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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: DingusBelmondo on July 01, 2010, 10:03:33 PM
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This is going to sound really sales-pitchy, but bare with me here. Fans will never be satisfied because the games the fell in love with cannot just be cloned forever. But when a game comes out like Lords of Shadow or Harmony of Despair, or any main title Castlevania, should we, for the sake of the series, buy the game. Without a doubt, IGA has created some great Castlevania history, and for some, the reason they love the series. Clearly, HoD is two things, a man's desperate attempt to show he can still make marketable games, and a response to fan demands. And Lords of Shadow? Konami's restored faith in the series, an all out attempt to make Castlevania big. So what happens if no one buys the games?
Iga is out of a job, failing to show his ideas are worth a damn to anybody. And Lords of Shadow? Konami sees that, despite all it's effort, no body gives an shit about Castlevania, and the series falls into obscurity. And If we buy? Bigger budgets, bigger teams, better creative minds. More games. If we don't buy castlevania, we will never have that perfect game. If we do buy, there is always that chance.
What do you guys think? Am I on to something, or not?
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Only buy games if you feel like you will enjoy them. Don't just buy it for the sake of the series.
If all us fans were to blindly buy any piece of junk with the name "Castlevania" on it; Konami would just continue to pump out crappy products cause they know they wouldn't need a solid game to sell more copies.
I developed this opinion after playing a game called
Castlevania Judgment.
Never again will I make the mistake of buying something just because it says Castlevania.
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I bought Dracula X Chronicles before having a PSP. Am I one hell of a fan or not? but when i got my psp, it broke after one year so i was sad and cried
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Ahah I did that exact same thing!!! Bros 4 Life.
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I bought Dawn of Sorrow before having a DS and bought a PSP just to get DXC. I buy any Castlevania game, because I absolutely love the series. I like to collect anything from the series, soundtracks, action figures, books, anything, I even made a custom Richter Belmont figure and am almost done with another CV figure, all because of how much I love these games.
I think as fans, we should support the series and show that it's appreciated and will continue to be. I'm not saying everyone whose a fan should get every game or every piece of merchandise just because it's Castlevania, if you don't want to, than don't, but thats the kind of fan I am and there isn't one CV game that I down right don't like.
I developed this opinion after playing a game called
Castlevania Judgment.
Never again will I make the mistake of buying something just because it says Castlevania.
And as for that, I think that game is great. I think it's a lot of fun, I enjoy it and it has great music. While I don't care for some of the art, I don't think thats enough to lessen my enjoyment for the games.
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I did that exact same thing too. Before I got my system I already had DoS. Jeez what are we all here... in terms of buying, I will, no doubt pick up LoS cause I wish to try it out. And since it's not made by IGA it could be refreshing to play. I never bothered to buy Judgement, let alone play it and I don't even feel the need to. Ah well...definitly not my loss there.
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Nope, you arne't on to anything. A fans obligation is to buy what they think is good and well deserved. If you buy everything, you aren't being a fan, you're being a "fanboy" who makes excuses for every bad thing, buy every little pos that gets puts out and then.... well doing the former with it.
Despite Iga games having pretty much the same gameplay, it game does change. And the changes are good to a point. It just depends on if you think its good or bad for yourself.
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I do not think we should just buy anything Castlevania. It sends the message we will buy any shit they decide to roll out. I usually do, just based on the fact that, and I fully admit, I am a Castlevania fanboy of a fairly high degree. I purchased Judgment. I have purchased every game new in the series SotN and beyond (except Legends and N64's). I own 2 and 4 prior to that. I have played every single game in the series however. I do currently own the 64 titles for 'completeness' and the fact they were used for 5$ each at Gamestop, which is about what they really are worth anyway.
That said, I will go on the record that I will NOT buy Harmony of Despair. Judgment was one thing but this is too much a piece of shit for me to even touch.
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Maybe this wasn't as apparent as i meant it to be, but I meant the main game in the series, not necessarily every product. For example, if everyone had bought judgment im sure Judgment 2 would be on its way, and thats no good. But we all knew judgment wasn't the "next step". If the new zelda game was a gritty first person shooter in modern times, it would think it would be up to the fans to protest. But unless we Castlevania fans have been fucked with repeatedly, don't we have to trust developers a little bit? I mean think about it, the amount of good CV games FAR outnumber the bad.
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That said, I will go on the record that I will NOT buy Harmony of Despair. Judgment was one thing but this is too much a piece of shit for me to even touch.
Oddly enough, I think Harmony is better than Judgment.
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If you are going to play the game - then buy it, don′t just download it illegally. I will buy games only for hardware that I own. That means, I will buy any Castlevania for DS and PSP if they come out, but for hardware that I don′t have (home consoles) I won′t. If a really good Castlevania comes out one day on a home console, I will want to buy it and will try to save money to buy them both. But I doubt that, since I only enjoy 2D Castlevanias. I want them to remain on portables.
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Obligation... what.
If the game looks good, I'll buy it. I love the Castlevania series as a whole so that applies to most of the games, barring the likes of the PS2 titles and any GB Castlevania that isn't Belmont's Revenge. The clear stinkers though (namely Judgment and probably Harmony of Despair), I won't bother picking up at all because they look awful.
I will probably buy Lords of Shadow though, not because of some weird purist "obligation", but because it looks awesome.
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I'd like to say I wouldn't buy whatever steaming pile of crud Konami rolls out for us, and it was what I was thinking when I heard about Harmony of Despair, but then I saw the demo and just went "I will most likely buy this."
