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Title: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: Pentagram-cracker on January 17, 2011, 02:39:00 AM
I was playing some Castlevania: Symphony of the Night on my PSP and came across some female enemies who appear as blue naked female ghosts who control ice and are known in the game as the "frozen shades". Well being the kind of nerd who has a fascination with mythology, I remember reading about a certain ghost in Japanese folklore who's appearance is very similar to the frozen shade. This spirit is known as a Yuki-onna which is Japanese for "snow woman". According to legend they either appear as a floating nude woman with inhuman white skin or wear a white kimono that causes them to blend in with their snowy environments. The nude part fits the appearance of the frozen shades, and they like to kill their victims by freezing them to death. Here is a wikipedia page about the Yuki-onna:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuki-onna (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuki-onna)

What do you guys think? Am I right in saying that frozen shades are really inspired by the Yuki-onna?
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: Nagumo on January 17, 2011, 06:06:07 AM
The Frozen Half enemies are supposed to be Yuki-onna. 
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: Dominus on January 17, 2011, 07:31:01 AM
The Frozen Half enemies are supposed to be Yuki-onna. 

I thought they were suposed to be tranformists
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on January 17, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
(http://resetglitch.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/muramasa_dub.jpg)
These?  (right and upper right)
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: Kale on January 17, 2011, 09:26:12 AM
Woah... woah woah woah.... frozen halfs are transvestites, I find it hard to believe that they are supposed to be yuki onnas.
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: crisis on January 17, 2011, 09:35:25 AM
Mannnn.. just looking at that screenshot makes me want to pick up Muramasa again. I stopped playing at that flame-mask boss (ninja girl's story)
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: Koutei on January 17, 2011, 09:54:02 AM
Frozen Half is Yuki Okama (Snow New-half). Yuki Onna's parody.
http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Frozen_Half (http://castlevania.wikia.com/wiki/Frozen_Half)


Frozen Shade?
I don't know.
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: Nagumo on January 17, 2011, 11:03:42 AM
Woah... woah woah woah.... frozen halfs are transvestites, I find it hard to believe that they are supposed to be yuki onnas.

Yuki-okama is a pun on Yuki-onna.         
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: X on January 17, 2011, 11:09:34 AM
Woah... woah woah woah.... frozen halfs are transvestites, I find it hard to believe that they are supposed to be yuki onnas.

Yeah I didn't find thid out until later too. but when you kill them, you hear a very deep cry of pain as thy die. so they're man-ish to an extent.

-X
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: Pentagram-cracker on January 17, 2011, 11:33:23 AM
That wouldn't be the first transvestite monster to appear in a game. Any Silent Hill 4 players remember these?

(http://images.wikia.com/silent/images/5/5d/Patients.jpg)

The tallest ladies with the manliest burping death cries I've ever seen.  :o

Anyways I think it's very possible that the Frozen Shades are at least loosely based on Yuki-onna. I mean how many naked ghost ladies who freeze their victims to death are there in the world's various mythologies?
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: Kale on January 18, 2011, 05:31:53 PM
but... didn't sotn come out first.... so they'd bed first in the 2?
Yuki-okama is a pun on Yuki-onna.         

like transvestites are puns on women? you lost me. =/
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: Munchy on January 18, 2011, 05:47:46 PM
That wouldn't be the first transvestite monster to appear in a game. Any Silent Hill 4 players remember these?

(http://images.wikia.com/silent/images/5/5d/Patients.jpg)

The tallest ladies with the manliest burping death cries I've ever seen.  :o

Anyways I think it's very possible that the Frozen Shades are at least loosely based on Yuki-onna. I mean how many naked ghost ladies who freeze their victims to death are there in the world's various mythologies?

Oh god. In spite of the hilarious belching noises, those things look fucking terrifying. I wanted to dress as one for Halloween but ne.ver got around to it
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: Alutwon on January 18, 2011, 08:15:22 PM
Woah... woah woah woah.... frozen halfs are transvestites, I find it hard to believe that they are supposed to be yuki onnas.

Yeah I didn't find thid out until later too. but when you kill them, you hear a very deep cry of pain as thy die. so they're man-ish to an extent.

-X

Mind=Blown
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: Nagumo on January 19, 2011, 01:12:40 AM
but... didn't sotn come out first.... so they'd bed first in the 2?
like transvestites are puns on women? you lost me. =/


I'm pretty sure it's just a joke. Nobody at Konami is that perverted.

<__<

>__>   
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: Jorge D. Fuentes on January 19, 2011, 10:03:06 AM
"MaAaximum Powaaaaah!"
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: Gunlord on January 19, 2011, 12:55:45 PM
I seriously have to wonder if that "Newhalf" thing was a mistranslation...I mean, seriously. Transvestite yuki-onnas? :p
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: Nagumo on January 20, 2011, 12:21:27 AM
Lol, that joke appeared before in Boku-Dracula Kun so they fully knew what they were doing.
Title: Re: Frozen Shade = Yuki-onna?
Post by: Dominus on January 20, 2011, 06:03:02 AM
I seriously have to wonder if that "Newhalf" thing was a mistranslation...I mean, seriously. Transvestite yuki-onnas? :p


didnt you hear them scream?