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The Castlevania Dungeon Forums => General Castlevania Discussion => Topic started by: Pentagram-cracker on December 23, 2010, 01:03:26 AM
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Succubi are a common enemy that have appeared in Castlevania, but there are two who appeared as supporting characters who took the role of a seductive villainess and had their own cool artwork drawn by Ayami Kojima. Anyways the point of this poll is to discuss which succubus character you think was the best.
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Symphony of the Night Succubus: Appears in Alucard's nightmare where she takes the form of his dead mother who was burned as a witch, and tries to seduce him to the side of evil by changing his mother's final words to the condemnation of humans. When Alucard breaks free of her spell he fights and defeats her, then banishes her to the dream realm as punishment for defiling the memory of his mother.
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Lament of Innocence Succubus: Appears in the Ghostly Theater where she disguises as Leon's fiance Sara and attempts to murder him by stabbing him in the back. Leon doesn't fall for her trap and she reveals herself stating that she wanted him to die without suffering because she was attracted to him, but changed her mind because he would look even more handsome in pain. After Leon defeats her she reveals the truth about Rinaldo before disappearing into flower pedals.
My vote goes for the red-headed one in Symphony of the Night. She may have been a lot weaker then the blonde one from lament of Innocence, but there's something about her that I find more alluring. She was really cruel for taking the form of Alucard's dead mother to try and trick him, and Alucard was justified in his punishment for her. Plus it's more appropriet that she is fought in a dream, because according to mythology succubi attack men in their dreams. Plus you gotta love a girl who flashes her boobs to try and distract the main hero while fighting him. ;)
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I think the SotN Succubus is an all-around better concept. As you stated, she attacked Alucard in his dreams which is their nature to do so. She was good on the PSX, but when we got the PSP version, she became in my mind, even more seductive (and a little more dirty too). And her speech to Alucard while she was in desguise more closly matched the final words Alucard's true mother had said to him.
I wasn't all that impressed with the LoI Succubus as her voice-acting was way over the top and did not match the 3D movements of the character herself. At all. It was painful and somewhat embarrassing to watch and listen to her laugh like a psycho. If the voice-acting was done in a more toned down and seductive maner, then the blond Succubus would've been just as awesome, but it crapped out like cheese. So my vote goes to the alluring redheaded vixen diva.
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Even thought the PSP SotN succubus had better scripting, I perfered her voice on the PSX version of SotN. She had such an evil orgasmic voice that fit the whole sex demon concept. I especially liked her death cry when Alucard killed her. Though her script on the PSP was a lot better.
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Even thought the PSP SotN succubus had better scripting, I perfered her voice on the PSX version of SotN. She had such an evil orgasmic voice that fit the whole sex demon concept. I especially liked her death cry when Alucard killed her. Though her script on the PSP was a lot better.
Actually, in the PSX version, when you beat her, it sounds like she was having an orgasm where as in the PSP version, she actually screams in horror, which is how it should be when someone is dying.
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But the orgasm voice just sounds more succubus-like. ;D
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But the orgasm voice just sounds more succubus-like. ;D
I agree, but I'm just saying that at the end of the battle she should have screamed instead of moaning like she just had an orgasm.
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Can I pick both? ;D
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If a Succubus is going to die, then she should scream in horror. If she's gonna moan in extacy, then there should be a hidden button configuration that will show her banging Alucard in his dream. :-X
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If a Succubus is going to die, then she should scream in horror. If she's gonna moan in extacy, then there should be a hidden button configuration that will show her banging Alucard in his dream. :-X
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lol
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They're both annoying as fuck with terrible voice performances. The fight in SotN in particular was just pathetic, as were most of the boss battles in that game.
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They're both annoying as fuck with terrible voice performances. The fight in SotN in particular was just pathetic, as were most of the boss battles in that game.
Agreed. I'm a big fan of SotN, but when discussing the game, I can't for the life of me remember alot of the boss battles. Some were pretty forgettable.
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I'm kinda torn though,I liked and despised both of the characters. But at the same time, they both had some nifty plot elements. The PS1 one though was much more memorable, but the second one thoguh had the ptotnetial to be way better simply because of her own backstory connected to Rinaldo's tragic fate with his daughter.
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If a Succubus is going to die, then she should scream in horror. If she's gonna moan in extacy, then there should be a hidden button configuration that will show her banging Alucard in his dream. :-X
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Maybe she screamed in extacy because she enjoyed being killed? She dresses like somebody who'd be into S&M. ;)
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They both had some pretty narm-y scripts then had some pretty lackluster fights.
so i pick the loi one because she's hotter
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You really like malformed pointy ears?
I'll take the redhead. At least the fact that she wasn't drawn full-body can give me the benefit of the doubt as to her having ridiculously long Toenails (did you see the ones on the LoI one? I wouldn't want those scratching around).
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Well she wore long boots too, so even if she was drawn full-body you couldn't see her toes. :)
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The Lament one is so much hotter. She has less clothes but she doesn’t show any nipples so she's more of a tease I guess. If they're anything like the Symphony’s weird big puffy red nipples I'd probably don't want to see them anyways. Besides the Symphony one doesn’t even have ears. Oh, and the red head judging from that portrait must have a really pathetic wingspan.
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I guess I really don't mind nipple size. They can be small or nice big silver-dollar ones and I won't have a problem...
....THREAD DERAILED! >_<
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I like more LOI Succubus.
I think she strikes me as being more elegant and refined. Like some sort of demon-aristocrat.
I like combination of black clothes and white skin, her tattoos and hairstyle.
And I especially like her leg-thinks - looks interesting and kind of unusual.
Gameplaywise - SOTN Succy battle was boring and easy. But that's goes for all SOTN bosses. Though prebattle cutscene was interesting.
LOI Succy was one of the most boring bosses in the game. Considering that most bosses in the LOI were very far from boring that tells something. I didn't like her theme in this game, but her attacks were an eye candy. And I liked her attack when she kisses Leon while flying. "Delicious."
Voice acting was bad in both cases.
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I'll be greatuful if anyone will tell how to call her leg-thinks properly.
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It's unfair for the competition, bit I'll post her render form Pachislot.
Succubus LOI render. (http://images.wikia.com/castlevania/images/7/71/Pachislot-OfficialArt-07-succu.jpg)
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I think both succubi had kind of an "evil refined demoness" look, as refined as a woman can look while wearing nothing but a thong and corset. But the details Ayami Kojima placed on their outfits is what gives them that elegeant look. Like SotN succubus has the thorny roses wrapped around her hair and has the pretty choker and black laced arm thingies, and LoI succubus has the pretty leg thingies, the hairpin shaped like devil horns, and in her artwork she is shown holding a thorny flower.
I think both of them are sexy and beautiful, and while LoI succubus had cooler powers compared to SotN succubus, I still think the SotN one is cooler because what she did was more evil, and like I said the fact that she appears in Alucard's nightmare fits more with the succubi mythology.
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SOTN
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I guess SotN succubus wins, since she got the most votes. :)
Oh another cool fact about succubi and incubi I thought I'd bring up. Back in the day when the Church was rounding up all the poor men and women to be burned alive for witchcraft, they actually thought witches got their powers by sleeping with succubi and incubi. Alucard's mother was accused of witchcraft and burned alive, and a succubus disguises as her in Alucard's nightmare. I wonder if there's maybe a connection?