There's just something about Castlevania games that make me want to buy them.
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There's just something about Castlevania games that make me want to buy them.
Man with whip fighting monsters.
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Man with whip fighting monsters.
Yeah, something like that...........
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Unfortunately,
My hard on for Castlevania knows no limit. Consequently, I generally buy anything that has Castlevania on it. I haven't bought Judgement, yet, but I still plan on it.
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Yeah, for me brand loyalty ended when I bought Curse of Darkness, and a while after sold it. I bummed the PS2 version off my bro recently for completion's sake, but I doubt I'll get Judgment or Harmony of Despair for a long, long time.
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Want a new good way for the saga? buy LoS and laugh about HoDe, showing to Konami that the Iga (moneymayker) time is now over and just hardcore fanboys could buy those mediocre games (Encore of the Night? oh plz - -)
Castlevania needs new blood and a new generation is open, im gona wait until special edition is ready for sale
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I can wait, I'm not obessed with the franchise, I love it, but not to the point of madness.
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I'm the same way. Last one I bought was either PoR or the PSP one. Still haven't bought OoE yet and I'm not going to get Judgement. I might get OoE sometime, but I'm getting burned out by the same rehashed level design. I want something new and fresh for my castlevania game (SCIV is still my all time favorite).
Sometimes you got to let these franchises die, then most likely, some company will pick it up about 5 years down the line and take a stab at it to make it good again.
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Yeah, for me brand loyalty ended when I bought Curse of Darkness, and a while after sold it. I bummed the PS2 version off my bro recently for completion's sake, but I doubt I'll get Judgment or Harmony of Despair for a long, long time.
Same for me. My brand loyalty ended with Curse of Darkness, after that I vowed to never again purchase a game just because it had the Castlevania logo on it. I've lost interest in the series in recent years, to the point that I have even skipped some DS games. I didn't buy Judgment or even rent it. I won't be buying Harmony of Despair because it looks terrible, a cheap recycled attempt to cash in on the success of New Super Mario Bros. I wont be buying the iphone puzzle game, or the Castlevania kart racer that Iga is probably working on next.
I will buy Lords of Shadow, because it looks interesting and because they finally appear to be putting some effort into a Castlevania game after years of just mailing it in.
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and bought a PSP just to get DXC.
I did the same thing.
However, despite having a Wii, I did not buy Judgement. Because it looked like crap, and it seems that was the general consensus. I might end up buying Harmony of Despair since its cheaper, but I still might skip it. I don't believe in buying games for the sake of having the entire collection.
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There ll never be such thing as a perfect castlevania game everybody has his own idea of perfection..
I ´ve bought every single castlevania game ...even bloodlines and Lords of Shadows will not be an exception its a need for the followers of the saga to play every title
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There ll never be such thing as a perfect castlevania game everybody has his own idea of perfection..
I ´ve bought every single castlevania game ...even bloodlines and Lords of Shadows will not be an exception its a need for the followers of the saga to play every title
excellent first post. Welcome
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Good to see LoS spark interest in fans who have been moving away from the series in recent years. IGA games have really run the well dry.
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3D metroidvania is gonna be boss.
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Want a new good way for the saga? buy LoS and laugh about HoDe, showing to Konami that the Iga (moneymayker) time is now over and just hardcore fanboys could buy those mediocre games (Encore of the Night? oh plz - -)
Castlevania needs new blood and a new generation is open, im gona wait until special edition is ready for sale
I agree 100 %.
Time for a new era for the saga.
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I see absolutely zero reason a fan should ever feel obligated to buy anything, unless you're talking about a fan of a fledgling artist or company just trying to get a foothold in the business.
We're not obligated to buy anything from Konami. They've got the funds, organization, talent, and experience to make a high-quality game if they really want to. It's up to us to decide whether we buy what they put up for sale. If a farmer is selling sweet corn that you've liked in the past, are you obligated to buy from him this season? What if the quality of his produce goes downhill? Should you still have to buy from him if his product isn't what you enjoyed in the first place?
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I've always made day-one purchases on everything Castlevania, without question, since COD (except for the iPhone game, because I don't have/want an iPhone). I've always wanted to support the series, and I don't want to miss out on any games, good or bad.
But in light of HoD, that might change. Sure there is fun to be had, but as a Castlevania fan, the game seems almost insulting. I don't want to support Konami if they're going to keep releasing Castlevania games like this.
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While I understand where TC is coming from, I disagree. I am a fairly new Castlevania fan, only started liking Castlevania within the last 3 or 4 years, but I am a huge fan, and I am trying to buy every awesome Castlevania game. BUT I am not going to just buy any piece of garbage simply because it has the Castlevania name. There aren't a lot of bad Castlevania games, thankfully. But I love the series, and I will buy a Castlevania game as long as it looks awesome (which isn't hard to do for this series). I took a chance on Judgement, because it could've gone either way but it turns out it's actually pretty cool, in my opinion. So with that said, Castlevania is an awesome video game series, if not one of the best. I will definitely be buying Lords of Shadow, as it looks amazing. If it didn't, I wouldn't buy it, plain and simple.
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I've lost interest in the series in recent years, to the point that I have even skipped some DS games. I won't be buying Harmony of Despair because it looks terrible, a cheap recycled attempt to cash in on the success of New Super Mario Bros. I wont be buying the iphone puzzle game, or the Castlevania kart racer that Iga is probably working on next.
What ? Me, finally having a friend on this Dungeon forum ? Incredible ! ;D
You explained the same thing as me in a different way, it's good sometimes !