve animation or +/- frames unless you have an intimate knowledge of the language the game is compiled into.

That said, I do have a suggestion, Pemburu. Have you considered trying to use the DoS Alucard sprite in HoD?
The games are set up similarly and that sprite might just fit into Juste's with minimal editing needed.
no sadly those sprites are to big trust me i tried ALL versions of Alucards sprites and none of them were the right size.
the Dawn of Sorrow sprite is the same sprite used in symphony and thus its going to be the same size and to big
if you don't beleive me then your more then welcome to try but you've been warned ;D
Title: Re: CVHOD Next Gen Alucard Hack
Post by: Inccubus on May 03, 2010, 08:27:16 PM
If you can provide a sheet with the exact dimensions used in HoD, I can try to adapt the Alucard sprite and redraw any parts that are necessary. Care to collaborate? ^_^